This is all anyone needs.

LONG LIVE DUKE LETO!!!!!!

nodinitiative do not point your gun at me Gerny!

'you young pup'

I wish you had not said that, because now I have expectations that will not be met.

That sounds great, but wouldn't Dune Messiah fall a little short?

Maybe even movie trilogies per book

This would be THE DREAM.

Nerdist no mention of the 12 hour Dune and Children of Dune movies Syfi did 10 years ago they to had problems but yall act like they don't exist.

Loved both those mini series. Much closer to the mark as far as the books are concerned.

According to the recent documentary, Jodorowsky had no real sense of budgeting and would've bankrupted a studio; this despite the fact he was a visionary. I'd rather see Dune as a 13 or 26 episode series that would be on Netflix or HBO. Certainly not a miniseries or movie. And definitely NOT with the narration that was stuck in the beginning of David Lynch's film. I've read the book a couple of times and it deserves more than a casual treatment.

If I am not mistaken, the whole idea about "killing" Paul was that we (or the fremen) are all Muad'dib or that we are all one. That said, I do believe that Jodorowsky had great ideas about the movie, but when I finished the documentary about that I realized that the world is a better place without it, and we should keep it as "the best movie never made".

The only reason i wanted that movie to be made was because of H.R. Giger concept art, now that i know more about it, i want it to remain only as concept art too

Alejandro Jodorowsky did read the book.

According to the documentary...and at the time of him writing his screenplay...he had not. Perhaps he has in the intervening years, but he made no indication of that in the documentary.

no way you could do it.. you could have cecil b demill.. without 6 hours.. its not happening right.

...and I agree...Jodorowsky or nobody!

HBO already made a Dune mini-series.

No, that was the Sci-Fi channel.

Jodorosky or whatever the fuck his name is can stay 100 miles away from Dune FOREVERRRRR. he basically looked at the book and said fuck this I'll do my own thing. He has no respect for the original material.... There's a reason he didn't get the movie project: it wasn't Dune.

We all want everything to go to HBO, Marvel, Netflix or some combo of them at this point.

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Preacher At Arrakeen or take out boxes

Yeah, that all needs to be redone. They came up with decent concept art for them in the video games, but it was 1990s level graphics. They can be filled in and given detail, but the video games kept the styling of the Lynch production and corrected some stuff.

That reminds me. Where the hell went the Rendezvous with Rama film? ...wasn't that in production at some point? I wanna see Ornithopters that aren't jacked up too!

Rama as far as I can tell, has never been in production. It has only been a wish of Morgan Freeman. He says he still is trying to get it made but I have my doubts that it will. Anyway, like Dune, I doubt that it could be made into a movie for the general audience. In the book, there isn't really a whole lot that goes on until the end. It's mostly a lot of exploration. It's good on book but as a film, it would need a lot of punching up to keep the general audience interested. It isn't until the 2nd book and later that things start to pick up and would be more accessible as a movie. On a related note...Do you think the space probe in Star Trek IV was inspired by Rama? :)

oh no i dont want to watch so screen much or do i xD

ZHARR yes, however The Lord of the Rings managed ok with 3 movies - could've been more, but it was better than in just one movie, as the earlier trash Dune did.

I would be afraid that it would become game of thrones in space,if HBO did it.

Yes!!!! That’s the only way it’ll get the depth and treatment it deserves.

Joy Castle depth and treatment? Game of thrones didn’t even get that...

Shai Hulud...

"I will not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total annihilation. I will face my fear. I will allow it to run over me and through me and when it is gone I will turn my inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing left. Only I will remain."

"Bi-lal kaifa."

I'll be your back-door man. Those were an abomination.

Lots of things broken in the '84 Dune unfortunately - stunning visually, but the script was a travesty. I was too young at the time to have read the book, but read it a few years later and then I got why it made fans so angry.

They turned what was a blend of martial arts and mental powers into a box on your throat that turned your voice into a sonic weapon. It was like they turned the Force into a remote to hack computers.

wait, the pustules, the spitting and the crushed frog drinking weren't enough already?

The weirding module was THE reason the movie sucked

Erikjust truth

This! I made a similar point above but I'll copy here to emphasize my agreement: Jodorowsky would never stick to the books. His vision was far FAR different from what West wrote. Lynch's version at least stuck with most of the major plot points. Jodorowsky would have butchered it and reimagined a universe vastly different. I never understood Dune nerds who complained about the Lynch version straying off the path yet stand in awe of Jodorowsky when he would have taken the series and leapt off a cliff.

Erikjust YASSS! INCAL!

I totally have to agree. I first saw the Lynch movie and loved it so much, I read the book when I was 13. Since then, I read the book every year, it is my fave. I still love the Lynch movie, which, as you put it, stuck with major plot points. Jodorowsky's version was flat out nuts! For goodness sake, he was going to make Duke Leto have no man parts and Jessica was gonna take a drop of his blood and make a baby inside her with that. That's NUTS! Not to mention all of the other bizarre changes he was going to make to the story. After I watched the documentary, I was so happy he didn't make the movie.

Metabarons is in fact his answer to not getting this movie off the ground...

He who controls a thing can destroy a thing.

I thought it was the other way around: He who can destroy a thing, controls that things. Maybe both are correct!

Miquel Vico Only on the sands, specifically worm territory. They used them for settlements.

Know, but part of the fun about dune is how this little fact about the local fauna turns centuries old military technology and tactics upside-down, and how Paul's ability to adapt to the new idiosyncrasy of war brings an empire to it's knees.

I would like to see them using the proper laser weapons from the book and the effects hitting a shield has. It was explosive iirc

Very explosive. Also, Paul's familiarity with the slow movements of fighting with shields were actually something of a sore spot when he engaged in a duel with one of the fremen, since they all felt he was mocking them.

More like they felt he was playing with the one he was duelling with

And a hood to contain head perspiration!

Good call.

I think you might be referring to the Cryo one... Dune (Cryo - Adventure/Strategy) and Dune II (Westwood - Real Time Strategy) were both published in 1992 by Virgin. If it is Dune (Cryo) you are referring to then Yes!!! I am frantically agreeing with you :) There was something special with that game that just felt right to me, I think it had exactly the right atmosphere for Dune and was extremely memorable to me. I still remember the great music that came on when you fly in the desert - I used to let it play in the background and look at the cool CGI desert flyby just for relaxation. I was quite let down that Dune II took a whole different path with the gameplay - but even that turned out to be one of the first great RTS games ever.

Dune is still one of my favorite RTS games to this day.

i still play it... although it get old and so predictableits almost like on rails gaming

Nolsp that is coming later. America (everyone else too.) loves sequels. And prequels!

David Lynch had his fair chance and he created a monstrosity. He can be told to go to hell if he asks.

David Lynch had no room for anything on the movie. The studio wouldn't let him do anything. I think Jodorowsky is to blame. His ideas were so wild, they were afraid to let anyone loose. I'd love to see what Lynch would do without a proverbial gun to his head.

We need someone who actually looks like Duncan Idaho was described. a Michael Bolton Tom Jones archetype

Actually Kyle was a bit old for the role of Paul, but other than that the casting and the costumes of the Lynch vers. were spot on. Also Josef was correct. Considering Duncan Idaho eventually becomes the hero of the story, you do need to cast an actor with some charisma and presence as well.

yea but patrick steward is no gurney hallek. to good looking.

On hearing that description in the video, I'd have to agree. I've no interest in seeing Dune done up as an acid trip.

Having seen the making of doc, I have to wonder if Jodo had even read the book.

wratched the movie would have been awful. He didn't read the book (he said so in documentary). I liked the sci-fi channel mini series. But so much of the books are non-visual, so I have my doubts a good show/movie(s) can be done. Guilty Pleasure: I love the movie! "Usul has called a big one! Again, it is the legend!"

Sure Jodo didn't read the book but he made it his own awesome thing. Even though it's not like in the book it still rocks so hard. 4:06

Prometheus It was great that he got so involved in the project and all. But you don't make movies just with ideas and good will: you gotta have executive producers that approve on a budget. And Jodo's budget was crazy talk.

DCDevTanelorn the books kind of already are.

I would like to see both to be honest. Let Jodorowsky make his version (never going to happen though, but if you've seen the documentary "Jodorowsky's Dune" you'd want to see it made) and also make a quality tv series or series of films.

Thane Greyhaven agree it's better than the movie

And they turned Leto's everything-but-the-face sandtrout metamorphosis into a patch of skinrash :(

Because it completely lacked the epic feeling of dune, fueled by the consious expanding spice. Sure Lynch movie wasnt perfect but it captured how alien and wonderful Dune is. The TV series is so dry and devoid of life and art.

LuckieLuuke I can't thumb this up any harder. The mini-series was good, but the heart and epic-ness were not there.

No SEAN BEAN as Leto

Kevin Van Dal Yet I kind of feel bad that Sean Bean would have to die in yet another movie... but I guess I'd take him too.

Actually Sean Bean for Duncan Idaho...it would be sweet poetic justice for Bean to be the one to survive the 100,000+ years from the original through Chapterhouse.

Rhonda Scarborough I'm ALL for that!!!

Rhonda Scarborough 100k+ years? where are you getting that? my own estimation from in - universe sources sits at less than 6000 across the same books.

The Permian-Triassic extinction event was way worse than the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event.

It must FLOWWWWW.

Maybe even a new video game?

My one biggest request for the future Dune adaptation is that they properly portray the Harkonnens for once, especially the Baron. In the books, the Harkonnens were legitimately frightening in a classy sort of way, yet the movie and miniseries failed to realize this. The movie made them so gross and crazy that it was impossible to take them seriously, and the miniseries almost did them right but tamed them down for television.

The baron was a homosexual sadistic pervert.

Josef Venport I know this. But in the books he was also very smart as well as classy in a pompous sort of way. Like I said before, the '84 movie made him so over-the-top crazy that it was impossible to take him seriously, and the miniseries tamed him down so much that he was not nearly as frightening a person as he was in the book. If we're going to have a Dune remake, the Baron Harkonnen as well as the other Harkonnens is one aspect I would really want to see done right because it would be the scariest version of them.

With Pug in hand... LONG LIVE DUKE LETO!!!

If the criteria is a " long-standing dream is to direct Dune" then Jodorowsky should get it.

or me.

if6was929 The criterion (and the reason I made the suggestion) is that Villeneuve is a brilliant director. That's why his wanting to do Dune is a great thing, and why he would be a far, far better choice than Jodorowsky, who wanted to make Jodorowsky's Dune, not Frank Herbert's Dune.

lesyayandfilksongs he got the job ;)

Skyebright1 Looks like it : ). My biggest reason for having faith in Villeneuve doing it right is that he's a fan of written science fiction. There are other brilliant directors, but he really seems like the man for the job.

Melody Johnson they tried that. It was....meh. hopefully they've learned though!

I am a Dune junky and honestly if you just stick to the original novel you won't get much past a season. The only way you drag it out is to expand the war arch, or go through the entire series but that leads you to the clusterfuck of the post Frank novels.

I'm not sue if I saw the second, but I seem to remember that the miniseries format worked better than the movie.

The BG practically did nothing BUT mix religion and politics. You can use shields on Dune, just not out in the desert. They use personal shields for practice in the palace for example.

Butterfest Yeah, and Moebius should draw it.

JJ Abrams RUINED Star Trek. He made it just about unwatchable for me, an original 1966 run TOS fan. He doesn't understand "cerebral" Sci Fi stories at all. Imagine what a mess of a philosophically rich story he'd make out of Dune. HELL NO! Just about anyone but him, but Ridley Scott or G. Del Toro would be my two top choices. Alejandro J. would just be too weird and deviate too much from the book. I do like Giger's artwork though, it fits the Harkonens to a T. I thought he chose good actors, Orson Welles would have made a great Baron Harkonen and Salvador Dali a great Emperor, but after all this time they are dead. Also, it would be best if done as a Game of Thrones style series. The two stories are thematically related, very similar, and Game of Thrones has been a runaway hit, so Dune would do well if done like it. Both versions done so far had problems. I loved the 1984 movie version, but it tried to cram too much into 2 hours. Dune is way too complicated a story for that. Otherwise, it was great. The miniseries by Sci-Fi, was in a word, awful. It's only good thing was staying closer to the book, everything else was terrible. I've seen fan made sci-fi shows that looked better than this. We can only hope that a better version of Dune will be done the next time around, but it would have to be done like the work of art that it is, and with the way Hollywood works these days (Money is everything, to hell with art), I just don't know if it ever will be.

Now we're talking! Michael S. would be great with the proper budget

Zedrick Father! The sleeper has awaken.

Fear is the mind killer

Runaway Lady agree the miniseries were both good

I liked it except the Adreides are supposed to look pretty much Greek with dark hair and olive skin. I'd like to see them start all the way back with the Legends of Dune series! The first two prequel trilogies are... LEGENDARY! Fantastic! Kevin J. Anderson is phenomenal! I'd love to see Netflix or HBO or someone to the Saga of the Seven Suns Series as well! Absolutely EPIC!

The SyFy channel's treatment of the first three Dune novels, in two different mini-series, was excellent, although I have to agree with Neal Babbitt's comment about casting. David Lynch's cast was excellent (although I'm still not sure about Kyle McLaughlin as Paul Atreides). Jurgen Prochnow as Duke Leto? Wow! So, now they want to make another Dune? I could see Guillermo Del Toro either directing or creating the costumes and creatures, but whoever they tap to direct, whether movies or series, really MUST read the books, in order, several times, to get all the complexity of the original author's intent. Good luck!

yeah...and it sucked

It was alright, but we'd love to see what they can do with a big budget for the story!

+Quill X what? no

Ice Bringer it did !

Actually, considering that the gene for Caucasian skin is recessive to those for darker skins, the only white people left would be ones that hadn't cross-bred with other races, meaning those who had been in isolation. The Bene Gesserit, with their breeding program, could produce all kinds of new races. I know FH had the Bene Tleilax as "gray," although in a lot of the pictures they look blue.

Brien Malone The only thing I agree with you one is the director. His vision sounded fucking stupid.

Fun fact about some of the costumes in David Lynchs movie. The ones the Guild Navigators wore, were made from used body bags. They stunk like death, were heavy, hot and were made of used body bags to make the actors really uncomfortable intentionally. Pretty disturbing and gross, but I have to admit. Not one of the Navigators in any scene looked any kind of comfortable.

Arbhall McDougall eeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwww LOL!!

I really enjoyed it but some of the art design kinda threw me. The Harkkonen just looked silly to me.

yeah the mini series was far more faithful to the source material. And the Baron was really well played compared to the movie. The reason Lynches Dune always stuck with me though was because I saw it before I was old enough to read the books, so for the most part I prefer his art designs especially the worms, the ones in the mini series just didn't do it for me. Gotta agree on the Stillsuits though. The ones in the mini series were more appropriate.

I love the Lynch version taken on its own, not comparing it to the book. The director's cut is especially good and includes way more explanation for what's going on.

yeah it adds a whole heap of exposition to the beginning of the film if i remember correctly.

***** I don't know, it kind of gave it the feel of watching a play which I found kind of enjoyable.

Seeing as they only showed clips from the 1984 version, I don't think they actually read the books. I don't know about you, but I much prefer the 2000 mini-series. Sure it had it's issues, but it was far superior to that other piece of crap.

Ian Stradian if you read Dune and only saw the intrgues of power angle, then you need to read it again. it's primary theme is the drive for control as a means of ensuring survival, both on a small and large scale. what did you think the point of the Kwisatz Haderach was? what did you think the point of the generations of tradition surrounding the physical and mental potential of the human being was? the ecological aspect of the Fremen mythos was just another reflection of that idea.

Ian Stradian, I think one of the reasons that Dune is such a beloved book/series is that it brings out different themes for different people. I first read it when I was 14 and fell in love with a complicated scifi adventure whose protagonist was only a little older than me. I re-read it when I was 17 and found the political intrigue to be amazing. When I re-read it in college the themes of powerful women and the different ways the sexes solve problems was apparent and the religious themes resonated like never before (this was also just after the film came out),,When I was in my 30's I read it again and the themes of humanity's march through history was apparent as well as just the heroic and tragic story of Paul. When I was in my 40s I re-read it while my parents were terminally ill and found it to be an amazingly appropriate story about family and the tensions that children have with their parents. And yeah at some point in a re-reading I recognized the push for ecological responsibility (which I had also gotten back in the 70s). So as I read the comments I have to remember that truth in art depends on each of us' experience. FWIW I hope this becomes an HBO or Netflix series. With each season being one of the many books. Just telling the arc of the first three books could easily take 5-6 seasons.

Ian Stradian - I take it you skipped over Liet-Kynes' entire arc, the reason why the Missionara Projectiva was so _blindingly_ successful on Arrakis, the subtext that harvesting a natural resource for transportation and hedonistic greed also requires a wasteland for a planet. Of course Dune has an ecological message. The promise of a terraformed Arrakis is the only reason the Fremen accepted the Bene Gesserit prophecy and fight alongside Paul. It spends entire chapters inside Kynes' head talking about it. It's also got stuff about disgruntled Arab "primitives" in the dead center of the macro-economy being religiously pulled into a Jihad against the civilized world, and ancient orders and Empires shattering under new and undiscovered ramifications of the expansion of the human experience, through prescience and genetics in Dune, through instant communication and connectivity in the modern world, 50 friggin' years after its publication.

Lettuce Prime​​ the Missionaria PROTECTIVA was employed on Arakkis centuries before Pardot was was even born. Why is literally every other Dune fan I encounter so confused about this point? The biggest reason Kynes was able to become a fremen instead of being killed was because he cared so much about his ecological dream that he brushed aside a combat challenge from one of their strongest fighters, who then killed himself with his own krisknife. They pretty much viewed him as a prophet after that. He had a vision that could allow them to control their destiny. It's all about control, and the futility f striving for it in the face of an indifferent and chaotic universe. Herbert even consistently talked about a higher order motivating everything. Everything else in the story revolves around this central theme. And Paul did not pull them into his Jihad. That is basically the single most consistent narrative arc of the first three books. Paul was a victim of circumstance and status. Try as hard as he could, he could not see a path that did not involve war. And he tried very, very hard once he learned how to harness his oracular power.

valar agree great points

Same. Running in theatre mode.

mine looks like stretched 4:3

Hmm, we're seeing nothing unusual. Anyone else? Might be a KZfaq player issue.

aaron agree

howlers8 yeah, there is the potential to make it better than the book, but it needs to be both realised fully and have some fluff cut. With the tech and worlds and story that lasts thousands of years there is ta really chance to make a game of thrones style show to bring in none scifi fans as that did fantasy. Let's wait and see

This! So much this!

I think we can mix Sting in his original role and use CGI to fill in where he is not available. All of the acting and audio he originally did was pretty good. Patrick Stewart can still voice the CGI and we could use most of the old footage of him. The technique would be a cleaner version of the digital remastering on Star Wars a New Hope from the deleted scenes with Han and Jabba in the starship hangar. We have the technology to make that better (like in Avatar) and to make the old actors younger where needed (Like Tron 2 and Rogue One).

Whaaat? Sting and Patrick Stewart were terribly cast in that movie.

Lettuce Prime 8m just talking about cameos for the remake though. not play the same characters

Schardt Cinematic Productions - Oh duh. Forgive me. I'm fucking right off now. xD

I have this taped to my wall and say it in stress and worry. Especial since this last election *I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. - Bene Gesserit Litany Against Fear.*

LMS Wrestling It'll be like planes 2

The movie version in the past bombed so yeah this makes no sense.

They did a decent retake on Children of dune, but their original was done more like a theater play, Prophet was eh, OK. Nobody has done God Emperor of dune except George Lucas based the Hutts on the concept of the spice mutated human turned worm.

***** I suppose you and I will just have to agree to disagree on that, because that miniseries was beautiful, well acted, full of amazing special effects, and had high quality realistic fights scenes starring one of the few masters of the craft who is sorely under appreciated. Though it was only a miniseries, it was one of the first grand epics made. Without that movie, Lord of the Rings would never have been made.

If you were underwhelmed, I'm going to guess that's because you read the books first. My brother had the same issue. I, unfortunately, have yet to make the time to read the novels. My perspective may change once I get around to that.

i still cringe every time i think of princess irulan's vomit-worthy butterfly dress, yuk! and i barely remember the shadout mapes from the sci-fi channel series... she was much better in the lynch version. and however they format the new version, i hope they have paul atreides played by someone with the charisma of kyle maclachlin compared wit the actor in the sci-fi channel version, lame! Stilgar and Chani were also much better in the Lynch version.

the only thing that ever came at all close to the source material was that miniseries with McAvoy

EFFING jodorowsky!!!?? I can't believe there are still people who think THAT would be a good idea... don't get me wrong, the guy's a genius, but NOT the guy for this... HE DIDN'T EVEN READ THE BOOKS!!! AND HE COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT IT (admited BY HIM)

Andres Dario Fernandez agree the Sci Fi miniseries did explore it seriously, especially children of dune

yeah he buthered it.. the baron talked about taking 60 FREAKING YEARS of saving.. to pay for the army to send to Arrakis.. and he is going to make a palace shaped like his face that fling shit at the cities populace? el topo was goofy.. in today shock theater.. el topo looks like a youtube video.

rurutu M *exploded larval sandworm

Well the worms need water to survive, but water causes a worms flesh to break down. To keep counter act the harm of the water, the worms lace water in their bodies with a compound. The process most likely happens in the early part of digestion too keep the water of anything devoured from harming the worm. This would lead to one of the stronger sources of spice the freman "water of life" winch is collected from the water vomited/ejected from a drowned worm. Though, the "water of life" is deadly untill processed by a revered mother. The most common source of spice melange is from the dried out embryonic fluid from the metamorphosis of sand trout, larval form of the worms, to baby worms. Sand trout seek out any and all water in the environment. When enough water has been gathered many sand trout will gather creating a "pre-spice mass". Basically a cocoon for the metamorphosis with all of gathered water made safe similarly to what is consumed by an adult worm. As the worms reach maturity the pressure will spike in the mass and cause a "spice blow" killing several the infantile worms and spewing the fluid in to the air. Where it settles on the sand and drys out leaving only the spice melange. Of course an obvious source is dissecting a mature worm and harvesting specific organs.

No kidding, I always thought they made that up for the game so there was "infinite" resources. Didn't think it was actually canon.

yeah, btw, seems he's only talent is recycling others talent... sad but true.

Please not J J Abrams. I'll never forgive him for the almighty mess he made with his Star Wars reboot.

I dont want to hear Beastie Boys in a Dune movie. I love JJ, and the Beastie Boys, but they should not mix the two together again, its been done.

Because all they're interested in these days is making money with action movies for kids, not doing stories like Dune that are true art justice. He'd make a mess out of it, just like he did with Star Trek. If he directs it, I won't go to see it.

Sorry, I disagree. JJ's good with visuals but too heavy-handed and frenetic for me. After watching his take on STAR TREK I left the theater feeling beat up and tired. DUNE needs subtlety.

Children of Dune is great!

Sometimes I feel like the only person who loved the stage theatrics of the Dune mini-series but utterly hated the Children of Dune series simply because it smashed books 2 and 3 into one thing.

Coridimus I've never read the books so the mini-series and the 80s movie are my only reference points. By that logic, the mini-series' are pretty awesome.

I liked the series the whole sand worm armor idea was awesome.

NeoDeath Oh yeah! I forgot about MacAvoy getting all weird.

Russ Emerson That's a myth, scientists have known about the ill effects of co2 emissions since the late 1800's. The coming ice age thing was pop 1950's hysteria, no professionals believed it and there were no papers to provide evidence.

Say what you like, I am old enough to remember it.

Yes, you are old enough, that doesn't mean you are right.

I agree with you russ....ludicrous

I hope they don't turn dune into an argument for how communism can prevent global warming.

will brand yeah the miniseries shows it better

So what if it's not similar to the book? It would have been awesome anyway. But if it was going to happen it would have been released in the 80s. There's zero chance now. And it's not one or the other, why do people think that? There's room for both.

Totally agree. The Atreides were always described as generally Caucasian, but the Fremen need to be dark skinned, and you could go nuts with the Harkonnen's, the navigators, the Bene Gesserit etc.

The rich are drug-addicts and controlled by drug-addicted fanatics who are trying to ensure that the "best" thing for society happens while they create and exploit religions. It will piss off SJW's while confirming all conspiracy theories about the Illuminati.

Plus I don't want to see the freaking Guild navigators unveiled right in the frist scene. It is made a really cool suspending mystery in the books for quite a while.

Duncan was described as having brown skin and black curly hair, wasn't he?

My wish is that whoever produces a new DUNE take the time to really add emotional nuance to the characters. One thing I HATE are cookie-cutter characters that fall into nothing more than stereotypes. The DUNE-iverse characters really contrast sharply between good, abject, and evil but I'd love to see the shades of gray that color their motives. One great example of what I mean (though not part of the DUNE saga) is Alan Moore's KILLING JOKE, where he shows the Joker as more than a psychopath; he shows the events that shaped the Joker into a criminal mastermind and that there are vestiges of his old self still buried deep within his twisted psyche. I hope someone makes the people of DUNE come to life as well. AND NO BARON "CAPTAIN UNDERPANTS" HARKONNEN THIS TIME!!!