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@@ericfreutel8240 🤓🤓🤓

Yea I read that book too 😆

100%!

i just started and have the feeling i landed instant in phase 3.

Gotta love the 5600

Same with my AE 1200.

The best investment watch for x amount of dollars always frustrates me a bit. Can’t lie..

I’ve gotten similar comments when I’ve said how much I really like the new zenith chronomasters. It’s really annoying how people think everything revolves around Rolex and the other brands.

Not a bad thing to consider but I totally get what you mean. You need to be happy for the friend who's getting a new watch!

I bought my Seiko SNZH55 (fifty five fathoms for $130 a few years ago. It now goes over double that on ebay. Suck it, Rolex.

About the only thing that I like less than Rolex watches are Rolex snobs. The former are cliches, the latter are victims of advertising. Remember - 'style' is the collection of attributes that render someone unique, 'fashion' is the collection of items purchasable by those who lack style.

Damn. That's a good analogy

Words of wisdom

My friend said the exact same thing long time ago....just replace the words "Grail Watches are" with "My Wife is".

@@casualsuede 🤣🤣🤣

Teddy, Is it bad if I’m shopping for the next watch before I've even received the one I just ordered? Thanks.

100%

How many have you had serviced then? Let me guess, zero right? 🧐

@@alfieakaronaldog had to send a Hamilton back for movement repair. When each of them need a service, they will get it. Thanks for your valued contribution.

Not true. I have had all kinds of watches. Nothing seizes up faster than a Seiko in my experience. Luxury brands with nice in house movements simply last longer and need less maintenance.

@@bdegrds Not really, they just aren't worn as often as they sit in a bank vault so no wear and tear.

And it is just a watch ⌚️

Literally everything in my life beside my kid. But even sometimes him.

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Live long and prosper

The Speedy never failed me. Sundial with imperfections, amazing really

That dopamine fix

Think about this: if a mineral crystal scratches badly, all I have to do is replace the crystal. If a sapphire crystal shatters, what else might need expensive replacement, such as the dial and/or hands and indices?

Also, I like that acrylic box crystals actually flex, which is what they are designed to do. I always found sapphire box crystals to be analogous to those cars from the '70s that had phony "convertible" canvas tops that didn't go down; all the look with none of the function.

Yeah,me too

As Teddy said, in the end it’s just a watch. If you enjoy it then that’s all that matters!

You get the best bang for buck that way. Well done. Enjoy.

I've owned a few expensive watches, but I still appreciate the sub $1K pieces. In fact, I recently acquired a Seiko Dark Manta Samurai and I haven't felt that giddy about a watch in a while. I'm at a phase where I prefer to find the best quality for the lowest price.

@@asianguitarmasta For great quality for the price I alway push a Citizen Promaster. Built like a tanks. You'll never need to replace batteries on the quartz watches and the automatics have great Miyota movements. Never spent more than $1000. Great watches.

^ happiness. Not joy. In my opinion

@@mkphilly I don’t “need” a chronograph or a dive watch, I like how they look, simple as that.

@@jtlast9600 It if makes you smile every time you look at it that is a good deal regardless of price.

@@johanvandersandt8904 completely agree. As long as you aren't going into debt, buy any watch you love if it catches your eye

Exactly

Thank you Rohan!

Would you say this is your grail watch video?

Only problem is all the nice watches Teddy showed that I suddenly need.

Yep, any aspirational material good will only satisfy for a limited amount of time.

I just need a few grails now

Agree

I think the problem is people are looking for contentment by buying things. But contentment is only reached by you yourself taking a different perspective when it comes to material items. We keep rinning after that carrot not knowing nothing we will ever buy will satisfy us in the way we hope.

@@mannycalavera2335 Oh definitely. For 5 years I wore my Omega Seamaster happily. Then I added a Reverso--and IMMEDIATELY I wanted a 3rd watch. And then 4th and 5th. At some point you gotta exercise restraint and say enough is enough, and not buy another watch unless you sell one to make room for it in the collection.

It's not quite because of the accuracy itself just for the sake of knowing the exact time, but because of the craftsmanship behind the accuracy. It takes craftsmanship and engineering to be accurate.

@@Sam-ob1yg I see what you’re saying. Patek has incredible craftsmanship along with accuracy. But then you have AP with incredible watches and unique movements that aren’t even as accurate as Rolex or Omega, even though AP is much more expensive. But personally I would take an AP over Rolex or Omega anyday.

@@ToneyDouglas23 Yeah exactly. It's like in cars: comfort vs straight line performance vs handling performance vs off-roading. They are just different dimensions of engineering problems, and you can bet that they all require extreme effort. If I may add, the even more (or just another) beautiful part is that these engineering problems often pose mutual exclusive goals (e.g. luxury costs weight/space, but that necessarily hurts other performance aspects), so solving multiple of these at the same time (albeit not as perfectly as one that would solve just one) is also beautiful to some people. Where that balance should fall is usually up to the beholder, so people aren't just being polite when they say it usually comes to personal "preference". It really is in fact personal preference (usually).

e.g. something as simple as making leather blue was an engineering marvel in the past, I bet. We take them for granted now, but if I really take a moment to try to do it myself from scratch, I wouldn't know where to begin.

And taking even one more step back, engineering/craftsmanship isn't all that brings value either. Looks are important too. At the end of the day, it's pretty simple IMO: does it make you smile.

As many say, it is as elusive as getting "one last tattoo" or "just one more piercing."

I have eight,haven't bought one in a while,and will probably never by another.Folding kives are another matter-have around thirty,and I keep running across someting new I want,thankfully they're not as expensive, most of mine are 100-300 dollars

In the UK you can still buy the old 1861 version new at retail price

With vintage though, the perception of scarcity is very much real. So I'm not sure I can envision pre-ceramic Rolexes decreasing in value. I can see them plateauing perhaps at some point (not that soon), but that's going to assume demand doesn't continue to rise while scarcity does. I'm looking for a birth year no date sub, and my watch guy has seven people ahead of me in line for one. They're never going to make that watch again, and people aren't interesting in flipping them anymore. They're just holding onto to them, which means scarcity is going up even further.

@@ams914 Oh that's part of it alright, but again fashion comes into it. Like I say early Rolex Oysters were a "hot" ticket in the vintage world and today you pretty much never hear about them. They barely sell and when they do it's at much lower values than back then and that's over twenty years ago. The "pre ceramic" tag itself is a current trend. Other issues are like you say non flipping actual collectors are holding onto stock, as are newer "investors" and dealers looking to ride the wave, so the market stagnates, because fewer and fewer people are willing to spend on the ones that do come up. This discourages newbies into the hobby. I've seen that with vintage military watches. Once they were a tiny very niche thing and pretty cheap. Then they were cool hunted by the hodinkees of the world and the two hundred quid pieces became 1000 and more and the supply was constrained. Then the same hodinkee type dealers started looking around to cool hunt less well known and desireable niches, because they were running out of stock to sell. 15 years ago 70's style vintage watches with a few exceptions were deeply unfashionable and now... You can see it on ebay over time. Niche hobby stage = lots of items for sale, prices reasonable, mostly auctions. Cool hunted and go mainstream= prices rise, more dealers and "investors" get involved more BIN listings. High watermark = high prices, nearly all dealers, few enough selling and majority BIN. Endgame = stagnant market. Brands come and go in popularity too. Ten years ago IWC were much more in vogue. Now, not nearly so much. TAG were huge at one point. Now they're a poor cousin, even derided. Not so long ago AP, PP etc were rarely seen on forums and the like, now they're all over the place. Franck Muller were extremely fashionable once and considerd top tier and now... Dress watches were once the thing, today... Moonphases were big too. Once. If you look at new/grey market Rolex today. Go onto Chrono24 and you can pick pretty much whatever "rare" steel Rolex you want, you just have to pay for it. They're actually not that rare at all. These aren't grand master artworks, they're mass produced consumer items, made in the millions per year. Just crazy prices driven by the market. marketing and flippers and dealers and the hype. Actual vintage is rarer alright, but as you say demand is high at the moment.

@@MrGrentch I think your logic all works, until you start applying it to vintage. Rolex has not diminished in popularity since it began. And newbies aren't supposed to buy 10k watches anyway, so it's not for them. I'm not sure what you mean about Rolex Oysters, but I'm guessing they came in 34mm case sizes. That's too small for modern watches, hence those models are not valuable. But anything in 40 still is, and the older the more valuable. Again, the only thing that can lower the value of vintage models is a lowering in demand for them, and since Rolex is the most notable and most equitable brand in the world, I don't see that happening unless mechanical watches as WHOLE are no longer desired, and I think we actually see the opposite happening, and a lot of that has to do with smart watches that got people used to time-telling devices on their wrist.

@@ams914 That's the thing Ams(and I do take your points on board), Rolex until the 1960's was almost entirely a brand of Britain and her empire/commonwealth. Look up American or European periodicals before that and the brand barely features, or doesn't feature at all. They have "Superlative Chronometer" on their dials(a trademark of theirs), but in the _actual_ Chronometer trials of the 20th century a "no name" brand of today like Movado blew them into the weeds and Omega, Longines and Zenith won more prizes in _one year_ at random than Rolex won in the _entire history_ of those trials(longines won the most). Seiko in the latter years made them look like bumpkins. Their movements were lacklustre, though tough, they couldn't do complications to save their lives and they bought in chronograph movements(though with the exception of Longines that was common enough. The Omega Speedy was a Lemania IIRC). They innovated... well I struggle to think of a major Swiss brand who innovated _less_ than Rolex. First waterproof/diver/modern diver/GMT/Date window/Automatic/Screwdown crown/etc All nope. Marketing? By God, yes. Hans Wilsdorf was a true giant of marketing and spotting and exploiting a market and that's an innovation and kudos in of itself and he was at that from the start and they learned well at his feet. Right down to today. TLDR? You're buying into the name. And that's a thing too and fair enough, but that's about it, or at least most of it.

@@MrGrentch I don't agree at all, which is fine, but all of this is off-topic. Your opinion of the brand itself has no bearing on its marketplace value or your claims about why the value of vintage models will decline. I don't think you laid out a case for that. I don't see a lowering of desired vintage models in value for decades, if not even longer.

I have the same questions. hope someone answers. :)

I cannot answer anything but the last. Automatic watches can be wound by hand and that is preferred if it ran out. As to wether it damages a watch to keep it running i would not know

That's how watch addicts usually talk.. Denial

check out this channel by Nico Leonard - he tried to destroy a G-Shock in one of his videos

This assumption has been tested already. Have you heard of the Big Bang?

I'm a sucker for small seconds as well, I have the Stowa marine 36, Hamilton khaki navy pioneer, and an Orient Star heritage gothic. Also just ordered a Dekla marine. Teddy sure didn't lie when he said there is no exit watch!

Haha! Indeed! Thanks and I’ll have a look at those!

Omega recently released an aqua Terra small seconds line

@@shanephillips8735 Thanks so much for the Hamilton Khaki Navy Pioneer! Just ordered one...it’s awesome!

@@chrisdavis8399 Nice one mate, enjoy in good health 🤙

Its pretty shitty, but its a reaction to people who buy those watches as investments and scoff at other watches which "wont hold their value".

wait what's wrong with a NDS

Don't mind the watch, Rolex is Rolex and the Submariners date or no date are iconic there is a reason there are so many Homages of that line. I just don't bother remarking on them when I see them in the flesh anymore because many owners don't know what they have, they just bought Rolex because it is Rolex.