600cc Motorcycles for Beginners - Everything You Need to Know

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@joshswanedits 5 жыл бұрын

I've been on the fence for a long time. 1000cc it is.

@joshswanedits 5 жыл бұрын

@Anthony Smith Just being sarcastic. Im the guy who researches for too long. I will most likely get either the R3 or ninja 400 - if anything up from that it would be the z650 somewhere in that range.

@ThiefOfNavarre 4 жыл бұрын

I passed my test on an SV650. Nice forgiving, unintimidating beastie!

@cristiansanchez5044 4 жыл бұрын

Lol I was really excited on getting a 600 but after watching this. Is it really worth it? I’ll never actually go fast on the road so why waste all that money. 300 it is for me

@Headxoxote 4 жыл бұрын

Yoshi Fredrix So... Got the Ninja??

@Adeus555 4 жыл бұрын

Atta boy

@BookieCrook 5 жыл бұрын

Everybody should start on a Busa. Weed out the weak ones in the beginning.

@jcodym13 3 жыл бұрын

This is the way

@B0redom13 3 жыл бұрын

This is the way!

@DanDryfhout 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Just starting and this has solidified my decision.

@owenpetrie1247 3 жыл бұрын

Natural selection

@frag1574 2 жыл бұрын

The only way

@jarrettsollitto6192 3 жыл бұрын

I started on a 600 and it was super easy, I say the thing that’s gonna keep you from dying is self control

@goodafternoonworld4456 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, agreed im 3 days into riding my zx6r and im getting mote comfortable than I wanted to.

@Jjjhbyhjbgv 2 жыл бұрын

And awareness ... Nevere get to comfortable because you think your getting better ... Stay aware and stay proactive

@tristanhoffman7748 2 жыл бұрын

Do you ride that as a daily? If so, what has been your opinion on riding it that way?

@elijahh3323 2 жыл бұрын

@@tristanhoffman7748 I daily a 21 zx6r. Never had a problem with it at all, it’s all about what you prefer. I’ve been on rides 2 hours straight and still find it to be my dream bike.

@srslywhattf 2 жыл бұрын

@@goodafternoonworld4456 yoooooo im a week in with a zx6r and agreed. Ride safe bro

@647killa 3 жыл бұрын

Normally I wouldn’t recommend a 600CC Supersport to anyone, but it must be said, that not all 600 supersports are the same. I started my riding career on a 2015 CBR500R. Great bike, totally easy to ride and handle, and enough power to ride in any condition and not be bored. Literally 5 months after lots of real world practice, I decided to buy a 2009 CBR600RR, which folks had always warned me not to get. Lo and behold, I realized, that the CBR600RR in particular is a stupid easy and forgiving bike to ride. There is very little power below about 8K and it’s all so linear, so an accidental throttle application won’t kill you. At about ~410lbs curb weight, the bike is easy to manage and cheap / reliable enough to fix if you drop it. Basically, you CAN start off on a 600CC supersport if you are mature, have self-control and put in effort to hone your skills. I have the same opinion about older Yamaha R6s, which didn’t make ANY power until like 10K RPM, which means you could just stay out the powerband and easily and keep yourself alive. Again, it’s not a recommendation, but I wish people didn’t scare me so much online into buying a “starter bike,” when I could’ve just as easily learned on a CBR600RR. However, If you have no self-control over your ego and actions, don’t ride a sportbike period.

@talibal-faris4436 2 жыл бұрын

you're just another fellow BMW guy, we can tame anything🤓

@dominictannehill4708 2 жыл бұрын

Your comment is my thoughts. I was gonna buy my buddies Honda rebel 250cc for practice but i didn't want it at all, so i told him ill practice on his from time to time but im going to get a 600rr because everyone says they are so good but also dangerous but you are right if you know what you are doing and understand the bike youll be fine

@halvorson566 2 жыл бұрын

I started on a 2015 cbr500r for my first street bike also! Well...I'm still on it. I've had it abput 3 weeks now, put over 1k on, &am already bored with it. It's a great bike, don't get me wrong, got it with 2106 miles on it. But I've already out grown it. Maybe if I started with a decent 650 I would still be satisfied with it. But now I'm looking at 600s, along with 650s now. I've just started seriously looking, &talked to the place where I bought the cbr from&one guy says go for the ninja 636, the other says either the ninja 650, or the z650. So I'm going to try them out&see if the 650 seems like I can get at least another year from, or if the 600 will be better for me.

@dominictannehill4708 2 жыл бұрын

@@halvorson566 listen man 600 packs a fun amount of power unlike the 650s 600rr is a do it all bike my buddy has been bored of his rebel cruiser and wants a 600 badly I’ve gotten so used to my 600 and yet it still amazes me everyday I’m on it

@avrahamorsini178 Жыл бұрын

I hope the fact that I would only trust myself to start on an r6 or cbr600 and not even touch a zx6r or gsxr600 is maturity enough lol. I’ve been looking at those bikes for a while and think I’m gonna go for the r6 but I want to just rent some 400 for a couple of rides before I actually buy a 600

@Geoffthesuperinspector 5 жыл бұрын

I left you some love down below but unfortunately it’s alll over my keyboard

@pacopetepnw3434 5 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHHAHA! ..nice :))

@davidwendel6080 5 жыл бұрын

Careful that's hard love to clean out of the keys... frequent masterdebator info.

@team3gaming749 5 жыл бұрын

Geoffrey Stankus Lmao 😂

@Dylzhaar 5 жыл бұрын

Okay cool but I live in England so I have a 125. And then in a year I can only have a 300. And then two years after that I can pick however I want to die.

@GrowingDownUnder 5 жыл бұрын

125's are good fun, all bikes are good i'd even be happy riding 80 cc. I rode a yz 85 large wheel few years ago it was powerful and tall for an 80cc bike

@brianfarinha1720 5 жыл бұрын

You think thats bad. In Portugal we have a 50cc license at 14 yeras old, a 125cc license(with 11KW limit) at 16 years old, a 35kw license with no displacement limit at 18 years old and if we have either the 125cc or 35 KW license we are lucky enough to be able to take the full exam at the age of 21, if not we can only have the full license at the age of 24. I have a 125 cc license for almost 6 month, have already put more that 7K km on my bike(virago 125) and I can say that after driving the 535 version it feels that the 125 is too slow. In my opinion the 125 license should be replaced with the 35KW one. This sucks....

@joybuning2734 5 жыл бұрын

@@brianfarinha1720 HAHAHAHAH in the Netherlands its 50cc at 16!!! and 125cc at 18! after that 35KW at 21 and unlimited at 24 so....

@adamjames6320 5 жыл бұрын

I ride my KTM 125 exc around on L plates, it's got loads of power for a 125cx

@Mech.E 5 жыл бұрын

@@joybuning2734 Dankjewel, had zelf geen zin om dit typen 😂

@Ben-it3jd 5 жыл бұрын

1:39 600 make on average 40 hp and 600 make on average 115 hp

@benfuct5880 5 жыл бұрын

I went to the comments just for this, uhhh, comment... side note he’s over estimating those power figures by 10 hp, if not more

@benster358 5 жыл бұрын

@@benfuct5880 no he isn't 300-500cc motorcylces are around the 40HP mark to fit in European license restrictions

@hiddefrielink381 5 жыл бұрын

Wtf i didn't notice😂

@69eleanorgt500kr 5 жыл бұрын

caught that right after he said it and came.right to the comments, haven't even finished the video yet hahaha

@davidswrx 5 жыл бұрын

Likewise

@quddusleo 5 жыл бұрын

Dog : bark Cat : meow Idiots : first

@familyfriendly7030 5 жыл бұрын

How original

@nelsoncheng2674 5 жыл бұрын

Quddus Leo Haters.

@FUZ2706 5 жыл бұрын

you : this

@nelsoncheng2674 5 жыл бұрын

fuzz yeah, sometimes I just can’t seem to get my mind straight and say what I mean. This is a problem which I urgently need to work in.

@jaromor8808 5 жыл бұрын

u just jelly

@schnitzel8070 2 жыл бұрын

Picking the 600 is a commitment. If you go into it knowing you're sacrificing comfort, utility, and storage space while also having to contend with a quirky powerband, you'll have a good time. If you buy a 600 just because it looks and sounds cool while not having a passion for it's quirk, you'll probably hate it.

@KasaBlanca007 Жыл бұрын

Best comment here.

@DamaniJones Жыл бұрын

This is so important to consider.

@caramelzappa 5 жыл бұрын

I went the non-traditional route and got a 0cc bike as my first. I ride a Zero SR and it's been a pretty accommodating first bike with no clutch or gear shifting, but it really makes you respect throttle control because if you're too heavy on the throttle in a corner all that torque can easily break that rear wheel loose. Still though, it's a little tame. Should've started with a hayabusa.

@deadbeatninja8618 5 жыл бұрын

caramelzappa lmfao

@ca2269 5 жыл бұрын

So frikken jealous. How is the Zero going?

@TheFreshkidd619 4 жыл бұрын

Was looking at a Zero SR/F or Kawaski ninja zx6r for my first bike might get the kawaski used first then buy a sf/r for my second bike. thoughts Im an insanely good car but Im worried that I may not be a natural at bikes like I am with cars.. thoughts on what I should do?

@ca2269 4 жыл бұрын

@@TheFreshkidd619 I feel the same about riding vs car driving. I went with a cheap 125 to start with, learnt slow maneuvers and the basics and after 3 months felt ready to upgrade. Definitely worth it.

@TheFreshkidd619 4 жыл бұрын

@@ca2269 Thanks for the advice

@jamesmcgrath1952 5 жыл бұрын

I'm an old fart but I have ridden an R1. Yeah, fun for a short time. I still have a couple thumpers (kick start only) a couple of cruisers (one a full dresser) and an R3. Believe it or not the thumpers are the ones I enjoy the most. That being said I believe that for some a 600cc bike as a starter is fine. For others it's a death sentence. People are different. Some are confident and aggressive others need time to work up and still some others should not get closer than a hundred feet to any kind of bike.

@GrowingDownUnder 5 жыл бұрын

yeah especially if it's a 600 cc dirt bike, they are extremely powerful bikes. Road bikes and dirt bikes are made differently

@stefanvulin9527 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah it depends on what bike, but personally, if I was a beginner and was worried about controlling the power of a 600 I would buy a 600 and get it ECU restricted, and when I get bored I would just get it derestricted and Its like getting a whole nee bike.

@XDM10 5 жыл бұрын

@@stefanvulin9527 smart god damn idea! Looking to buy my first bike and that's the best advice i seen yet!

@siebdereuver6693 5 жыл бұрын

can we have an F in the chat for us european riders with our 125's?

@_VRhaven 5 жыл бұрын

Yes please, sadly i am still a part of that group. ;D

@michaellaureano9838 5 жыл бұрын

@rarescopaceanu5916 5 жыл бұрын

Me and my cbr125r know your pain

@Alvaro-em1dj 5 жыл бұрын

I live in switzerland,i gotta ride a 50cc...

@foxlogistics3543 5 жыл бұрын

@@Alvaro-em1dj might have to do the same :(

@woulfman9693 5 жыл бұрын

I'm still riding my beginner bike, a 2002 CB600S. I took my lessons on a cbr500, but I don't like the 2-cylinder bikes. 600 4 cyl has such a sweet ride. I can recommend it to every beginner. :) great video

@ricktickb00m 5 жыл бұрын

Love your content Yammie. I only became a rider at Christmas with a little 125cc but I'm already binging on your content. Keep up the great work Fanny Lube

@montidude 5 жыл бұрын

I'm a new rider with nearly 0 experience. I just bought a Kawasaki Vulcan S 650cc. It has 60 hp and is very beginner friendly by beeing forgiving and easy to handle. Although it weights about 450 pounds it doesnt feel heavy and is super easy to flat foot. Pardon me my english, I'm from Switzerland

@Nightdare 5 жыл бұрын

These days a supersports are just as forgiving

@brandongalloway5706 5 жыл бұрын

Just got my first bike with no experience either 08 Hyosung gt650r , like yesterday lol....... How's it been so far bro?

@montidude 5 жыл бұрын

@@brandongalloway5706 good for you! Looking nice aswell ;) so far it's been a blast no issues what so ever. Ride save bro

@cesarovalle7242 5 жыл бұрын

@@montidude I got a 2018 ZX6R no ra-grets. Just gotta respect the bike

@EvangelistSmith 5 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video ranking “intermediate level bikes”? Such as Ninja 650, CBR650F, MT 07, etc. PLEASE!

@ericbarber3420 5 жыл бұрын

Kaelan Smith i actually own the cbr600f so this would be nice,

@jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj138 5 жыл бұрын

I bought mt 07 as a starter bike. Altough it is locked to 35kW because of driver licenses we have in europe. But I am loving every second on the bike at it is great starter bike for Euro Bros that can ride it from 18

@ericbarber3420 5 жыл бұрын

Ján Haláček can’t ever go wrong with a mt

@bshep98 5 жыл бұрын

Yes please, I just bought a Ninja 650 as my first bike in October, haven’t gotten the chance to ride her yet.

@EvangelistSmith 5 жыл бұрын

Hugh G. Rection I’m planning on buying a MT07 in a couple weeks, I’m excited!

@hauptmann25 5 жыл бұрын

TBH this felt more like a sport bike vs other bikes debate. After all all 300cc Sport bikes are in reality more like naked bikes with fairings (except for that aggressive RC 390). And real sport bikes are just well, shitty for the street, beginner or not. Would have been more interested in a 300cc vs 600cc naked bike comparison for beginners. MT-07, SV-650, CB650R, Z650 or an R3, 390, Z400 etc.

@orangelion03 5 жыл бұрын

Even as recently as five years ago, there wasnt much choice in the 600-700cc range other than sportbikes and SV650. A lot different now.

@AT2Productions 5 жыл бұрын

orangelion03 Two words - Ducati Monster ... That bike was offered with a 600cc range engine from launch in the early 90’s until just a few years ago. I own a 2005 620ie, which can be seen on my other channel, AT2_Moto.

@orangelion03 5 жыл бұрын

@@AT2Productions Thanks for the reminder! I shoulda known better as my first bike back after a 20 year moto hiatus was an 06 S2R800 and I was very much into the whole Monster scene. Damned fine bikes, and weren really the maintenance hogs many thought they were (at least mine wasnt!). But even the "small" Monsters tended to have higher price than the SV. Regarding maintenance again: a SV valve adjust was nearly as expensive as a desmodue, and if you didnt rev the snot out of it, you could push the interval out.

@ReLCorsa 5 жыл бұрын

300 or 600? Nah 1300 Turbo Busa bb

@ReLCorsa 5 жыл бұрын

Well I've officially peaked in my KZfaq career, got that sweet sweet heart from Gummy Cube himself

@tinek9467 5 жыл бұрын

Then where h2 shuld be ?

@ReLCorsa 5 жыл бұрын

@@tinek9467 Close second choice for those more inclined to get a Kawasaki

@xijinping2561 4 жыл бұрын

Turbo Busa ftw

@immaliveforever1474 5 жыл бұрын

I understand that 300s supposedly aren’t meant for being pushed to the limits constantly but I feel confident that if I had one for a lil to get used to I could tear it up. I only weigh like 130 so the power to weight ratio would be insane

@GentlyThicc 4 жыл бұрын

Probably the best and most informational video I’ve seen in my journey to begin riding my own bike!! Thank you so much!

@Mike-os6iv 4 жыл бұрын

Yam-man, your videos are always interesting and entertaining, but this one is so instructional as well! Good things to think about for my next bike and what I want to use it for. You go way beyond simple specs or "should I get the one with 140 or 150 tires on the rear?" type of useless questions. Keep on doin' what you do.

@kavaldevereux3111 5 жыл бұрын

Send me good vibes people. I just went from racing 125cc pit bikes to riding around on a GSX-R 750

@trevor2830 2 жыл бұрын

how did that work out?

@EazyBoBeezy 5 жыл бұрын

I think it all comes down to the person I started on a 2013 r6 and I’m doing just fine and loving it, my buddy started on a Kawasaki 650 and doesn’t want to go up at all, another friend started on a 300 and feels like he made the right choice. Know yourself and go with your gut. I knew I’d be fine and I was respect the bike and drive safe.

@mugen050 4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the video I need to see before buying my first bike. Solid content!

@DaBudaa1 5 жыл бұрын

Good video, I agree that displacement is not the be-all-end-all. I have a 2019 Kawasaki Z650 ABS as my first bike and do not regret it one bit.

@carlchristophercalo4845 4 жыл бұрын

Roderick Badua really??? How did u manage the speed?? Im still hesitant on buying xsr700 as my first bike

@alexvitorino2572 4 жыл бұрын

I was between z400 and z650. Did you get used fast to the z650? Doesnt it have too much power?

@zilch7116 4 жыл бұрын

Carl Christopher Calo 650 is different than the 636 or zx6r it’s a twin and is MUCH less “jumpy” if you get a 650 you won’t have any issues it’s like a 300 with more torque

@madarchermoto4955 2 жыл бұрын

I’m amazed at how tiny the Ninja 400’s are. I’m 5’11 and a 400 was physically too little for me to be comfortable on

@Nixonbutcher 11 ай бұрын

I'm 6'2 lol you're tiny little human

@madarchermoto4955 11 ай бұрын

@@Nixonbutcher …. 😊😊😊

@Nixonbutcher 11 ай бұрын

@madarchermoto4955 just kidding I'm not 6'2 and you're not little

@lunchy32579 5 жыл бұрын

Seating position was the most important decision for me when I bought my CBR650F. She's my first, and I'm still in love with her. Power was secondary to comfort, because my thought was if I'm not comfortable, then I'm not going to learn to ride properly. Besides, a few well spent dollars, an exhaust, and power commander later, and I'm not racing R6's, but they aren't getting away that fast either.

@royking1 5 жыл бұрын

First bike: passed test and a week later picked up my 2007 Triumph Sprint ST 1050 ABS. Loving it still. Riding for just over 2 years now. Done over 28,000 miles since Nov 2016.

@BRRT199 5 жыл бұрын

So... 600s make about 40 Horsepower and 600s make on average about 115 Horsepower? Damn these schizophrenic bikes man

@Nightdare 5 жыл бұрын

It's those powermode switches man,...

@vaibhavdabwalv1 5 жыл бұрын

Vtec bro VTEC

@sivvinod3187 4 жыл бұрын

@@vaibhavdabwalv1 shingo approves

@bigraz1999 4 жыл бұрын

Before and after 300 shot

@circumcizednun1814 3 жыл бұрын

That made me cheer up a bit, thanks man

@willdavids7075 4 жыл бұрын

First bike was a Honda 250 and was fun to ride. Got back what I actually paid for it when I sold it. Your first bike is what it is “your first bike” don’t be concerned with anything else but to get something manageable that you won’t get hurt on that you can sharpen your skills to get something more fun and expensive.

@bullpups4life189 5 жыл бұрын

Street triple 675 was a fantastic beginner bike and you wont get bored with it for years. I bought mine in July 2015 and still own it.

@davidtsw 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this new (for me) and incredibly useful way of looking at motorcycles and their performance.

@sapphirestone8672 4 жыл бұрын

I love how Yammie doesn’t take out his mess ups

@Brian_R6 3 жыл бұрын

I bought an R6 with less than 24 hours riding experience an I love it

@cjfruge9294 3 жыл бұрын

How is it?

@Brian_R6 3 жыл бұрын

@@cjfruge9294 Lotta fun man. I actually learned to ride 2 years before on a Ninja 300 an SV650 then finally was able to get my own. During the riding sessions on those bikes I'm sure it added up to less than 24 hours. The R6 riding position is very aggressive compared to other bikes an pushes a lot of engine heat. The GSXR is more Comfortable.

@joejessica8555 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a new rider starting on a ninja zx600r Idk how tf i do it but so far so good, i just try to stay away from every car on the road if possible, only ride hard when the streets are open for me to if not i keep it at the speed limit, not worth risking my life or wrecking the bike.

@Brian_R6 3 жыл бұрын

@@joejessica8555 Exactly my mentality too. Anyone can ride a 600 or liter bike once they have huge amounts of discipline. I only speed when it's safe to do so.

@C22_ 5 жыл бұрын

This was really helpful and insightful, even though I knew a 300 was all I was willing to consider upon finishing my motorcycle safety foundations course. I now know to look at something else before my purchase..power/torque curves...

@deathscythehell7937 5 жыл бұрын

I began teaching my wife to ride about a year an a half ago. I started her out on a Suzuki 300, she progressed quickly, she wanted to move up to a 600 four months after she started riding. I held her off on that making sure she had enough experience an seat time before moving up to a 600. A month ago I was finally comfortable with her stepping up and we got her a Gsx'er 600, at first it was a little much for her. So we selected a lower power setting until she got used to the weight and response of the bike. We gradually increase the power settings until now she on full power mode, she's doing great. People want to move to fast stepping up to a 600 or liter bike before they have the skills necessary to control the power. I wish I could've learned to ride like that, but I had to be Billy Badass and started on a Ninja 900 back in the 80s. The worst bike in the world to learn on, had alot of bumps, bruises and scrapes but I learned the ride.

@takethatlfr9337 2 жыл бұрын

And then everyone clapped

@luukhoezen5924 5 жыл бұрын

I always go on vacation with my dad on the Yamaha Thunderrace 1000. We drive a whole week Everyday day. We only drive trough mountain passes. Now that's hard even though im on the back. Your position on the bike matters.

@solemnlyswear966 5 жыл бұрын

“Yammie be my dad” lmfao that had me dead

@EMSRUchihaMadara 5 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the knowledge your dropping. You just got another subscriber. Thanks bro for the info!

@happychoices 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I had no idea about 600 race purpose and resulting uncomfortable road feel if used for everyday street riding. I subscribed.

@techoverload7117 4 жыл бұрын

I bought a 2003 Honda cbr600rr for my first bike just over a month ago and all I can say is I absolutely love it... I’ve never scared myself too bad on it.

@ciuk98 2 жыл бұрын

update after 1 year hoomie? bcos I'm about to take the same step lol

@lifeafd2691 Жыл бұрын

@@ciuk98 update after 2 year now imma do the same thing

@ciuk98 Жыл бұрын

@@lifeafd2691 in 2022 i bought a 2007 cbr600rr , best choice in my life, i only had a problem with "front suspension" i doni know the name, due to the age of sealings, 300 euros,

@vidhyutgopinath9806 5 жыл бұрын

I started to learn 4 months back on a 2018 Ducati supersport , now I moved over to 2018 Aprilia 1100 v4 tuono. People advised against it but it didn’t seem to matter. As long as you know your limits and value your life you should be okay. I’m still a beginner rider but i respect my machine and value my life even more.

@ok0_0 2 жыл бұрын

you alive brother?

@octobuh 2 жыл бұрын

@@ok0_0 i doubt it

@guygio7721 2 жыл бұрын

@@ok0_0 lmao

@PeePee666PooPoo Жыл бұрын

@@guygio7721 ouuhh

@apollo9633 8 ай бұрын

Bro is dead

@SchwartzBOSS 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for all your videos Yammie, because of you i enlisted for motorcycle licence starting next week

@zoll5534 4 жыл бұрын

The first bike I rode was a zx6r and I'm still alive. I grew up riding dirt bikes and quads so I thought I knew what I was doing but street bikes are vastly different. If you just stay at low rpms you will be fine since the most power is made above 8k rpms. Ride smart and safe and you can learn on a 600.

@gabrielbarcelos1226 5 жыл бұрын

300 vs 600 "Si Si" argument. I lost it in this sentence. Keep up the good stuff and jokes, papa Yam

@fredchevry5786 5 жыл бұрын

It's not even controversial; You SHOULD start on a 250, but COULD start on a 600. I had a blast on my Ninja 250 and enjoyed every minute on it. I'm absolutely convinced I wouldn't have enjoyed my current ZX6R as a starter bike.

@DamaniJones 5 жыл бұрын

How long did you have your 250 for?

@solesoul2108 5 жыл бұрын

@Cris .LaFlames because

@samuelpierce2994 5 жыл бұрын

I just got my first bike. It's a 2004 Suzuki S40 Boulevard with a 650 single. It's got enough power to get you on the highway and then some for passing. It's not murderously fast and it definitely won't throw you off the saddle. All for 2000 bucks, I do recommend.

@johannjacobs6401 4 жыл бұрын

As a 69 yr old returning rider i strongly considered a 250/300 mainly commuting speed limits here mainly 60/80 km/h but i ended up with a 2012 cbf600s in a pristine condition. at a price much cheeper than the smaller bikes, i though 76 hp is enough and an overkill, but busa man put my mind in a different perspective, always good to listen to the" clever" people out there.

@CrimeEnjoyer 5 жыл бұрын

I barely even consider power into the equation when I say beginners should stay away from 600's. Any beginner can stick to low revs and half of the super sports have rider modes these days. The touchy brakes and precise shifting are more likely to get them into trouble. Beginners grab brakes and shift sloppily, and doing either in the wrong situation on a 600 will spill you. Even with ABS and a slipper clutch. IMO people who recommend 600's to "grow into" have taken for granted just how far along they are, and they have forgotten how big a learning curve on bikes are. Add the mentioned ergonomics and heavier weight into the mix with a beginner who is extra nervous because they started with an expensive bike, and it's just a bad recipe. Starter bikes are nerve-wracking enough to start on for beginners and you'll probably be able to sell your starter bike from craigslist for the same $2000 you bought it for, so it's not like you're down anything for learning on a starter bike. And it's not like you won't have fun either; 250's/300's are super light and flickable and you get to rev the piss out of them, and you'll be more inclined to since you won't be out much if you hafta lay'erdown.

@Nightdare 5 жыл бұрын

Yup, especially these days with advanced injection, bikes' power is smooth and controllable (Unlike my 1st Gen injection '98 750 SRAD which had the knack of trying to launch you out of a corner with just a hair more throttle, I also still hear the horror stories of older R1 riders from time to time)

@silverarrow2013 5 жыл бұрын

Well that depends on a Beginner if they have a Brain and respect the bike it's fine to ride a 600cc for start. But if it's a F*ckin moron give it a Grom.

@jackbandit2114 5 жыл бұрын

Just got a Triumph Scrambler 900, but I still have love for my Rebel 250. That little guy is still a blast to ride.

@Ball.Daily11 5 жыл бұрын

It depends on the person. I started out on a 600cc and I was fine but before that even tho I had zero bike experience I regularly take my M3 to the track and I have a race license so I was kinda mechanically inclined to pick up riding quick. Anybody else going from zero to a 600 will probably drop it the first time they ride it lol

@s19pajua13 4 жыл бұрын

Ball Daily hey I have some performance driving under my belt with a manual car? Should I be good enough for a 600?

@seanmatson1063 5 жыл бұрын

You're cranking out great content lately!

@ChadOHara98 5 жыл бұрын

Dude, thank you for mentioning that motorcycle ergos website. I’m currently swapping an RM250 two-stroke into a cbr250 and putting rs125 bodywork on it. I needed the dimensions of the rs125, and the website did the trick. Thanks! Great video BTW.

@lucardolswick5390 5 жыл бұрын

Slammin groove I have to say I completely agree that starting on a smaller bike and working your way up is the way, I started on the 2 cylinder 500 cbr500r, great bike, loved it, but was faster than it in about 12 months, now moved on to the CBR600RR, love it, but would not have started on it due to how I ride... fast. I am quickly getting faster than that though now and looking forward to the next upgrade. I love the aggressive position and play in the twisties more or less constantly so for me it is the obvious choice. I do believe next I'm going for the fireblade or the beamer S1000RR. Love your advice, keep up the good work Grammy luge.

@Anderson88G22 5 жыл бұрын

You fail to mention the self control it takes to ride a 600 slow, however coming from a 2 time daytona slayer its not surprising.

@Joshua-by4dc 4 жыл бұрын

If you can't ride slow in a 600cc in the streets, you should never ride one, no matter if you are a new rider or experienced, you have to ride slow in the streets on both cases

@sero143 5 жыл бұрын

Guilty, I was a phantom subscriber. But not anymore 😌

@CandidoMendez 5 жыл бұрын

I came here to listen to Yam sing. I was blown away by the last intro, please bring back the vocals!

@marvinsellers7345 Жыл бұрын

Great breakdown, I’ve been riding R1s on the track for years with a 27 inch inseam (do the math) and love the power. Just bought a 2023 ZX 6 and do appreciate the ergonomic difference. The only issue now is getting “liter biked” out of corners by my buddies. Work harder on the brakes and through the corners, then watch them pull away in the straight.

@lilyjean8110 5 жыл бұрын

“Yammie Noob be my dad” I’m screaming from the bleachers.

@Tyeeger-xtr 5 жыл бұрын

I think the power curve of the R6 is why it's a perfect bike to learn on. Under 12k rpm it's very tame and manageable. As you gain some confidence and skill, you can simply start pushing the revs and you already have a very quick and sporty bike. Most importantly clutch timing and shifting mistakes wont throw you off the bike when you're a total noob. I thought it was great to learn on. And eventually the lack of torque makes it feel slow and when that happens there are plenty of litre machines to buy:)

@TheAcdcnz 2 жыл бұрын

'Perfect bike to learn on' hahahaha that's a bit of a stretch mate.

@thaisbrambilla976 5 жыл бұрын

I cant wait to check that website out. I have been going back and forth on bikes and sizes so maybe i will finally figure it out the ergonomics of some of these. Thanks daddy yammie

@mikemccown7264 5 жыл бұрын

Oh jeez Ymmie McStammie, these videos are absolute gems like that 400! Keep on keeping on like a scoob, and making videos for us noobs.

@sushantgaikwad2878 5 жыл бұрын

We Love You Papa Poop ❤️

@stevenputnam6584 5 жыл бұрын

Miss my bike already man......it just got ran over on Thursday and I wound up in the hospital with multiple broken bones. Can't wait to be back on 2 wheels

@stevenputnam6584 5 жыл бұрын

Poor 09 500r Kawasaki

@revialle5434 5 жыл бұрын

Damn dude,hope you get better soon !

@solesoul2108 5 жыл бұрын

@@revialle5434 ded

@lankygangster2839 4 жыл бұрын

By 2 wheels you mean a wheelchair?

@TacitSwine750 3 жыл бұрын

@@lankygangster2839 Hell, you can pop some sick wheelies on those as well.

@centralcal6604 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks yammi I'm new at the channel and tell u what I love every video u upload!

@reigningeclipse6871 4 жыл бұрын

I started out on a Honda Cbr500r and I think it's perfect and fun to start out on.

@sindhusanthosh1526 5 жыл бұрын

Just another video which will make people go insane while watching another video because u just one to be the first on to comment to get that love form god yammie

@1worldgaming18 5 жыл бұрын

beginners get a used bike that not very expensive so u dont get bummed out when u drop it or lay it down in a corner. engine 250-650cc (1 or 2 cylinders) never mind what make and model , ride the crap out of it in every gear and get something better when u are more experienced as a rider cheers

@Decisionz11 3 жыл бұрын

had to say, ive been watching yammie's videos for about 2 years now and i just heard his phantom watchers joke and tbh... i had to sub after that.

@tylerewing6814 5 жыл бұрын

Lovin the content you are making me a much more knowledgeable squid!

@SuperBounce1987 5 жыл бұрын

My first bike was a Honda CG125 then when I passed my test for my full license I went for a classic Suzuki RG500. Two-stroke madness! I don't think 300cc and 600cc should be the only options for "First bikes" hell the bikes I got after my RG500 was the CBR954RR and the Hornet 900. It all should depend on your ability as a rider and how sensible you are. Some of my friends think I was stupid to skip the middle weight bikes altogether but I've never dropped them. My CG125 has been dropped more times than I can count however. And my friends have either written off their 600s or killed themselves on them because... Well let's be honest they were over confident and stupid.

@SaidWithSilence 5 жыл бұрын

*2019; Year of the YAM*

@D1Rty0I3L4d3 3 жыл бұрын

I went for a Yamaha XJ6N, power at around 80HP not overwhelming. All in all a good beginner bike, in my opinion ofc.

@pedrogtr32 4 жыл бұрын

Finally someone that thinks the same way than me , if a 600c.c bike was driven until 10k rpm only produces around 80hp, its enought to enjoy and have fun and even the engine is getting less stress than a 300/400c.c. The breaks and suspensions are exponencial better and that provides a safer drive. The drive is less demanding if you drive until 9/10krpm of course.

@123499893 5 жыл бұрын

I got a 636 as my first bike,, I'm still alive

@seymourbands1097 4 жыл бұрын

Manuel RVS any tips ?

@ivanreyeros8113 4 жыл бұрын

@@seymourbands1097 just dont be nuts and take it easy. Practice one thing at a time and let time and distance acumulate. Dont push your limits, practice at your level and rythm. I started on an Yamaha MT-07 (689cc) as my first bike 3 years ago and even though i got the typical "you're crazy" comments from some people, i really had no trouble at all. Not all 600+cc bikes are made to race like Yammie says in the video, I think he was really taking about the SuperBikes category only (which are the ones that get 110+ horsepower too, mine gets only to 74).

@jeff-eo6ee 4 жыл бұрын

@@ivanreyeros8113 an MT09 is much closer to an r6 or a 600rr, the mt07 isn't even close the the level of power that 600cc supersports have

@andrecastanheira8896 3 жыл бұрын

@@ivanreyeros8113 I started with a Ducati Monster 821 (109hp) and I'm here lol

@jokerpaisa4ever 3 жыл бұрын

I almost killed myself in a 400 but then again I did learn how to get my knee down

@EyeForKnowledge. 5 жыл бұрын

300: Go kart track weapon 600: True track weapon 1000: Street racing weapon. Period.

@love2fight205 3 жыл бұрын

Turbo busa: God’s weapon.

@rickyw.2631 5 жыл бұрын

Lmao, I started out as a "phantom subscriber," but I subbed after watching the "motorcycle history" videos

@Janggo1911 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Yammie! Motovlogger from the Philippines here. This is a hot subject here in our country. Most of our roads are not capable of stretching out a liter bike, so these middleweights are most favored. Go get that well deserved 1M subs!

@E2Moto 5 жыл бұрын

JanggoMoto 1911 Living in the PI until I was 12, I bet it would be fun for me to go back there and ride my motard. Those tight, bumpy(lubak-lubak) roads would be ideal for my supermoto to ride on.

@Janggo1911 5 жыл бұрын

@E2Moto, you would be surprised that you would be needing something more powerful. City & country roads have improved a whole lot. But definitely, a supermoto still has got lots of suspension travel to gobble all those pesky potholes & breaks on the road. Ride safe.

@E2Moto 5 жыл бұрын

@@Janggo1911 I can agree with that. It's been 17 years since I've last been in the PI, but my parents flew there about 5 years ago, and looking at their pics there, the whole country did improve a lot. What's the average highway speed there?

@Janggo1911 5 жыл бұрын

Long time. 100kph would be fairly average. You can get up to 160-200kph on some parts but mostly, there are just too many obstacles on the road and each can just touch you a bit and you go flying off the road at that speeds.

@E2Moto 5 жыл бұрын

JanggoMoto 1911 My motard will be perfectly fine with that highway speed. I ride my DRZ at 80 MPH(128 KPH) in the freeways here in California, and my bike can go faster, but I prefer not to stress the engine too much.

@mightyakkylex 4 жыл бұрын

I'm getting a 500cc at least as my first bike since I already have some experience on my dad's 125cc and I want something I can grow into and I won't have to change it in a year or two

@Hammzy93 3 жыл бұрын

Same. Was looking at ninja 300/400, but I like the Honda cb500s a lot.

@mightyakkylex 3 жыл бұрын

@@Hammzy93 my brother just made a down payment for a brand new cb500f last week, it's a mighty nice motorcycle

@christopherhuggins3212 5 жыл бұрын

The FZ-07 will decimate all with some overnight parts from Japan at Harry's

@MarsWolf82 5 жыл бұрын

Lol my 1st bike was a CBR900 so yeah...then again it was also given to me as a gift. Loved that bike.

@ianleonlo 2 жыл бұрын

just wanna say that i love that you got your deck in the backdrop. got my skateboarding ass' attention straight away. now im gonna carry on and watch what i came here for...

@harrytuttle1283 4 жыл бұрын

"600's make on average 40 horsepower, and 600's on average make about 115 horsepower" 🤦‍♂️

@6LVCKSHEEP 5 жыл бұрын

“Yammy be my dad” lmao

@JacobJohnson-mf6df 5 жыл бұрын

I was a phantom watcher .... until you almost had a breakdown in this video.... now I'm properly subscribed lol

@S4WYERonPC 5 жыл бұрын

Leaving some special love for Papa Yam

@camero896 5 жыл бұрын

6:34 I wonder how do i look like when riding with R3. I´m 5´5 btw. sorry for being short.

@asnaeb-er3wz 5 жыл бұрын

I bet that yamm will get an endorsement from Triumph faster than learning to set a green screen properly.

@mrschwifty5564 5 жыл бұрын

Not a good look when the rider keeps crashing their bikes.

@stevencorbo1220 4 жыл бұрын

That's why you should look at the 92 to 2005 ZX6E. THIS BIKE IS COMFORTABLE TO RIDE and it's got great power 👍

@kanand00 5 жыл бұрын

Hi , u are fantastic. yr script is a pleasure to listen too. keep it up.

@bobbyromo69 5 жыл бұрын

That awkward moment when my bike cost way more than my car did lol

@Mr.M1STER 5 жыл бұрын

In Ireland there are different categories of bike licences. AM, A1, A2 and A. The first 3 are generally for young guys because these categories are for mopeds (AM) and low cc bikes or restricted bikes. If you are 24 years of age or older you can apply directly for the A licence which allows you to ride any bike you want but here is the thing. You have to pass your test on a bike of at least 600cc.

@carloshill290 5 жыл бұрын

hey yammie love ur vids man any advice for someone returning to the motorcycle world after almost 10 years

@alphonsonestor-hubert6011 5 жыл бұрын

I loved this episode man!!!

@abde4645 5 жыл бұрын

1:40 you said 600 hehe :D

@PaulWall. 4 жыл бұрын

I already bought a 600 as my first bike... why am I watching this😂

@saltygringo 5 жыл бұрын

I've only had 3 bikes; 91 CBR 600, 88 GSXR 1100, 06 CBR 1000. Was much older when I got the CBR 1000 & I focused much more on tire selection and learning to ride the bike properly, not just fast straight. I could've used knee sliders, maybe elbow pucks, after awhile. The power was never really needed even if I could've REALLY used it. So, yeah, don't focus so much on high HP, get the one that fits and may give you 'room for improvement'

@NOeeeGO 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's good that Logic is making motorcycle videos now.

@MosesTheExplorer 3 жыл бұрын

Considering the Honda CB650R as my first bike as a beginner, thoughts on this?

@dylanpierce7784 2 жыл бұрын

Im actually looking at the same bike did you get it and how do you like it if you did?

@MosesTheExplorer 2 жыл бұрын

@@dylanpierce7784 amazing bike! From the looks to the performance! It is top of its line when it comes to the 650cc Japanese naked for a reason. Ride safe

@HexDan 2 жыл бұрын

After jumping to a 1000 from a 300 as my second bike i am now fully convinced that this whole "start on a 300/600" thing is full of sh*t. Its a ploy for manufacturers to sell you more bikes. Change my mind 😅

@noahknight4039 2 жыл бұрын

Starting on anything below a 650cc and some 600cc is a waste of time and money. You’ll out grow a 300cc in a week. Everyone I know that rides started on a 600cc and up. And the ones that started with bikes below 1000cc, ended up getting a 1000cc plus within a year.

@HexDan 2 жыл бұрын

@@noahknight4039 Basically what I said but in different wording. So yes.