Doom Discord channels: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/94590/ Fun Deathmatch wads: doomshack.org/recommended.html Long-form writeup on what makes DM maps fun: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111366/ Hope you enjoy this video!

Few extra points: 1. If you have to add doors, make them fast and add a trigger in front of the door so the player can just run through it. 2. If you are going to add extra details to walls such as support beams, create an impassable line across the wall so the player won't get stuck on the wall. UDMX is a good example of this. If you want a bad example look at sigil e5m6's cyberdemon maze. Screw that maze.

"D_RUNNIN FFS YOU KNEW THAT ALREADY" looool

My boy's on a roll lately. Keep it up, mate!

Tip # 1 - Doors = Not Fun Show this to Infinity Ward.

You've been pumping some great content non-stop these days man! Nicely done, love this ''theory and advice'' styled videos.

I always made my maps with a few things standard: I always designed my maps with 2 players in mind, since at the time i was almost exclusively playing with one other person. Exits were always 2 player minimum. I'd set the switch to open the exit door too far from the door itself. This way both players had to agree to leave the map. Spawn points were outside the map with at least 2 teleporters to drop into the play area. They always had a weapon, a backpack and a full ammo load. There were always 8 of them and most had shotguns or chainguns. 1 had a rocket launcher and 1 had a plasma gun. There were only small ammo pickups in the play area.

The great thing about deathmatch map design, is it can be translated to singleplayer map design as well! Some of my early stuff was multiplayer maps (thankfully never fully released). It can teach you a lot about looping or non linear layouts, and stuff like Double Impact is a great example of a multiplayer centric design working itself into singleplayer, namely those open areas I'm sure Ralphis designed.

Great content friend. I'd love more of these tips videos, since I have gotten back into modding again after a while off. :)

dead end in exchange for PR and 200 cells and a soulsphere very dangerous, very rewarding. long hallway, with some turns that can end you or get you a kill and a sweet PR. risk reward dark area with a blur, but little health, and tough to get out of. risk reward can be used to help players/teams turn the game in their favor, but only if necessary, lest you be melted by a BFG or shot by the holey gun.

So after experimenting more with making deathmatch maps I've began to notice that I've developed a style when it comes to item placements and general layout. I have a generally chaotic approach to mapping where everyone has easy access to powerful weapons turning games into complete slaughterfests. (I find these kinds of maps fun with 4 players) I build maps around a central area where most combat takes place. I like to place all the health pickups here to encourage people to fight here as well as making the map naturally flow back into this area. The medkits also help to sustain fights in the central area. I usually place four which is enough to fully heal one player. I use backpacks for ammo and I place them in a less central but still semi-open area to create a sort of mini point of interest for players wanting to restock. I place plasma guns in secluded areas usually nearer to the center to still allow some spamming. Rocket launchers are positioned in high up spots overlooking the map to give players who pick them up a sense of power, even though the rocket launcher isn't as effective in open areas. This also allows the player who picks up the rocket launcher to quickly run to whatever part of the map they want. I place chainguns and green armor further away from the center. Sometimes even putting them in small dead ends. I will occasionally place armor closer to the center but will always keep it behind cover. Chainguns will be put in a spot that allows for safe sniping as they aren't viable up close. I add 8 player starts for variety although I design the map for 4 players. All players start with ssg. I put a berserk in the exit room away from the action allowing wounded players to heal. This may seem overpowered but due to the high value of a full heal it's actually surprisingly unreliable. Plus I put them behind slow doors to add a slight risk. I add health and armor bonuses but make sure to keep them away from their respective pickups, (I put armor bonuses near the health and health bonuses near the armor) with ammo being placed near their respective weapons. Finally, I add a bfg in the center of somewhere on the edge of the map. I like to use one of three mechanisms for obtaining the bfg. 1. Having a switch which reveals the bfg somewhere else on the map allowing another player to also obtain it. 2. Forcing the player to take an easily visible path allowing others to intercept them before they reach the bfg. 3. force the player to wait in an open area for a lift, creating a temporary control point. TL:DR Maps designed around central combat are Center contains medkits Bonuses placed away from respective items Ammo placed near their respective weapons Chaingun and armor placed away from center Backpacks in side room Plasma near center, rocket launcher overlooks map Berserk in exit room, bfg creates KotH style control point.

This map and the whole bourgeois DM was incredibly fun on deathmatch with bots

Dude drops Peaches En Regalia as the deathmatch tune. What a G.

We need more doom builder time-lapses from you dude. From your music choices to the visual content itself, this video is super interesting to watch

Ah yes, I sure do love relaxing music while I blast and murder everyone in sight. These are some really cool tips not just for multiplayer but mapping in general. Thanks for these videos, dude!

Dayum not only can't get enough of your videos but this genuinely made me want to make a map some day.

For your first point, how about doors with walk over triggers so they just open themselves? That way, it doesn't slow your momentum and can provide some form of cover going from one area to another.

Another quality video, great tips👍

Another pretty interesting tutorial!

Extremely good video, thanks Doomkid!

Great video! When I got into mapping I actually originally wanted to do deathmatch maps. I love the gamemode, such a shame it kind of died out... I remember my first post ever in DW was me asking if you could do both a great single-player and DM level. In case any of you are curious, its almost impossible.

Very helpful tips! I am currently creating a deathmatch map to play with my brothers and this video is helping me out.

Good tips man! Also props for using some Heretic music ;)

Yeah all these in-depth Doom videos are great and all, but where's the newest DFF KZfaq Poop? I need my fix!

Well put, all these points does indeed make DM fun or more fun hence i usually play Greenwar, love the videos keep it up bro

This gives me an itch for a good ol' deathmatch . Unfortunately there aren't a lot of populated servers nowadays.

those bots look like players. I wanna be able to do that! maybe make a guide for that too?

that DWANGO music

This was very informative! Finished my map for Twogers, but I didn't think of adding in deathmatch starts. Map wasn't designed for deathmatch, so I'll just clone a specific area for deathmatch only.

I would love to see your top multiplayer suggested maps compiled into a multiplayer wad.

Very useful video, and nice speedmap! I'm working on NEGATIVEONE in making MAP05 playable for deathmatch, and these tips will be useful!

Excellent advice!

Very good advice!

Great video

i literally used all the midis u put in this video for all my maps back in the day haha

Great video! Love the peaches midi

d_runnin is burnt into my dna at this point and the scars still sting

Peaches En Regalia, a man of true taste! Love to see a map with Return of the Giant Hogweed or The Knife.

Something I can’t decide is if I should add in a few deathmatch maps in a primarily single player project, or if I should just make a separate DM WAD with nothing but DM maps.

Great advice and video! Map looks like good fun. Did you use Doom Builder 2 or one of the forks?

Nice

*_ratboygenius_* ceiling 8:24

2:21 Fetch me a fire extinguisher. A good one, with the foam.

actually, i think most of these tips are usefull not only for doom, but also for other games

Can't remember if I've seen this or not before. Regardless, great content as always.

sweet

The other day I had a fabulous deathmatch in zandronum in the Skulltag maps with 8 players, man, it was a blast! I won once btw

do you know where I can find people to play test my deathmatch maps with me?

Something that I wanted to do for a map, is to place an area with tunnels apart from stairs, with enough space to fight withouth losing sinergy, and without trapping the players in dead ends. But in one section I want to place an open field, to place a switch that will release two Arachnotrons and a HellKnight in some sections of the map. Could you tell me if it's a good idea? Thanks if someone answers.

My main pet peeve with Deathmatch maps is that most of the ones I've downloaded are butt-ugly. Probably my favorite DM wad had this weird mechanic where each map had only one type of gun. The first had a pistol, next a shotgun, then an SSG, and so on and so forth. A great way to teach beginners how to use different weapons in DM.

You should check out pyrrhic1 and 2 from hobomaster, great vid

Hello Doomkid, hope you're doing well :) Some wonderful advices there, and I'll definitely use them as guidelines for my DM maps from this time forward. I just had one question; I've mostly mapped for single player and all the time I've went with a limit removing port, since I'm personally, not a fan of vanilla's seg or visplane limitations. For DM, would it be better to make them vanilla compatible or would making them limit removing be a good idea? Thanks in advance :)

What’s that background you’re using for the number counts between gameplay footage?

Yo question is it ok if i do my dm maps in boom format?

What version of the Doombuilder do you use to make these maps?

How do you place a sky texture?

another suggestion: make every visplane count.

Good vid. Some criticism, the music is louder than your microphone at some points.

As a co-author of onslaught 3 deathmatch mappack I can veryfy every single point stated in this video. Also you forgot to mention some obvious things (too dark areas usuLy bad idea, steep stairs also bad idea, teleports should be placed thoughtful and with telefrags in mind - control point for teleports is good idea. Also things like slime rarely used in deathmatch, and imo should be mostly avoided. Also lifts, big height gradient should be used very thoughtfully- good example is judas32.wad - rare example of great map with steep dstairs yet grat dynamics). Also I feel emphasizing control points is important. Traditionally BFG is placed somewhere in dead end or at the place that forces player to loose momentum and be predictable for a brief moment. Grat example is dwango5 map01 where it is very easy to pick up bfg through wall but it requires you to hug the corner and becomd easy pray for a few seconds. Also It is generally good idea to throw some obstacles in large rooms to allow players to dance around those - generally pillar abuse enriches gameplay with strategy, and introducing some mind games.

What sourceport are you using?

I'm too worthless to go about any deathmatch but my brother is visiting for Xmas. I'm gonna force him to play some Doom coop. What is the easiest way for a local network coop game? Gzdoom? If gzdoom, can I freely change settings such as weapon stay, pistol start, allow mouselook etc etc on the go in-game? What are the top 10 best wads for Coop?

What's the track that plays when your timelapse starts? Cheers dude

Do you have any extra tips on making DM maps in 3D games like Quake and Serious Sam?

I’m still figuring out lifts.

Whats is the name of the map in 1:09?

What’s the exit for in DM?

4:40 Megasphere= blue armor + soulsphere

Is it necessary to put doors in deathmatch maps?

how do you make team deathmatch maps?

What that Shadow Warrior Uzi doing there

Wait a minute, do I hear King Crimson? I definitely hear psychedelic 60s rock I'm familiar with.

How about making another video-tutorial if you know how to explain and create such things. I probably were picking graphics for my map (not deathmatch only) and I wondered to all the "special stuff". What if I've taken the gore, hanging corpses and etc and put that in Doom wad. So that would be a thing-type-thing, so I can place it in levels. So I've asked myself, how I should do that completely, making it a completely new object and not a replacement. Also I do know that Doom has ability to make maps such as Half-Life's "Nuke" where you can blow up every player that not in the bunker - I think that would be interesting to know for everyone. And the hardest questions in my life about Hexen's experience - not about hub system anyway. Hexen still make me wonder how their fantasy booby traps and other nice things worked in ID Tech 1 - Korax Zoom Meeting, more than 2 frame levers, doors that opens exactly like real doors, breaking glass and etc and etc. I do not think that you a Guru or something, but i'm just curious, is it possible for someone else to do something of mentioned if they are not a 30y of experience in Id Tech 1 community with Whacked, Dehacked and Slade? I have already enough resources to make a decent deathmatch or a singleplayer map, just curious bout this really good stuff.

Personal note: Play random heavy metal songs in the background

What makes partial invisibility powerup overpowered? Haha. I wonder if adding darkness and light googles to a deathmatch map is a good map design.

Wow making a map in a hour?!

Nice but I recommend lowering music on your video while talking, its kinda hard to hear you

still using windows 7? damn son

How do I even make my own Doom level? Is this a mod? Sorry I'm kind of new to Doom

Has anyone found an effective way to create a Doom multiplayer experience with bots? A single player DM doesn't seem to be a thing.

I think you forgot to mention damaging floors/sectors because they can screw people over

where can i play vanilla deathmatch? every deathmatch that i see has 100mb+ mods which i dont like

Ok, you need to have an exit in a Deathmatch map right?

what's the point if you don't even have any friends to play with?

"Deathmatches usually have about 2-8 player's" Clearly you've never gone to any of Kappeli's Net Party's

this video is from 2020 thought this was 2010