690 SMC-R // Best Mod (do this first)

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3 жыл бұрын

Overview and install of the Rade Garage small air box and storage kit on my 2021 KTM 690 SMC-R.
I wish I had done this first. Would have made the install of the Wings Exhaust and Power Commander much simpler.
If you are interested in this kit you can find it here (not sponsored/ no affiliation):
www.radegarage.com/parts-us/k...
Thanks for watching!!
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@elvispusley3515 2 жыл бұрын

The SAS delete removes the pair valve which injects air in the exhaust stroke for emissions like an egr. It helps more than you know for cooling exhaust when deleted.

@DustyBiker 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. On the fence over a tank or the storage. Thanks for sharing

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

I have a touring bike as well which I use for longer rides, so didn't feel I needed the tank. The storage is super handy. I hate riding with a backpack and the storage is pretty big. Water bottle, wallet, rain shell and some snacks. I can also through a few small pieces of camera gear in there. I am happy with the storage.

@DustyBiker 2 жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto I guess if you wanted you could also toss a 1L MSR fuel bottle in there as well. I have an Africa Twin for long hauls, but in northern Canada gas stops are few and far.

@ReevyMotovlogs 3 жыл бұрын

Great video dude 😁

@CTPSupermoto 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Just getting started. Hopefully get better at it. Your channel is great for supermoto resources. Need to watch your wheelie video a few more times. Mine are still pretty weak.

@elvispusley3515 2 жыл бұрын

The stock is partially for sound proofing and a larger volume of clean air to draw from. How loud is the new filter under hard accel??

@Tom-we3lh Жыл бұрын

Hi man, great video I would like to put the same thing on my 701 supermoto 2021 but I can't find the twinair and the thing to plug in ( sorry for my English im French) :) thank you

@tujay2jz7 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if the stock box gives you more low end torque

@emperorkhan9941 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, this was very helpful. The Q for us that don't know how to do this, do this without anyone's help? Is there a step by step way someone can show us? Thanks in advance. Kind regards.

@trbgeneralconstruction555 Жыл бұрын

I wonder how does this air ox compare to the Rottweiler air box other then the price difference

@Senna-xi1gr Жыл бұрын

Love to do this to mine. Where can I buy all the gear? Thanks.

@CodyMcDonald89 3 жыл бұрын

Nice my first must upgrade was a seat concept xl seat which made a HUGE difference. But unfortunately my engine has failed with only 800 miles on it and it’s at the dealer where I purchased and hoping they don’t void warranty because I did the oil change but that shouldn’t have made any difference.

@CTPSupermoto 3 жыл бұрын

Oh no! Sorry to hear that. Agreed - Doing your own oil change should have no impact. Keep us posted. I have a seat concepts on order but they are running 10-12 weeks lead time. Should make longer rides better. Although I don’t hate the stock seat as much as everyone seems to.

@CodyMcDonald89 3 жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto I did because I’m a big guy 250lb lol

@austinkaufman9402 2 жыл бұрын

@@CodyMcDonald89 what happened to the engine?

@CodyMcDonald89 2 жыл бұрын

@@austinkaufman9402 the technician said it spun a rod bearing. So has to get a whole new engine. Now I’m nervous because it took them over 5 months and I just got back last month I have 425miles on it. And now it’s winter time but I think I’m going to order the oil and go ahead and change it while it sits until spring

@dasauto44 8 ай бұрын

The only informative video i have ever seen on a 690. I've seen a sh1t ton of videos.

@RonnieMX 2 жыл бұрын

I bet the noise drives you nuts more than the muffler even. The stock air box stops induction noise which to the rider can be noisier than the muffler. Is that what you found?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

TBH - I ride with ear plugs and don't notice the noise to be bothersome.

@frostygonz 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I’m stuck between getting the Rade intake or the Rottweiler intake. Both offer extra storage solutions. Any recommendations?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Depends on how much you will use the storage. The Rottweiler adds a soft bag whereas the Rade is a hard shell which is much larger. I put camera gear in mine so like the added protection. Both companies in my experience are great. The Rottweiler intake is a work of art. So if that’s important to you might be the way to go.

@geneshaw1234 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Rottweiler on my Super Duke and Rade Garage on my 690. From my experience Rottweiler is a more premium solution with more responsive support. Support questions sent Rottweiler are answer the same business day. Rade Garage is much slower in getting back to you. However the Rade Garage setup you get more storage space and easier filter cleaning. At the end of the day both are great options so you can't really make a wrong decision.

@screendoc600 2 жыл бұрын

How did the bike sound with rade intake over stock? Any better throttle response? Thanks!

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t notice any difference to the sound. Although I added the wings exhaust first and it’s pretty loud so that may drown out any sound improvement. Performance gains after the rade intake were noticeable but not dramatic. Wings + PCV was a huge jump in power (based on feel).

@giovannicolligc Жыл бұрын

Hey man, I know you posted a while back but still hoping to get a response.. thanks a lot in advance!! I am torn on this step, I have a 701 enduro from 2020 (EURO4) with an Akrapovic slip on. It has been like this from day 1 (first owner bought it, put the exhaust, sold it to me after 1000km). No issues for now but I don't have much power down low, just my perception I probably need to test another 701. I just mounted a rotweiler fuel dongle and di not notice any increase in power or torque. Do you think it is safe to but this airbox to my bike? Do I need a power commander or dyno? Thanks a lot, G

@CTPSupermoto Жыл бұрын

I would add a power commander. They are pretty affordable and definitely improve performance. If you buy it from Rottweiler they will put a tune on it for you. Dyno tune is the best option.

@eddymerrr 3 жыл бұрын

Hi bro, have you feel a problem with the sand/dirt or the power since you modified it?

@CTPSupermoto 3 жыл бұрын

Power is way up after the mods - exhaust and intake. As far as sand/dirt - do you mean getting into the engine? If so, that shouldn’t be a problem. I have run twin air filters on other bikes with no problem. If you mean performance in the sand/dirt - I only ride the SMC R on the street. Thanks for watching.

@neilweston2710 2 жыл бұрын

This is great info. Is there a con to removing the SAS canister? You also had to include a fuel dongle with the power commander right? Thanks

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

I suppose there might be some marginal environmental impacts of removing the sas canister. From my understanding there is no real benefit other than asthetics either. Yes - fuel dongle is required to ensure the closed loop system doesn’t return the power commander values back to stock. I purchased my PCV from Rottweiler and they include the dongle for free. Others have commented that this system will not work on the European models. Although I can’t confirm that.

@bennyblockx5047 3 ай бұрын

Nice

@geneshaw1234 2 жыл бұрын

What made you go with the Rade Garage air box over the Rottweiler air box? I am trying to decide myself. The lower price and extra space that you get with Rade is very nice. However the Rottweiler seems a bit nicer made product. I also have experience with the Rottweiler as I have it on my other bike. Does the Twin Air Filters come pre oiled and ready to go or is there prep involved like the Rottweiler? Thanks!

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

It was a tough call. The rottweiler piece looks amazing! The Rade garage could almost be stock with the way its put together - but its under the seat anyway. I wanted the storage space and the cheaper price sold me. The twin air filters are also much more common (cheaper) for replacement. The Twin Air filters are pre-oiled and the kit comes with two. The are washable and once washed would be the same process as the rottweiler filter. The oiling process is easy - just wear gloves.

@geneshaw1234 2 жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto That’s pretty much the same conclusion I have come to as well. Thanks for replying!

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t think you will be disappointed with the Rade kit. It’s well put together and easy to install - after you wrestle the stock air box out.

@geneshaw1234 2 жыл бұрын

Just a follow up I finally got my 2022 690 in (US Spec) and went with the Rade Garage Air Intake. Just did the install and it is different than what is shown here. The setup now uses a different Twin Air filter with a rubber plug in the middle of the filter. There is a metal internal frame that you put inside of the filter and then a big screw pinches the filter down on to the air box. I am guessing this is an update to their design. The instructions haven't been updated so I reached out to them to make sure I got the correct kit.

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Thats interesting. I found that the storage box didn't quite line up with the frame on mine. Not a big issue, but wonder if the kit I received was for the previous model. I also asked them about that and they said mine was the correct kit...

@craighoffman6876 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! Your bike looks great. All that EZ access extra storage post airbox removal is sweet indeed. Bonus, you can have warmed by the engine heat lunches trailside if you wrap a sammich in tin foil in there! For those with the stock airbox, pulling the battery and putting a little Windex on the boot makes re-installing it much easier, to the point where is only a 3.5 out of 10 on my personal logarithmic pain in the ass scale. It is more than worth the nominal extra effort to pull the battery, as you are right, putting the stock airbox back in is otherwise a nightmare with the battery in the way. How is the intake noise with the airbox mod when under throttle? That is what I am most concerned about. Have owned bikes with airbox deletes in the past and didn't like the "bicycle card in the spokes" intake honk they made under throttle. Currently have a '10 slant engine Husaberg FE 450 which has a similar no airbox setup from the factory, it can be pretty annoying intake sound wise at lower RPM with some throttle to it, but once it is revved and on the cam, the intake sound is pretty glorious too. The other concern I have with the airbox replacement mod is removing the airbox's ability to isolate the intake stream from really hot air coming off the engine and radiator under slow trail riding conditions as I also have an Enduro and it sees slow tuff sstuff single track type riding off road use at times - I ride it like a dirt bike and sometimes forget it weighs well over 300 pounds. Currently running a Yosh can, and like you also the Rottweiler fueling dongle/SAS & cannister eliminators. Running a twin air oiled foam panel filter in the stock airbox. The other "engine mod" is a KTM 80/85C (185F) fan thermo switch, I highly recommend that as the stock switch comes on at 102C (215F) which is just stupid hot. AOMC has the lower temp fan switch. The charging system is robust and running the fan more is not an issue. As luck would have it, my Rottweiler mapped Power Commander is in the mail as I write this 😁 Have run PCs or had ECU flashes in past machines and always enjoyed the results. Will consider the airbox mod, but I want to see how she runs with the PC mapped for the stock airbox and can configuration. It sure sounds great with the can on it, and even without the PC optimization (the fueling dongle O2 sensor eliminator richens it up and really helps part throttle response) the bike already has loads of power. The extra storage sure looks nice though...

@ridelikekrum7707 2 жыл бұрын

Im looking at getting a 690 in the next couple months. I really like the idea of extra storage. What scares me is hooking the laptop up for I guess mapping. If I just did the airbox and a slipon, is the computor maping required? (I suck at anything todo with a computor)Thanks

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Slipon is usually ok without fuel management, but opening the airbox you will need to. If you purchase the slipon and a power commander from Rottweiler Performance they will load a suitable map on it for you for free. So get your aribox from Rade, and rest from Rottweiler. I have no affiliation with them, but have been really impressed with their service. Or - you get get a dyno shop to tune it for you (best option but more expensive). Or - ask a friend to help you out.

@trbgeneralconstruction555 Жыл бұрын

How much was this add on ?

@Andriesdemotorrijder Жыл бұрын

Hey man, Question: I'm about to buy myself this bike but i was wondering did you only get the wings end silincer or the whole exhaust system from front to back. Thanks for the helpful video!

@CTPSupermoto Жыл бұрын

I just got the slip on. The 690 has the catalytic converter in the muffler, so I didn’t see a huge benefit to getting a new header. I might do at some point but that’s just esthetics

@chadwageman Жыл бұрын

I ended up buying the storage compartment for my KTM 690 SMC R 2019. I just got it and have taken apart my bike to get it fitted in. When I took the OEM airbox out I noticed it has two air hoses coming out. I see it has included the hose for the left side of the bike but there is also a hose coming out of the right side of the bike from the airbox. I do not see instructions on what to do with this hose for the right side. Also, the new airbox I was sent has a cage that I need to assemble myself and I'm having a hard time putting it together. Can you send me instructions on how to assemble the airbox cage? Thank you.

@ChonyPata 2 жыл бұрын

This works on the husqvarna 701 2020?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Carlos, thanks for watching. Rade Garage sells a kit for your Husky. My understanding is that they are the same regardless.

@immobilierpeltier5058 Жыл бұрын

Salut , le changement du silencieux d'échappement et l'ouverture de la boite a aire nécessite t'il une nouvelle cartographie ?

@CTPSupermoto Жыл бұрын

Salut! Pardonnez moi. Mon francais c’est ne pas bon. Oui c’est necessaire

@CTPSupermoto Жыл бұрын

J’ai un Power Commander V pour la cartographie

@immobilierpeltier5058 Жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto Thanks =)

@4sstylz Жыл бұрын

@@immobilierpeltier5058 Les moteurs Euro 5 tournent d'origine pauvre sur les LC4. Si tu augmente le débit d'air via une admission différente, alors le problème sera pire. C'est pourquoi il est conseillé de faire une carto. Pour l'échappement par contre… pas besoin.

@k9frederic535 Жыл бұрын

Si tu as une 2021, la cartographie semble encryptée et un concessionaire ne sait installer que des cartos préparés par KTM. un PC et dongle semble inefficace. Dixit mon concess KTM

@sandmasher 2 жыл бұрын

Could you put a link to all the parts?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Link to the race garage kit is in the video description. The SAS delete you can find here: www.rottweilerperformance.com/sas-canister-removal-kit-husky-701-2017-ktm-690-enduro-smc-r-2019/ Any other links let me know and I’ll post.

@franckbrunie4759 10 ай бұрын

You forgot to say that replacing the air box by the Rade garage one makes the bike much more noisy

@boofstien2 3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2021 euro 5 smc r. I did the rade garage mod as you did. It had significant flat spots in torque as a result of the change. I had a power commander and fuel dongle but I couldn't solve the issue so went back to the stock airbox. Euro 5 is such a pain as the ecu corrects back to lean after a few miles with mods. I wish Id have gone for a 2020 euro 4 model where I could mod without it keep resetting.

@CTPSupermoto 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Would have thought the North American bikes would have been the same. I just checked Rottweiler's website and they reference the issue you are having on their product page for the Euro 5 bikes. They are good people, perhaps you can give them a call and see if they have a solution (or if they have one in the works - for offroad purposes only of course).

@boofstien2 3 жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto thanks my friend, your reply is appreciated. I will drop them a line

@CTPSupermoto 3 жыл бұрын

Anytime - happy to help if I can. Let me know what you find out!

@gialto1 3 жыл бұрын

On euro 5 models PC are useless in the closed loop. The only fuel dongle working is the one put between the lambda sensor and the ECU

@boofstien2 3 жыл бұрын

@@gialto1 thats the dongle I had but the ecu got wise to the mods and leaned it all out again

@qazeqaz 2 жыл бұрын

This or the Rottweiler? Thoughts?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

For me the rade. I like the storage and the fact that you can get twin air filters anywhere. The Rottweiler is a work of art and they are top notch on customer service.

@GEARZM 2 жыл бұрын

What’s your hp?

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Great question! Not sure. The dyno shop near me is not my favourite place to spend money. I do want to get a custom tune at some point. Until then I can say it’s definitely more than stock. But how much more I don’t know.

@GEARZM 2 жыл бұрын

@@CTPSupermoto well if you ever find out let me know i have the same bike but am wanting around 90hp

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Will do. Based on what I have done 90hp seems unlikely - but now you definitely have me interested in determining exactly how much I have gained.

@cesarroman9976 2 жыл бұрын

If you stand in front of the camera you can’t see anything.

@elvispusley3515 2 жыл бұрын

I have had PC5 on a 2022 CRF450 RL and it was trrrible below 20% throttle. I found out why the ecu will not let it change anything below that %. I will not put a PC on my 2019SMCR. NO WAY. I run an Arrow race exhaust and fuel dongle and stock airbox. It has plenty of power in mod2 with abs and tc off. It’s funny how KtM has a lot of money in R&D yet people think they no better with lil to no R&D. Buy a SuperDuke if you need more power. More $ than cents comes to mind.

@4sstylz Жыл бұрын

You're comparing two different ECU. They work differently, that's a nonsense. Yes KTM do a lot of R&D… to be able to register their engine with the EURO5 label and pass emissions tests. That's why the bike run poor on a big part of the curve. Especially on open loop when the lambda is used (idling, low RPM, and same speed for a long time). The LC4 have now less performance than the 2016 version because of this. It's not to get some additionnal 5hp that people chose to map their LC4, but just to get a better curve, and it's very important to maximize the mid revs torque. If you're happy with the actual level of performance of your engine, then don't change anything. But people love to be able to have more torque to pop wheelies with higher gears.

@Kris-iw2pd 2 жыл бұрын

Now you have less protection especially from water .....sorry.

@CTPSupermoto 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps. Although I had a similar set up on a dual sport bike ridden in wet, dust, mud and dirt with no issues. This setup requires more maintenance - cleaning filter and re-oiling. With my riding style on the SMC-R I don't foresee issues (knock on wood). I ride it predominantly in fair weather and given the easy access will be cleaning and oiling regularly. It's a very fair point though and should be considered by anyone going with this setup. Thanks for watching and your comment.

@dinosaur4151 2 жыл бұрын

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@TheSummit396 Жыл бұрын

you will suck in tons of water with this system will you not?

@CTPSupermoto Жыл бұрын

It’s under the seat so not a huge issue with water ingress. I am riding it strictly on the street and not in heavy rain. So not a concern for me. But yes, higher chance of water ingress compared to the stock air box.