Cubs want to win 'the hipster way' but are failing | Bernstein & Holmes

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670 The Score

7 күн бұрын

After the Cubs coughed up another lead in the ninth inning in a loss to the Giants on Monday, Dan Bernstein and Laurence Holmes questioned their roster construction strategy. "The Cubs want to win, but they kind of want to do it in a cute way," Holmes says.
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@What_am_I_a_mirage
@What_am_I_a_mirage 5 күн бұрын
Owner is a joke. No closer. No bashers. No way David ross could have been this bad. Wasted money on counsel. And brewers are in first. Brutal.
@MRoss623
@MRoss623 4 күн бұрын
Was just gonna say the fact Milwaukee is in first is a big indictment on Counsell
@andrewb8074
@andrewb8074 5 күн бұрын
Holmes summing it up perfectly as usual. This team has the resources to behave like a big money major market team, because that's exactly what they are. Why are they LARPing as something else? Reminds me of that scene in Swingers: "You're like a big bear with claws, with fangs...you got these claws and you're staring at these claws and you're thinking to yourself, 'How am I supposed to kill this bunny?'"
@edwardwilliams3185
@edwardwilliams3185 5 күн бұрын
'Soft tossing nibblers' sounds like a British insult.
@stevethomas5467
@stevethomas5467 5 күн бұрын
The Cubs are atrocious 😫
@astrosjer822
@astrosjer822 5 күн бұрын
Cubs outsmart themselves. They try to outsmart others but instead outsmart themselves:
@Tgrirch
@Tgrirch 5 күн бұрын
Outdumb themselves
@carloschristanio4709
@carloschristanio4709 5 күн бұрын
The cubs are trying to win? The stands are filled and the beer flows regardless of team performance
@LookingThroughOsLense
@LookingThroughOsLense 5 күн бұрын
Exactly the fans don't boo don't do nothing they just go and give support. I never get it.
@carloschristanio4709
@carloschristanio4709 4 күн бұрын
@LookingThroughOsLense it's called stokholm syndrome
@thangyselfmade7028
@thangyselfmade7028 2 күн бұрын
I think those ppl just want to party same with the bulls lol
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 5 күн бұрын
It's a lifeless team with no heart or passion. They are just collecting a paycheck.
@carloschristanio4709
@carloschristanio4709 5 күн бұрын
The cubs needed bullpen and the corners infielder at the end of the last season. Low energy jed didn't fix it. Failure should have consequences, fire Jed!
@WhatRYouAimingAt
@WhatRYouAimingAt 3 күн бұрын
Trump 2024 🎉
@carloschristanio4709
@carloschristanio4709 3 күн бұрын
Make america great again! Keep your chicago out of my illinios
@nigelward5494
@nigelward5494 5 күн бұрын
They don't want to win.
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
Even as a brewers fan, Bernstein and Holmes are still the best analysis you can get. Enjoy these guys while we can.
@mcnell311
@mcnell311 5 күн бұрын
The Cubs payroll is 116m higher than the Brewers this season. Jed has just spent poorly and our minor leagues have not provided much the past few seasons
@jccampos7197
@jccampos7197 5 күн бұрын
It’s all due to the Ricketts, they’re not about putting the best product on the field, they want to line their pockets. They aren’t the type to take those risks. They won’t go for tier 1 talent cause it costs to much. I hated that they bought the team because I knew this was coming. Put it on the ricketts, it’s the absolute answer.
@danieljohnson5595
@danieljohnson5595 2 күн бұрын
The Soft-Tossing Nibblers were an early 2000s swing revival band
@unknown-ng9yl
@unknown-ng9yl 4 күн бұрын
Counsell=uninspiring.
@aaronbrewer1742
@aaronbrewer1742 5 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how Lawrence is trying to explain his disdain for the cubs method of operation and somebody said but records sound better. I thought Lawrence was going to have to cut a mfer.
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
Just ask him about the White Sox or bears stadium plans. That's when he'll get pissed
@NickPortlow
@NickPortlow 4 күн бұрын
8:35 Thank you for keeping that alive, Dan! 😂🤣😭
@kevintmerk
@kevintmerk 4 күн бұрын
Cubs have a very good farm system….if we receive offers for some of the underperforming guys this year….sell them. We have way too many holes to be serious contenders. BP is possibly the worst in the majors.
@BruceStetson-jc3li
@BruceStetson-jc3li 4 күн бұрын
Good luck with that superstar Council guy
@LuisTorres-dh6my
@LuisTorres-dh6my 4 күн бұрын
All that money for Craig counsell! Milwaukee is enjoying this! 😂
@dancasey9660
@dancasey9660 4 күн бұрын
Tried the Marquee Network. They were in 1st place or at least close. About a month later, the bottom fell out. It's not worth the $20/month to watch this struggling team.
@nicestoryproductions4062
@nicestoryproductions4062 5 күн бұрын
Hoyer is the cancer of the team.. until he gets booted, this is what we will get for years to come.
@aronscott9698
@aronscott9698 4 күн бұрын
Facts
@patrickroose5132
@patrickroose5132 4 күн бұрын
Dear Craig Counsel: The fact that Suzuki still has a job after dropping that ball in Atlanta last year is mind boggling to me (trade him). Don’t ever bring Smyly in to close a game in the 9th. Please pinch hit for Amaya in the 8th & 9th, especially with RISP (use Bote). Do that and you might actually win a game.
@james_library
@james_library 4 күн бұрын
Cards on the table, I'm a Brewers fan. From the outside looking in, the Cubbies have some solid household name talent, but they're lacking depth. Counsell wasn't going to turn this team around on a dime. They need to look seriously at how they develop these players. The Brewers have been consistently good these last few years because in the minors, they develop these pitchers, and whenever one leaves, another one can come up. I know the argument that the Cubs could buy their way to the division but let's be honest, where we're they going to go this last free agent class? All the big names are either not producing now or there was no way they were going to leave their existing team. The question of whether this core of players can win it is interesting. Maybe if they can get bullpen help but there's no way they're going to find enough arms mid season to do it. The bats are also very inconsistent, which I'm noticing has been a strange pattern with Counsell now over the last few years. The Cubs will get back to being good eventually but by that time the rest of the division could be just as good. The Reds have so much talent but can't get out of their own way. The Brewers have enough young talent and can seem to pull pitchers out of thin air in their farm system. The Cardinals are (unfortunately) starting to get their stuff together. And the Pirates have some great talent coming up especially at the front of their rotation. Itll be interesting to see what the Cubs do over the next off-season. Thanks for the great discussion guys.
@jrm2383
@jrm2383 5 күн бұрын
They thought Counsell would add 10 wins
@andrewb8074
@andrewb8074 5 күн бұрын
Whilst totally ignoring that the roster was overachieving in a way that any statistician would say was unsustainable. And the way the wheels fell off late last season should have made that clear to them.
@mizer9510
@mizer9510 5 күн бұрын
Counsell is a terrible manager
@chicagodude8888
@chicagodude8888 2 күн бұрын
The 10 WAR manager.
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
A bycracky drop!!!
@woodworkingoutdoorsman1660
@woodworkingoutdoorsman1660 4 күн бұрын
I guess I dont get that they could buy the division when they spent 107 mil more than milwaukee and 50 mil more than the cards
@jrm78
@jrm78 4 күн бұрын
Can't even count on getting Vlad Jr since he's been openly telling the Yankees to make an offer and take him aboard
@richcibelli1445
@richcibelli1445 5 күн бұрын
Why no one gets fired or no trades is crazy to me. Fans need to stay home and let the team miss some dollars. Then and Then only will a change takes place.
@niren4819
@niren4819 5 күн бұрын
Front offices love to prove they are smarter than the others by doing something different than the obvious thing 3 thumpers 3 SPs that can go 7+ IP 3-4 hammers in the pen that demoralize an opponent from thinking they can come back
@finkomsky
@finkomsky 21 сағат бұрын
Busch and imanaga showing to be good acquisitions and they have good talent coming through Starting rotation looks good and deep Problem is happ hoerner dansby Amaya morel That core needs to be broken up We need to sell them off Bring in shaw canario alcantara and Moises let them play They can’t be any worse than those 5 batting 200
@nopnj
@nopnj 5 күн бұрын
Counsel tends to over manage IMHO.
@Mark-ph5nh
@Mark-ph5nh 5 күн бұрын
We the fans do not matter to the owners as long as people come a d watch a sold out game all the time.
@famguy218
@famguy218 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks for calling them out. There’s no hope anymore for the Cubs, 11.5 behind a team that has a $130 million payroll. Ricketts spends but not enough, but Jed is the worst pobo. He literally does nothing right
@Stufftowatch21
@Stufftowatch21 4 күн бұрын
They need to change this plan , it’s not WORKING. Ricketts if you want to sell us the Marquee network, go to games put on a damn strong contender team. They are wasting quality time of Belli , Shota , Steele , Seiya . They have some pieces of the puzzle. And what makes anyone think next season that the Cubs will draw high profile FAs . This is a very frustrating season 😡
@mitchellwood4133
@mitchellwood4133 4 күн бұрын
Dan has a technocratic view that the "smart" people will eventually suceed in management. Because he sees some of himself in jed he refuses to critique him. Its "the cubs plan" not jeds plan.
@cnj420
@cnj420 3 күн бұрын
This analysis makes me feel better about the Cubs. Y'all sound like middle aged nerds.
@marzix427
@marzix427 5 күн бұрын
The Cubs should have traded for Alonso in the off-season, signed Ryne Stanek and Neris or David Robertson and traded for a guy like Reed Garrett who strikes a million people out, and signed JD Martinez. They gave big deals to 4th outfielder Happ, the 4th best shortstop on the market as the 4th best SS in the game, which he is not, and then stuck with Hendricks way too long relying on soft tossing guys
@ciceromobster
@ciceromobster 5 күн бұрын
Love able losers are back. Another 100 years
@SMOOTHJESÚS
@SMOOTHJESÚS 5 күн бұрын
Kept Jed after Theo left before he got fired I hate the Cubs man. F Theo. F Jed.
@billpatterson9361
@billpatterson9361 4 күн бұрын
Let's not forget. Jed Hoyer said the day after the 2022 season ended, their goal was to go after power arms. Lmao! What happened? Dude is a straight up liar and is never held accountable! How's that "smart spending" going? 😂🤦‍♂️
@MasterZhao
@MasterZhao 4 күн бұрын
The team as a whole doesn't hit well and their approach in most clutch situations is terrible. There has been a lot of guessing at the plate, even in hitter's counts, which has resulted more times than not in terrible end results. If the batter is ahead 3-0 or 3-1, you should be locked onto anything of velocity in the zone, not be surprised by a fastball right down the middle. If there is a runner at third with less than 2 outs, contact should be the priority, not pulling the ball out of the park. If a pitcher has just thrown 8 straight bad ones and walked the previous 2 hitters, the next batter shouldn't be swinging at the first pitch, make him throw you a strike. All of that, plus the bullpen being like a colander trying to hold water has been the big problem.
@GOMF-eq4qc
@GOMF-eq4qc 5 күн бұрын
Ross got more out of his guys and kept morale high. The team played exciting baseball by running, taking extra bases and putting pressure on defenses. Counsell is a cancer. He sits chewing seeds like a cross between a cow chewing its cud and a cigar store Indian. He has no fire or ability to motivate a team. The bullpen and lack of free agents is on Jed, as is thinking Counsell is a good manager. He is a station to station guy with no leadership skills who sits back waiting for homers to come when the team was built to run and keeps bringing guys out of the pen on a daily basis who can’t find the strike zone with a map and radar and expecting something to be different. Jed wanted a yes man and now we are stuck with the SOB for five years. I would rather go to the park down the street and watch five year olds play T ball than watching this, boring, lifeless, and leaderless disaster.
@darwinblinks
@darwinblinks 5 күн бұрын
Loveable Losers Forever
@Xxxomar880
@Xxxomar880 4 күн бұрын
So embarrassing tom ricketts spending money on the wrong players
@RodneyHennings
@RodneyHennings 4 күн бұрын
They have none!!
@Tgrirch
@Tgrirch 5 күн бұрын
For the sake of ben browns career hopefully he gets traded. This team will destroy his arm
@bonesjackson81
@bonesjackson81 5 күн бұрын
Metallica lost album. Trade Em All.
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
Ripping the boundaries Lunacy has found me Cannot stop the cubbie-ing!
@Principal_Meyers
@Principal_Meyers 5 күн бұрын
This team has become a laughing stock
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
As opposed to a crying bond
@youarethecreator1
@youarethecreator1 4 күн бұрын
Fire Jed Hoyer.
@cherylrudon8399
@cherylrudon8399 3 күн бұрын
Get rid of jeb hoyer and Craig council
@joekaiker1442
@joekaiker1442 5 күн бұрын
Hoyer needs to be fired immediately if not sooner!! The manager is a potted plant. No passion! Your team sucks and he shows no emotion. Get mad!! Loyal Cubs fans played again!!
@TheRocker27
@TheRocker27 5 күн бұрын
Who b carin? Wirlin verlin breakdancer froms Crestwood IL do. He b doin dat cubbies slides down dances. Dis b he breakdancein partner Staleypaul. #2 Kiss 🍼🧃🕺🌪️😂🤣
@aarronvanburen8612
@aarronvanburen8612 4 күн бұрын
Is this West side pimp??
@TheRocker27
@TheRocker27 4 күн бұрын
@@aarronvanburen8612 der b nutin hips buots dos cubbies 🛸
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