I love this franchise, but one thing I really hate are the status spells. In every single one all the enemies I would want to cast the spells on are always immune to them and all the enemies that can be hit by them are always just regular enemies. Its so frustrating when I have this toolkit and it always ends up being a wasted turn 😣
@PumaFlare5 ай бұрын
Trust me,its working on alot of bosses too,it depends. They just sometimes have higher resist,only because it says „miss“,dosnt mean,hes immune
@80sForever295 ай бұрын
Using Sleep on Edea in FF8 is the only Boss I remember that It Works.
@tjseventyseven5 ай бұрын
@@80sForever29 poison on Seymour on gagazet is a big one too. also tent on gizamaluke in ff9
@cheffdonty5 ай бұрын
FF4 and 5 have more than a few bosses who are weak to specific ailments which is nice. You kind of have to know ahead of time though
@robertt.41765 ай бұрын
Ff13 series is an exception where status effects are super useful
@Wheels_tcw5 ай бұрын
Using Wakka's face for the thumbnail was a good choice.
@Ramsey276one5 ай бұрын
XD
@Drums_of_Liberation5 ай бұрын
I'm just saying, brudda. An spell that only targets Al-Bhed would be might useful, ya?-Grand Wizard Wakka
@yummychips_5 ай бұрын
got me
@hafizmohd82245 ай бұрын
Wakka:HMmm...!🤨🤨
@chemicalrevzz71425 ай бұрын
I was expecting osmose to pop up tbh
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme5 ай бұрын
The fact that I did not know Death had that animation in FFX says a lot about how useful it is.
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
It sucks because Death always has SICK animations in the 3D games, but instant death on weak mooks is always so not worth it, having a long animation for that just makes it worse. I feel bad for the spell animation team on that one, cause they do a bang up job with them every time.
@minokimakina8325 ай бұрын
It's probably the best death animation too, which is the real shame
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
@@minokimakina832 For sure, X's Death is amazing in how goddamn creepy it is. I wish that was a Mudo animation in Shin Megami Tensei so I'd actually see it more.
@setxjrichie97454 ай бұрын
Death is used against you a lot
@jamesputterlik2255 ай бұрын
For FFX, rather than casting death, you were much better off just modding deathstrike onto one of your weapons. If you did it to your tamer weapons, you could easily gather large numbers of fiends for the arena. Same for stonestrike.
@iRenz05 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly, rather than casting it, better off using status atk works way better imo spell casting was such a pain in the ass in ffix
@DragonNexus2 ай бұрын
Boy...I wish I'd thought of that.
@RobiN-ei2ih5 ай бұрын
The rule that the boss will always be immune to status effects made me miss out on FF7Remake actually having bosses susceptible to things like Stop, sleep, or Poison more often than not.
@mayleelove43325 ай бұрын
Yeah, learning I could just Stop the Behemoth was nice.
@kayrupe1255 ай бұрын
Cast stop as they hit stagger:)
@PaPaGonzo4 ай бұрын
me too
@frederickbingley66995 ай бұрын
If more enemies were legitimately susceptible to status the status spells could add so much versatility
@daviddalrymple22845 ай бұрын
Yeah. Most FF games have one or two bosses that are susceptible to one or more status ailments, but they are so few and far between that you'd never think to try unless you had a guide.
@frederickbingley66995 ай бұрын
@@daviddalrymple2284 yea and not better than good ol’ “attack” or a variety of high or mid level spells
@leegaul21615 ай бұрын
I often used Poison in Crisis Core, because it allowed me to distance myself from dangerous enemies yet still wittle their health down.
@Soumein5 ай бұрын
Or maybe we need less potent status effects, so that it's more feasible a boss can be hit by them. Or convoluted ways to get them to work, like with Level modifiers and the Lv X spells.
@HappyHeart352425 ай бұрын
Could at least deal a small amount of damage with status spells. That way it might not be ENTIRELY wasted.
@noahhobson45215 ай бұрын
In the original Final Fantasy, Pure was a fairly useless spell, not because it didn't work, but because for the amount of money it took to purchase it you could buy more pure potions than you would likely need in an average playthrough.
@ZenMonkeyGod5 ай бұрын
Plus grinding enough to rake in that much money you'd likely be leveled up enough to get by without it 😂 That game is so satisfying, every few battles you get a huge parade of level-ups in all your stats, way quicker than any other FF it seems
@Riftweaver19815 ай бұрын
@@ZenMonkeyGod leveling was fast in ff1? were you playing with some sort of xp boosting cheat or something? i mean its not horribly slow, but 'every few battles' is just not true at all
@ZenMonkeyGod5 ай бұрын
@Riftweaver1981 I didn't cheat at all. It's mostly getting to like level 15 or so, so I don't mean it's the whole game. But when you start the game and start grinding, I just felt like it didn't take me long to level up. I'm not even some expert player or anything, and believe me the game gets super hard about halfway through and leveling takes far longer.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
Even in the remakes nearly all but the Cure Petrify spells are crap the only reason Cure Stone/Petrify isn't crap is because of the high cost of the items that cure it.
@jfast82565 ай бұрын
@@Riftweaver1981 Yeah, it was super fast. Due to the way enemies encounters spawned on the map, in Pravoka, you could fight end game zombie bulls, ice wolves and nuke them with fire for massive level gains. 1 fight, go back and rest at inn. When I was a kid playing on the NES, I always fought in that area early game for quick levels.
@askthepizzaguy5 ай бұрын
I literally never used Lulu's death spell on any enemy. It either does absolutely nothing and wastes your magic, or you don't get an overkill. And a lot of enemies are immune to it by the time you get it. Deathstrike makes sense, at least you're doing damage with the weapon too.
@daviddalrymple22845 ай бұрын
Deathstrike was great for capturing enemies.
@digifreak905 ай бұрын
So, LOK2 in FF1 had the same problem as Focus Energy in gen 1 pokemon where, due to a coding error, it had the opposite of the intended effect. (For those who don't know, in Gen 1 pokemon (red/blue/yellow) the move Focus energy was meant to multiply the chance of a critical hit by 4, but instead it divided the crit chance by 4.
@tigerwarrior17875 ай бұрын
Which, funnily enough, was EXTREMELY useful in boosting stats in Gen 1. When you Crit in Gen 1, it works as you expect, dealing x2 normal damage, ignoring debuffs on the user and buffs on the target. However, due to programming errors, this also meant the user's buffs weren't calculated as well, nor target debuffs. So for those who know the code super well, critting is NOT a good thing with you have a Slobro who is Amnesia'd up, as you'd do less damage than intended. Being maxed out on Special (not including Badge Boosts, cuz Gen 1 is Gen 1 Jank), you'd normally hit for well over 4x damage without a crit, but only do x2 damage on an actual crit. Thus, for a very fast Pokemon that DOES learn stat boosting moves AND also learns Focus Energy, this is actually a win/win for maximum DPS, on paper. In practical terms, it's still a waste of a move slot. And probably a waste of a Pokemon.
@Rysskylt5 ай бұрын
Esuna in IX is even more useless too because Angel's Snack is so good.
@rhynelinker79225 ай бұрын
Preach brother!!!!!
@bangunprasetyo31645 ай бұрын
Yes, of course. This spell can save party in any situation Especialy fight Ozma.
@KPX015 ай бұрын
that and you can just equip skill to negate most effect.
@fernandozavaletabustos2055 ай бұрын
Wow!!!
@bangunprasetyo31645 ай бұрын
@@KPX01 no effect skill to negate mini and frog. Ozma has Curse to make inflict poison, slow, confuse, mini, darkness
@Boyzby5 ай бұрын
Seeing Physic pop up on the screen really put a smile on my face. It's hilarious how little it does, and I'm certain something like a Max Potion would heal more, uses no MP, and doesn't cost whoever uses it a GCD
@jaypro62695 ай бұрын
I personally think Summoners version of Physick should upgrade to something else to make it more useful. Maybe a strong regen effect, like Aurora.
@sweetdeal995 ай бұрын
There was also a point in the beginning where black mages could use it via cross class which was hilarious
@Aquilenne5 ай бұрын
At least up until recently it had an incredibly niche use of proccing divine veil in the event that absolutely nobody else was a better choice to do the job. Now it doesn't even do that.
@jakestavinsky34805 ай бұрын
Theres a super niche application i suppose. In 14 healing someone below 20% gives a ton of limit, summoners could spam heals to build limit i suppose@Aquilenne
@roetemeteor5 ай бұрын
It honestly should be changed to something like Physickia, where it instead is just an applicable regen with a 20 second duration and a 60 cool down. It scales with Int rather than mind, and is a 250 potency cure effect. That should make it where it heals like 3000 per tick for six ticks, or about 25% of someone's health bar. This equals a potion. Better for soloing or assisting a tank/healer in time of need, but not really diverting off the focus it has. It even combos with Phoenix.
@Mina_Angel5 ай бұрын
There was a mob in Final Fantasy XI that aggroed by scent. It was the Leech in Aht Urhgan expansion. It threw a lot of players for a loop at first.
@blackkkabllakkcaa5 ай бұрын
Didn’t know this
@Forever_Zero5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure this is a personal problem I have but I just never find myself using spells like Mini, Pig or Toad, I know they have their uses but I just find them too unreliable
@daviddalrymple22845 ай бұрын
In Final Fantasy VII, the only reason I use the Transform Materia is because you can master it fairly quickly and then the sell it for all the money you'll ever need.
@simplysolus89165 ай бұрын
Via the change staff is one of the few ways I found those useful, aside from when needing to cure myself of those debuffs as those spells cure said debuffs as well.
@james9700275 ай бұрын
Agree I simply see this as like "poisona" for the status itself as that's the only time I'll ever use them - I did recently play ff6 however and when accidentally casting you do notice some strong enemies are funnily weak to this but due to how easy it is to become OP in this game anyway it's that which reduces the need for status ailments.
@heyyoitsmebrian5 ай бұрын
@daviddalrymple2284 once i have Vincent and the added effect materia, i always put "transform/added effect" on his gun. I wouldn't waste a turn just using the spell, but its fairly effective added on to his attack
@Warcrafter45 ай бұрын
Its actually an issue with status effects in most RPGs of all types is having most important/dangerous enemies being immune to all status effects. Or the status effects have such a high chance of failing that its not worth trying to use them. So most RPG players never use status effects simply because they can't be used(Or fail) in 99% of fights that you would want to use them. Then in the 1% of fights you can you don't think to use them because they can't be used(Or are too unreliable) in every other fight in the game.
@chadd9905 ай бұрын
I'm playing ff5 on the gba right now, so I went to the spellbook to see if they were any useless spells. The one that stood out to me was Mute. It silences all allies and enemies. Not very handy if it silences your own party. Although I guess you could negate this by just wearing silence immunity gear, but also there probably aren't many fights if any where this spells is too helpful. Plus it's a time mage only spell. Probably not a top 10 useless spell, but worth mentioning I guess.
@Evan.132395 ай бұрын
FF5 actually has the fewest examples of truly useless spells from what I remember. Its magic system is fun to utilize because anything severely hampers the party in some way often has some way to either be completely negated or made inconsequential via different gameplay strategies. Even the typically useless spells all had at least one specific boss fight they could shine in. Mute, for example, works great if the main “mage” is a chemist or otherwise using Mix. It doesn’t prevent things like Mix or other skills from achieving the same results as magic by different methods so a party of physical attackers and a chemist can use Mute to shut down lots of problematic encounters.
@Jikkuryuu5 ай бұрын
Monsters being monsters, a lot of their dangerous abilities aren't magic so being muted doesn't even weaken them. In addition to that, I believe the spell casts successfully in most battles even if the enemy has a specific immunity to mute. In both cases you lose access to spells with no upside. If FF5 has one weakness it's that you can't see why your status spells don't work mid-battle. Status immunity? Magic Evasion? Spell failure rate? Nope, just MISS. I love the Remora summon, but it's a dual-ailment spell and spells that inflict multiple ailments fail if the enemy is immune to _one_ of those ailments. And a lot of enemies are immune to Sap or Paralysis. It's a great game regardless, but that's what I'd change if I could.
@chadd9905 ай бұрын
@@Evan.13239 This is my first time playing it since I was a kid, I'm really enjoying the vast customization. I'll play around with the builds more, and see if I can find some fun uses for mute.
@Evan.132395 ай бұрын
@@chadd990 I really hope you have a fantastic time playing the game, man! There are so many ways to play that game, and there's a ton of replay value with foreknowledge of what you'll be up against if you ever feel the itch for that sort of thing.
@rustyjones79085 ай бұрын
I was under the impression mute was bugged so it only affects the party
@agntzeroness5 ай бұрын
YES! So happy Physick was included. I am pretty sure I was one of the commenters on the other vid pointing it out lol. It’s so silly. Great list! Keep up the good work
@lukehogg85455 ай бұрын
Me at 8 years old *25 percent? Gravity is the best spell ever….. wait a minute…*
@promethiac26415 ай бұрын
Demi vs Diablo is about the only time I used it lol
@asahearts15 ай бұрын
Eh, it's alright so long as you're aware you're getting diminishing returns. Of course I didn't really know when to stop when I was a kid, so I overused it.
@chrisdrakin83195 ай бұрын
I used it in FFTA.
@Cman040925 ай бұрын
Its actually a badass spell, when enemy hp is above 40k, lol. But i definitely feel ya here, maths was harder as a kid, lol.
@angel__king5 ай бұрын
It’s good for maybe 2 casts but after that’s it’s better to just use holy or meteor
@cmswilliamcandy5 ай бұрын
Uh, if you don't think Deodorize had a purpose, you didn't play FF11.... There was shit that was blind that Deodorant or the Deodorize spell was the only way to get past them when necessary. Also, original FF11 you absolutely could not escape an enemy until you zoned out to another area. You used Deodorize to avoid enemies that tracked by scent primarily. Paired with Sneak and Invis it was the only way through shit.
@nickywoaht89714 ай бұрын
This.
@salami1555 ай бұрын
Shoutout to dragon warrior 1 sleep spell!! Best status spell I’ve ever seen in a jrpg. Good chance to sleep, good chance to not wake on hit, balanced by how important your MP resource is.
@justinwhite27255 ай бұрын
Definitely used sleep on a few late game bosses in DW4 too.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
The only problem with Sleep in a Dragon quest game are the TOO MANY ways to actually cause it making the actual spell worthless in fact theirs 0 MP cost SKILLS in Dragon Quest 7 that cause sleep and theirs like 4 to 5 of those sleep causing moves + the Sleep rod itself buyable during the Dharma Temple/Alltrades Abby scenario of DQ7 as well. But if the FF games I almost NEVER use it in the games after the first one.
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
@@veghesther3204 It's so funny how much Final Fantasy taints someone's view of offensive status ailment spells, or anything beyond basic damage and healing, really. You can give and take a lot of ailments in Dragon Quest and if you even attempt to play ANY Megami Tensei game without buffs (Persona included naturally), you're signing a death warrant.
@Kruggov5 ай бұрын
@@UltimaKeyMasterAdmittedly BUFFS are usually good in Final Fantasy, you want Protect/Shell/Haste in vast majority of boss fights, since they are cheap, save money on healing and generally last either a while or just for the entire fight. FF9 is about the only exception due to just how screwed buffs are in that game, the devs dropped the ball on that one. It's negative effects, aside from maybe Slow, along with Dispel that get the shaft. I'm glad that FF13 went the SMT route of "use buffs/debuffs or die horribly".
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
The funny thing about Sight in FF3 is that even though now we have World Map buttons (which...is weird they even did this at all when FF1 had a world map cheat code essentially) Sight actually does something different from the World Map button. Sight gives you access to the entire area's location markers. The World Map, however, only shows what you've been to before. And because 3 is not so much non-linear as it is a more open map to explore by the mid-game, it's more useful to have effectively a toggle between where you have and haven't been yet to have an idea of where to go next. Naturally, this concept is already made redundant by just looking up a map online, but the effort is appreciated for at least giving me a reason to not just alt-tab out of the game to look up a map the instant I'm not sure where to go next.
@jaytc92465 ай бұрын
FFXI context for Deodorize. Initially in the game mobs would chmace you across the entire zone never losing aggro. Onlybway to lose aggro is for YOU to either die or leave the zone completely through loading screen and loading into a new zone. Depending on the zone you could be being chased for 5 - 10 mins lol. Deodorize was a way to lose aggro early IF it tracked by smell. But many many maaaaaaany years later the put enemies on leashes so they stayed in their "area" and if you left the area they camped they would lose aggro. Making Deodorize even more useless
@zacheray4 ай бұрын
The extreme punishment of aggro in XI was hilarious. And getting sent to jail by GMs for creating trains was utter chaos and sometimes worth PKing campers. Not the proudest of times lol
@Vidious8085 ай бұрын
You had to zone out of the area to lose aggro from a monster in ff11. They will chase you until either you are dead or they are. Basically, if the mob got on you and you didn't get out of a zone, you were screwed. You can't just run a little bit away from a mob. You had to apply all sneak, invis, and deodorize before going through a dangerous area. You can attempt to cast spell when they are on you but the spells have a high chance of failing when you are being hit.
@ztdk5 ай бұрын
If the monster doesn't track by scent, it would lose track eventually and deaggro. And is there a point to pre-casting deoderize? It doesn't keep you from getting aggro and wears off if something takes a swing at you. I guess it might have a very niche edge case where you get spotted but keep out of range of any attempted attacks by a monster with no ranged abilities, but that isn't much of a contingency.
@Vidious8085 ай бұрын
@ztdk Apparently, they changed how mob leashes worked. This wasn't the case initially. When the game started, the mobs were relentless. That's where the famous /sh train to zone Inc started.
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
@@Vidious808 Even playing on private servers, it still feels ridiculous beyond belief the range their aggro zones are. It's like Xenoblade X levels of ridiculous zones.
@zacheray4 ай бұрын
Lol ‘Train inc’ Everyone groans Good times
@tjcihlar15 ай бұрын
It isn't final fantasy if I don't have 100 spells, but only use nuke.
@SaveTheSunF1R3x5 ай бұрын
"in final fantasy 11 you can just keep running until you escape" words that no one has said in the history of time 😂
@benstevens445 ай бұрын
Words I actually have said though: "I don't need Sneak, I have movement speed." You CAN hypothetically outrun mobs, at least nowadays, since most lose interest if they don't get to hit you for a certain amount of time... but base player speed has been boosted 25% or so from the launch level, and mobs are STILL pretty much exactly as fast as players, so... it's mostly only viable on casters that don't have Stun, Bind, Gravity, or Sleep. Unless you're trying to pull a whole room full of monsters to kill en masse. Then they'll despawn at the drop of a hat just to spite you.
@BahamutBreaker4 ай бұрын
Agreed, lol. Those words might have been spoken before, but not by anyone who seriously played FFXI. Here’s what running away from aggro enemies in FFXI ACTUALLY gets you: 1) probably dead, killed by the enemy that initially found you 2) definitely dead, killed by the horde of enemies that have the “linking” trait (meaning they join in the chase if an aggro enemy passes nearby) 3) a bunch of hate mail from other players, even if you somehow managed to flee, because now there’s a cluster of enemies piled up near a main road or chokepoint
@zacheray4 ай бұрын
When they added despawning, I knew the game was over. Inconvenience and chaos is FFXI 😂
@hagurusean5 ай бұрын
I loved when they removed Sustain from the SMN spell pool, while maintaining Physick as MND scaling only (for that small period of time). Your summons still took full single target damage, so if they were tanking they weren't very good at it.
@seanheath44925 ай бұрын
Wish they'd find a way to make Physick scale off of the higher of MND and INT. Or just let SMN get a replacement that scales from INT.
@miwakeiya5 ай бұрын
I hated how useless bio became in ff7 against bosses, most of them were either jenova, or a robot who were immune to poison…
@eversondecarvalho62555 ай бұрын
I think that in the final fantasy franchise most of the spells that grant negative states to enemies are useless most of the time, often the effects don't take the effect the first time that spell is used and the player has to use multiple rounds of the same spell to get the enemy to take effect, where It often doesn't make much difference in the battle and only lasts a short time. This is if the monster is not immune, often requiring a scan-type ability to identify the enemy's weaknesses and immunity. In other words, it is more worthwhile to use positive state magic on characters and use offensive attacks than to waste time with this type of magic .
@BahamutBreaker4 ай бұрын
Absolutely true. With some (rare) exceptions, attack magic, healing magic, and enhancing magic are all much, much more practical than enfeebling magic.
@dctaylor4805 ай бұрын
It bummed me out when I made Lulu redundant by giving Yuna black magic.
@xheralt5 ай бұрын
Demi was nerfed the hardest in FFX. You acquired it late, and damn near everything with high HP totals that even 1 casting would be useful against (boss, miniboss, or arena fiend) were ALL IMMUNE.
@theodorehunter47655 ай бұрын
I'd like to defend FF8's Float spell. Quake is a less common spell in FF8, and it is also a powerful spell for Junctioning. Junctioning Quake to Elemental Defense is kind of a waste, when you could Junction it to something like Strength for a more consistently useful effect. Granted, Float has always been kinda niche, as it only helps against Earth based attacks.
@esthe95885 ай бұрын
i remember only using it against the brothers gf battle
@DaikoruArtwin5 ай бұрын
Despite Physick not healing enough as Summoner in FF14, I still kept it on my hotkey. Two reasons: - Just for having fun around. Doing 200 heals on someone with 100000 HP feels that much more hilarious. - The spell is still a very good spell in low level sync. Typically you just leave the job to a Healer, but when the Healer is dead or you somehow don't even have a healer, this still offers good healing. In particular, this lets you get through early Palace of the Dead floors very safely, which is a big advantage over other DPS classes.
@thegaymingavenger5 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting to see my comment in the intro but I'm stoked it's there 🎉
@MoniqueBoulangerMSG5 ай бұрын
Physik is Paw Patrol Bandaid for SMN.
@hygeslevanaj87695 ай бұрын
That 12 on death fury blew my mind
@jamesmayo95335 ай бұрын
Death is super usefull in FFX! Not the spell, the deathstrike ability you can put on a capture weapon. It makes getting aurons sigil so much easier. Mix it up with stone strike on another character's capture weapon.
@JebAlert5 ай бұрын
That's exactly what makes it useless as a spell. You will get access to deathstrike/deathtouch long before you actually get access to the spell itself. The status effect is situationally useful, the spell itself is not.
@jamesmayo95335 ай бұрын
@JebAlert thank you, Timon.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
Same with Petrify strike I believe that skill can be used in FFX BEFORE the actual Break spell can be used and the break spell is still crap.
@JebAlert5 ай бұрын
@@veghesther3204 Honestly I forgot the break spell even existed in FFX until just now. 😆 Yeah, you can get stone strike on Wakka's weapons ridiculously early just like Lulu's deathtouch.
@FantogemeStudios5 ай бұрын
Physick is particularly annoying because you can't really remove it from your hotbar.. if you're in a lower level synced dungeon, that's the only healing spell you have available as a Scholar - outside of your Fairy assistant anyway.. which may or may not be ideal all the time.
@jezixhylus33705 ай бұрын
I don’t recall if it had been mentioned before, but in FF XIV, Astrologian’s “Undraw” skill is absolutely useless. It removes a drawn card from the slot. Nothing else. You would be better off just holding the card until Draw comes back up, and replace the card that way.
@NicoleMarie.5 ай бұрын
I really hope they go back to the basics- I loved figuring out combos, cures, and easy deaths with the manual systems. Death, FFX: I believe there is a sphere that can jump you to anyone’s position, possibly another one that can move you as long as it was unlocked. There is so much more to do with damage, weapons, and equipment in this game for power, overkill, and defense. FF9: You can learn White Wind pretty early with Quina
@revya42945 ай бұрын
I think my favorite moment when using a mediocre spell like poison was in final fantasy 13-2 vs Yomi. It actually felt like a neat new route to defeat it yet it isn’t a way to kill it in two seconds. You still had to survive to win the battle
@daviddalrymple22845 ай бұрын
I loved that battle. It's frustrating when you get back luck with poison not sticking, but it's so satisfying when it does go down. And that tight strategy made it fun to keep fighting Yomi dozens of times in order to get rare drops for weapon crafting.
@BVAutoService5 ай бұрын
You think that's bad? I tried to sell ice to Eskimos.
@Karn00105 ай бұрын
To be fair physik is pretty much near useless on SCH too. Unless shit hits the fan you've got so many other tools to use..
@rainfallen75745 ай бұрын
Physick is good up until like. 60 at Best. Using it at 90 def means shit hit the fan 😂 you're totally right, cuz we got so much other stuff in our kit
@Namo-xx1sz5 ай бұрын
then you take ffx where, by the end of it / side stuff, litteraly ALL spells become useless xD
@JebAlert5 ай бұрын
I feel like Drain has been useless in nearly every single game it has been implemented in. It sounds great in theory, doing damage while healing at the same time, but in almost all cases the returns on both healing and damage are so minimal and situational combined with its often comparatively high MP cost you are better off just casting a healing and damage spell over two turns instead.
@saphcal5 ай бұрын
yeah it often is. iirc you could use it junctioned to status attack in FF8 to drain on hit which was its only real use lol
@chadd9905 ай бұрын
Yeah, and in ff5 if you get the Dragoon job, you can use the lance ability to steal hp and mp from a target. Since it's a standalone ability, you can put lance on a mage after you've unlocked it.
@lynxfresh52145 ай бұрын
What's funny in Final Fantasy Tactics, Draining abilities/spells were busted due to doing fixed damage based on the targets max hp (as a result it literally made the final boss a joke). Perhaps there's a reason Drain is so bad in most other FF games.
@saphcal5 ай бұрын
@@lynxfresh5214 id rather stuff be op than useless, in single player games. let me effortlessly stomp everything (in more ways). im gonna overlevel and do it anyways might as well let me have fun while doing it.
@elijahjamez4525 ай бұрын
2:54 getting 11 of something with lulus overdrive crazy
@zidaryn5 ай бұрын
Video Idea: Spells/Abilities that people thought were useless but were actually overpowered. Example: Mix from FF X. Math from FFT. etc.
@potatomatop93265 ай бұрын
Next: the skill that makes all the other skills useless. And that's Math Skill from FF Tactics.
@rustyjones79085 ай бұрын
It's somewhat balanced by the fact you have to learn those abilities first. Takes a long time to train up a math skill user.
@potatomatop93265 ай бұрын
@@rustyjones7908 I can master all character jobs in less than 2 hours.
@CarlJohanvonGegerfelt5 ай бұрын
Physick is an arcanist skill. It used to have a usecase for summoners back in the days when pets had HP.
@Magus12000BC5 ай бұрын
The FF4 Sight spell is actually useful in the Pixel Remaster if you're achievement hunting. You have to visit all optional areas, defeat every creature, and obtain every item and chest. And Sight served as a checklist to where you've been and what you've gotten. It was also doubly important when you realized that there were a handful of areas that you could only visit once. So Sight helped ease a lot of heartache trying to 100% the game.
@baronagony47675 ай бұрын
All the spells on the barrier materia in ff 7 since you'd have the big guard enemy skill long before then
@brianmckee22675 ай бұрын
Only if you knew where to get it, prior to the Internet that wasn't a given
@Kruggov5 ай бұрын
Tbh the Barrier materia also has Reflect, for what it's worth. And Shield.... thogh that might be its own materia and not on Barrier.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
Barrier only has Reflect and the physical and spell barrier spells but even on Wait mode FASTEST battle speed Big Guard is still useless it won't even last then for even 1 minute and most NON boss fights in FF7 don't even LAST that long once Big Guard can be used especially with all the PS4 remaster cheats ie infinite HP/MP/Limit breaks and the 3x speed cheat.
@Kruggov5 ай бұрын
Big Guard also provides Haste, don't forget that. And cheats are generally not counted since they are... cheats. Nothing can hurt you if you cheat.
@rustyjones79085 ай бұрын
@@Kruggov Dude, it's veghesther. Don't take him seriously, he's got mental issues and has been doing this for 20+ years.
@nunyabusiness90135 ай бұрын
I believe it was either FF6 or FF7, but there was an exploit that made the death spell a garenteed hit. You simply cast invisibility on the enemies/boss first. Invisibility would make any spell cast on the invisible target a garenteed hit.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
Its FF6 PS1/SNES version only + the Rhodox rage on those 2 versions to kill Intangirs instantly without seeing its Meteo counters ALMOST any spell the useless Ragnarok Esper effect does NOT = 100% chances on the SNES/PS1 version if you vanish the target before summoning it so the Esper itself even WITHOUT the Vanish and Doom bug is still worthless since it almost NEVER works.
@CptChrispy5 ай бұрын
7:34 What is that party??!!!
@zXDeadKennyXz5 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure that’s the Pig status effect.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
Which in FF4 is nearly as useless if YOUR NOT the enemies are using it.
@njdss45 ай бұрын
I wish the FF14 devs would just make Physick scale off of INT or MND, whichever was higher. That way, Summoner could cast a useful heal in a pinch if needed, kinda like how Elemental Shaman in WoW used to be able to toss out a Healing Wave or a Chain Heal that wasn't complete garbage.
@Odin20035 ай бұрын
In FFXI, deodorize was used before they fixed or changed how aggro would work. Before a mob would not lose aggro so easily. A whole party would wipe in the dunes from someone aggroing a mob. If any of the players would pull any aggro onto themselves such as: a WHM tossing a cure spell onto the player who initially got aggroed, the whm now has generated hate onto himself. If the mob did not turn and engage on the whm, it would be able to deodorize and run out of visual range to remove any hate it had generated and thus deaggroing... Once this mechanic got patched, the use of deodorize had no use. Mobs deaggroed much faster, and they dissapear once it deagroed, before they would walk the whole map till they arrived at their spawn point, causing chaos and destruction along the way for any other poor party that took 3 hours to form and quickly disband 😅
@zacheray4 ай бұрын
The words ‘dune wipe’ are straight PTSD man. Could you censor that for public health?
@darthgogo69115 ай бұрын
most of ff1 spells just dont work so it wins
@reinatycoon36445 ай бұрын
Yeah sadly in the original NES version and the Origins remake the silly game makers left the INT stat useless and broken. Plus the bugged spell effects galore. Then in the other remakes they implemented a working INT stat but then added stronger final weapons for the physical classes AGAIN nerfing mages!! Ugh I cannot stand the dev teams for ALL FF1 remakes!!!!! The only good way to experience FF1 is a romhacked NES rom from like AstralEsper or something.
@namedhuman58704 ай бұрын
FF has a problem with magic. When you fet a spell, if leveling with the story, the monsters become immune so quickly or it is so useless that the enemy is easier to kill with physical attacks.
@Dajudge065 ай бұрын
I call hax on that Lulu clip, getting a full 13 on overdrive? I dont think so xD
@Ramsey276one5 ай бұрын
Isn't it stat-bases? Or am I remembering wrong...
@Dajudge065 ай бұрын
@@Ramsey276one It's based on the rotation of the joystick, never heard of stats affecting it.
@lilmagez5 ай бұрын
To be fair the jobs that COULD cast Deodorize were those that had access to ways to prevent the monster from moving. Things like Gravity, Sleep, Repose and Bind. All of which would allow you to cast the spell and reapply sneak/invis and move on. Deoderize was nice cause you didn't get risked bopped again while traveling through dangerous territory. Of course no one really knew what was going on back then and what monsters even tracked my scent.
@recht_voor_zijn_raap55065 ай бұрын
Pretty much every version of bio or a similar poison spell. Most bosses are immune to them and regular enemies are way easier to take down with other more useful spells.
@ElysiaTH5 ай бұрын
Bio is legitimately amazing in FF4 though. Literally nothing in the game is immune to it, and it inflicts a bunch of damage on top of causing its status, *and* it has an instant cast time in a game where almost every other spell takes time after inputting the command to actually cast.
@azinyefantasy44455 ай бұрын
Cast poison and haste on an enemy and defend every turn till you think it is near death and love tap to victory. Mostly used for low level runs of the game.
@shane14895 ай бұрын
Piggy, toad, and mini gotta be 3 worst.
@daveedwards46814 ай бұрын
Was surprised to see Maelstrom wasn’t on either list representing FF8
@davids29775 ай бұрын
FFXI's Deodorized has a purpose! SKILL UPS!!
@rightwing7074 ай бұрын
Physick at least has use cases in non-standard content. I kept a RPR alive in BA with it after the healer got clipped by a cleave and died during the Ozma fight. It's not the worst thing to have in deep dungeons when you step on a mine or open a trap chest. The issue with it is that it scales of Mind instead of Int like Red Mage's Vercure does so it heals for almost nothing in regular content. It's never left my tertiary bar though as it has fringe use cases and up until about level 40 duties, it's a solid heal in a panic situation.
@yonathanwinarto56555 ай бұрын
How about characters that are useless, for example Amarant
@Asako_Gaming5 ай бұрын
Really Physick is what 14 players think is the most useless. Repose literally has done nothing since 2013 and it's still in the game.
@FFKpar5 ай бұрын
I have Physick on my SMN bar. Take that!
@CirnoFairy5 ай бұрын
Why?
@FFKpar5 ай бұрын
@@CirnoFairyMemes mostly but I've also used it as a latency test between pulls if I'm noticing lag.
@sur79695 ай бұрын
* casually drops a (1) physics to that DPS with less than 10% on alliance raid * " youre welcome"
@Mito3835 ай бұрын
If you ever do a "almost completely useless skills" list, then Aim+20 from FFT totally deserves to be on it.
@Killgore524 ай бұрын
I remember junctioning "Death" to squal's sword in FF8 and it would kill everything. It was actually really useful.
@Exobably5 ай бұрын
I thought I remembered the original SNES release of FFIV (aka FF2 lol) just sort of zooming out the screen slightly when Sight was cast, which was really only useful prior to getting the airship. I'm second guessing myself now though 😅
@daviddalrymple22845 ай бұрын
Your memory is correct; that's exactly how it worked in the SNES version. It was marginally useful for avoiding dead ends on the way to Fabul Castle from Mt. Hobs, but that was it.
@markellzey15315 ай бұрын
Death has always been a stupid spell in my opinion. If it works, it's a 1 hit kill and that's boring. If it doesn't work(which is a high percentage of the time), then it's a wasted turn.
@auradmg5 ай бұрын
It's been a while since I played FFXI so I might be wrong, but I thought Deodorise was useful because if you were sneaking around enemies while invisible, they would still detect your scent. It made getting around high-level areas or just avoiding fights while getting around much easier.
@SaveTheSunF1R3x5 ай бұрын
Yea most of the time you used all 3.
@braskasguardian5 ай бұрын
No mobs can only aggro to one or more of sight, sound, low hp, magic or ability use... deodorise was used if you could sleep or bind a mob then run far enough away to ensure it can't chase beyond sound and sight ranges
@genisay5 ай бұрын
I would say Physic and Cure 1 suffer the same problem, but you can't really just not have them on your hot bar because if you go back to older content, like dungeon roulettes, you will still need it because you will lose access to your other spells. It does make it kind of wierd though that White Mage pretty much stops using Cure I when they get access to Cure II
@chrismanuel97685 ай бұрын
Biggest problem with FF14 is how bloated the skill list is for every character with either niche or useless spells and abilities. I swear they should all be cut in half, and you'd literally see no change in gameplay
@xpainlessxyz5 ай бұрын
Imagine a summoner in FFXIV casts physics at lvl 30+ 😂😂😂
@ChargeJN5 ай бұрын
sleep in ffxiv is pretty useless when enemies will wake up after a single attack. the only possible use i can think of is against a tough enemy next to a destination where you need to “use” it for 5 seconds to trigger a cutscene or some crap
@yoso3785 ай бұрын
This is less "sleep is useless" and more "FF14 doesn't give you any opportunities/reasons to take advantage of crowd control spells". Sleep in FF11 has the same mechanics but is incredibly important because it's necessary to lower the pressure on the party in tougher encounters, at least during its heyday.
@auradmg5 ай бұрын
It's very useful for removing certain enemies from a fight that aren't a priority to kill right away but still make things difficult. Like if you're fighting a group that has a lot of party roles covered, you can sleep the healer to focus on the DPS or vice versa. It suits methodical parties. Some bosses have a mechanic where two enemies must be kept a good distance apart, so you can sleep one and pull the other away instead of having someone take over tank duties on the second.
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
@@yoso378 That's definitely down to how 14 is designed. 11 is an old-ass MMO where 1v1 fights can manage to be deadly if you're not prepared, so it's so much more useful back then. 14...you're either running around kinda pointlessly open zones that you're already perfectly or over leveled to, or it's a hallway dungeon where the only enemies you fight are in like packs of 5 everyone mows down with AOE damage cause they're all focused on a tank that's constantly topped off by the healer that from certain class mechanics have effectively infinite MP for a mob fight. It's extra useless now when it's *only* Magic DPS classes and no more cross class skills. And one of those classes unlocks at *Level 50* , so you *really* don't need to be running from enemies by the time you get them.
@karasutsuki17335 ай бұрын
Think uve underestimated how bad SMN Physick is, it stops being noticeable healing around 35, not to mention u never rly need it there anyway. Its kinda stuck at 350-400 hp restored all the way to lvl90, where jobs have 80-90k hp, Tanks even reach 130k, a 500hp heal wont make a dent
@invisi-bullexploration23745 ай бұрын
Yeah, Quina's 'Angel Snack' blue magic is INSANE and trivializes the final boss battle. Making Esuna especially obsolete.
@Valerius1235 ай бұрын
FFXI enemies could aggro based on sight, sound, magic *and* blood (low hp) and for the longest time the effect time of invisible, sneak and deodorize was random. It was only much much later they were given a solid 10min timer. A lot of times these effects would start wearing off almost instantly after being cast. This is why party members were often encouraged by white mages etc to bring their own items (sneak oils and prism powders) so the whm didn't have to constantly be casting in dangerous situation.
@Volumixen5 ай бұрын
I am not going to repeat my reasons, but Doomsday was very limited in utility, especially since it can be made deadly to a party, even one with Shadow Absorbing gear, if Vivi has the ability Element Null, and especially if both Elem-Null and Reflect Null are equipped. I get the reason behind Esuna, but Doomsday is just given too late to even get much of a chance to utilize it. Edited for the reason that I said the wrong spell name.
@mechanical-scarecrow30645 ай бұрын
I've played ffix more times than I can even remember at this point and I agree. I never used doomsday.
@veghesther32045 ай бұрын
I love it in fact when Kuja final dungeon loves to spam like 3000+ damage Flare stars EVERY TURN at lv 75+ and I NEVER had it miss the best way to recover from that damage is via Doomsday the actual CURE 3 spells when used on a entire lv 75+ party restores LESS HP then his Flare star does.
@PawsOfFate4 ай бұрын
The Death spell in FFX was so redundant that I forgot it even existed! Yikes...
@Cman040925 ай бұрын
Deoderise was only included to subtlety remind the players that they might be stinky after playing for hours on end. That was it's one and only usefulness, and i applaud SE for their insight and kind gesture here. Gamers can be some really stinky mofos afterall.
@apljack5 ай бұрын
To add a bit of a burn on Physick for Summoners is that they just this expansion completely reworked the job. Changed essentially the whole kit, and left in the useless version of Physick.
@thetypicaljoe16744 ай бұрын
Keep up the high quality works! 👍👍👍 (Writing AND video editing!!! 👍👍👍)
@Kyojinsei4 ай бұрын
We all know this, how "Life" in FFXI is probably the best spell for one reason and many more, but that it'll 1 shot the Ilfa tree boss, and save you time in doing so on a 12h playthrough
@Rideps15 ай бұрын
I'll never forget the day I solo'd more than half of Fenrir's health as Black Mage by keeping myself alive with cross class Physic. But it still belongs here.
@pyro51595 ай бұрын
Physick stopped being useful the moment pets lost their hp bars
@Trelior5 ай бұрын
You would think that with the SMN rebalance with Endwalker, they would have split it into a DPS version and Healer version. They did it for Energy Drain! SMN and SCH both still get it, but its effects are different, and the tool tip even differentiates them! Sure, making SMN physick scale off of intelligence would bring it in line with Vercure for RDM, but if you're in a situation where you need to use Vercure, something has likely gone HORRIBLY wrong.
@rainfallen75745 ай бұрын
I vercure myself because I'm usually right after my burst and I'm a dumb dumb and probably ate a raidwide
@Trelior5 ай бұрын
@@rainfallen7574 I tend to use Vercure if a fight ends and I have a dangling dualcast stack. I fling it at the tank or healer, just because I want rid of it. The only other time I use Vercure in a party is if I'm trying to prime Verraise.
@eekcast5 ай бұрын
Deodorize may not have been that useful, but it was always good to use on that one Galka that smelled bad after hours of partying!
@benstevens445 ай бұрын
That was the true purpose of it - insulting your party members.
@aereiq5 ай бұрын
If we are allowed to use Blue magic, then perhaps 1000 needles is one of weak ones... At least when enemy starts go over 5000 hp and enemy starts having deadlier spells or skills. Another could be ff9 Zidane's lucky seven since it has very random damage, not to mention there are spells that actually do more damage later on.
@spamoholic20244 ай бұрын
In my opinion, Esuna still has some help to you in FF9, Break on other hand... yeah it petrifies the enemy, but also, almost every boss is immune against petrify, and even if you encounter a difficult enemy, it's better to use stop or death, cause you gain no EXP or Gil after using break on the enemy.
@SolstaceWintersАй бұрын
You ever cast Reflect? It's in most games and it just.... sits there.... in your spell list..... taking space. It has the audacity to make me have to scroll past it, the nerve. Hell, there's a whole _SUMMON_ dedicated to the bloody spell, and because the spell's so unstable, they can't come up with a consistent design for the Summon!
@SakuraSamael4 ай бұрын
Status spells in FFX were almost entirely useless on their own, but status touch/strike weapons (and Wakka's status attacks, really) are where the application shined. The physically weaker characters could become power players with the right setup. Even if you were just rotating them in for EXP, having them attack and ruin a fiend's day with a Deathstrike at least gave them some utility when they weren't needed for their regular roles (like white/black magic). Defending is faster for rotating people in, yes, but I always preferred my party to do something useful.
@kanrakucheese5 ай бұрын
Dishonorable mention to Sabin's later blitzes because unless you know from outside info, you'll *never* realize they're "spells" (based on magic) and build him as a physical user.
@calvinmatthews15275 ай бұрын
Jewel from FFIX. Harvesting ore from a single enemy? Ore just so common as drop in that game, what's the point? The amount of ore increases the damage your summons does based a certain calculation, but it's really not that helpful since the damage is capped at 9,999 and this game has no multi-hits. So, by the time Eiko gets this spell, yeah, it's not good. Even the wiki points out how useless this spell is.
@Prinygod5 ай бұрын
That was in the original video
@badroad10005 ай бұрын
Lock and Lok2 *would* have made enemies harder to hit in FF1 if stat modifications worked on enemies at all. While enemy stats were loaded into RAM at the start of battle and modifications are applied to the values in RAM, actual attacks check the enemy stats in ROM which by definition can't be modified. So the bug that would've made Lock and Lok2 actively harmful is negated by the bug that makes them merely useless.
@Robotron2084psn5 ай бұрын
Respect for covering XI
@R.Yamasaki3375 ай бұрын
In FFXI you could use deodorize to stay at low HP near undead that would blood aggro (detect low HP). BUT the MAIN use of deodorize was to cast it on stinky Galkas.
@zacheray4 ай бұрын
I befriended one Galka in my many years of playing FFXI. Their plight is regrettable
@mistermysteryman1075 ай бұрын
If it ain’t part of the cure line, fire/ice/lightning line, or summon line, I ain’t casting it.
@Zzzlol945 ай бұрын
Scathe for BLM in FFXIV is the most useless damage dealing ability. It is also one of, if not the ONLY DD ability left in the game from 2.0 which has not seen a single change in its function or potency, only a change in MP cost to fit the new MP system. 100 potency with a 20% chance of double potency, no cast time costing 800MP. In comparison with Fire IV which will deal the most damage over a fight, Scathe does on average 1/5th of the damage. And in comparison to the weakest ability commonly used, a 30% weakened Blizzard III while in Astral Fire 3, it does half the damage. It only has a single use. If you have run out of swiftcast/triplecast/other instant cast abilities or procs, you MIGHT use it. Even then, any good player will never use it and most average and bad players will most likely forget to use it, because if you're able to cast literally any other damage spell, that will do more damage instead. If you use it while in the Astral Fire stance, it will make you lose out on DPS by not being able to cast 6 Fire IV in a normal rotation and forcing you into the Umbral Ice stance faster. As a BLM main who does all and any end-game content, the amount of times I have used Scathe the entirety of the Endwalker expansion, I could probably count on one hand. Even then I don't remember why I would even use it, as the only way is that I must've messed something royally up. I have to go back to Heavensward and the Alexander Savage raids to remember an actual use for it. A7S and the magic hammer mechanic comes to mind, because BLM only had Swiftcast and random procs for instant cast damage spells, other than Scathe.
@NabsterHax5 ай бұрын
I see this take all the time but I don't agree with it at all. I love Scathe at low levels. I used it constantly to finish off enemies that would die before I finished another cast. It's also just a neat little utility spell for tagging enemies while you're running around before grouping them up. In unsynched duties where you're one-shotting things anyway, it's also helpful. Especially if you're with other players that would make it a complete waste of time starting casts on anything. Yeah, it's pretty useless in endgame content. But without scathe I'd be having a miserable time trying to tag any low HP mobs in a busy FATE.
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
Scathe is nice when you haven't upgraded to Black Mage yet so you don't need to wait for one last spell cast to get an overworld exp bump.
@goverlord5 ай бұрын
this franchise is the reason I almost never bother with status spells in any game I play. I've had to train myself to use them in Shin Megami Tensei games, and it was a struggle.
@ElricSowrd5 ай бұрын
It's been a longtime. Also, that Wakka face. LOL 😆 What about Ultima from Final Fantasy II?
@ChargeJN5 ай бұрын
he mentioned it in the first video
@UltimaKeyMaster5 ай бұрын
Given this is a Commenter video about more niche examples, I'm willing to bet the main video had that as the peak example. Since other than FF1 NES' litany of bugs, that's the most infamous spell of the entire franchise.