Slavery, Malware, & More should we take TEMU's money? - Stitches - Old Carvin

Slavery, Malware, & More should we take TEMU's money? - Stitches - Old Carvin - Right Hand Bass -511

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@TranscendentBen 5 ай бұрын

To the title question, NO! Cory Doctorow wrote some stuff on the enshittification of things, and TEMU is surely the epitome of that.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

They’re definitely a big part of that, taking the Amazon service model to the extreme. - steve

@marcy_law 5 ай бұрын

Dude i used to read Cory doctorows fiction books in middle school. I had no idea he wrote non fiction

@ErbieGerbies 4 ай бұрын

The philosophical depth of this episode is a cool glimpse into the thought and care you put into this show, and honestly the thought and care with which you regard your fellow human beings.

@federicomanuti9742 5 ай бұрын

Never would have I thought to hear the sentence "but let's move on to slavery" in a 60 cycle hum video

@0b11000100 5 ай бұрын

Ryan: TEMU is full of trash! TEMU: Shut up and take my money!!!

@ianstu7 5 ай бұрын

As someone who teaches English in Taiwan and has studied Chinese for several years, it pained me to hear Steve say "Xinjiang" hahahaha. As far as the Temu stuff goes, if there is more content to squeeze out at their expense, I say go for it. Keep it up, guys!

@smartmammal9926 5 ай бұрын

When I was a kid I swear Carvin was the only guitar and equipment company I knew because of the catalogs in my brother's room.That and Peavey.

@theothertonydutch 5 ай бұрын

there is a version of this story but instead of guitar catalogs it is something with burly oiled up men.

@jakey1988 5 ай бұрын

Ironically peavey was one of the companies that is alleged to have used prison labour. Shame.

@MusicTherapyLaz 5 ай бұрын

Hey dudes... listening to this while setting up my studio room... again! It never ends!

@jamesonpace726 5 ай бұрын

Great to see 2 regular guys arguing complicated ethical problems in our modern nightmarish tech world. We are all doomed! Doomed, I say....

@wriglarzzz 5 ай бұрын

I love when you guys talked about Mexican food for an hour, I would totally listen to that at work

@zuperfire1111 Ай бұрын

Hi, i discovered the Channel few weeks Ago. I like it. Very interesting discussion about Temu.

@charlie-obrien 4 ай бұрын

I came back to this video, because I have been made aware by watching another channel of the many ways that YT is making things harder for you guys to get compensated for your work, while at the same time Amazon is slashing it's commissions for affiliate links. So when this first downloaded my opinion of your working with Temu was not high, for a few good reasons which I still feel are valid. That said, do what you need to do to keep 60CH going and keep yourselves out of the breadlines. Lol You are always open and honest on this channel and so if you get paid by them and acknowledge it, what else can we hope for? Keep up the great work and we will keep supporting and watching. PS; I bought a T-shirt even though I'm not naked. (much)

@60CycleHumcast 4 ай бұрын

Appreciate the understanding. We def have a hope that folks will understand the bigger picture and see how unexcited the temu vids are compared to other videos. - steve

@otakuholly8885 5 ай бұрын

Ok ex prisoner in california here, got out in 2020 i did 20 years went in at 19. California has laws where they cannot sell prison made goods but we are an exception to other states. We still make goods its called PIA prison industry authority. The goods are for prisoners and other state ran facilities. (Like license plates, matressee, clothes) we do NOT all get paid majority of jobs are non paying and if you're lucky youll yet 10 cents or 13 cents a hour. Some exceptional jobs offer 1 dollar an hour.

@stuarthelmn3699 5 ай бұрын

Its good to be able to discuss in detail, and accept none of us are as free from blame as we want to be. But we have to be honest. i think one of the biggest things you can take away is as you said with the affordaboard, just save up for something thats better quality, its worth it in many senses

@TVsBen 5 ай бұрын

I know the kind of people Steve is talking about. College buddies who I lived with for four years and who came to my wedding, then moved across the country and I haven't seen in nearly 20 years. It's sad, but definitely understand that it happens. Also, I'm not sure the argument that "you already own things made by slaves so it's okay that Temu doesn't try to vet its sellers for slavery practices" is a good argument.

@Knight_Artorias 5 ай бұрын

The answer to the question of the video for me is, No you shouldn't take their money, and to me it boils down to Money or Morals

@JzuHax 4 ай бұрын

You rant about harvesting data was totally on point. The fun part is, you live off of it. All KZfaqrs, Google Ads users are making money out of, actually, nothing. And thank you for your other rant, on widespread slavery.

@traviswaynedoyle 2 ай бұрын

Just getting around to watching this episode. Thanks again as always for producing and posting content! P.S. I love the way Ryan says "orange".

@ROCKNROLLMODS 4 ай бұрын

I dig listening to the podcast at work. Its one of the few that i don't need to see the video. This may not be a popular comment, but at the end of the day, we hate all over the big brands, but when looking at these boutique guitars, we say they suck because they aren't the big name. At the end of the day, we're all just haters at heart. So if someone like this is selling a guitar, and someone loves it, and the seller/builder is willing to stand behind playability claims, do it! That being said, if it is truly mdf, RUNNNNN!!!!!! Ive dissected the cheapest of the cheap, and sent out a product that is as good or better than the brands we love to hate. And never ever ever ever come across an mdf guitar. Seriously, I know they have disproved the whole "tone-wood in electrics" thing, but mdf is actually designed to be the opposite of resonant. And yes mdf guitars would have to weigh 15ish pounds with no relief.

@damianjoseph9222 5 ай бұрын

I'd love to get a 50/50! That is super exciting.

@BlugubriousMusic 5 ай бұрын

Quick note Re: Temu vs. Ali. All ethics questions aside, Ali has gone very bad very fast... I had ordered from them for years... then trouble. Whole orders, partial orders, never come, incorrect. I ordered the Movall pedal you just did from Temu because your Amazon link was out of stock... I thought since they both sponsored you, I felt ok. Pedal came fast, cheaper than Amazon, good up to date communication. Not saying I am going back to either, but for me, no more Ali... and I might try Temu again. Great discussion.

@The_True_ 5 ай бұрын

That Tele at the beginning was cracked straight through where the strap button should have been, so it probably can't even support a strap. That's a major issue for a $700 guitar. Hard pass for sure.

@joeandreana2645 5 ай бұрын

I loved that M Vave (spelling?) pedal I bought because of your video!

@CharlesWillisBonsai 5 ай бұрын

Cuvave?

@SlaughteredDecay 5 ай бұрын

@@CharlesWillisBonsaisame company. They changed their name.

@jhayes1189 5 ай бұрын

You’re thinking of the FMT Tele necks because of color, but those were set necks

@TerrestrialMack 5 ай бұрын

i saw that Carvin on a reverb ad on fb lol. had to click on it too

@MiguelMakesMusic 5 ай бұрын

Such a great podcast, takes balls to call out corrupt business practices. Surprised the dude bro brigade hasn’t shown up with their whataboutism.

@norseman61 5 ай бұрын

Like some other folks have mentioned, I’d like to know something about Temu’s guitar repair tools. I just can’t get myself to pay a lot of money for tools that I’ll only use a handful of times.

@wriglarzzz 5 ай бұрын

I love this podcast. Go outside the box and talk more about other subjects

@davelanciani-dimaensionx 5 ай бұрын

Carvin also made some great amps back in the 1980's. Frank Zappa and Steve Vai used them back then. Steve Vai's Flex-Able album was recorded with one, so was Dweezil's first album. I'd love to get a hold of one of their old Solid State amps (the SX-100). Carvin guitars were very good quality for the money, until Keisel bought them and doubled/tripled the prices for similar guitars.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

FYI, Kiesel was founded as a company split, not a buy out. Kiesel is the family name of the original founder and the current owners are the son and grandson of the founder. - steve

@davelanciani-dimaensionx 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast Aha - good to know - thank for the correction.

@clairbeeguitar 5 ай бұрын

Get that bag. Might be a bit bleak but you should do a pedal or noise maker build with temu parts and call it "The Human Misery Machine"

@katfishzomby 5 ай бұрын

Be Rifftrax/MST3K silly. it'd be like joking on b-movies. (or Let's Game It Out on youtube). As for fraud, working at a bank i think I've only seen a couple of people question their Temu transactions. Most people question their paypal, venmo, and amazon payments. on a daily basis. yeesh. And you're right about researching and people being 110% confident about incorrect info. I have stories like that from this job. lol

@davedavid7061 5 ай бұрын

Those bid sites are called penny auctions. You buy bids for $7 each and have to buy like 10 at a time. So your penny bid will xost YOU $7 for each bid

@peteygonemadarts4765 5 ай бұрын

If you do decide to do another TEMU video maybe do review of guitar accessories and things like repair kits , luthier kits , and things like wireless guitar transmitters . The kinds of things people would maybe like to see if they'd like to expand their guitar experience. Thing I like about the cheap options is if you want to try something new then the cheap option is usually a safe bet to see if it's something someone wants to experiment with . For example a cheap luthier kit and a yard sale junk guitar is a great way to see if someone really wants to do that kind of work themselves and learn or just take the experience to understand what a luthier is really being paid for . P.S that song has a Blink 182 feel to it . Almost feels like it was influenced by Adam's Song , maybe ? Wasn't a bad song 😎

@mattcarnevali 5 ай бұрын

TCU is the horned frogs. My college’s basketball coach left to go coach for them. I don’t see anything wrong with doing Temu videos as the ones you do with your own money

@acousticglue 5 ай бұрын

Google has Harvesters as well as job placement companies have harvesters. Its all over the internet no matter what you do.

@trevorgawdin2200 5 ай бұрын

Hey guys, just want to say thanks for addressing this. Love your videos and your honesty and transparency. If you want to make nonsense temu videos I'll watch them!

@gaskins2077 5 ай бұрын

I bought a couple pedals from them. M valve and movall. Love the sound of them. Knobs are a little weak, but set the inobs where i want and dont plan on doing too much knob wiggling. Happy with em so far. They offer a lot better price if you buy off the app. I did not download their spyware. The couple bucks off didnt seem worth it.

@timoconnell6973 5 ай бұрын

I wish you would start ordering guitar necks and see what ones are good

@gph2193 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful Fiender.

@carlmcgregor2707 5 ай бұрын

I had to ask my friend what Temu was... she said it was an upscale version of Wish. I looked at the site and knew I would never buy from them. I would rather spend more money for products that will last more than 6 months before ending in a rubbish bin.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

100% it seems really obvious - steve

@purrpocalypse 5 ай бұрын

I have to admit, I buy all my socks and underwear from Temu. Everything else on there is just kinda junk, but sometimes junk can be fun I guess.

@thomaslknapp 5 ай бұрын

The main difference between Wish and Temu is free shipping (on $10 minimum order).

@tomfinn8076 5 ай бұрын

The supreme court has thrown out and heard cases about the use of slave labor and child labor. They have basically said that there is no culpability on the side of the large companies to keep track of their entire supply chain. Some companies pretend to care, but when any scrutiny is applied, you find out that big companies all have forced labor somewhere in the supply chain.

@ghalsor 5 ай бұрын

I have purchased 2 guitar related products from TEMU. The first was a distortion pedal which did one sound fine, but there was no variability. It was worth the $1 I spent, but it sucks. The second was a notched straight edge and fret rocker for $13. I’m sure the tolerances are not to Stew Mac, but they work really well for a non-professional. It is made of thick metal and I would highly recommend.

@OliverAmberg 5 ай бұрын

Temu-Money smells soooo good! 🤑

@FatPandaCat-im9ec 5 ай бұрын

You should take the Monday cause at least it’s going back into the American economy. It’s impossible to boycott anyone on moral or ethical grounds now. Everything and everybody, even the companies we trust, takes some component or product from a country that uses an exploited workforce. Even the wages most of us are paid have in some form been generated off the back of an exploited country somewhere else.

@richardf.8412 5 ай бұрын

Workers of the world unite!

@werewolfmedialv 5 ай бұрын

How are they my age and don't understand how to pronounce "Mal-Ware"

@billmack753 5 ай бұрын

U use what u have to spread the word no matter whom created the device! 👀👀👍👍👍

@guitarandstuff 5 ай бұрын

I've always agreed and identified with Steve's political viewpoints. But after I heard Ryan talking about guillotines I might have to switch to him for being the most relatable host!!!

@two50ne77 2 ай бұрын

Ryan can we do a Goth jam?

@thomaslknapp 5 ай бұрын

Would I buy a repro 1959 Les Paul Sunburst from Temu? Nope. Have I bought minor inexpensive stuff from Temu and got my money's worth? Absolutely. Tuners. Straps. Picks. I think I bought a nut for a $5 garage sale guitar. I've found most of their stuff satisfactory and worth the price (I do not recommend buying guitar strings from them -- and I'm not a high-end guy, they were just crap). Hey, if they're paying you and not asking you to lie, take the money!

@j.jester7821 5 ай бұрын

Put those pickups in a decent cheap guitar and he would have had something. these pickups in a squier tele would have been better. This is a case where the hardware is worth more than the guitar. It is a hoopty, like when someone puts expensive rims on a rusted out Chevy Caprice classic.

@cwbassmsncom 5 ай бұрын

The meat packing cleaners are independent contractors, most are family run businesses and they have the family children work, like you said late at night under the radar. Its not Hormel doing it but they should know whats going on in their plant. How many undocumented minors are working in basement factories maybe on your block. I wouldn't buy from Temu if you paid me too.

@wriglarzzz 5 ай бұрын

How do I send in songs guys?

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

60cyclehumcast@gmail.com, send a file like an mp3

@EK10241024 5 ай бұрын

I.ve ordered from temu 5 times. Generally, I've been satisfied, because my expectations weren't high. I've also had things arive that were litteral junk. I will buy form them, but not so sure I would buy something for a couple hundred bucks form Temu and trust it will be a good value. Everyone gets our data, so its almost to the point the information is worthless.

@78tag 5 ай бұрын

.. "its almost to the point the information is worthless." That mentality is what got us in this sh*tshow in the first place. Have you put any thought into this? This isn't about a good deal for your pocket book - take five minutes to research who this company is and how they operate. At least consider the fact that every dollar you give to the Chinese economy is another dollar contributed to a government whose priority is to destroy America.

@warrenharman3435 5 ай бұрын

TEMU Idea for show - I am considering doing a TEMU Pedal Project Build - a pedalboard in/out box. Large empty pedal box, four 1/4 inch jacks. Maybe add a buffer circuit. Warm up the soldering iron and put under my tuner. This way when I gig I can put the wear and tear on the box instead of my first/last pedal. $10 project? What do you think?

@StupidGuitar 5 ай бұрын

The devices being made in China issue is intellectually dishonest and often used to deflect criticism. I try not to support authoritarian governments. I worked at a company that made a product that was hugely successful in China and the amount of crap I learned and the moral questions I asked myself daily were huge. That said we largely extracted money from the Chinese economy. Specifically to the point of not buying Chinese… guitar equipment is a luxury item. There’s tons of alternatives to almost anything guitar related that AREN’T Chinese or at least don’t send the majority of the profit to China. You have the option to make better choices and when you can you should. This goes for all products. I try to buy local wherever possible too. That said if you want to take Temu money have at it. People who are gonna buy cheap crap are gonna buy cheap crap. No one who is taking the Temu stance, including myself, was gonna buy anything in Temu anyway.

@two50ne77 2 ай бұрын

Steve are you in biotech in SD? Me too!

@60CycleHumcast 2 ай бұрын

I sure am - steve

@spiked-b5761 5 ай бұрын

About slavery, I don't wanna destroy your dreams, but you can and will find slavery involved products on every chinese low cost (and some high end stuff too) you can buy. Amazon, Aliexpress, Temu, and even regular brands that just make in china.

@kylerovagug2005 5 ай бұрын

60 cycle textiles

@chrisnealis4270 5 ай бұрын

I dig the Carvin

@EveyoneCallsMeTheDude 5 ай бұрын

It’s Mal-ware not Mall-ware

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

mall where?

@Iodine74 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast mall wear.... Nike's and Levi's 501s with an OP shirt.

@redbirdjazzz 4 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast There mall. There castle!

@johnplaystheguitar123 5 ай бұрын

Isn't it pronounced Emm Vah Vay? Not Mwave.

@LetsShave61 4 ай бұрын

Temu is full of garbage but thats the fun in it for me. I order safety razors to use on my channel because im a curious person. Obviously if i spend 100+$ on a razor the odds are its gonna be quality and provide a quality shave but when i see a razor for .67cents i get curious, how bad can it be? lol. I do have a friend who buys clothing from temu and as far as i know she has had good luck with quality and getting what she orders. Maybe a lot of it depends on the kinds of items someone is looking for? I also think these days people cant be picky and are just strugging to get by. Some people dont have the convenience of choice. If someone can afford some basic needs from temu because they are cheaper than anywhere else and the products are good enough and it helps them survive these days, i wont judge. Do what yuh gotta do! Also gentleman, do what you gotta do to pay your bills.

@jeffreydooley3745 5 ай бұрын

Most importantly, I never knew the "troll gland" is located in the butt!! For what it's worth, I will not use Temu, but I realize I have several items, guitar stuff included, that was made in China. I wish those American brands would bring their manufacturing back to the lower 48. I also feel that anyone who pushes "child labor" and is an American/American Company, should be exposed in a very public way. Nuff said, good video Gents.

@StupidGuitar 5 ай бұрын

Huh? Child labor is illegal in the US and none of the manufacturers use it. Weird flex

@robinsonrom 5 ай бұрын

After all that discussion, I still don't know if you should do the Temu video. I think it'd be cool to take their money and then just not promote them very well at all, but idk if it'd be worth the chance of someone not getting the bit and thinking they're a cool place to buy from.

@NO_ROBOT 5 ай бұрын

Do the TEMU Trash-Show ;)

@thejolt124 5 ай бұрын

I personally can't stand the app, just because of how the whole thing works. It's obnoxious and buggy and that alone completely turns me off. My wife has bought a few things through the app and they exist, they show up and have so far been as advertised, so there is that. We haven't had any issues with her card. I don't care if you take their money, I see no issue with the way you've been doing the videos so far and I trust you to make them honestly, the way you make all your videos. I know you can make something good and take their money.

@rickpapineau2704 5 ай бұрын

Did you ever figure out what that guitar neck was made of? Was it real wood or does it require a DNA test?

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

I’m pretty certain it’s strips of wood glued together

@maxmustardman298 5 ай бұрын

Def needs a taste test. If it tastes like zebra its all good

@obelusyt 4 ай бұрын

So temu is like a flea market? You'll find everything you don't need?

@60CycleHumcast 4 ай бұрын

Pretty much?

@lucathehunter08music63 5 ай бұрын

do it until they stop asking you

@gringogreen4719 5 ай бұрын

I bought one thing from Temu which was a Caline Old School Reverb for $36 with a $20 off of the sale when I download the app. It was fine but too much for the purchase on a day to day on the shipping. I'm happy with the pedal but found nothing else I was interested in. The ethics on the current world supply chain is so murky. I am pretty ambivalent about Temu and think it appeals to the lowest common denominator for mindless shoppers. You were thinking about TCU, Texas Christian University, Horned Toads.

@78tag 5 ай бұрын

Goodonya for bring up the message about TEMU - they are bad news.

@cyrfung 5 ай бұрын

Xingjiang forced labour is confirmed by the United Nations’ report. As someone from Hong Kong, another region in China heavily oppressed by the Chinese government, it hurts to hear how you are essentially saying “the other countries are also bad so let’s not take too much issue in China being even worse”. A lot of people from Hong Kong try hard to minimise support for Chinese businesses. Good on you for China not directly affecting your life. It would be better if you just say you don’t care about it instead of spending this much time justifying business with TEMU.

@paulz3073 4 ай бұрын

THIS ALL DAY LONG!

@niclastname 5 ай бұрын

I don't support Temu and I encourage everyone to not support them as well. I think you doing videos for them is fine as long as you're not actually promoting them though. Might be funny to just say in the video not to use Temu. Unless that's against their contract. Or shake your head no the whole time you're doing the ad spot haha. Maybe a quick video that comes out right before it that isn't sponsored by them saying not to support them and that their site and products suck lol. Make some patch cables spell out "temu sucks" off to the side and just never acknowledge it like it was an accident. 😂 Something like that would be hilarious.

@ericwarrington6650 4 ай бұрын

No that's actually just neurotic and kinda dumb

@niclastname 4 ай бұрын

@@ericwarrington6650 I don't think you know what neurotic means. That doesn't fit with being neurotic at all...

@ralphhathaway-coley5460 5 ай бұрын

Re Temu another way of looking at it ~ If you don't do another Temu vid, someone else will do it, it is not like they are having difficulty getting people to do them. So the question is rather, do you do an honest review like the last one, or let someone else do it who might not be so honest.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

that's one way to look at it. Im wondering what else I can even do though because theres so little guitar stuff there thats worth actually exploring.

@ralphhathaway-coley5460 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast You could take a sideways take on it. Go for something like and look at tools to cut and shape a guitar body and then finish it with paint wood dyes whatever they have, cheapo soldering irons etc. ....... just a thought as I take your point re choice.

@Fattypatty2x4 5 ай бұрын

I vote you, Take the money and get weird with it. Uses this as the thumbnail. Temu is trash, but I’m giving it all this away. Don’t forget to break the Temu guitar in the video and destroy all the stuff that you get in the video 😂😂😂

@frankr6053 5 ай бұрын

There’s a reason temu doesn’t sell in China. Your data is the product, not the crap you’re purchasing from them.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

Temu is a spinoff of another company that does exist in China. It's like the separation between Tiktok and Douyin, at least that's my understanding - steve

@epiphonium 5 ай бұрын

Holes that big and it weighs over 8 pounds without a strap button? And for later on I will never but anything from TEMU ( the company that right now has an ad for $1.89 pair of tennis shoes ) and send mr credit card infi to China ? No thanks.

@dc9662 5 ай бұрын

Well, one additional issue with Temu that didn't get brought up, is their massive contribution to global warming. From shipping, manufacturing and then the short lifespan of their products (good luck repairing something you get from them) - it's not a good brand to align your image with. As far as the terrible argument of "Well, your phone/tablet/computer was made in China too!" - tell me what electronic device isn't, and I'll get two. The difference with the devices that I buy, and Temu (and Apple products), is that I don't know if my purchases fund the Uyhgur genocide, and benefit from slavery, but Temu and Apple purchases do. I know you need to pay your bills, but let that weigh on you when you cash the check.

@grrnoise 5 ай бұрын

I appreciate Ryan not pretending that the US doesn't have many examples of equally horrible labor practices. There are also non-prison factories that violate labor ethics, they're just harder to report on.

@CharlesWillisBonsai 5 ай бұрын

There's a video tour of the Orange amps factory in China that looks like a nice place to work. Of course you're only seeing what they show (I've worked at a factory while it's being toured lol), but it did seem like a decent place. It didn't look like the kind of place they had to put suicide nets up outside the windows.

@SlaughteredDecay 5 ай бұрын

Exactly! And as he says, the constitution explicitly bans slave labour, EXCEPT in the case of prison labour. Horrible stuff.

@mikeapplegate5845 5 ай бұрын

@@SlaughteredDecayPrison is supposed to be punishment for a crime. Years ago, criminals were required to pay restitution to the victims of their crime. There is not one thing wrong with requiring them to work and help offset the cost to the taxpayers. Taxpayers are the ones being punished financially right now, because of the criminal. That's BS...PERIOD

@StupidGuitar 5 ай бұрын

The US isn’t anywhere near as bad as China regulation wise let alone government wise.

@StupidGuitar 5 ай бұрын

lol if you’re actually comparing US labor practices to China. So intellectually dishonest

@maxmustardman298 5 ай бұрын

Mal Wart

@BillyTheKidsGhost 5 ай бұрын

''Mall- ware'' We are turning into boomers.😄

@HeartandSoundTN 5 ай бұрын

Honestly like, China’s working conditions are in a lot of cases superior to the west. Let’s not pretend that folks in the US aren’t also working in what amounts to sweatshops for pennies without even half the benefits the rest of the world enjoys, including China. Prison labor is a huge part of production here too. China is a huge country and their logistics are highly efficient, their wages have continued to rise for decades, and they embrace automation to make life better for all. When they have a robot that can do something, no one loses their job, everyone’s job just gets easier for the same pay. What a concept! I don’t think it’s a paradise by any means but watching videos of people who actually live and work in China, it doesn’t really seem that bad. I don’t find anything wrong with TEMU outside of it’s terrible environmental impact.

@OakCityGamers 5 ай бұрын

36:33 dumber than that guitar?🎸 45:27 bacon 🥓 bread cheese eggs milk and Bacon.

@OakCityGamers 5 ай бұрын

I’d like to see a Data from Star Trek convention. Only Data cosplay allowed! 49:28 1:14:21 only weirdos comment. I should know. Can smell my own. Snif😅

@jamesonpace726 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't buy a pedal made in conjunction with you 2 for $6 jus sayin....

@300Foxes 5 ай бұрын

Mall-wear... That's overpriced clothing right? 😂

@chrisnealis4270 5 ай бұрын

TEMU kicked my dog 😐

@sagittated 5 ай бұрын

"Temu sells garbage" "You can get afford-a-board pedals there." Dude, you're so close. Edit to add: yes, we all have some stuff from China. That doesn't mean it's okay to get knock off crap underselling legitimate manufacturers, or that it's completely not a concern to buy cheap things from China when there's alternatives. Enjoy your Temu money. Hope it buys more cheap crap for you. ✌️

@sagittated 5 ай бұрын

The fact that people can't navigate modern life without buying Chinese goods isn't evidence that it's not a problem. It's warming to how things will increasingly be if we don't shop with some eye to alternatives. Especially when you know what you're buying is a rip off copy from the company who sells the real ones.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

I don't think most people who watch our videos are going to Temu because they think it's equal to the alternative. I think right now we have been benefitting from Temu sponsoring a couple videos far more than our audience is actually following through. Maybe I'm just really overestimating the viewers' ability to see through the facade of it all - steve

@dc9662 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast You also don't have to contribute to the problem. That's also an option.

@paulz3073 4 ай бұрын

There it is again. You simply taking any criticism and justifying it away. The fact is taking money supports the company EVEN IF YOU ARE TRASHING THEIR PRODUCTS. YOU - are an endorser. Plain and simple - that helps them out. Even if one child is used for slave labor - do you feel good about the money? STOP - don't bring other companies into it. Yes, they might. Or maybe not. But when you have Governments making specific warnings about the child labor and its a known problem in China, why contribute? Because other companies also are using that labor? Well you can do your part and stop advertising for Temu. Why, because I bought an Iphone? At least the scrutiny that Apple is under and the regulations that they 'try' to follow (and yes maybe not well) is different from Temu who just don't give a flying f. You are right, its a significant world problem. But you - YOU have a clear opportunity to walk away and demonstrate ethical and moral boundaries to your large audience. THAT does a lot. I get it, you want the money, you need the money. But if the cost isn't to you directly, I guess it doesn't matter. @@60CycleHumcast

@ewm416 5 ай бұрын

Yoga can make you taller

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

I don’t want to be taller.

@ewm416 5 ай бұрын

I propose you build on the interest in doom sounds for a wider array of high gain sounds and make a metal dedicated pedal board. It would be pedal to the metal!

@summersleepmusic 5 ай бұрын

Take the moneyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Internet high-fives don't pay the electric bill.

@summersleepmusic 5 ай бұрын

Use their budget to get the Gretsch White Falcon knockoff. Best case, you have a Falcon. Worst case, you have a free home defense guitar.

@dylangregory9330 5 ай бұрын

TAKE THEIR MONEY

@DE-GEN-ART 5 ай бұрын

prison labor in the US can be unpaid in certain situations but its not common. but if you have ever been to prison you woud know its not good to sit around and do nothing with your time so 95% of prisoners will happily work for free just to have something to do

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

most of those prisoners shouldn't even be there, they are harvested to be slave labor for a privatized prison system.

@CharlesWillisBonsai 5 ай бұрын

Just because the prisoners do it just to have something to do doesn't mean it's right for these companies to pay as little as they do.

@billmack753 5 ай бұрын

Freedom of speach dosnt look at whom built u'r device. 👀👀👀👍

@colinedmunds2238 5 ай бұрын

Theres no such thing as ethical consumption inder capitalism

@-processdrone- 5 ай бұрын

well.. okay. Can we get back to stupid meaningless stuff next week please ?

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

of course

@mhoop1 5 ай бұрын

NO! No you shouldn't be using Temu! This shouldn't even be a discussion? In the long run, what is your integrity worth? If you keep working with them, we'll know you have a price on your integrity. Also the 'I couldn't find the confirmation on the malware!" sounds exactly like "I did my own research on vaccines!" C'mon, dude. Integrity. That any of this is even a discussion for you? Unsubscribe. Which sucks because I really liked your content. But, since ~I~ have integrity that's the choice I'm making and hopefully you'll begin to understand what you're doing and what you're teaching your friends, colleagues and family. It just isn't worth it. And for crying out loud if you don't know how to pronounce the words on a world-wide news story of slavery...."yeah you guys looked real hard on this". It's pronounced "We-grr" for crying out loud

@78tag 5 ай бұрын

I really hope that these two are more responsible than they act on this chat. The guitar community could this Chinese monster take notice.

@terryenglish7132 5 ай бұрын

Not to be confused w White kids acting Black

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

Busted. I didn’t learn how to pronounce one thing, which I definitely could have with the device in my hand, therefore the rest of the conversation is invalid. Fully an oversight on my part I think this is the article Ryan was trying to summarize www.cnbc.com/2023/05/17/temu-accused-of-data-risks-amid-tiktok-pinduoduo-fears.html - steve

@davedavid7061 5 ай бұрын

cmon dude, the host cant even pronounce cotton

@mhoop1 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast Steve, you're both fantastically tone-deaf on this topic. You're doing it for the money. We all know you're doing it for the money. Stop trying to justify it. Those of us with integrity have already unsubscribed and written Ryan off. His videos are a dime a dozen on ytube, we were watching for him, and now that we know better who he is, we won't watch him anymore. It's the same sort of choice you should have made when deciding to take temu's cash. You sold out. Hopefully you research your sponsors more in the future and don't take on ones that are under investigation from Congress.

@smartmammal9926 5 ай бұрын

TEMU is evil

@sippinthefnordies 5 ай бұрын

temu sucks. f them and f their money, imo.

@78tag 5 ай бұрын

Absolutely - I've been trying to spread the word but the guitar community doesn't seem to want to look at it. That's a shame because this is important.

@Dogdickdale 5 ай бұрын

@@78tagyour playlist is full of right wing propaganda. You literally believe everything they tell you on Fox. I’ll bet you think windmills kill whales and Jewish space lasers are going to get you. You’re in a cult and I hope you wake up.

@Draw54 5 ай бұрын

Big fan of the channel and this pod has so much potential but instead we get and hour of talking about a unique reverb listing when all the main points of it were summed up in the first 5 min. The remaining time is listening to the other guy wine about his life and why he needed a new mouse?, really?

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

We’ve been doing the podcast this way since 2014.

@Draw54 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast first time watching the pod aside from clips

@orion777ben 5 ай бұрын

The Chinese people are great but they didn't invent surf!

@davedavid7061 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, Charley don't surf

@Iodine74 5 ай бұрын

Wonder if they have any surfable coast? Can’t say I ever remember hearing about it. Then again. Not like I’ve been paying attention since 88.

@60CycleHumcast 5 ай бұрын

Turns out they do: www.surfline.com/surf-news/way-beyond-hainan/63875 - steve

@Iodine74 5 ай бұрын

@@60CycleHumcast Wow beautiful break. Was just a random thought I had when reading the comments and didn't have time to Google. But that's cool to know.