600cc Motorcycle for Beginner Riders

600cc Motorcycle for Beginner Riders - Can it be Done?

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@yammienoob 3 жыл бұрын

Don't get a 600 as your first bike. Learn the craft, respect your machine, enjoy the journey long term. Don't agree? Go to yammienoob.co and sign up to fight me on our Discord

@CurrentAgeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

First like

@CurrentAgeMedia 3 жыл бұрын

Should i get 400cc then

@Uly_24 3 жыл бұрын

I got a ducati supersport as my first bike. Only has a scratch and a cracked fearing.

@chiitaks 3 жыл бұрын

Got a CB600F "Hornet" and I love it :D But yea I learned and passed my test on Duke 690

@fillerschreiberfamily5213 3 жыл бұрын

Day 4 of asking for apollo 125 remake

@scottwright9522 3 жыл бұрын

Yam you should do a video where you train 3 beginners on different size bike and see which ones they prefer

@juicebox5499 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea he’ll owe you some royalties or a new bike 🏍

@canadianchungus701 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to be a test subject for a beginner

@wrenvizsla2432 3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@lilpenny2641 3 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@TheDaltonmichaels 3 жыл бұрын

well the one that gets stuck on the turbo bussa should probably have a Will made lol.

@mikespencer7241 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600cc bike. Didn’t have a problem. Just don’t ride betting your limits and you’ll be fine. Don’t ride with guys that will force you to do things you’re not ready for. Respect the bike and you’ll be just fine.

@Hi.my.name.is.___ 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah age doesn't matter when it comes to CC's it comes to skills and respect. You can always start on a 600 but if you have no experience and no idea of what the bike can actually do. Starting on a smaller displacement bike for at a year is always advised. Unless your country requires you to start smaller and build your way up. In that situation you just have to follow those guidelines.

@thesaucyslurp 3 жыл бұрын

@Motasem 16

@lllllllllllillllllll 3 жыл бұрын

@@thesaucyslurp Lmao, was about to say that. So long as if you aren't european.

@ridewithkay 3 жыл бұрын

@Motasem anywhere else other than Europe u can ride it once u hit 16+ just depends on ur license, like for example in Malaysia you are able to get a B2 license (500cc) it's just a matter of how long it takes u to pass each license most average B license applicants in malaysia are 17-18 so... technically u can ride a 600 at 16 but most people don't 😂

@lllllllllllillllllll 3 жыл бұрын

@Motasem Yes as soon as you are able to get your endorsement (16) you can get on any cc, 600 or 1000. Same in Canada with some restrictions.

@aarondrossart6026 3 жыл бұрын

Next question: what about a 598cc bike?

@MyJrankin 3 жыл бұрын

I think you should be good bro

@canadianoutdoors498 3 жыл бұрын

598cc is totally fine but 599cc is way too much for a beginner IMO.

@djups0686 3 жыл бұрын

So, 600 is out. What about 636?

@Sss12698 3 жыл бұрын

Aaron Drossart I am here before this gets thousands of likes

@TheMetoG 3 жыл бұрын

depends, is it 598 or 598.5, you can never be too safe with this things

@aoudjit78 3 жыл бұрын

I started on an 05 R6. I put 42K miles on it in 2 years and I never went down. I think it's more about your mentality than it is about it being a 600cc. I think most people won't have the same disipline as I did when I first started, but after the 1.5 years, I was passing my friends with 1000cc bikes in the corners, I was scraping my feet, I was learning about good throttle control and body position and most importantly, I respected the machine. I learned it's limits. If you I could do it, so can you.

@Christianmendez-ig8xg 3 жыл бұрын

Good to know ride safe

@mohanbhartiya2705 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think you are supposed to scrape your feets though I think it's supposed to be knee Until and unless off course literally scraped your feets before going faster than them

@AP-wu1rv 2 жыл бұрын

It's also about vision gotta have good vision😂

@banditbiker929 2 жыл бұрын

Bad advice 🙄

@KevinReillySV 2 жыл бұрын

I’m not new to motorcycles I’ve ridden motocross my whole life, and I’ve been on cruisers riding for a few months now. And I’m definitely comfortable just riding as I have been on a bike for years now but I’m still less than a year in to strictly street riding but it’s more less the same. I was looking at a cbr600rr for my first personal bike. But considering I’ve ridden for years I didn’t think I was as much of a beginner as others who’ve never been on a bike before but I’m still tryna find out how it is

@ricardovr4685 3 жыл бұрын

R6's and R1's were made for two things: 1 - Win races; 2 - Make people encounter Jesus before time.

@zenny7048 3 жыл бұрын

Anybody still getting a 600 after watching? Or is it just me

@jakelozoya2479 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought my first bike 3 days ago and it's a kawa z650

@blakehamilton7421 3 жыл бұрын

I prob am

@griffintaylor3861 3 жыл бұрын

@@jakelozoya2479 that's not the type of 600 he's referring to here.

@TheHiszpanTV 3 жыл бұрын

I'm getting a 636 05'

@jonahlevi3178 3 жыл бұрын

i am lmao

@Bes1997_ 3 жыл бұрын

Before asking questions, yammie is referring to 600cc fully faired sport bikes and he stressed the type of bike multiple times during the video. Of course a 600cc dual sport, enduro, adv, naked or cruiser is a totally different story and every type of bike can be not ideal as a first bike for several reasons other than the power (the seat height or the weight for example.)

@frogger2011ify 3 жыл бұрын

I think the most important distinction is the engine type. Any inline 4 or 3 is going to be a very very steep learning curve. The largest problem a person is going to have with most big twins for example nos the bikes are huge and heavy, like you said any bike can be a bad beginner bikes for a person. It depends alot on the situation.

@watermalone5782 3 жыл бұрын

@@frogger2011ify for 3 cyls, they are not common, used in the mv f3 675 and 800, mt09, daytona 675. There are some others but those are the most known. The mt is the most terrifying and the 3 cylinders are more exclusive and a 2 or 4. The 4s are used in lots of bikes and have low bottom torque, which makes slow riding hard. That makes the rider go speed and that could get them killed. Most 2 cylinders are the best for the starters. No one starting on motorcycles are gonna buy big twins. Everything depends on the rider and how they learn.

@chadst.p3681 3 жыл бұрын

I feel the weight is the biggest thing to consider on first bike cause the bike is going over and down it's just a matter of how many times and if you will be able lift it back up by yourself

@watermalone5782 3 жыл бұрын

@@chadst.p3681 you dont really have to think about that if you picked a bike you can learn on. Being careful on a 300 will be much safer than being careful on a 600.

@Bes1997_ 3 жыл бұрын

Bernard Marchand that’s true but you could also say that a 2 cyl, having torque in way lower rpms than a 4 cyl, can make your bike lose control even in 2nd/3rd gear while accelerating in the middle of the corner (a beginner doesn’t have a lot of throttle control). On the other hand, a 4 cyl runs relatively smooth under 7-8k rpms, giving you some sort of power switch. You gotta have the “head” to use it properly of course. And you have to find a bike with way less than 120 hp. A 600 Hornet or a CB650R could be ideal.

@Shockwave_jon 3 жыл бұрын

I had a 300 cbr. Had it for 2 months and crashed it by being too confident. It was like a toy super light. I got a gixxer 600 had it for a week and I definitely respect it way more than the 300. So it’s helping me stay safer ride safer and not be too confident.

@stephanesimard1692 3 жыл бұрын

There's a good reason Super Sports (600 and 1000) are so expensive to insure. Insurance companies crush numbers and those numbers tell them SS's crush their riders. And as an old timer I now realise low end power that gets you ahead of traffic is a lot more fun on the streets then top end power that gets you in jail or the hospital.

@martinarbe1 3 жыл бұрын

And with low end power, which bikes are you referring to? 2 stroke?

@stephanesimard1692 3 жыл бұрын

@@martinarbe1 Hi Martin. I wish two stroke power was still legal in Canada, pulling away with a smoke screen... But really any bike that's not tuned for the track and is dead under 7000-8000 RPM. For example my Suzuki GSXF (sport-touring) 600 is more fun on the street then my GSXR (super sport). But my best for the city is my Harley Dyna with 110 lbs of torque at 3000 RPM

@Kabubi_Habibo 3 жыл бұрын

600 is the starter in my opinion. You’ll be comfortable with it for awhile and the learners curve isn’t anything crazy to get over. The position is back breaking though without a doubt. R6 seats are bricks too

@tominator369 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 35 kw mt07, and I swapped rides with a friend his r6 for a little bit. I shat a brick or 2 when it went in the revs

@minuscarnival8611 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha that’s awesome. Can’t wait till you twist a 1000cc SS

@Play4FunTree 3 жыл бұрын

I just got my mt07 35kw 1 month ago... Just started motorcycling.... Its really enough power for the beginning... Sometimes i wish for more power but the most time you just twist the throttle and you allready got your 120kph..

@tominator369 3 жыл бұрын

@@Play4FunTree it definitely is quick enough from start. but it dies out higher up in the revs. I got it chiptune a couple of months ago to 85 hp. that makes it a rocket compared to the 35 kw version. but it was very good starting on it that way.

@Lagerlof 3 жыл бұрын

I got a 55 kW MT-07 as a starter. Only been driving it for a week but I really like it. Enough power to really feel it, but not crazy "you'll die in an instant" power. Also, being 30 and having 11 years of practice in traffic, it makes alot of difference compared to someone in their early 20s starting on a bike.

@justinmasknj4785 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600 just fine it’s just like everyone else is saying you have to respect it and take your time which I did I was very nervous and intimidated at first so I spent like my first week just riding it to the neighborhood right across the street from my house and just rode though it over and over again and even when I finally got on the real road they were short and controled rides until I was confident you just have to get used to what to expect when you pull the throttle and brake and lean into turns under different situations and that just takes time

@primozdornik8069 3 жыл бұрын

In late 90's my parent's friend bought a big displacement suzuki for his first bike when he was 28 years old. Everybody in that group of friends was telling him that he should have bought a smaller bike, since he was a beginner. After 3 days he had an accident at a very slow speed. A woman in a car hit him. He had internal bleeding and died at the hospital. Even if it wasn't his fault, he still suffered. The moral of this story is that no matter what, you are still in traffic where anything can happen. I personally recommend getting on a motorcycle as early as possible. I am going to be 16 this November and I myself am currently in the middle of completing A1 motorcycle license. At home I have a 50cc Tomos Apn 4 (moped) which I am going to drive as my first motorcycle. But anyways ride safe!

@xntumrfo9ivrnwf 3 жыл бұрын

My empathies :( I see you're in Europe given the A1 you mentioned - good luck with your exams! I think European beginner riders are generally >> beginner US riders, purely because of the extensive training we need to go through to even consider getting on your own bike.

@primozdornik8069 3 жыл бұрын

@@gorillamoto5329 I think there wasn't much damage done to the bike.

@primozdornik8069 3 жыл бұрын

@@xntumrfo9ivrnwf yes, I would say the same. Here in Europe, the laws are more strict when in comes to having a drivers livense and also modding your own vehicle.

@ChaoticMartian 3 жыл бұрын

Replace it as fast as you can man, a mobed is ok to move from a to b but you will not learn any bike skills from it

@Hobinator17 3 жыл бұрын

@@gorillamoto5329 Wow. You lost your cousin bc a wild neighborhood Karen couldn't contain her lifetime's worth of agitation. I would have sued that lady for all she's worth

@KJcinemas 3 жыл бұрын

Alot of motorcycle channels cant seem to make up their minds. Telling us one thing and telling us something else later.

@i0nk361 3 жыл бұрын

It takes a lot of self controll on a 600cc as a starter and most first time riders have a lot of fun and not any exspirense and feel for a bike let alone one with that much power

@HageanFQ 3 жыл бұрын

How human, isn’t it? People making decisions based on whims and experiences.

@HobbiesWithMike 3 жыл бұрын

idk. Yam is pretty consistent about his views.

@Otterplus 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh it’s all opinion and the viewer can either agree or dismiss what’s presented. Same goes with any other form of media giving out information it’s up to the viewer to decide what to do with that info.

@i0nk361 3 жыл бұрын

@@Otterplus very true, I'm just saying it dosnt matter if you start on a 600cc or 300 a bike is a bike its up to the rider if he wants to open full throttle knowing that he can't handle it and that's where the confution is with youtubers they can't say for sure if its safe to start on a 600 as I said a bike is a bike they don't know the rider

@najaebuchanan8596 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a gxr 600 6 months ago and I’ve never rode a dirt bike in my life just bicycles ... just know your limits and take your time and watch a bunch of videos on KZfaq it helps !

@wanderlustofvk7029 Жыл бұрын

How is it going ? I’m into buying 600 gsxr too or if that’s not available than 750

@najaebuchanan8596 Жыл бұрын

@@wanderlustofvk7029 going great still been over a year no close calls or accidents!

@jaygolds46 3 жыл бұрын

Finally had the chance to ride with a fellow new rider. My bike is an MT07, his, GSXR750, it was incredible to see the speed difference, blistering, but his lack of fundamentals, learning proper counter-steering had me melting him through the turns - glad I went the sensible route because when it’s time for an upgrade, my skills will be ready for the power.

@TheJPHarvey 3 жыл бұрын

oh teach me youtube god. Tell me more about how incredibley awesome you are

@jaygolds46 3 жыл бұрын

Jake Harvey absolutely, just cash app me $2,999 for a 45 minute session👍🏾

@aaronmalonee 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 96 Suzuki Bandit 600. I loved it and I think I learned a lot from it.

@ac.4ce442 3 жыл бұрын

I wanted to start on a 600 and then i got on a friends zx6r. Bought an r3

@joyywangg 3 жыл бұрын

What happened? Did you not like the zx6r? I’m a noob who wants a zx6r as my first bike so I’m curious

@ac.4ce442 3 жыл бұрын

@@joyywangg I was a noob at the time and the bike quite intimidating. Idk now. Found a good deal for a 2015 r3 and got that instead. Gonna put some km on it then im gonna sell it and check the new zx6r again. My advice would be to do a test drive before making any hasty purchases :)

@typer600rr 3 жыл бұрын

@@joyywangg you can go with a 636. Just remember to learn the clutch and how to turn on a parking lot before you hit the road. Spend at least 1-2 weeks over there and you will be fine. That’s what I did with my Cbr600rr. If you can’t control the clutch don’t ride on the road yet because if you stall on red light you will panic and if you panic you going to be in trouble.

@annmarie6233 3 жыл бұрын

The first to write o 8t4

@jacobmoore6874 3 жыл бұрын

@@joyywangg Kawasaki sport bikes particularly are know for having alot of raw power. The zx10r for example can go 90mph in first gear. So a Kawasaki zx6r is probably really torque heavy and just wants to rip.

@jimmytorello7041 3 жыл бұрын

I know I’ve said it here before, I had some experience on dirt bikes as a youth, I bought a 750 Gixxer when I was 20 and am surprised I made it through those years. I’m 41 now and have had a 390 Duke for a year and a half and can’t be happier with what it brings to the table. I’m learning proper trail braking and pulling little wheelies and IT’s A BLAST!!!!

@gabkalderon 3 жыл бұрын

My first bike is a 390 duke. I'm so I'm love with it! I feel it has enough power to learn and have fun as well without being to much

@DTB1q3 3 жыл бұрын

I agree entirely. My first/current bike is a VTR1000f and holy hell. I've never gotten into a sketchy situation and rarely get it past half throttle, and it still blows away any car I've ever driven lol. Trail braking, body positioning, and a small ego make any bike usable, but not appropriate. Honestly wish I'd gotten a much smaller bike, having to restrain the bike constantly isn't BAD, or unenjoyable, but I'd rather use the whole bike at realistic speeds

@phreak074 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 39 and got my first bike ever CBR600RR 1 week ago after finishing the Harley safety course. Before that I've only ever ridden a mountain bike as a teenager. I'm taking it slow learning smooth throttle and proper counter steering. I ride almost everyday and learn something new everytime. Just take it slow know your own limits (not the bike's) and never go beyond them and you'll be fine.

@chupa_mi_dongle 3 жыл бұрын

Yamm, you remind me of my father. He grew up on dirt bikes and ripped CA canyons for years. He went on to 2 CMRA championships his rookie year in his 30s on an ‘04 R1... would never let me near a bike. He recommends a DRZ to start and a 650 if you’re pushing your luck, and was less fond of my craigslist ZX6 finds!

@rarinmr.coolguy1493 3 жыл бұрын

My zx-6r is my first bike. Havent had any issues and have definitely learned how to ride with little difficulty. Dont regret it at all

@joyywangg 3 жыл бұрын

Does your bike have ABS? How’s the throttle control? I want to get one but people keep telling me otherwise. I’m a female and first time rider

@rarinmr.coolguy1493 3 жыл бұрын

@@joyywangg mine doesnt but i havent had need for it. Its good to have but learning to ride without it might be a good thing as well. I feel itll make you more careful. Im very happy with my bike mind you

@ryde9042 2 жыл бұрын

Easily the most helpful content for someone looking to move up from a CB300R. Thanks candied Yamz

@mpower6004 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the useful advice . Great video , down to earth ,informative .

@Ryansawsume 3 жыл бұрын

I rode a brand new R6 yesterday, and I was surprised at how relaxed it felt if the revs were kept lower with TC fully on. It screams and you'll be moving quick if you rev it up, but I feel like if you have good riding habits from some previous experience it's totally doable. With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if people get totally burnt out riding if it's the only bike they have because of its nature and riding position.

@MRHAPTIC-FEEDBACK 3 жыл бұрын

The position isn't to bad but I'm 5.6 so it's actually just right for me. Sit pretty close to the tank but I can imagine tall people have to lean over more to sit farther back.

@TheJPHarvey 3 жыл бұрын

@@MRHAPTIC-FEEDBACK 5ft 6 lol

@MRHAPTIC-FEEDBACK 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJPHarvey shit it is what it is 😎

@NiSE_Rafter 3 жыл бұрын

@@MRHAPTIC-FEEDBACK lol I'm the same height heck yeah shorty gang

@Reynad-sm1kr 3 жыл бұрын

My first street bike was a 2003 Suzuki sv650s. To this day, it is still my most favorite bike I've ever owned.

@callenhaines1369 3 жыл бұрын

I started on an 04 cbr600rr at the age of 17, I had been riding dirtbikes and learned how to respect bikes in general during those times, I've never crashed (I still wear full gear) or even received a ticket at that on my 600. Respect your bike, ride with your brain, not your heart, and keep it at the speed limit. If you're someone with strong self-control, you'll know the track is where to push your limits and get your speed fix, not the street.

@jj8383 3 жыл бұрын

Spot on informative video especially with it coming from someone who actually races quite frankly.

@popdatclutch3010 3 жыл бұрын

i started on a 600 after i took the class. kept it low in revs and i did just fine. ride your ride. i personally would've regretted getting anything lower. tbh.

@NiSE_Rafter 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. These kinds of videos have been leading me away from a 600cc but part of me feels like I'd quickly get bored on something smaller since I already ride mountain/road bikes and drive sports cars.

@popdatclutch3010 3 жыл бұрын

Jason N yea don’t do it lol you’ll catch on quick

@Hobinator17 3 жыл бұрын

With one year on the 390 duke under my belt, I really have no urge to upgrade. It's plenty fast enough for the street & interstate, and you can actually use every gear to its fullest. The lack of top end power definitely keeps me from being too much of a hooligan

@sullybiker6520 3 жыл бұрын

I think of all the close calls I had on a NInja 300 in my first year and I'm confident I would have hospitalised myself at least once if I was on a quicker bike. The lower speeds give you margin.

@TSnowy23 Жыл бұрын

@@sullybiker6520 hi Sully, the Honda cb500r is s tad slower than a Ninja 400. I think it's more on how it's engineered than cv size. Been looking for a Ninja 400, but since 2020 they've become harder to find & more expensive, and I'm talking used. So I've been looking at alternatives like the Honda cb500r or Ninja 650, Suzuki 650sv Gladius, or honda's 700n dct. It's become extremely difficult to find a decent used bike under 5 grand in 2022. Even smashed up bikes most want s min of 4 or 5 g's. I think the government might be trying to phase them out for electric's which cost 2x or 3x more, which makes sense what they're proposing with cars, the shutoff button law enforcement & criminals have. Sorry for getting a little off topic but you get where I'm coming from. Would like your input thnx

@sullybiker6520 Жыл бұрын

@@TSnowy23 All of your choices are really good bikes, I hope you can find one; the pandemic really f*cked the market.

@wanderlustofvk7029 Жыл бұрын

How is it to ride in 390 on highways like for touring to different states? Is it fine or should i consider a bigger bike

@kwemana90 3 жыл бұрын

My first bike was a 2005 Gsxr 600, I wouldn't say I was new to riding but it's been a long time since I've rode one. Absolute monster, respect the machine and practice alot. ATGATT!!!

@dgphi 3 жыл бұрын

I suspect that a lot of new riders base their decision for their first bike mostly on looks. They think that race bikes look cool, and that's about as deep as their thinking goes.

@GypsyDanger2000 2 жыл бұрын

I'm looking into motorcycles and I can assure you that you are a 100% correct

@benning7bass 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a Kawi ninja 650 and loved everything about it from the very beginning. Ya it’s got some power but I never felt overwhelmed or afraid of its capabilities. Can’t wait to upgrade my to a 4 cylinder liter bike someday!

@chasefazenbaker4840 2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever have any riding experience beforehand? Like dirt bikes or anything?

@benning7bass 2 жыл бұрын

@@chasefazenbaker4840 short answer: no. My older brother taught me how to ride on a little Honda 250 in our backyard but that was about it. Parking lot rides were the extent of my experience before the 650

@chasefazenbaker4840 2 жыл бұрын

@@benning7bass gotcha thanks for the reply. I ended up picking up my first bike on Saturday. Got a brand spanking new mt07!! I’m absolutely loving it and honestly could even go for more power, but I’ve been on dirt bikes my whole life so I was already acclimated to riding. Ride safe brotha 🤘🏽

@BangChief_AllIsOne 3 жыл бұрын

A Track Day sounds great. Adding that to the list. Salute Bradda

@hectorallanrivera9334 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff, be good to see a video that is like a grading system we as riders can use to determine if we have the skills to move up the scale, in due time of course, from, for example, R3>R6>R1. Appreciate all you do!

@vonklizzykloudz1303 3 жыл бұрын

I just got a '14 CBR650F for my first bike and had to ride it 50 miles home. Glad I didn't get a 300, however glad i didn't get a 600cc super sport!

@italianstallion918 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600 but I also knew about throttle control and practiced in my neighborhood first to get comfortable with it but it is very doable

@DiamondbackDW406 3 жыл бұрын

I do love my 600. But I also have grown into it, I love that you dumb it down for the new riders. I was introduced to a 600 after riding dirt bikes, and then a 1000 to scare me away from it and the 600 honestly scared me more. I wish I had a track near me instead of commuting on a 600 race replica

@HowlerBikeVlogs 3 жыл бұрын

personally i started on a cbr600f in 2012, i was scared of it, but i had the discipline to be gentle on the throttle And the brake, learned at my own tempo, not once got into a situation because i was riding over my skill-level. now i'm up to an R1 for the street and i know i'm not using half the top-end power of it, but the midrange torque, and the way it sits, i just like it, it's great for me.

@stewartnorton6386 3 жыл бұрын

I'd be very interested I seeing a breakdown of accident by bike types.

@USSMerrimack 3 жыл бұрын

As it turns out, it's largely >600 cc. The theory I heard was that motorcycle accidents are associated with Harley/cruiser riders. And I have no idea where I got that info anymore 😬

@klaweyrus7651 3 жыл бұрын

@@USSMerrimack on this same channel

@USSMerrimack 3 жыл бұрын

@@klaweyrus7651 shows you the sieve I have for a memory

@Iridescence 3 жыл бұрын

@@USSMerrimack The official source was the NHTSA's 2017 report. >1000cc was some 48% of all fatal accidents.

@anthonyr587 3 жыл бұрын

Harley Riders like 5%, Sport Bike Riders like 90%, the rest miscellaneous lol

@coreythomas5679 2 жыл бұрын

Started on a ninja 300, love dogging the shit out of it and throwing thru turns, i put about 7000 miles on it. Just got a 2015 r6 , and it makes me wonder how it can be street legal.1st impression was holy shit , i took off and hit well above 100 with ease ,was definitely a game changer, but after an hour on the bike i found myself adjusting to what the bike wanted , massive respect for the 600, could only imagine what a 1000cc would be like and don't feel like I need to find out at this moment lol. Definitely glad I put in the work on the 300 1st though, would not recommend a 600 as a 1st bike .

@kennethelton4635 3 жыл бұрын

Miss my rides around Westlake. Thanks for the loop around. Still believe in my GSXR-600

@dami66666 3 жыл бұрын

wow I´m really impressed by the safety issue you talk about!!

@ABCABC-sq5db 3 жыл бұрын

8:30 ABS is a $300 solution for beginner rider panic-braking. You can still learn controlled braking if the punishment for locking the wheels is ABS-pumping instead of going down. I locked the front wheel my third day of riding a 300cc at 45 mph and I felt the ABS kick in. 18000 miles later and I've never locked the front besides that one time. If it didn't have ABS and I went down from locking the front (which I know is my fault) I probably would never have rode again 🤷 I'm surprised you don't preach about ABS more often because imo it's a better safety/dollar value than a riding jacket.

@BlytheToMeetYou 3 жыл бұрын

This man is speaking straight facts. Abs is almost heaven sent for modern sports bikes. I learned to ride sports bikes on a 98 CBR 600 and boy do I wish I had abs. One of the first times I took it out I saw a family friend in his 2ss Camaro and I followed up but when he stopped (I didn’t understand front brake use at the time) I locked up the rear and almost slid into him. Abs would have definitely helped that situation.

@ABCABC-sq5db 3 жыл бұрын

@@BlytheToMeetYou Thanks! Do you think crashing into the Camero that early in your riding career would have affected if/how much you ride today?

@BlytheToMeetYou 3 жыл бұрын

ABC ABC no I grew how riding dirt bikes and at the time had been on an small enduro for about a year. It did however 100% make me go straight home and contact Puget Sound Safety for some proper riding classes before I let that 600 scare me any more.

@walkerfharris 3 жыл бұрын

Not having abs is statistically equivalent to not having a helmet on

@Gofr5 3 жыл бұрын

I have a bad habit of locking the rear more than the front. Have locked the front only twice, but both times were in sudden panic stops. The rear however, while I've been much better with it this year, my first two years of riding I was getting the ABS going off on that rear brake fairly often. lol While I was using both brakes, I think my issue was that I was just doing more with my rear brake than my front brake, hence always triggering the rear ABS. I eventually learned how much more I can push the front brake before the ABS goes off on it, so I almost never trigger the ABS these days anymore.

@Sss12698 3 жыл бұрын

My older brother (I’m not old enough to ride yet) got a brand new r3 and he thought he was going to upgrade but he only commutes and he really likes it He has been riding for 2 years I think give or take

@lllllllllllillllllll 3 жыл бұрын

For the price of a brand new R3 you could get a used R6 easily. Still would be fine for commutes, been commuting on one for years now including rain. It just can be way more fun to ride once you get the experience and confidence to go faster. Open stretches of highway and onramps are a good example for quick fun. Once you get better at taking corners, same with the twisties.

@Sss12698 3 жыл бұрын

IllIl l YaYa like I said I’m not old enough to ride I’m 13 so I don’t know the feeling of open throttle but ya at some point he will probably get a bigger one but 5-6000 for 2 years of riding sounds pretty juicy lol

@willsharp1773 Жыл бұрын

just got my 06 cbr600 rr 2 weeks ago and i love it its extremely comfortable and is one hell of a bike must always respect what these machines are capable of tho..

@uselessmitten7836 3 жыл бұрын

"The [Ninja] 650 might scare scare you a little, tbh" As a rider who started on a ninja 650 at age 24, I can confirm. It did scare me just a little at first, and I would only recommend it for someone who is dead-set on riding, and not someone who is just curious about motorcycles and want to try it out.

@agent47idk15 3 жыл бұрын

Im 20 I’ve always loved motorcycles when i was younger but now that im an adult and I have adult money im buying my first ever bike which is a Cbr650R I mean i dont think they’re that fast Its just about discipline and practice right?

@kraggiscourts9816 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600. I think it was a bad idea, I was nervous and made mistakes having never ridden even a scooter before that point. Coupled with the fact that I am a super short guy and can barely get both the balls of my feet on the ground while stationary this is not a strategy I would recommend to others. Two years later I feel much more comfortable but it could have been a quicker process

@1990themule 3 жыл бұрын

Never rode a bike before in my life. Bought a new CBR650R last year as my first bike. Loved it. Can’t imagine riding anything slower

@Ricardo_C 3 жыл бұрын

That's gonna be my next bike

@codythompson759 3 жыл бұрын

I just bought a FZ6R as my first bike I've been riding it a few days now and I think a person can start out with a 600cc as long as your careful it can be done fairly easy.

@MrKlein83 3 жыл бұрын

My second bike was a 2009 FZ6R, true the FZ6R is technically a 600cc but it's a de-tuned 600, not in the same class as the 600's Yammie is talking about.

@Sk0lzky 3 жыл бұрын

"Good breaks are bad" -Yammie, summer 2020

@Geshmaal 3 жыл бұрын

This doesn't really cover the 600cc type bikes that aren't 100% track focused sports bikes, for example the Fazer 600, CBR600F, Hornet 600, Bandit 600 etc. These things are more along the lines of the current CB(R)650Rs. Thoughts on this class of bike vs a regular 650?

@meguminthegreatestofthecri8301 3 жыл бұрын

Geshmaal yes I’d like to know as well. I’ve started out here on a 2007 Yamaha FZ6 (the Fazer) and I feel like it makes a very good beginner bike (for someone who has some self control). As long as you aren’t driving it aggressively it is very mild mannered, with plenty of down low torque and comfortable ergonomics. However if you do want to get up and move it is very capable and willing to do that as well, just get the rpms up to around 8000 and the engine turns into a screaming little monster and takes off. I’d love for Yammie to try one out and see what he thinks.

@taylorkruchten5962 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 2001 Bandit 600S and aside from it being 500 lbs, I loved it. If you respect the bike and don’t push yourself you’ll be fine. I’m now on a 2014 FZ6R and like what Ryan said, the bike would be a great beginner bike if you take it slow but also has the capability to be a rocket. I’ve done sprockets, exhaust, PCV, and even went as far as changing the timing and cams. The bike has about the same engine as an R6 so if you put the work in it’ll be just as powerful and now I race my friends drag bike with my 6R

@1990leesayles 3 жыл бұрын

Also kawi zzr600

@MyFlexinIsAProblem 3 жыл бұрын

Ryan Carrell I’m thinking about a FZ6 as my next bike. I love the sound they make. I currently have a MT03.

@meguminthegreatestofthecri8301 3 жыл бұрын

Joey if you get one you won’t regret it. It’s been an absolute blast and I’m enjoying the heck out of it! It’s still all stock but one day I’d like to get a slip on for it. Not too loud but just something a little more aggressive than stock. I do want to let you know the transmission is a little clunky, mostly between 1st and 2nd, but it’s not as bad as a lot of people online say. Also from 2007 and up they have a revised (and better looking, IMO) speedometer/tachometer assembly and improved fuel mapping.

@gabkalderon 3 жыл бұрын

Starting on a 390 duke. I love it! Enough power without being too crazy.

@FrostyPixelsOG 3 жыл бұрын

I was deciding between that and a Ninja 400, but then I saw my 650 V-Strom, looked at the specs, and just had to have it. Love it soooooo much. Hard to start with, cause it's a little heavy for a first bike. Also, pretty wide and long. The traction control, ABS, clutch, brakes, sound, and feel of it really made me fall in love with it. I put some guardrails and a top case on it. Looooove how flickable it is, considering the weight and length. I definitely get schooled by most other riders through twisties, but I'm not really in it for the speed. If I had more skill, I could definitely keep up though. Just not quite there yet.

@jessequick9160 2 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600 cc and had no problems. It got me hooked instantly. I hate driving my car now lol .

@shadowbroker1 3 жыл бұрын

Hmm I'm starting with an MT07 and keeping it disciplined

@erthwermmusic 3 жыл бұрын

How was starting on an MT07? I am looking at them right now as a first bike

@Throttle.Therapy. 3 жыл бұрын

CBR650R! Barley has 100hp, but still amazingly fun on the street! Perfect if you want a fully faired, sporty positioned bike! May be a tiny bit pricey for a bigginer though lol.... I own a CB650R and its amazing!

@user-jt6nw6wm5q 3 жыл бұрын

a friend of mine bought one as his first bike. it's a real beauty

@niklas1723 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I also got the CB650r as my first bike. So smooth and easy to ride, perfect first ride. I wanted to by the CBR650r though, but couldn't get insurance lol. Maybe gonna upgrade after my first year is full

@Ricardo_C 3 жыл бұрын

I want one , currently have a cbr 600rr

@Tiny_69 3 жыл бұрын

Did you go through a driving school or, Just would like to have some suggestion, wanted to own one CB650R Only have experience to scooter Nmax 155, 3 years

@alphaalvey5029 3 жыл бұрын

I started 2011 CBR600RR on march 20th this year, I’m so glad I didn’t start on anything smaller , the 600 feels right to me , laid it over once, but that’s because I hit that front brake

@adityatalikot1109 3 жыл бұрын

Good overall advice

@sage324 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 2017 Yamaha R6 and i love my choice in not starting on a 300. i think i have the intelligence to not kill myself and learn all that comes to riding a motorcycle. I never dumped the clutch or gave the bike to much throttle. I think it comes down to your level of intelligence the only reason he can say the things he said is because there are so many stupid people who get on a motorcycle that make it look bad for everyone else. Also the R6 is so precise it literally does exactly what i want it to do how could that hold me back as a new rider?

@momynator3000 3 жыл бұрын

Me over here watching as I’m starting with my 1989 cbr hurricane 600

@jacobmoore6874 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but yours might be a good idea cause its alot older. So it should be easier to handle power wise

@avinashr9649 3 жыл бұрын

I still race my F2. Man those Hurricanes were amazing.

@sujitgurung388 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah bro really appreciated your videos and your thinking.took my break in motorcycle 5 years ago due to accident only riden 150cc bikes and was thinking of 650 but I think I should start again with 300

@ErayzArt 3 жыл бұрын

As someone thats being riding for a few years. I come from a place where bikes are restricted (australia). I started my license on a ninja250r and then a vtr250 and later upgraded to a fz6r and derestricted it and did power modifications and honestly comparing it to my friends cbr600rr it wasnt much of a difference if any after all my mods... He really only gets me on the top end as i top out around 240kmh. So my advice is get a bike like a mt07 or fz6r and then when you get comfortable and used to it or even bored then you can mod it, or derestrict if thats an option instead of jumping on a 600-1000 and learning nothing instead of becoming an instant death trap. But again thats just my 2c. Enjoy riding and stay safe

@peri_2257 3 жыл бұрын

My first bike is a FZ6R and I love it. The ergonomics are incredible. It has enough power where I feel like I have it but it's not enough to do anything stupid up top. I think it's literally a perfect beginner bike. I had previous experience on dirt bikes so I wouldn't say I'm a total noobie but still.

@snowqueenny4879 3 жыл бұрын

Americans thinking of starting on a 600 mean while I got an A1 license feels bad xD

@claudiazarate4431 3 жыл бұрын

Im a 14 yo kid, just started working for a bike. I got a motorized bicycle which is only 80cc only 37 mph and i love it but I'm getting the bike bug and need more speed! Your channel is giving me great advice and ideas thx Mr Yammie

@christiansanchez1486 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with starting on a 600 it really teaches you to respect your machine because misuse leads to painful consequences

@misscandice718 3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s what you consider safe? As a beginner, I sat on both the 400 and a 650. My first thought was “if I dropped this bike, will it over power me?” And yes. Yes it would. I also think maybe “size matters”... of the person lol. I’m only 160.

@crackercasey4556 3 жыл бұрын

Try the ninja 300 or 250

@misscandice718 3 жыл бұрын

sailormoonhavyn saliormoon Delaney I have the 400. That bike made sense to me as a beginner.

@deeeeeezweld3792 3 жыл бұрын

It’s okay to start with a 600. You just need to be responsible and practice riding it and grow your confidence I know it is your opinion I’d have to disagree with that tho.

@restaurantsaroundtheworld8848 3 жыл бұрын

Do it to them, I started on a 1200 cc bike and five years later I’m still learning to ride it

@infinitreality 3 жыл бұрын

just bought an R3 for my son to learn on, and what i have found out about the bike is this, it don't need good brakes on the road if you are engine braking. If you are emergency braking, the brakes will do the job on the road, unless you are speeding, then all bets are off. Taking it on track, get some brenbo's

@pnwadventurist 3 жыл бұрын

No, let me save you time and money. Just get a 600. Anything less you'll outgrow it within a few months. Just respect the power and stay smart and you'll be fine.

@OutCastOP 3 жыл бұрын

Is it me or this is the 3rd time yami has changed his opinion about starter bikes?

@alrandall9931 Жыл бұрын

I started on a Honda CBR 1000 RR, and due to my maturity which I suggest for others, I have not had any issues whatsoever. In fact, I’ve never even dropped the bike. Also, will you do a video for those who want to start on a bigger bike and provide advice on how to achieve that? By the way, I love your channel!!!

@andregurule8068 3 жыл бұрын

As someone who did get a Ninja ZX-6R for their first bike, I totally agree with you. I have had the opportunity to do a 1-1/3 track days (I crashed the second day), but since most of my riding is around town, a naked bike would have been a better buy.

@unplug3342 3 жыл бұрын

How many of these videos are you going to make? It’s like the default video. Don’t know what to make a video about? “Starting on a 600cc?” I mean I’ll watch it lol

@hardyeleonore 3 жыл бұрын

Well said Yammie,but some people still wont get past their ego.

@donaldm4846 2 жыл бұрын

Great advice on this video. I think bike salesmen should give this info to new and young riders... Thanks for keeping the pop up memes out 😂

@brandonhorn3896 3 жыл бұрын

When I was 16 I got a kr 150cc kawasaki and dropped it and it was done, I recently bought a ER6N 650cc and I am so confident and comfortable with the new bike. Even though I rode on a bike 11 years ago.

@djstocks 3 жыл бұрын

I've been riding for years daily and I still love my CBR300r I don't get on the interstate because I don't need to but I could. And I get to twist its neck everywhere.

@dolanduk8419 3 жыл бұрын

They are cool and fast til your back and wrist begin hurting

@clayrainey5117 3 жыл бұрын

That’s fashion baby 🤩

@JohnB-mu9mh 3 жыл бұрын

It’s not as bad as people say

@warrensmith792 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnB-mu9mh that's because we still have a few years left hehe

@typer600rr 3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha so true, bought a cbr600rr Andy back and wrist hurt after riding for just 10 mins lol, but I’m getting used to it hahah

@THELANKANCOMRADE 3 жыл бұрын

Unless it’s a naked

@danielshover 3 жыл бұрын

I been riding for a year and got gsxr-600. I’ve had no issues learning through the msf and riding this bike carefully. An advantage is that I’m 36 and I don’t have the need for speed anymore. If I was 25 or less I wouldn’t recommend this. A quick twist and it’s unforgiving, you could end up in a ditch.

@12shirosaki 3 жыл бұрын

My driving school has a mt-07 to learn on :D Having alot of fun :P

@S.p.a.c.e.C.o.w.b.o.y 3 жыл бұрын

I'm 40yrs old this year and I'll be buying a Tiger 900 when I pass my test... :)

@user-jt6nw6wm5q 3 жыл бұрын

nice!

@aliasgerchuna7090 3 жыл бұрын

Best of luck sir!!!

@755hp 3 жыл бұрын

YES! It can be done!! I rented a 2016 ZX6 from Twisted Roads in Ohio! That was the 2nd Bike I road and had no issues riding!!

@PrikyPingu 3 жыл бұрын

That means that the zx6 wasn't the first one you ever rode. I'd say that the zx6 wouldn't be considered as a begginer bike. If you've transitioned from a lower power engine, that is.

@u1hpme 3 жыл бұрын

@@PrikyPingu i ride 3 years with 50cc suzuki pv. Its not a motorcycle so does it count? 2 weeks ago i bought yamaha fzs 2002 600cc as a "first" bike and iam loving it. 42 000km driven and its in awesome condition. Paid only 2200e

@flyinghigh2000 3 жыл бұрын

@@u1hpme if it's anything like the Xj6 then it's quite tame.

@Svm8250 3 жыл бұрын

That looks like some awesome roads

@donnawells2442 3 жыл бұрын

My first bike was a 90cc Bridgestone,Worked my way up to a 1450 Harley,Now going back down to a KLR-650. How life leads us along. RIDE SAFE!!!!!!!

@aggiespilot 3 жыл бұрын

As RCR said: “If you get a Yamaha R6 as your first bike you deserve whatever happens to you”

@jonathanesqueda3452 3 жыл бұрын

Bought an R6 at 15. 8 months later I’m 16 now and I’ve never been pulled over, dropped it, or crashed yet sooo yeah it’s doable but I did have 9 months of dirt bike experience

@AndreBrah 3 жыл бұрын

i just bought a 2019 mt-07 as my very first bike, also im just 19 so...🤔

@simonmorgan7445 3 жыл бұрын

Andrei S mt07 isn’t in the same league as a 600 super sport

@samrossfilm 3 жыл бұрын

Cool bro. Just one thing, wear your gear. FULL GEAR BRO

@faqarahkf7548 3 жыл бұрын

So... You're stupid

@byronlukken730 3 жыл бұрын

I just turned 18 7 days ago and im getting a 2017 mt-07 literally tomorrow lol but not my first bike

@AndreBrah 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh, ive ridden it twice now, the weight feels intimidating at first, but im getting used to it

@GamingWithHasty 3 жыл бұрын

I got a 750 as my first bike, I started riding at the age of 25, I always respected the machine and still do, and I haven't had any problems so far. But I do know that I had a few encounters that could have ended badly (due to other drivers) if I was riding like a manic and always speeding.

@MDI.PHOTOGRAPHY828 3 жыл бұрын

Sure. My very first bike was a Kawasaki Vulcan 1500 . Love it. I'm 6'4" and 310 & dont fit comfortably on small/short frames.

@lock.in_ 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t get how I just got the notification and so many people already watched the video 😂

@alucardcrimsonducker7945 3 жыл бұрын

how much lessons do you need to take in the usa in the Nederlands we need at leats 20 and learn one a 650 cc bike

@graviity1603 3 жыл бұрын

There is no requirement for a lesson in the usa. We have a written test and a riding test but it doesn't matter how you learned how to ride as long you pass both. Once you pass both you get your motorcycle license which covers all motorcycles. Most people take a one course called the MSF course which covers the riding test if you pass the course. After that you just have to go to the department of motor vehicles to take your written test and take a picture for your license.

@Lesdude 3 жыл бұрын

Avond Alucard, in the USA they only have to take a version of our 'AVB' exams + written exam to get their license. The lack of expertise that gets you is so weird compared to what we (almost the whole of Europe I believe) have to pass for our license. But yeah, we learn on 600cc-ish bikes. But going full throttle on your own bike is still going to be different then driving for your exams. Stay safe!

@Otterplus 3 жыл бұрын

Samuraii 1244 in Maryland the MSF covers both the riding and written tests. It’s a bit scary considering people with “parking lot certificates” can jump on 100+ horses as long as they have the funds.

@caseyjones6316 3 жыл бұрын

This many (zero)

@ikemitch2498 3 жыл бұрын

Started out with a brand new mt07 I’m fine and a new rider and comfortable with the bike.

@josuetrujillo5570 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been riding for about 5 months and my first bike is a 650 V-Strom. It’s not all about the cc in my opinion it’s all about what you decide on doing with it. You want to tour the country? Get something comfortable. You want to go off road? Get a dual sport. You want to play stupid games? Get a turbo-busa. You can definitely get a 600cc as a first bike though, it’s all about how you like to ride

@MyJrankin 3 жыл бұрын

Short answer do what ever the f you want

@TacticalxRecon 3 жыл бұрын

Everyone dies but not everyone lives!

@npphil 3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't disagree more. 600s are great even for beginners. Just keep in mind that a super sport bike might be really uncomfortable on the road, especially on longer rides. Of course they are not slow, mine tops out at 140 mph (allegedly). I never tried reaching that kind of speed and probably never will, I can not imagine ever being in that much of a hurry. ;-) Remember: an idiot will always find a way to kill himself on any motorcycle, starting on a low powered bike will not prevent that.

@wooferjr169 3 жыл бұрын

It's still better to fully get to know your bike when you can go through all your gears and fully twist the throttle. Although it can be done it's just much easier on the new rider to start small and work their way up.

@NiSE_Rafter 3 жыл бұрын

I got an 08 350z (last 2 years 07-08 had the most power) in manual with a broken traction control system when I was 16 or 17. The car is near, if not, the top of insurance company risk list for young males. Fast forwards to 21 and I'm still driving the car w/ a fixed race seat, harness, and other go fast focused parts as my only car with 0 tickets and 0 accidents. Not a 600 and not as fast, but basically the same idea in the car world. I've taken the car to 140 (top spd is 150) but only after driving it for 3+ years. I think people with real respect for "bad idea" vehicles should go ahead and get them if they want.

@firefoxrainbow 3 жыл бұрын

My first bike was a 2004 Kawasaki ZX-6R. Recently I got a 2019 Kawasaki 650. The 650 by far a hell of a lot more fun in traffic with its relaxed riding position. Did not miss the power of the 6R because that's not what I enjoyed about riding.

@weary6118 2 жыл бұрын

I have thought a lot between ninja 40,650 and zx6r dunno what to get