7 KPOP Idols Who Deserve JUSTICE

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KOOKIELIT

Жыл бұрын

let's talk about kpop idols who have owned up to their actions and suffered the consequences but now it’s time for them to receive justice - wayv lucas, blackpink jennie, kim garam, etc. stay tuned and subscribe to kookielit for more kpop news and interesting videos about idols.
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@kookielit
@kookielit Жыл бұрын
CORRECTION: - at 03:27 there's a clip of seungmin, not woojin. it was an accident and our mistake. we're sorry about that!💕
@vivi_isle_o.o
@vivi_isle_o.o Жыл бұрын
now ppl will bring that up evry now and then like giselle's controversy 💀
@_animee_
@_animee_ Жыл бұрын
@@socks4everyone dame
@warrior6673
@warrior6673 Жыл бұрын
it's ok. people make mistakes too. why to criticize you for that too?
@Taiichi1314
@Taiichi1314 Жыл бұрын
You beat me to it lmao
@myaespauniverse2495
@myaespauniverse2495 Жыл бұрын
@@warrior6673 people want to her to delete her channel.
@zacharikurbah6358
@zacharikurbah6358 Жыл бұрын
Our girl Soojin deserves the justice she needs, these so called fans of other artists should be ashamed of themselves, they need to leave idols alone, they're human beings too
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Fr. I don't think some kpop stans get how much they go through. They just automatically assume shit, and it's so annoying. Istg they just judge as soon as they get the chance to without even knowing much about the idol
@GabsArrearhe13
@GabsArrearhe13 Жыл бұрын
She is my bias :( she still my bias and I miss her with all my heart, my wallpaper is her, the photocard of my phone is Soojin TT TT :(
@mnbee1
@mnbee1 Жыл бұрын
These people hate bullying but that's what they are exactly doing on the internet. I don't condone bullying please don't get me wrong but I really hate this cancel culture in K industry. I bet those people are not even fans of these idols and don't even care for the group.
@gemmameidia8438
@gemmameidia8438 Жыл бұрын
IKR!! I miss soojin ssooo much :( I will love Idle forever but, if soojin could comeback then it would be perfect
@songirrafe.923
@songirrafe.923 Жыл бұрын
(6)I-dle 4ever ;(
@kaylagarner5294
@kaylagarner5294 Жыл бұрын
Depending on the scandal, I really don’t understand why most of these idols are being COMPLETELY cancelled. Like I know most of the people who are cancelling these idols are at least 20 and under….and I know these people are making mistakes in their lives. But because they’re not in the limelight their lives aren’t ruined like these idols. It completely blows my mind.
@Yun_Aishiwaihan
@Yun_Aishiwaihan Жыл бұрын
Imagine training several years to debut, then your dream comes true and you are so excited and happy. But then out of nowhere, your career ended just because of a rumor.
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, that is horrible 😭
@nabitrfly_
@nabitrfly_ Жыл бұрын
Imagine training for years just to get hate and forced to leave
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Fr that's just sad. Like they missed their whole childhood just for what seems like the world to just hate on you. I'd honestly just leave and become a soloist. 🤷‍♀️
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
I hope so much that Garam will debut under another company or another group
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
@@gabthemultistan6695 I think she'd be better off as a soloist actually lol. She looks good on her own. If she does stay in the kpop industry I can see her being a soloist pretty clearly 💗
@honeymilk3815
@honeymilk3815 Жыл бұрын
Woojin and Lucas and soojin are one of the strongest people I've seen. I dread to imagine where I would be of they weren't so strong. The amount of hate and d3ath thr3@ts they got , just makes me so sick, I myself cried for them imagine how much THEY hurt. Especially woojin, the people who he thought would cheer him on threw him off the cliff cause istg it was only majority of the stays that hated on him.
@jensss3186
@jensss3186 Жыл бұрын
True 🙌 btw i'll like to add garam too the fact that she is still young but went through lot of global hate is insane..
@himaririku9254
@himaririku9254 Жыл бұрын
G DRAGON IS KING ,,,
@alicegilelach6056
@alicegilelach6056 Жыл бұрын
@@jensss3186 what she went through is unthinkable ☹️ the girl is 16! Whatever went down between her and the other kids back when they were in (what, second grade?) I can’t believe grown people think it’s normal to cyber bully a 16 year old girl.
@kangtaehyunslego
@kangtaehyunslego Жыл бұрын
Garam also
@yassifiedmark127
@yassifiedmark127 Жыл бұрын
''My dream lasted 2 weeks, but I enjoyed every moment of it'' -Kim Garam
@aestheticcat8976
@aestheticcat8976 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to keep on saying, some fans should be very ashamed of themselves in Garam's case because it started to get increasingly disturbing. It went from sending her d*ath threats, to wishing she would end her own life, threatening to attack her in public, celebrating her downfall, posting disturbingly perverted things about her who's a minor and much more. When you don't side with this toxic behavior they then go on to attack you by saying, "How dare you defend a b*lly?!", amongst other things. It's literally hypocritical because this is cyber b*llying, you're no better off for this behavior. No body is forcing you to like Garam, but the level some fans are reaching is ridiculous. 🙄
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
100% they are so disgusting! It's not like we are forcing them to like her but we just don't want them to have and send that shit to her. Poor gi probably trained so much just to be kicked out like a week after their debut. They should be ashamed of what they are doing. They can't prove if any of the things online are real or fake, so they should just stop believing in these types of stuff. I hate these types of "fans" so much 😭
@anavia5074
@anavia5074 Жыл бұрын
AND the audacity of people using the excuse "Well but she's not innocent either" Makes me wanna pull my hair out. How did they come to that conclusion??? After all that happened. The molka accident, her defending her friend, etc.. and that's their conclusion/argument? Oh good lord 🤦🤦🤦🤦
@whatdoesleeknowknow675
@whatdoesleeknowknow675 Жыл бұрын
I read some things that are just disgusting,like that she should get ra**d,and I was like "wtf" these people are so disturbing,I just hope that garam will recover soon
@nini-zu2zw
@nini-zu2zw Жыл бұрын
Frrr!!
@anavia5074
@anavia5074 Жыл бұрын
@@whatdoesleeknowknow675 Omg yes i saw that too!! There's someone even said "Tbh i hope it gets worse for her actually" to a tweet post worrying abt garam's mental health and possibly being suicidal
@jennierbyjane
@jennierbyjane Жыл бұрын
0:12 Lucas 1:57 Giselle 3:20 Kim Woojin 4:28 Irene 5:52 Soojin 7:03 Kim Garam 8:08 Jennie
@nyusha260
@nyusha260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you😊💚
@cinnamaricat
@cinnamaricat Жыл бұрын
thank you so much !!
@jainithaachu6864
@jainithaachu6864 Жыл бұрын
Thanks 💖
@chuuchuuutrain
@chuuchuuutrain Жыл бұрын
I'M YOUR 127th LIKE
@safa-1627
@safa-1627 Жыл бұрын
soojin really deserves better than how cube and the media treated her
@fancyjeongyeon1433
@fancyjeongyeon1433 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with woojin, it’s so sad seeing so many people still slander him after he’s been proven innocent.
@quuenbanaana8425
@quuenbanaana8425 Жыл бұрын
toxic stays *cough cough
@golfa4952
@golfa4952 Жыл бұрын
@@quuenbanaana8425 fr. I go to TikTok and saw some dumby say that woojin is bad and disgusting they still believe woojin touched his thigh while looking at chaeryoung. A bunch weirdo
@makennaschnipke5590
@makennaschnipke5590 Жыл бұрын
anyone gonna notice how she faded seungmin out with picture of ot8 lol. honestly when i first saw the 2 next to eachother they do look really similar
@fancyjeongyeon1433
@fancyjeongyeon1433 Жыл бұрын
@@makennaschnipke5590 I saw that haha
@golfa4952
@golfa4952 Жыл бұрын
@@makennaschnipke5590 same. When I was stanning straykids I couldn't know who is seungmin and woojin
@memyselfandi7634
@memyselfandi7634 Жыл бұрын
Garam really had it rough. She is still so young and they already destroyed her whole life, her talking and reminescing about her 2 weeks career is absolutely heartbreaking.
@calipo5110
@calipo5110 Жыл бұрын
She deserved it for being a bully maybe she can repent and try again in the future since she is still young
@Favzaed
@Favzaed Жыл бұрын
@@calipo5110 she wasn’t a bully
@samuraidestroyer4037
@samuraidestroyer4037 Жыл бұрын
@@calipo5110 Well you don't know that she is bully because you weren't there at that time.
@grmsun3692
@grmsun3692 Жыл бұрын
@@calipo5110 garam defended her friend from sexual harassment and got literally BULLIED by the whole internet to the point that she can't leave home and you think she deserves it???
@oniongurl
@oniongurl Жыл бұрын
@@calipo5110 what the hell is wrong with you? Clearly you don't know what's going on. If standing up for your bff is called bullying then yes I'm also a bully. That so called victim SEXUALLY HARASSED HER BFF BY POSTING PICS OF HER IN HER UNDERWEAR ONLINE WTH
@maenishkat
@maenishkat Жыл бұрын
Lucas' hiatus is incredibly lengthy. Why is it taking so long ? We all miss him and he needs his image cleared, even if he doesn't come back in the group. He's been slandered and hated so much online that he deserves his peace. I hope once he's cleared of all allegations he can go back to the entertainment industry, but only if his mental health and well being are better. He's still so young and it must have been a very hard time for him.
@jvlycia
@jvlycia Жыл бұрын
Exactly and SM has been including him on thier website and just recently Nct's official account followed all Wayv members including Lucas and Wayv members has been mentioning them as seven. I see no reason of why they still haven't release a statement about Lucas or any update about the scandal. Take note it's his own sasaengs who made up those allegations because Lucas called them out on Weibo when they followed Wayv in the bathroom..
@justsomeone4498
@justsomeone4498 Жыл бұрын
I wanna stay positive but i'm kinda fearing whats next. It's been over a year now and aside from a few crumbs, we haven't gotten any update on him or his position in the NCT. No one mentions him, SM makes no statment about him, it's getting scary cause it's almost as if he doesn't exist. I do wish he comes back, but i can only imagine how hard it must be for him right now.
@j.a9558
@j.a9558 Жыл бұрын
It's soooooo annoying! Like I miss him so much
@auroraauriii
@auroraauriii Жыл бұрын
It’s almost scary the fact that after all this evidence of innocence and SM that follow Lucas and include his name in the group… A statement hasn't come out yet... why?! I'm almost afraid he's sick of health...
@maenishkat
@maenishkat Жыл бұрын
@Aurora I hope you're wrong... I so hope you are ! I want to be hopeful and think he'a getting back in shape and taking care of himself for as long as he needs to before coming back...
@bick8601
@bick8601 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out that Garam deserves justice. There are still people who believe the rumors that she was a bully rather than believing her who’s providing the real evidence that she’s innocent. I guess it’s easier to hate on a poor underage girl.
@jordanjohncarloj.8878
@jordanjohncarloj.8878 Жыл бұрын
Garam's situation is honestly one of the most unfair thing in the Kpop industry and it's so disgusting!
@bella-hi4oo
@bella-hi4oo Жыл бұрын
attending children's protection rights ceremonies, They had a speech on UNICEF, they even invited in America to discuss" Asian hates", one of their music video is about children's protection from bullying..But why did they turn blind eye on Garam which is under their roof?? Korean artists only protect their image and turn blind on other artists even though they have the capability to help and make a difference.
@guadalupemontoya1819
@guadalupemontoya1819 Жыл бұрын
For Irene and the luggage I just have to ask; wouldn’t the hate be on the manager if Irene was pushing the cart? Literally only one person is needed to push the cart and managers and staff are just doing their job by insuring that their idols bags get to the right place, so why are people angry that they are doing their job? They probably didn’t even talk about it because idols mostly follow the directions of their team instead of order them around because the company is the one that arranges flights, rides, and details of the trip.
@allons_y1001
@allons_y1001 Жыл бұрын
Right?! There'd be screams that SM is "mistreating" her 🙄... not to mention, idols need to be able to concentrate on staying on their feet if there ends up being a crowd. That's why you typically don't see idols with their luggage at the airport. Who do they think is getting the luggage to the check-in counter?
@ByOwlLight
@ByOwlLight Жыл бұрын
The context from that one is that they were going to film that Irene hangs out with friends show where it was with some of her staff; some people think the show is a poor attempt at covering for the mistreatment thing, and argued if the staff were supposed to be there as actual friends, then why are they working? But like uh. It'd be kind of awkward for multiple people to push one luggage cart?? Just cuz one person is pushing the cart doesn't mean they're being made to? It was super weird.
@JPLEYONKO4
@JPLEYONKO4 Жыл бұрын
@@ByOwlLight the show is not for Irene to cover up for her stupid scandal for which we don't even know her side of the story. The show is for reveluvs and baetokkis. Irene has been saying since 2019, she achieved a lot as Irene, but would like to achieve something as Bae joo hyun. It's for her fans. Not for the general public.
@ByOwlLight
@ByOwlLight Жыл бұрын
@@JPLEYONKO4 Oh yeah, I know! It's just what some angry peeps were claiming and why they were pitching a fit about it.
@WeepingValkyrie
@WeepingValkyrie Жыл бұрын
It's funny how Irene gets hate for a staff member carrying her belongings but CUBE got hate when photos at an LA airport showed the GIdle members helping with hauling their own luggage
@nikemaraje5
@nikemaraje5 Жыл бұрын
People are never happy
@asmaahmad3978
@asmaahmad3978 Жыл бұрын
i find it very funny how when an idol is accused of something bad, people are so quick to believe it and affirm it. but when information surfaces that the idol is innocent then people question it and even disregard it. the double standards… truly disgusting
@emicapetica
@emicapetica Жыл бұрын
Kpop is really a dark world
@gabi-xn1gk
@gabi-xn1gk Жыл бұрын
Fr
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
The K-pop industry in general is just so toxic and strict. Companies always create these BF/GF Fantasy with fans causing fans to become delusional. A normal K-pop fan will buy 1 album while a delusional fan will buy an entire box of albums. Making fans so delusional with there favorite idols is part of K-pop marketing and how companies make big money.
@true282
@true282 Жыл бұрын
I think the Garam situation is school girls sticking up for their friends. School is a pressure cooker, you say and do things you don’t mean because you’re immature, I don’t think it was as bad as people interpreted it. Also Jennies “lazy” dancing, she’s in the world biggest girl group, yet people expect her to be chipper always, let people be tired ffs.
@elle-bf9ks
@elle-bf9ks Жыл бұрын
And people still had the nerve to compare it to some injury hwasa had saying “ if hwasa can still dance with an injury, Jennie can “ ( like hwasa is going to see that comment and praise them for it )
@cristelleleigh8077
@cristelleleigh8077 Жыл бұрын
@@elle-bf9ks Which is stupid since again,people have different bodies-others can get tired easily and have different pain tolerance
@cristelleleigh8077
@cristelleleigh8077 Жыл бұрын
@Zsófi They really do be finding stupid reasons to hate idols-few months ago they literally jumped on the bandwagon making fun of Wonyoung for eating a damn strawberry as if its the most normal thing ever
@cristelleleigh8077
@cristelleleigh8077 Жыл бұрын
@Zsófi Yup,they really be calling an 18 year old girl a pick me cuz she was apparently tryin to act all cute and pretty
@cristelleleigh8077
@cristelleleigh8077 Жыл бұрын
@Zsófi Exactly,if she had a blank face they'd complain that she'd look cold and mean and if she was all smiley and cute they say that she's a pick me-which is stupid cause it just seems that they don't know what a pick me is. And as you said,it's their job-literally what they do for a living and here they are slamming her for being overly 'cringy' and 'fake'
@-GiGi-
@-GiGi- Жыл бұрын
Giselle deserves more respect. People tracking her all past social media accounts and posting it, getting hate for making a small mistake on stage, calling fat, plastic and nepo baby - like *stop* ! Giselle hate train is getting out of hand...
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
Gigi is getting way too much hate, she lost all the confidence she had during black mamba and next level eras because of that. Seriously she don’t deserve that and I think she’s tired about it
@Slime_cl0ck
@Slime_cl0ck Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel bad for her. I don’t wanna hate on her but I feel like she does need to improve on the dancing
@Slime_cl0ck
@Slime_cl0ck Жыл бұрын
@BIG BUFF ANTI BIGOT BARNEY yeah but I just don’t get why people have to bring weight into this. That’s the only toxic thing
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
@@Slime_cl0ckshe is a good dancer actually, if you watch black mamba dance practice or next level performances her dance is 🔥. I was in the same situation as her, I’m a dancer too and I can tell that if you’re no longer confident while dancing because of hate or whatever then you can’t dance anymore, and I’m sure that is what is happening with giselle right now 😭😭
@Slime_cl0ck
@Slime_cl0ck Жыл бұрын
@@gabthemultistan6695 there is proof that she isn’t a good dancer tho
@streamveryniceto200m
@streamveryniceto200m Жыл бұрын
Imagine sacrificing you childhood to fulfill you dream of being a k-pop idol and then it get SMASHED the second you become one. Lucas, Jennie, Irene, Woojin, Garam, Soojin and Giselle all deserve way better.
@roodietoodieshow6771
@roodietoodieshow6771 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Jimin AOA situation and the TARA situation as well! People never learn from these false accusations from haters who want to see someone they knew fall from fame! Smh
@DianeTheDeadly
@DianeTheDeadly Жыл бұрын
I just KNEW Soojin would be here! Justice for our girl!
@tinyaliyahtv
@tinyaliyahtv Жыл бұрын
Fans and companies have ruined so many idol's career throughout the years, it's getting tiring. Y'all need to stop.
@tobibi4ever
@tobibi4ever Жыл бұрын
There's a huge difference between holding someone accountable and straight up hating on them. Giselle and Garam's scandals are the best examples of how hypocritical and malicious netizens can be, especially Kpop stans. Of course, Giselle made a mistake by mouthing the n-word and dancing as she did, she hurt people and showed that she was uneducated. But that doesn't give anyone a free pass to spread negativity by bullying her online. Haven't y'all ever seen on Twitter and TikTok how people make fun of her body, the way she sings and dances and wish she could d*e? As if her wrong actions could justify such a thing. Garam suffered from the exact same thing. I've never witnessed such a mob effect, thousand of videos and comments made fun of her, insulted her and were delighted by her contract being terminated. How could people do worse than she supposedly did? And stans have the audacity to complain about those who stay neutral. I'll just ask this question. Who's the worst person, the one who made a mistake and tries their best to become a better person despite their problematic past, or the one who always brings things up, takes part in bullying people and uses the others' actions to justify it ?
@cheeseburger7918
@cheeseburger7918 Жыл бұрын
exactly my thoughts.. they bully them for their appearance, dance etc.. and when someone says "thats mean and unnecessary" they say "well shes a r@cist/bully".. i dont get it because these are two completely unrelated things..
@tttiffa
@tttiffa Жыл бұрын
Giselle acc did something wrong + Garam was accused. Giselle doesn't deserve death threats but you have to recognise there is a huge difference. She's grown up close to the Western world + knows not to use the n-word yet she did.
@celine9richardson
@celine9richardson Жыл бұрын
Weird to compare garam to Giselle when garam was not entirely at fault 😹. And people bully idols regardless of whether they say the n word or not. People criticise winters high notes and Karina not being good enough to be main dancer, not because they said the n word, but because that’s what kpoppies for some reason do. Whereas garam was jumped upon and attacked without mercy until full documents were shown to prove how the ‘victim’ was not entirely innocent. But Giselle was wrong 110% and nothing will change that. You trying to use the link between kpoppies just bullying and someone saying the n word and being genuinely in the wrong is weird. You should have used a different example. Hm.
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
@@tttiffa yeah maybe, but that doesn’t mean that netizens can make such comments about her …
@tobibi4ever
@tobibi4ever Жыл бұрын
@@celine9richardson I just used both of them because they are featured in the same video. Of course their cases are different, I know damn well that Garam isn't proved guilty contrary to Giselle who got caught on camera. My point is, whatever you did, you do not deserve to be hated and bullied. I can get that people want problematic idols be held accountable or even cancelled, it's totally fair because they need to be educated. But if you think about it, what's the point of hating except ruining your life and others' ? And as for me, I would never waste time and energy to hate someone online.
@na.skz0325
@na.skz0325 Жыл бұрын
Woojin is so strong.. even the fandom did bad things on him I really don’t get it :( I don’t understand why some Stay give hate on other stay when they speak about Woojin.
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
Stays are literally the most toxic fandom among 4th gen groups, that’s why I decided to leave their fandom btw 😭
@na.skz0325
@na.skz0325 Жыл бұрын
@@gabthemultistan6695 I can’t agree cause I don’t know all fandoms of 4gens but I can tell that I personally feel good confortable and loved among them like a big family (cheesyyy) even tho (like in every fandom) there is some toxic person.
@kimatiny._.graphics
@kimatiny._.graphics Жыл бұрын
@@na.skz0325 tbh. Toxic ones are the most loudest ones in some fandoms. I am a multistan so i can assure you Engenes and Stays are the most toxic. But! As i said the toxic one's are the most loudest ones so that's why we feel like they're the most toxic one's Stays are kinda becoming Armies 2.0
@na.skz0325
@na.skz0325 Жыл бұрын
@@kimatiny._.graphics the “Stays are kinda becoming Armies 2.0” hurts so bad 😭
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore
@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Жыл бұрын
@@kimatiny._.graphics oh I tell u Orbits are starting to become toxic too
@illegaluser69
@illegaluser69 Жыл бұрын
Kim Garam has to be the unluckiest kpop idol ever. I feel so bad for her, she's obviously innocent, otherwise the accusers wouldn't been caught lying and photoshopping
@emily5588
@emily5588 Жыл бұрын
There’s always a bit of truth in every rumor 🤷‍♀️
@jfkwkfk8867
@jfkwkfk8867 Жыл бұрын
@@emily5588 Nah I wouldn't say it like that you just wanna sound like a poetry writer
@ryujinswig3253
@ryujinswig3253 Жыл бұрын
@@emily5588 the truth is that she defended her friend from the disgusting pervert that is eunseo and sweared at her. tell me "emily", what would you do if someone took nude pictures of your friend and posted them on the internet without consent? thought so.
@emily5588
@emily5588 Жыл бұрын
@@ryujinswig3253 lmao stop being so pressed. I just said that there’s probably at least some truth in all those rumours. And the truth is that none of know what ACTUALLY went down. I am still waiting until it’s officially proven, until that. I stay neutral.
@prisminaa
@prisminaa Жыл бұрын
@@emily5588 garam made a statement and the proof that garam is a bully isn't reliable and could be easily fabricated
@alexandra-ts1xu
@alexandra-ts1xu Жыл бұрын
i would add Hyunjin, Bangchan, Lia, Chaeryeong and Wonyoung, none of them deserve the among of hate they are getting and its really sad to see. I hope they are all mentally okay😕
@nurulizzati2285
@nurulizzati2285 Жыл бұрын
yeri too
@Yeshiroslover
@Yeshiroslover Жыл бұрын
And bahyyih
@jeonneverland
@jeonneverland Жыл бұрын
Nancy
@gabthemultistan6695
@gabthemultistan6695 Жыл бұрын
@@jeonneverland you’re right, Nancy is literally an angel ❤️and she got hate for nothing
@jeonneverland
@jeonneverland Жыл бұрын
@@gabthemultistan6695 ikr. It breaks my heart when I remember what people said about her. She's literally so sweet❤
@ellvze
@ellvze Жыл бұрын
Still crying over Soojin's case, she deserve a lot of love, apologies, especially justice :((
@megilengu840
@megilengu840 Жыл бұрын
Ssa and those sisters will pay everything that have done
@sofi_773
@sofi_773 Жыл бұрын
Garam didn’t deserve the disgusting hate and name calling. HYBE also handled it horribly by also terminating her contract and all the statements. But going by her statement and school record that Garam released after her contract was terminated, both girls ended up bullying each other. In the translations what started it was Yoo Eun Seo gossiping about Garam and friends, which resulted in Garam and 8 other girls taking Eun Seo behind an apartment complex to yell and curse at her for 3 hrs, although Garam alleges she didn’t curse at Eun Seo. Eun Seo apologized and said she would do better and her and Garam reconciled privately. Yoo Eun Seo told 2 male friends and soon after the apartment complex issue, those male friends messaged Garam calling her rude and belittling names as well as telling her not to touch Eun Seo. That angered Garam, well within her rights (shame on Eun Seo for involving males) and she sent screenshots to Eun Seo calling her stupid, telling her to go away, and go back to the country side. Eun Seo left the chat room yet one of her male friends continued to curse at Garam, afterwards they wanted to meet her so they could allegedly resolve the messages between Garam and Eun Seo which ended up being bs because the male friends were also bullies themselves. Fast forward to incident number 2, the photograph. After the elementary school incident where it was decided that they were no longer to be friends, clearly Eun Seo disliked that because she stole Garam’s Facebook account and uploaded the picture of Garam’s friend (shameful of Eun Seo to upload such a thing) which resulted in more drama and before Eun Seo could face any consequences she transferred. When the rumors became known, Garam opened a chat room and invited Eun Seo asking if she transferred because she was scared as well as calling her ugly, a dog and kabuki. In the end both girls bullied each other but it’s quite clear who was worse than the other. Eun Seo. If HYBE had done better with statements perhaps the outcome would have been different, but as a company they handled it horribly. I don’t think she deserved to get her contract terminated, she definitely deserves an apology from people who called her vile names. And yes, Woojin definitely deserves an apology. I’m sick of some old stays still trying to make him seem like he did something bad.
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't say it better. Garam has so much potential but she gotten so much hate from netizens and the public because of what she did in the past. Like can't they just move on and forget about it instead of using this moment as an opportunity to get revenge. HYBE should had handled this better and Garam would had still been with Le Sserafim. Now her career and possibly her future is ruined.
@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067
@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 Жыл бұрын
They just used her for the clout .. there’s no other explanation for it … if they already had the full evidence of the report why didn’t they use it ? Garam and her friend spoke about it and said they didn’t use it without telling them why … SMusic really lost a gem and they’re scared cause they’ll get punished for putting her life at risk
@travel3702
@travel3702 Жыл бұрын
Hybe literally defended her from the start and their first statement was that she was innocent and their other statements was exactly what garam had told them but y’all were so quick to hate on hybe and say they shouldn’t be defending her and people kept hating on Garam. Now that they had her leave the group ur all saying Hybe didn’t handle it well? Like why do u all keep back tracking? If they defend her Hybe is bad but if they don’t then they are also bad? The hate was too much so no matter the outcome garam would have kept getting this hate and that would hurt the group so hybe had no choice but to do what they did. That was ALL because of the unnecessary hate y’all were spreading. Hybe did what they could but it’s y’all that ruined it for her not hybe. Hybe statements were exactly what garam said but y’all didn’t believe it and hated hybe for it, now that hybe had to let her go u are saying it’s hybe fault? LIKE maybe if y’all listened to what Hybe had to say from the start and didn’t throw unnecessary hate then maybe garam would still have been in the group. This isn’t hybes fault, it’s the people on socials that did this to her. Now ur saying hybe should have done better with statements? Like the statements were exactly what garam said and they were defending her but u all had a lot to say about those statements now ur saying they should have done better because she had to be let go from the outcome of the hate? Like make it make sense, what did u even want from them? It was u people that did this, not hybe and not even garam.
@travel3702
@travel3702 Жыл бұрын
@@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 read what I said above
@travel3702
@travel3702 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 read what I said above and stop back tracking and making it out as it was hybe fault when it was the people online that did this to her and this is too everyone delulu out there like the Sofia girl. I’m not a hybe stan just cause I have the decency to defend a label that clearly did what they could but now y’all are back tracking and hating.
@jadeangelofficial3096
@jadeangelofficial3096 Жыл бұрын
So many idols deserve justice also I miss Soojin so bad I hope she is okay ❤
@estherfagbemi4781
@estherfagbemi4781 Жыл бұрын
I'm not just saying this, but honestly I always thought Garam was innocent or either that the accusations put against her were exaggerated Like even if she did some of the thing that's was being said alot of people that where attacking her may have done the same like she still a minor Also the fact she was just a kid and people where attacking here for something they weren't even sure on themselves 😶😔.
@JelenaMilosavljevic
@JelenaMilosavljevic Жыл бұрын
Same! If someone actually posted those photos of her friend in their underwear online, I would CHEER even if Garam punched them in the face! Like to ppl not realize that her friend got EXPLOITED??? Garam has full right to pop-off on that person
@coolmikey4022
@coolmikey4022 Жыл бұрын
This why people have to get there heads out there asses and look at the facts and think logically because after she got kicked out the group people were bitching about why she got kicked out the group and that’s she innocent but i some of those people were the same ones saying to kick her out and saying nasty things about her at the end no one is satisfied with the outcome it’s pretty much a lose lose situation we’re you make one group mad and the other mad this whole situation is just fucked 🤦🏻‍♂️
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
Garam is only 16 years old and she didn't deserved to get all of this hate
@estherfagbemi4781
@estherfagbemi4781 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 exactly like I'm the same age as her I couldn't imagine that
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
@@estherfagbemi4781 I feel bad for her because now her career and possibly her future is literally ruined because of all these shameful attacks on her by netizens
@icebear3561
@icebear3561 Жыл бұрын
I just feel as though Woojin’s story breaks my heart, he’s doing really well internationally but there’s still comments + what bangchan said about him broke my heart too…Chris definitely needs to elaborate for what he said personally as that caused a lot of hate towards woojin
@ws5884
@ws5884 Жыл бұрын
Are you talking about when Bang Chan said “ a friend who turned on him” on a vlive? He confirmed it was not Woojin and asked to stop sending hate to him. It was a different person
@honeymilk3815
@honeymilk3815 Жыл бұрын
@@ws5884 no he cleared up about the song. Not the live where he was talking about betrayal. There were two lives.
@honeymilk3815
@honeymilk3815 Жыл бұрын
Yeah , i get that chan was probably very hurt but honestly, he knew woojin can't say anything to defend himself yet he still said that about woojin. I get chan's a human too but he should've atleast done something when the hate grew. It hurts because i love them both sm
@ws5884
@ws5884 Жыл бұрын
@@honeymilk3815 oh then probably the source I saw was wrong. Thank you for correcting
@idontknowwhattoputhere5434
@idontknowwhattoputhere5434 Жыл бұрын
@@honeymilk3815 no bc I was bothered about what Chan said too
@n.i.k.i.t.a
@n.i.k.i.t.a Жыл бұрын
funny how y'all blame it all on hybe when y'all were the ones wanting her to be out of the group. they clearly stated in the starting of their statement that they can't reveal the personal information related to the case, which included the svc. they explained her side of the story but y'all chose to ignore it calling it a "made up story" or " a wattpad fanfiction" . the ignorance and lack of knowledge of kpoppies ruined the life of a 16 years old. y'all go around saying minors should be protected but didn't think twice before harassing and cyberbullying a literal minor.. garam deserves the biggest apology from kpoppies..
@fathiaolomowewe3787
@fathiaolomowewe3787 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. They might not have handled it properly but they did better than what a lot of other companies did
@n.i.k.i.t.a
@n.i.k.i.t.a Жыл бұрын
@@madhumita134 I am sorry but should it even matter? why do you have compare in every single thing. yes jennie gets a lot of hate for dumbest reasons but you don't have to say that she'll "beat" them for being most hated. getting the most amount of hate is not an achievement and it never should be. the thing that needs to be noted here is all the idols get hate for a lot of dumb and baseless reasons or rumors or accusations and this thing needs to be stopped...
@giorgiagatti89
@giorgiagatti89 Жыл бұрын
Actually, Garam deserves an apology (and even more, legally-speaking) both from netizens and the company. If Hybe can't be blamed for how they handled it, they can still be blamed for firing her when there were proofs of her being innocent (such as the full and detailed documents that she revealed after her forced departure). She wasn't just kicked out of the group, she was FIRED.
@nightbreaker3187
@nightbreaker3187 Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for all of them. The media just cancels people for no reason. I miss Woojin so much 😭💞
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Same 😭😭
@Koppanna
@Koppanna Жыл бұрын
he's a soloist why do you miss him?
@honeymilk3815
@honeymilk3815 Жыл бұрын
You can check out woojin's solo stuff !!! He's still active and successful
@nightbreaker3187
@nightbreaker3187 Жыл бұрын
@@honeymilk3815 yes I know, I always check out his covers and songs as well as his other stuff, it's just that whenever I look at old skz clips I can't help but imagine how the group would be right now if he was still there
@nightbreaker3187
@nightbreaker3187 Жыл бұрын
@@Koppanna dude, I miss him being in the group and the oldest member for his fellow teammates, I know he's a soloist
@MoomooMaria
@MoomooMaria Жыл бұрын
Correction. Garam HAS been shown to be innocent. There was always evidence from the beginning showing that. You and all the other nasty people who have been attacking this child just chose too and still are choosing to ignore it. It was all made up. She was never a bully. The “victim” was the actual bully and aggressor and her punishment would have been worse that what garam was given. But she transferred. That girl just couldn’t see garam succeed and wanted to make her life miserable like her own. The photos from the desk you mention? Was from when garam was in middle school being tormented by that so called victim. Garams school never classified her garam as a bully and said she never smoked or drank. Garams school ambas said that level 5s are given out there just as much as level 1s and that each school have a diff scale on the severity in what they’re giving out and why. She stood up to a ex friend slash bully fir sharing underwear photos of her BFF online and in return her life gets ruined and she’s labeled something she is not. Granted, cursing isn’t the way to go and an adult could have easily been introduced to the drama, but to have your name dragged for months and months and even with all the forged and conflicting “evidence “ the accuser brought out that has been debunked, this girl was still being harassed and called a bully when she and her close friends were the victim. Stop continuing to beat a dead horse and let this literal child heal from the public witch-hunt and find herself for herself
@bick8601
@bick8601 Жыл бұрын
Exactly but believe me there are still a lot of brainless people who think she’s guilty.
@xblccdx
@xblccdx Жыл бұрын
I swear, she is still so young and people blindly accuse her of being guilty.
@CsySnw
@CsySnw Жыл бұрын
I swear this channel said so much shit about her (especially the one who's talking in this vid) and now are acting all wishy washy. Just like those other people who jumped on the band wagon, can't even own up to their mistakes.
@bestday1097
@bestday1097 Жыл бұрын
You spoke the truth sis, this channel also responsible for spreading fake rumors about garam. They used the situation to get views and blew up fake rumors to their viewers & the creators of this channel still don't care much about the situation, even in this video they spoke like garam is still a bully even after she proved her self innocence. They are still using garam for clicks & not even consider about the seriousness of these fake rumors. These type channels are also responsible for what happened to garam.
@tnlkb6115
@tnlkb6115 Жыл бұрын
@@bestday1097 probably don't want to admit to themself that they fuck up. Even I felt stupid for believing Garam accuser, the only difference, I made sure to own up to it and update all of my friends that weren't following the whole situation and still believe the "proves" against Garam.
@Mashka14
@Mashka14 Жыл бұрын
It further proves that is a very dark side of the K-pop music industry and the scandals the Idols were involved either the rumors being spread by Netizens were False and untrue especially on social media
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons why I hate netizens. I swear netizens can't even be called fans. They assume wayyyy to much, without any proof. It's so annoying. They get way to into idol's person life.
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
Everytime a male idol and female idol from different groups and companies are seen hanging out together on the street or anywhere else, netizens put their names all over the news and social media. Or if an idol is accused of being a school bully or has any controversy or scandals, netizens puts their name all over the news and social media.
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834yeah like, let's say I'm an idol and so is my friend ( and I'm a girl and he's a guy), people would automatically assume "OMG ARE THEY DATING?! " "they look so cute together >////
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
@@seungbxrry9449 Like is it illegal in the K-pop world to date or hang out with someone of the opposite gender? Like what can't idols be humans? Fans and netizens are always judging you on everything like on what you do, wear, act, etc. They expect that there favorite would be available to them 24/7 and especially for female idols expect them to act cute, single, and innocent 24/7?
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 fr and for male idols they expect them to have huge muscles and act like a gentleman all the damn time. Also netizens are so picky on what "their idol" looks like. For example they immediately hate on a male idol when they wear a skirt, dress, or crop top (in my defense they look fine asf in them so I don't really see a problem). Another example is if a female idol wears something that is comfortable to them like, oversized sweaters! To them it's like female idols have to wear dresses, skirts, and tight clothing. Netizens annoy tf outta me all the time 💀
@anienie2573
@anienie2573 Жыл бұрын
Please bring back our Soojin, i miss her so much 😭😭
@amanchantamang6802
@amanchantamang6802 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS JUST ANOTHER CASE OF HOW THIS WORLD TREAT POWERLESS PEOPLE FOR THEIR ENTERTAINMENT.
@neoculttexh
@neoculttexh Жыл бұрын
the worst thing about lucas’ situation is how fast so many of his supposed “fans” turned on him. it’s probably the same people who stood up for him when he made mistakes in performances that are now using those mistakes to tear him down. calling him names and saying he’s untalented. it just makes no sense how they can just believe anything they hear on the internet and run with it. sm never said he was out of the group yet people still have this horrible ot22 agenda. i’m pretty sure that he was proven innocent and the only reason he apologized is because sm is a trash company who either forces their idols to apologize even when they’re not wrong, or never lets them apologize when they actually have done something. if you’re the type to bash someone online and disrespect them the minute anyone says they’ve done wrong, you’re not a real fan of nct. i just really hope he doesn’t take what these fake fans are saying to heart and realizes that there are still people that do support and love him. 💚 ot23 💚
@entrancing.
@entrancing. Жыл бұрын
That makes me more sad sbout woojins departure is that Bang Chan got called “bad leader“ even tho he is the opposite AND PEOPLE SHOULD LET IRENE AND JENNIE BREATHE 😭😭😭
@ebenezersuico5055
@ebenezersuico5055 Жыл бұрын
Garam *needs* justice. She's just a minor and had to go through everything turns out she was innocent.🙄 And ya'll miss her? Aren't you ashamed and see yourselves as fake people? Like I defended her since the beginning and I never regretted it. She's innocent and Yoo Eunseo looks very suspicious.
@nxlix.x5424
@nxlix.x5424 Жыл бұрын
woojin’s and lucas’ mental strenght is unimaginable. there wasn’t many updates on lucas since he has gone on hiatus so i can’t really talk about him but i’ve followed woojin since the start of 2021 and back then before the documentary it was horrible for the fans i can’t imagine how hard it was for him. at that time if you said you support kim woojin you would be immediately canceled and got death threats, god he even literally begged people on live to leave him alone. i’m so so glad that his recent world tour worked out and that he saw how many people support him :(( *never trust anything you see on the internet without it being 100% confirmed, it could ruin someone’s career, their whole life.*
@joerilyn
@joerilyn Жыл бұрын
3:30 it's not Woojin. It's Seungmin.
@soicyy
@soicyy Жыл бұрын
thank you i lokey thought i was tripping or missed sumn but i didnt i was so confused lol
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Woojin wasn't even in that photo 😭
@soicyy
@soicyy Жыл бұрын
@@seungbxrry9449 inii and seung looks nothing like woo
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
@@soicyy they look nothing alike 😭
@savanna-shii8130
@savanna-shii8130 Жыл бұрын
Jennie and Taehyung's scandal shouldn't be a big deal it was just an accident and the way the toxic armys and baby armys attack Jennie as if they own Taehyung is just pathetic
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Fr. People should stop getting do jealous. It's not like tae would ever date them too. Its sad when people say they own idols. Like their humans too, not just some object 💔
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
If the dating rumors true than let them be. Like why can't idols be humans?
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 fr. Why do people get so jealous when their fav idol starts dating someone? 💀
@oniongurl
@oniongurl Жыл бұрын
Imagine being followed by a fellow artist and getting massive hate for it even when you did nothing wrong
@moonkyssedr9848
@moonkyssedr9848 Жыл бұрын
You missed one of the greatest injustices of all, Wonho of Monsta X even thought he was proven innocent of all charges that liars claimed to be true. He was not allowed to return to Monsta X and haters even complained when some of the boys went on a vacation together on their own time. Its a shame when our Idols cant even be with their friends because of haters. How can they feel that they have a right to control others in private lives. I mean WOW who died and made those haters Gods. I just dont understand why proven innocent people have to suffers because of others. The only good thing that happened is the liars did get punished and Wonho was able to sign with a company that was part of his original company as a Solo artist. Also BI got a raw deal as well , thank goodness he has made a comeback as well.
@giorgiagatti89
@giorgiagatti89 Жыл бұрын
Yes! This comment should be pinned.
@ThebestMali
@ThebestMali Жыл бұрын
THEY ALL DESERVE JUSTICE😭
@laylacox4187
@laylacox4187 Жыл бұрын
right
@wowiiu
@wowiiu Жыл бұрын
not giselle
@linamatthews
@linamatthews Жыл бұрын
The Lucas scandal makes me feel so sad. It's been cleared and found out that it was antis and saesangs that created this but there are still people name-calling Lucas and just being plain rude. NCT members are always hinting to us that NCT is always "ot23" meaning that Lucas did absolutely nothing wrong. And this is coming from people that have lived with him for years.
@savanna-shii8130
@savanna-shii8130 Жыл бұрын
All the scandals in the Kpop industry are so pathetic if they're dating why would the fans overreact it's not like they own the idols they're just fans they have no right to say "blank is mine" or "don't touch my blank". And the idols not giving their all during performances dont they know it's so tiring to perform continues performances singing and dancing?! They should be thankful that they're even still performing for them. And bullying scandals most of them are in the past even though it's true they should not make it a big deal cause it's in the past and the idol or the person may have changed. Companies should protect their idols since the idols are the one making money for them. ALL IDOLS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS NEEDS JUSTICE!
@paulamusik2509
@paulamusik2509 Жыл бұрын
I am always for "take it with a pinch of salt" and "you never can really know the person" but I truly believe Lucas is innocent. There was just so much in the accusations that seemed to not make any sense from the beginning and he always had such strong haters without any reasons. I just hope he is alright and will be back again to WayV's next comeback (that is supposed to be this year, so we'll see) and that WayV soon will not have to deal with this sh*tty situation anymore but can finally fly high, to quote Kun in their recent video.
@woostext1849
@woostext1849 Жыл бұрын
yeah same, and so many nct members genuinely adore him. I feel like if he rlly did something wrong some of the rlly female respecting members (like yuta, jaehyun ect) would've at least ignored him or not interected w him but they do. And the fact that thr wayv members still call them 7 just proofs more. I feel like someone like ten would deff not respect lucas anymore if he found out but he doesn't so I don't rlly believe any of it and also 3 days left till it has been a year since he went on hiatus TT Edit: OMG IM SOBBING RN IT HAS BEEN A YEAR SINCE WE RLLY HEARD SOMETHING FROM HIM I ACTUALLY WANNA CRY
@paulamusik2509
@paulamusik2509 Жыл бұрын
@@woostext1849 OH MY GOD REALLY?! RELEASE HIM, SM! WE MISS HIM SO MUCH!!! 😭❤️❤️❤️
@woostext1849
@woostext1849 Жыл бұрын
@@paulamusik2509 SAME LIKE HIM TRENDING ON TWT SAYS ENOUGH 😭😭 ALL NCTZENS
@nyusha260
@nyusha260 Жыл бұрын
Poor idols, they don't deserve this shit😔😭💔
@elle-bf9ks
@elle-bf9ks Жыл бұрын
can I add wonyoung to this list ??? That girl cannot BREATHE without people calling her all sorts of names ( it’s like what happened to Jennie )
@azurill6070
@azurill6070 Жыл бұрын
3:30 why did u grey out seungmin… he’s not woojin 💀 Edit: sorry if this comment sounded offensive, I just found it funny they greyed out seungmin 😂
@drewzy12
@drewzy12 Жыл бұрын
Ye why i was also confused
@jesuslover7942
@jesuslover7942 Жыл бұрын
Haha
@heyalovescarrots
@heyalovescarrots Жыл бұрын
Yeah I thought the same thing
@Tentwentysixxx
@Tentwentysixxx Жыл бұрын
HELP💀
@aspect6119
@aspect6119 Жыл бұрын
I hope for the best to Garam, imagine getting death threats at such a young age, and getting those threats for things that she didn't even do, I hope she is well
@ByOwlLight
@ByOwlLight Жыл бұрын
All of the actual accusations about Soojin were debunked save for the sisters and what basically boiled down to a... phone call where she told the younger girl off for being late or something, and the older sister admitted she took the phone and physically threatened her. Her career destroyed over a middle school phone call. It's infuriating that she was a casualty of that wild bullying accusations wave because of an actress who has more clout getting involved.
@ryujinswig3253
@ryujinswig3253 Жыл бұрын
i feel so bad for garam... to make the death threats, career ruining even worse, people have no remorse after doing this to a CHILD. to a poor girl who just stood up for her friend against the pervert eunseo. to a poor girl who just wanted to fulfill her dreams of being an idol. to a poor girl who's now afraid to leave her own house and is being sent death threats in school. kpop fans never learn. and they never will.
@azurill6070
@azurill6070 Жыл бұрын
I wonder where Lucas is…
@JIHANNIEKO
@JIHANNIEKO Жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that people hate on Garam for defending her friend against bullies. Yes, she resorted to actions she shouldn’t have but she did it to PROTECT. Those people did it for pure bullying. Even after Garam released the full school violence report (something that those “victims” didn’t have the balls to do), people are still hating on her. She’s 16 and is being hated for something taken completely out of context. #justiceforgaram
@ixkthyn
@ixkthyn Жыл бұрын
Garam deserves the biggest apology!! Miss u girl😔😔
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
I will not support Le Sserafim anymore because Le Sserafim is not complete without Garam
@amanchantamang6802
@amanchantamang6802 Жыл бұрын
ATLEAST SHE MUST LIVE A NORMAL LIVE . LIKE GOING OUT WITH FRIENDS. BECAUSE THOSE WHO HAVE HARRASSED, BULLIED , ABUSED AND THREATENED TO KILL KIM GARAM ARE STILL ENJOYING THEIR LIFE WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, SLEEPING, EATING OR GOING OUT . I PRAY TO LORD BUDDHA TO PUNISH THEM BRUTALLY TO SUCH ONLINE HARASSERS .
@misty7645
@misty7645 Жыл бұрын
Woah-
@kleahpatra444
@kleahpatra444 Жыл бұрын
My poor Soojin and Garam 💔
@maidatariq4934
@maidatariq4934 Жыл бұрын
I really want soojin to comeback she dont deserve it and also garam she too young to handle all this honestly these idols dont deserve it and its company responsibility to protect them from hate comment i really hope they doing fine
@kisses4kiki
@kisses4kiki Жыл бұрын
Im so sorry for ALL of them, hope they're all fine now, im gonna support all of them forever
@Who_tf_is_mh
@Who_tf_is_mh Жыл бұрын
It’s disgusting to see how Hybe used Garam to gain attention. Garam worked for years to become an idols and Hybe didn’t care about kicking her out. #JusticeForGaram !
@dvwxnzyhsb1124
@dvwxnzyhsb1124 Жыл бұрын
and now ur complaining ab HYBE kicking Garam? when in fact HYBE was the one who defended her even with all backlash they receive that Garam was rich because HYBE was defending her too much? the real perpetrator here are those bashers who even when HYBE released statements defending her side of the story nobody listened.. so tell me? would you still put the blame on hybe or the bashers who continued to bash her without hearing her side?
@dvwxnzyhsb1124
@dvwxnzyhsb1124 Жыл бұрын
and fyi HYBE is not the one who decided the situation but THE SOURCE MUSIC .. since they have their own CEO and MANAGEMENTS to take care of it.
@dvwxnzyhsb1124
@dvwxnzyhsb1124 Жыл бұрын
@@OldDannyDevito and what about the haters? none of these would've happen if they only listened to her.. HYBE already defended Garam but THOSE BASHERS just dont care at all.. they already released a statement.. but what can u do? you also had to protect ur other artist coz many are already rallying that if they dont let garam leave the company of source music they will not support the other girls and many fans of lesserafim are constantly asking that Garam should leave in order to not affect the other girls .. they are already pleading.. so what should u do? the hearing will go thru years to basically defend each sides and for judge ro make a final decision.. and time is already ticking for lesserafim.
@dvwxnzyhsb1124
@dvwxnzyhsb1124 Жыл бұрын
@@OldDannyDevito and yes again its always the BASHERS who are getting away unscathed like nothing happened because u basically pointed your anger to someone who have defended Garam and not to the bashers who not once heard her side of the story and making a full story of their tiktok of her basically a bully without even thinking for once that all those evidences against garam can be fake but they still go on because tell u what? they love to feed on those bullying stories .. they wanted to put all the anger to this person who they didnt even know personally and werent even there when that thing happened.
@Who_tf_is_mh
@Who_tf_is_mh Жыл бұрын
@@dvwxnzyhsb1124 Just so you know, I’ve always defended Garam and never bashed her. Some of us actually wanted her to stay so the fact that Garam got kicked hard made us a bit angry. Ive never cyber bullied her like thousands of other people and wished that they’d find a way to give her justice. Instead , they kicked her out and now, people dont care about her future. That makes me sad a lot but still, there’s nothing we can do anymore. #JusticeForGaram
@Sakuradiarrhea
@Sakuradiarrhea Жыл бұрын
9:10 That is actually Seungmin cuz woojin never made it to gods menu,but its fine everyone makes mistakes😊😀😁
@nic3307
@nic3307 Жыл бұрын
We need lucas back it's been a year 😭
@01v.b
@01v.b Жыл бұрын
Also SVT’s Mingyu and SKZ’s Hyunjin, they’re the sweetest guys ever🥺💖
@nikemaraje5
@nikemaraje5 Жыл бұрын
They really are 😥
@ahga6348
@ahga6348 Жыл бұрын
As a black woman, I believe it is pretty fair for us not to forgive Giselle if we don't want too. She speaks fluent English and shes of age to know multiple of idols have been canceled or held accountable for saying a Racial Slur. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of times the word "slipped" from her mouth in private if SZA is one of her favorite artists (almost all if SZA songs have the n word in it). Yes, aggressive hate in unnecessary but for me I just don't support her at all but I don't send hate. In all honesty, these companies need to be held accountable too. They are well into the international business to offer training on race issues as well as educate their staff on what to do and not do when it comes to culturally inspired concepts.
@kait4147
@kait4147 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I get so annoyed when nonblack people always try to speak about this and say “well she apologized” “not every apologizes”. I rather have someone not apologize and change their actions instead of someone do it immediately and then say that they were caught up in the moment.
@phantomthief7636
@phantomthief7636 Жыл бұрын
I made a comment saying a similar thing but you said it best. Completely agree
@goldmedalribbon
@goldmedalribbon Жыл бұрын
@@kait4147 exactlyyy plus her apology was barely even one
@aria6785
@aria6785 Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY
@Skz_froggi
@Skz_froggi Жыл бұрын
If you ever hated on garam don't talk to me and don't even try to be like "she never deserved That much hate and I feel bad for her" like don't even
@zZzjii
@zZzjii Жыл бұрын
hmm. the switch up from portraying garam IS a bully to now saying she deserves justice. be serious.
@ebenezersuico5055
@ebenezersuico5055 Жыл бұрын
Garam is innocent. Yoo Eunseo is the bully. She ruined Garam. If I owned a company I'd accept Garam. She would be a wonderful Idol.
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
Same here if I was the CEO of a K-pop company. I would accept anyone regardless of what they done in the past because everyone deserves a second chance.
@ebenezersuico5055
@ebenezersuico5055 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 Yes. I agree. Like she's a human a human is not perfect no matter what bad things they do they deserve not second but lots of chance.
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
@@ebenezersuico5055 Unfortunately in the K-pop industry, any controversy or scandal you get into in the present or the past can cost you your K-pop career and lose your love and support from most of netizens and the public. Like there is no personal or creative freedom in the K-pop industry because you are told by your company what kind of image or person you are going to be. Like if you had a dark image before debut but after you debut, you are forced to change your looks, personality, etc by your company in order to fit a certain image that you are assigned by your company and in order to fit the company's image.
@ebenezersuico5055
@ebenezersuico5055 Жыл бұрын
@@jordicarvajal2834 Yes.
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
@@ebenezersuico5055 Also companies are always creating GF/BF Fantasy with fans making them so delusional with there favorite idols. A normal K-pop fan will buy one album while delusional fans will buy an entire box of albums. This is literally all part of marketing in K-pop and how companies make massive profits off of delusional fans. Delusional fans will always invade private lives of idols and expect that there favorite idols will be available to them 24/7 and especially for female idols, expect them to be cute and innocent 24/7.
@mattgab19
@mattgab19 Жыл бұрын
I still get upset by the Giselle situation, but when I hear how loud her fans cheer for her, the pain melts away.
@NonchalantSims
@NonchalantSims Жыл бұрын
help meeee😭 you can’t be serious, Giselle said the nword
@mattgab19
@mattgab19 Жыл бұрын
@@NonchalantSims That’s it?
@mattgab19
@mattgab19 Жыл бұрын
@@NonchalantSims And by “that’s it”, I mean, that’s all it takes to be hated and harassed in perpetuity and even the context in which the word was used (singing along in a song in which the artist also said the n word) and even after she herself apologized, you’re still mad?
@lazymirae751
@lazymirae751 Жыл бұрын
@@NonchalantSims she said the n word by mistake while lipsinking to a song then apologised for it. its not like she said it on purpose or said it while insulting anyone. to me, as long as it was a mistake and she apologized then its fine
@kait4147
@kait4147 Жыл бұрын
@@lazymirae751 she literally admitted that she got “carried away” while singing. Let’s not act like she didn’t sing it happily until there was backlash. I don’t agree with stalking and threatening people BUT don’t tell people how to feel about a situation when someone uses a slur….
@llal4146
@llal4146 Жыл бұрын
Garam diserved so much better. She is just a 16 years old, and getting cyberbullying just because she protect her best friend.
@z00merang18
@z00merang18 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are sure Lucas is already out but I'm still hopeful and i wish he'll comeback with his group. He didn't deserve any of it. People just couldn't handle his talents and getting so famous and successful in a short time.
@sharanradd
@sharanradd Жыл бұрын
I really hope Soojin gets the justice that she deserves. She deserves to be treated 1000 times better than how her company and netizens treated her. I really miss her and I really wish for her to comeback :(
@chaengdubz8220
@chaengdubz8220 Жыл бұрын
The problem will always lie on the fact that perfection standards are always placed on idols and Korean entertainers. And when that person does one less than perfect thing, it’s blown way out of proportion. They cannot live a normal life whatsoever and your average everyday person who criticizes idols and entertainers fail to realize that.
@stay_with_skzneverlandcub7296
@stay_with_skzneverlandcub7296 Жыл бұрын
SOOJIN AND WOOJIN DESERVE JUSTICE
@ais398
@ais398 Жыл бұрын
have some shame.. you know damn well what you contributed to the garam case
@za3931
@za3931 Жыл бұрын
Right?! Im having whiplash from this channel posting all those videos about her negatively and now posting that she's innocent
@emily-zq6cx
@emily-zq6cx Жыл бұрын
i can’t believe there’s still so many people (especially on stan twitter) that believe garam is a bully
@officialcrystal801
@officialcrystal801 Жыл бұрын
hyunjin deserves justice and an apology too 😭
@Ikesfavpen
@Ikesfavpen Жыл бұрын
Compared to the idols in this video i dont think he belongs. These peoples fake rumours,missleading videos without context DESTROYED these peoples careers. Hyunjin got back on his legs with the support of stays while people like Garams career was ruined. Woojin got hated by stays bc of videos w/o context and cute moment vids deleted. He is mentally very strong. I feel bad fir chan aswell having the older member leave he really seemed upset i hope they still have contact off camera being the mature one alone must be exhausting esp when watching old clips of them supporting eachother....... I hope Garam gets justice aswell its scary how quickly media turn and how fast people are too literally tell people too commit ...... And yeah having to go on hiatus for smth you didnt do sucks. We should normalise staying netural instead if always believing the victim first for all of thems mental health. I hope hyunjin isnt too hurt now since it was a long time ago....
@bjc1243
@bjc1243 Жыл бұрын
@@Ikesfavpen fax
@officialcrystal801
@officialcrystal801 Жыл бұрын
@@Ikesfavpen its true that his scandal wasnt as big as these idols but he still deserves an apology
@Ikesfavpen
@Ikesfavpen Жыл бұрын
@@officialcrystal801 True true
@officialcrystal801
@officialcrystal801 Жыл бұрын
@@angelinaaa.385 bro relax i know that. even if the scandal is big or not he received alot of hate he deserves an apology too. thats what i am trying to say.
@amanchantamang6802
@amanchantamang6802 Жыл бұрын
THEY JUST HATE KIM GARAM . THAT'S IT . TILL NOW NO PROVE , NOTHING . JUST A PIECE OF PAPER IN THAT ALSO OTHER NAME WAS HIDDEN. I PRAY TO LORD BUDDHA TO TAKE GOOD CARE OF KIM GARAM . AND BRING OUT THE TRUTH . AT THE SAME TIME I ALSO PRAY TO LORD BUDDHA FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HARRASSED, BULLIED , ABUSED AND THREATENED TO KILL KIM GARAM MUST HAVE A TORTURING LIFE AND THEY SHOULD DAILY REGRET WHAT THEY DID TO KIM GARAM .
@illegaluser69
@illegaluser69 Жыл бұрын
What "LORD BUDDHA" ?! 🤣
@amanchantamang6802
@amanchantamang6802 Жыл бұрын
@@illegaluser69 LIKE CHRISTIANS PRAY TO LORD JESUS. BUDDHIST PRAY TO LORD BUDDHA.
@illegaluser69
@illegaluser69 Жыл бұрын
@@amanchantamang6802 Oohhh that's just your religion. I thought that was just a word u made up
@amanchantamang6802
@amanchantamang6802 Жыл бұрын
@@illegaluser69...
@sparkleesxoxo
@sparkleesxoxo Жыл бұрын
imagine pursuing your dreams and trained for a years and then someone just made a false accusations on you.
@luvsjilliane
@luvsjilliane Жыл бұрын
TimeStamps: 💫 00:11 - 01:56 · WAYV'S LUCAS 01:57 - 03:19 · ÆSPA'S GISELLE 03:20 - 04:27 · KIM WOOJIN 04:28 - 05:51 · RED VELVET'S IRENE 05:52 - 07:02 · (G)-IDLE'S SOOJIN 07:03 - 08:07 · KIM GARAM 08:08 - 09:05 · BLACKPINK'S JENNIE
@lilac_sun
@lilac_sun Жыл бұрын
3:28 ~ That's not Woojin but Seungmin...
@johnkim6574
@johnkim6574 Жыл бұрын
I want GARAM back to lesserafim. Also i have always stayed neutral, She's isn't a bully but a defender to her friends. #Garamdeservebetter
@seungbxrry9449
@seungbxrry9449 Жыл бұрын
Garam should just become a soloist. If I was her I would never go back after that. They literally kicked her out bc they didn't want the group to get hate. Hybe handled this so unprofessionally. I feel so bad for garam 😭💔
@ratangarg3821
@ratangarg3821 Жыл бұрын
@@johnkim6574 Hybe knews that they got Newjeans lineup to debut and they gave an F to garam so that focus is on NJ
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
Same because I feel like Le Sserafim isn't complete without Garam.
@SongOfIcarus
@SongOfIcarus Жыл бұрын
I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO MENTION WOOJIN!!! He NEEDS Justice. He did nothing wrong and I wanna see all the Toxic Stays on their knees, begging for him to forgive them... bc I won't, ever.
@S0ULA278
@S0ULA278 Жыл бұрын
And garam whole image appear in korean broadcasting talking about her bullying disable person. After she got kick out, turn out that she defending her friend because that victim spread her friend naked photo taken without consent. She was sentenced to school violence punishment because of her and the victim had argument. As stated by the school commitee, only argument and swear word were involved but no physical attack. She got the sentenced but the victim did not because her family decided to voluntarily transfer school 😑😑😑
@missz1833
@missz1833 Жыл бұрын
feel bad for KIm Garam she went though hell cuz of something she did when she was a kid
@jordicarvajal2834
@jordicarvajal2834 Жыл бұрын
She deserved a second chance to redeem herself
@_genny2.0
@_genny2.0 Жыл бұрын
I agree that people shouldn't have harassed her online and Hybe handled the scandal terribly. However what happened was only 4 years ago and I don't think she was fully innocent either (I don't think either party was innocent honestly). Yes, these kids were 12, but 12 years old is old enough to know that cursing at people, threatening other people and taking inappropriate pictures of your peers is wrong. I think she needs to stay out of the public eye for a while and maybe try to re-debut in a few years.
@khanyi8512
@khanyi8512 Жыл бұрын
@@_genny2.0 exactly, I feel bad for her however you do the crime you do the time…
@missz1833
@missz1833 Жыл бұрын
@@_genny2.0 i feel like its true that it was 4 yrs old but i still feel like she could have changed if yk what i mean? i also do think its best for her o stay away from the public eye and try again in 2-3 yrs
@Wontonsouplyfe
@Wontonsouplyfe Жыл бұрын
To be fair, HYBE did make statements that supported Kim Garam and they said that she’s actually a victim and even shared details of the situation at one point but that simply wasn’t enough cos many netizen believed it was false and that HYBe was just trying to make $. I’m disappointed that Source Music didn’t even bother setting up a system for fans to report fake or malicious information until now after Kim Garam’s departure. She should never have been kicked out. They could have just put her on hiatus while the rest of the group continued on. Now we are robbed of the Seraphim ot6
@lee_27_nam
@lee_27_nam Жыл бұрын
There were negociation btw hybe and yoo eunseo the so not a victim, god knows what happen for them to dismiss all the evidence garam her family and friends gave them and just terminate her contract without noticing her, there is something happened btw 20th May 2022 and 20 juin 2022, the contract was terminated even before the Japanese promotion. We will never know what happened.
@nn2rl
@nn2rl Жыл бұрын
If you want to be a kpop. U know what is going to happen and you know what you gonna deal with That’s whyy there’s a contract that idol’s have to sign and respect it till the end of it
@girly.mimi00
@girly.mimi00 Жыл бұрын
Lucas DESERVES JUSTICE !!!! He's innocent and his hiatus is lengthy asf. This is unfair to him honestly. I miss him.
@nyusha260
@nyusha260 Жыл бұрын
#JusticeforLucas
@girly.mimi00
@girly.mimi00 Жыл бұрын
@@nyusha260 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@nyusha260
@nyusha260 Жыл бұрын
@@girly.mimi00 I wish Lucas would return
@girly.mimi00
@girly.mimi00 Жыл бұрын
@@nyusha260 Same.
@VampwolfWarrior
@VampwolfWarrior Жыл бұрын
I wish this was 8 idols and they included Shin Jimin. That girl was dragged through hell on complete lies.
@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067
@appreciatewhatyouhaveandbe1067 Жыл бұрын
The truth is already out there about Garam, she’s innocent her friends exposed everything about EunSoo and those who are involved in it .. it’s time for y’all to admit that she’s not in wrong for protecting her friends especially when she was bullied herself
@kimji-won9046
@kimji-won9046 Жыл бұрын
so where was everyone when Garam was getting attacked?
@aanya2189
@aanya2189 Жыл бұрын
They really need justice!!
@Khondokar28
@Khondokar28 Жыл бұрын
Soojin deserved so much better. I hope she is doing well
@kforcate5654
@kforcate5654 Жыл бұрын
just drop by to support Lucas... I heard his family here in hongkong was harassed by some extreme fans too :( not his fans but really hope he gets his justice back!
@girly.mimi00
@girly.mimi00 Жыл бұрын
Same honestly. I only wanted to hear an update on Lucas. I really hope he and his family are doing well. 🙏🏾
@violeteeve2159
@violeteeve2159 Жыл бұрын
Ohh no. Not the family too TT Those antis/sasaengs/ "other" people are so horrible
@Maximusprime24
@Maximusprime24 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Sungmin from Super Junior deserves justice the most. He literally didn't do anything other than get married. SM just bowed down to a vocal minority and he hasn't been active for 5 years and haven't participated in an album in 8 YEARS
@blessy6915
@blessy6915 Жыл бұрын
Some ppl just have one job which is to hate... 🙄 World would be heaven if ppl minded their own business!
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