$70 Games Are Unsustainable, Says CEO of Game Publisher.

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@chubs2312 Ай бұрын

You can't sell a live service game that feels unfinished for $70 where content is drip fed.

@BleedForTheWorld Ай бұрын

This is a very good point. Helldivers for $40 gets a pass because it's actually a really fun live service model.

@Belmont1714 Ай бұрын

@@BleedForTheWorldIt was $40 day one?

@EsotericMelodies Ай бұрын

@@Belmont1714yes and still is and in game currency is found in game as well.

@BleedForTheWorld Ай бұрын

@@Belmont1714 I'm praising it

@mac1bc Ай бұрын

Live service games should be max $40 if they expect you to keep spending more money on it.

@HMG2119 Ай бұрын

Rarely pay full price for a game anymore, wait for deals/sales. Some even when they are worth under $15.

@jollama Ай бұрын

Thank you for having a functioning brain. Some people really have a god complex when they say they pay full price

@falscherkim3033 Ай бұрын

@@jollama Paying full price is only acceptable when you really love the studio and wanna support 100%. But greedy productions like FIFA, COD or Suicide Squad dont deserve that at all.

@demosneokleous4877 Ай бұрын

@@falscherkim3033facts

@spursdynasty7378 Ай бұрын

GameFly has good deals right now. I bought Prince of Persia and TLOU2 full price and both are massively discounted at GameFly . Wish I would have waited a bit.

@jadjohnny Ай бұрын

@@falscherkim3033or games like FF7R or Stellar Game (yes, a brand new IP, ikr yet a demo was released but many including myself loved it! )

@MrMiaw717 Ай бұрын

130 usd is absurd for a game that will probably not even be finished. The game looks very bare bones

@BigJugsRule92 Ай бұрын

They’ll probably use that money to support the game with post launch patches too. Which is another slap in the face

@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Ай бұрын

70 USD has made me buy 5ish games per year. All “safe bet games” instead of exploring. 100 USD per game would make me buy 2 games per year. It would turn my PS5 into a Capcom-Souls-like-box.

@ToonyTails Ай бұрын

It would turn mine into a Sonic-2D/3D indie platformer box.

@sarcasm-83 Ай бұрын

Yeah the more and more I'll demand from a game the higher the price is. Yet, if the price was at around 50, I'd likely buy many more just to have a "good"/"ok" game, managing to overlook some of it's flaws. Not to mention how I feel like bought a lot more games at 50-60 prices than now at 70. If their price increase to 70 means half less sales, then they would've made a fair bit more money even selling at 50. (1000 games at 50 = 50k. 500 games at 70 = 35k) Kinda weirds me out how little any dev tries going that way, as the sheer numbers would bring more money than raising the product price, especially now that digital sales won't even mean that they gotta print copies.

@iHaveTheDocuments Ай бұрын

I pay around 40 because I'm on pc and have like 25 options to buy games

@WWEdeadman Ай бұрын

Actually, 100 bucks for a single game would make me just straight up not buy anything at full price anymore. Not cause I can't afford it, but cause I refuse to pay such hilariously high prices for software, especially if it's bound to an online service that could get shut down, or launches unfinished, broken and unoptimzed.

@DalazG Ай бұрын

Last game i bought brand new was RE4 because it was £60, new games in the UK are £70 ($90). Far too much for me to buy any new games

@JohnSmith-xq1pz Ай бұрын

If only somebody had warned them $70 games was a bad idea...

@Dragonfury3000 Ай бұрын

The problem is hiring Hollywood talent into these games.

@Kranitoko Ай бұрын

@@Dragonfury3000 it's part of the problem sure, but a bigger problem is publishers trying to go for the highest and best graphics possible, which increases budgets, and then when it comes to release, severe problems arise and therefore the game no longer looks appealing. It's all about trying to be realistic when in reality, many games just look naff the more realistic it gets.

@TheSubZero187 Ай бұрын

@@Dragonfury3000yeah I don’t like when the characters in the game look like the actor because it takes away the uniqueness to video games vs movies. Video games always had different characters who look nothing like anyone else most of the time. When you start to put an actor then that’s all you see. Norman Reedus being in Death Stranding to me is playing Daryl from Walking Dead

@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Ай бұрын

@@Kranitoko I love your position. But when Rise of the Ronin came out some internet goblins came out and called it a PS3 game. And since we are now in April I bet most of us who completed it can asure that the experience was great gameplay at consistent 60 FPS. Yet for as great as Rise of Ronin was, the 2024 singleplayer experience for the mainstream seems to be FF7 part 2. So while I am of the club of Gameplay First… that’s not the club of the casual consumer.

@Kranitoko Ай бұрын

@@josetomascamposrobledano4618 it's about striking the balance. If you're purposely making games that look like PS3 games on the PS5, that's a bit of an ick. If you're trying to break the PS5 by making PS6/7 games on it, then yeah no shit the game broke and looked like a mess in the end.

@sleepyshinx174 Ай бұрын

who would've guessed that raising game prices while also giving less content would be unsustainable.

@paulszki Ай бұрын

it's not even about the quantiy of content. It's about the quality. stop making 100 hour open world games that suck. Make 10-20 hours game that are awesome. Capcom is doing well with their resident evil games. Nobody is ever complaining about those games being too short.

@ArtVandelay592 Ай бұрын

@@paulszkiWell you would be shocked on that last front. But of course those people aren’t taking into consideration that while yes Resident Evil games are by design meant to be very short games, because of all the unlockables they’re infinitely replayable. And imo a 5-20 hour game that’s highly replayable is better than a 100+ hour game that I’m burnt out on before I even beat the game and will never want to play again.

@lnx648 Ай бұрын

@@ArtVandelay592 true, RE games are awesome because you can replay them so many times without getting bored with different strats/items/etc, but in general a short adventure game can be worth replaying. I'd rather replay a good game that was a very enjoyable experience 3 times than finish a 70 hours game that's simply boring. I'd rather replay Uncharted 4, than play any of the modern ACs.

@jazzberry1713 Ай бұрын

@@paulszkiheard the next Resi is gonna be open world lol

@ArtVandelay592 Ай бұрын

@@lnx648 Could not agree more.

@CPGrungebobGaming Ай бұрын

I'll just say, the $70 game with 200hr gameplay is why 60% of the gaming market is playing 6+ year old games (it was a study that came out last week). They are driving people out of "Day One" purchase window and looking for sales or used bins, or even worse, forgettable games in 2 years because they never spend their money on that game and bought something else. And we are currently in a place where the top 2 games of 2024 sells are Palworld and Helldivers 2 that are $40 and $50 games... out selling and making more profits than $70 games.

@brianp6859 Ай бұрын

And to be fair those games are awesome lol

@inyrui Ай бұрын

its also because so many games come out now and they require a lot of time to play, and a lot of us have jobs. only reason I don't buy day 1 usually is because I have a full time job and a family and only have around an hour a day to play video games now. them being $70 doesn't really matter to me since its only a $10 increase from what they used to be. I assumed inflation would eventually affect gaming prices so its not a big surprise or anything.

@TheGlintJaw Ай бұрын

Right! I'm new to gaming and I've only been playing games that are atleast 5+ years old because I don't have the finances or the time to keep buying $70 games every year. Finished Gow 2018 a few months ago and absolutely loved it, now I'm on the Witcher 3 and it's probably my favourite game of all time so far. Infact I bought a PS4 Pro for around a $150 back in 2020 and I still don't feel like upgrading lol, there's so many cheap and great games to play on the PS4. There's only like 3 games that intrest me on the PS5 as of rn and I'm not willing to spend $500 for 3 games. Gaming is my hobby, doesn't mean I'm gonna empty my bank account for it.

@Packin-Heat. Ай бұрын

I thought Palworld was $30 and Helldivers was $40 but yeah your point still stands.

@jorelplay8738 Ай бұрын

I just don’t buy games on release anymore, knowing that even for the most polished games nowadays, there will follow many patches and bug fixes. I some cases, even newer features would be added down the line, like 60 fps modes, free dlc

@GambinoGameroom Ай бұрын

This is why I hold off on new games and focus on retro games. 70 dollar games down to 30-40 pre owned after a few months. It just makes sense to save the 30 bucks and avoid the hype.

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

And any limited use bonuses included in a new game haven't been worth it for years, so your not losing anything much on those anyway.

@williamdavis3440 Ай бұрын

Not to mention if you wait you can experience the game with all the inevitable patches and bugs ironed out.

@TageChe98 Ай бұрын

Emulator on the series X is a game changer 😅

@Kranitoko Ай бұрын

I do find it funny how all these lay offs came AFTER AAA publishers decided to increase their games to $70 and sometimes even $80. We live in a world where the majority of people are penny pinching, whilst the publishers are just thinking "but what if we charged more" and therefore people AREN'T buying their games. They did this to themselves.

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

They absolutely forgot that the sweet spot for most games is between 50-60 and that you could easily sell expansions for 30 ish if your game was any good.

@101lwx Ай бұрын

It's almost like everyone was saying that 70$ was a bad idea....

@Tampafan33 Ай бұрын

Lmao. All i thought was man imagine all the sales they’ve lost because of that also. I can guarantee the big games lost 500,000 to a million sales. Guaranteed. They would’ve made more just keeping the 60 dollar price point. But GREED

@namenlosNamenlos Ай бұрын

True indeed.

@summerrr1 Ай бұрын

PS2 games were 40-50 dollars in the year 2000. That is 72-90 dollars accounting for inflation, so your point is invalid.

@Diphenhydra Ай бұрын

$70 itself is not a bad idea. I think most people who were fine paying $60 15 years ago are fine paying $70 today. The bad idea is charging $70 for a game that isn't worth $70. I had no problem paying that price for Spider-Man 2 or Final Fantasy XVI, but I would not do it for an Ubisoft or EA game. Which is a shame because for EA's Immortals of Aveum, it is actually a pretty good game and I'm having a great time playing it now... that it isn't $70. They should've done a $40-$50 and it probably would've sold better. But everyone saw that $70 and knew not to buy it, and now that studio is laying off some of its employees and EA will probably shut it down in a few months like they've done to a dozen other studios. Callisto Protocol is another game that is decent enough, but just isn't worth the full price. God of War, Tears of the Kingdom, Hogwart's Legacy, etc all sold really well at $70 because they were games that were worth the money.

@jessekoepp3928 Ай бұрын

@@summerrr1 Were those games half finished, buggy AF, and filled to the brim with obnoxious MTX too? Also there is "natural inflation" that occurs over time and then there's what we're experiencing today, which is "avoidable inflation" so they aren't "automatically" the same exact thing either. The inflation of today is mostly because (at least in the US) of our half dead President and his cabinet of buffoons that are SO stupid, they "didn't understand" that simply printing more money would cause inflation. (that's the Secretary of the Treasury who said that btw, one of many of Bidens Buffoons) Nice try though Captain Math is Hard.

@etherealdreamerart Ай бұрын

I remember when games was $49.99 during the 6th generation era. It was a shock when games went up to $59.99 in the 7th generation era. Games budgets should be adjusted according by title to title.

@bf3ftw55 Ай бұрын

I remember when you pre-order a game, you get 15% discount , and now it is the other way around 😂

@etherealdreamerart Ай бұрын

@bf3ftw55 True. It's sad. The industry is constantly changing and some not for better.

@nicekix3038 Ай бұрын

N64 games was $59.99. On top of that you had pay a extra $60 for an expansion pack to play certain games like Perfect Dark

@PyromancerRift Ай бұрын

And they have no excuses to increase the price. Nowadays, they have a ton of middleware to help development. I think projects are mismanaged and revenue expectations are too high.

@josetomascamposrobledano4618 Ай бұрын

While some may see this and be disappointed. The truth is YOU WERE A KID AND DIDNT FEEL THE WEIGHT OF MONEY! Inflation exists, and those 50 USD games weren’t OUR CURRENT 50. If anything, I celebrate the 60 USD on the PS4 era. We gamers must fight to keep 70 as a standard for a good 5+ years. This current gen has not done a great enough job to justify another increase. Not at all!

@DeadPhoenix86DP Ай бұрын

Haven't paid full price for a game for the past 5 years. I always wait for a sale. Here in Europe base games cost 80 euro digitally. Physically usually around 55 to 60 euro.

@VoqreShorts Ай бұрын

This is why helldivers 2 is thriving!

@edisjd Ай бұрын

Thriving*

@thatonegeeksite5251 Ай бұрын

Isn’t the version with the battle pass $80? Haven’t they released like 4 battle passes since it launched? I know you can earn currency towards the battle passes but gaddamn they are pumping them out lol

@MalikKhiljiravengaming Ай бұрын

@thatonegeeksite5251 that edition is 60$ it has the premium battlepass and one armor set, stratagem hero game access and a super citizen title. the base game is 40$. The game only has 3 premium battlepasses and yes the currency is super easy to earn if you know whatchu are doing. To know how great helldivers 2 is you just have to compare it to other live service games

@flatlandadventure7123 Ай бұрын

@@thatonegeeksite5251version with premium battle pass is $60 USD.

@thatonegeeksite5251 Ай бұрын

@@MalikKhiljiravengaming that’s U.S prices. It was $50 for me and $30 extra for the upgrade (which I didn’t buy). Compared to other live service titles I think how aggressive they’re pumping out battle passes is absurd. People complain about other games but have no problem with this because the base game is cheap? If you’re paying straight up cash it’s gonna cost way more in the long run. It’s a fun game but I feel like people are exaggerating how good it is compared to other live service games.

@shadowtitan8545 Ай бұрын

There was a time where I would purchase $60 games that deserved the money because they were polished and ran smoothly. Now I find myself waiting months if not years for very large discounts on games this is not just due to the industry but games are just in my opinion not worth $70-$100+.

@jollama Ай бұрын

You should’ve been waiting for discounts to begin with. No one’s impressed with you fueling your superiority complex buying full price

@shadowtitan8545 Ай бұрын

@@jollama I don't feel any superiority complex and didn't back then I just bought full priced games well deserving ones at that too. Games like Spider-Man 2018 and God of War 2018 as an example. 2018 in general was a year of banger titles. These days great and amazing games exist including triple A titles but that being said in this economy and times I'm facing rn $70-100+ is not worth it.

@mydogeatspuke Ай бұрын

20 years ago I would happily preorder games without concern, but as you say, they were actually finished. I'm happy to wait years for a game to be finished after release now, which adds the benefit of a much lower price.

@nestormelendez9005 Ай бұрын

@@jollamago outside

@jollama Ай бұрын

@@nestormelendez9005 I already do. What did you think you were accomplishing by typing that. Not to mention you used a logical fallacy when combating my comment 💀

@just_james Ай бұрын

The problem isn't necessarily that they are charging $70. It's that they are using the consumer as the expense to bad budgeting. Game budgets are hugely bloated, and publishers dump money into each new game because more money = better game. This is simply not true.

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu Ай бұрын

The think they have wrong in the equation is higher price =/= more money. Higher price = less sales = less money.

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

Indies prove this all the time don't they. The weirdest thing I noticed is that the new games with immense budgets actually seem to look worse and play worse than A: Indie titles that may look a little less polished and B: games from just 3-5 years ago. Just look at the great visuals of the original Arkham series and Suicide Squad. One still looks great and plays well even after... holy shit, 15 years, and the other looks like it's assets are partly unfinished and it's style and gameplay feels and looks awfully dated on release.

@Drakevid Ай бұрын

Is really fucked up $100 games because if you decide to buy a couple of games like GoW R, TLOU remake, Demon Souls Remake, Spiderman 2 and FFVII Remake, after buying those games you already spent $500, meaning you just bought another console for only 5 games. Even $70 games would be around $350 on only 5 games. Not every game is worth $70 and we as consumers should vote with our wallet what is worth the price and what is not, for instance a game like RDR2, Zelda BoTW, TW3 or Elden Ring are worth $70 or as much $100, but only games with that level of budget and quality should be supported at that high price.

@Deedric_Kee Ай бұрын

👍

@dosomething6975 Ай бұрын

Gaming is the most profitable entertainment industry and the fact that they can't continually turn the money printer to a higher speed is honestly a good thing. People should make games their passionate about, not just for money. If things need to change, they will be better for it.

@brianp6859 Ай бұрын

That's a good point. We could be seeing a gaming market correction where those just interested in the $$$ go the way of the dodo while passion, quality games excel

@ironbru1986 Ай бұрын

The US$70 video game doesn't exist in my country, as in my country US$70 is about £57. However they're charging 40% more for them than last generation, where they were £50 last generation and are now £70 for current generation, which is nearly US$90. That is for the standard edition of a game with no DLC, Micro Transactions, Loot Boxes, In Game Currency, Season Passes, etc included in the price either. The 40% increase we got is way more than inflation. Don't even get me started on how much those of us outside of the USA are overcharged for the hardware, accessories and services too. The Ultimate Edition of that Star Wars game is £120 in my country, which is about US$150.

@napalmarsch Ай бұрын

i will never pay a price like the prices ubisoft are asking for that game

@Debrutsideno Ай бұрын

$70 games are unsustainable for studios that have shareholders.

@FreeTheTaint Ай бұрын

Never buy anything Ubisoft

@alexandrecl4331 Ай бұрын

Mario + Rabbids is actually fantastic, and shows that they do have talent. Too bad they don’t let their talent work properly on their own IP.

@Daniel_D-bo Ай бұрын

assassins creed mirage was good. Avatar was trash and im not touching star wars

@demosneokleous4877 Ай бұрын

Same

@Bleedblue6487 Ай бұрын

Loved Mirage. Was quality and 50 bucks....

@HPLovesCraftsCat Ай бұрын

@@Daniel_D-bo🐑

@falscherkim3033 Ай бұрын

People are willingly preordering digitally for 130 bucks? Jesus fucking Christ. Guys, the game will infinitely be available at launch and months other launch.

@DeadPiixxel Ай бұрын

These are the same people that says pc are expensive but have no problem paying for expensive games and console accessories.

@CarsandCats Ай бұрын

God bless you.

@spongebob148 Ай бұрын

I don't know why you felt the need to blashpheme God's son in your comment. The Bible is the truth and Jesus will return soon for His 1,000 year reign. After the 7 year tribulation is over. There is a time coming very soon when Jesus will remove his true followers from the earth and take them to heaven. Before God pours out His wrath on the earth for 7 years. I hope you don't get the mark of the beast, when you are left behind. Which will be required to buy and sell in the future.

@falscherkim3033 Ай бұрын

@@spongebob148 exactly

@beerussama8128 Ай бұрын

@@spongebob148- you delusional

@Petrefax. Ай бұрын

The AAA could reduce costs making smaller games. Dunno why Assassins Creed needs to have 100 hours of content, with boring side quests.

@colddogs Ай бұрын

don't buy any more new releases in 2024 and let's see what happens to those prices

@falscherkim3033 Ай бұрын

Probably more attempts for produce half baked money milking service games.

@TheGreatOne93 Ай бұрын

Them probably claim they need to increase prices because they aren't hitting their profit margins

@smgofdvld Ай бұрын

That’s like telling people not to buy Pokémon there will always be die hards ready to consume

@PlatinumTales Ай бұрын

@@smgofdvld Why you gotta call me out on Pokemon like that

@Something58447 Ай бұрын

If only developers worried about selling good games

@alanm6o9 Ай бұрын

If only gamers wouldn't keep buying shit games over and over then the developers would be forced to change

@fatobeko3181 Ай бұрын

@@alanm6o9 Real Talk !

@JukieLaprade Ай бұрын

I usually wait for games to go on sale a few months after release now, unless it's something I really want to play right away like FF7 Rebirth for me, I preordered my physical copy. I guess it depends on the game.

@danwoods8195 Ай бұрын

ironically if your game is 70$ i will wait until its 40$ before i buy it (my backlog is Massive).

@vigi1antvort3x41 Ай бұрын

Let this be a lesson to COD and Battlefield Players.

@samuelg7673 Ай бұрын

Dude no way will they care

@sijiadegoke Ай бұрын

These people are out to ruin gaming. Get ready for live service games to be the vast majority of games going forward. All those years ago when we were warned about "Mobile" taking over we foolishly thought that meant gaming on mobile devices. No. It just means bringing the behaviours and dark practices mobile users have been forced to swallow to console gamers. Time to go retro.

@EngineFD223 Ай бұрын

$130 for a single player experience is freaking insane. You're going to play that game once and never touch it again. I'll be honest, I almost never buy a game when it first comes out. I'll wait 6 months to a year for the game to be on sale for around $30-$40.

@silverian Ай бұрын

Thanks for weekly Playstation news! Release day of Stellar Blade is approaching 🙂

@einfachtot6017 Ай бұрын

i'm a bit sad that Dead Space 2 is not coming in the near future

@mig1017 Ай бұрын

Fr. I'm gutted

@PyromancerRift Ай бұрын

Of course it's unsustainable, if the game is trash and nobody buys it. It will also be unsustainable at 150$. But making good games at a good price is too much to ask. To me, 50$ for a quality game is fine. When i saw FF7 remake PT2 at 80$ i choked. I will never spend that much even if i absolutely love the game. I will buy it second hand and they will get 0$ from me. Especially knowing they recycled assets and the middleware is already done.

@dapperfan44 Ай бұрын

Why is the recycling of assets an issue? It already takes forever to make new games.

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

@@dapperfan44 If the second part of a game like this turns out to be more expensive than the first while re-using a lot of the assets etc something smells because if anything it would have been cheaper to make.

@255bb6 Ай бұрын

People want AAA game with long game play, high graphic fidelity, great story which costs lots of money to make. When they increased game price, people still complain about the price. When they talked about $50 game price 20 years ago, they forget about inflation. $50 in year 2000 is about $80-90 today. If you don’t want to pay $70 then wait for a discount which I also do.

@onehitsword6800 Ай бұрын

If there is a new Socom hope it's being made by Arrowhead not Bungie. Arrowhead showed they're better with online Games

@proskills991 Ай бұрын

Stuff we need in future PlayStation updates 1. Being able to separate party chat audio from recordings when sharing them 2. Being able to use voice keyboard inside of games 3. Fix an annoying bug that suspends your game when trying to save a clip with a full storage, thus deleting your clip 4. Being able to record System UI 5. Explore tab in all regions 6. This is more of a visual thing but it would be cool to make the default selection in the quick menu to be on the home button rather than being on the far left 7. I'm not a storage expert but if it's possible to make video clips and screenshots to save on your m.2 SSD that would be helpful! 8. Letting more 3rd party services the ability to create media apps for the PlayStation 9. PlayStation Stars being in all regions 10. Being able to check for updates in the library tab, this is currently limited to games that are on the homescreen 11. Backing up save files using a usb on PS5 and not being limited to cloud storage only These were some of the most important things that the current state for the PS5 software need after owning the console since launch day. Let me know if there are more options you'd like to see added in the replies and I'll add them to the list ⚠️⚠️ Re-share this comment in every PlayStation related video! ⚠️⚠️

@HahaideYo Ай бұрын

Makes me feel kinda old when I think about how new games used to only be $40 at most, it was usually only like $25 or $30 for the full game, but now you're literally paying $70 for a game you don't even know, it might be trash as hell but you can't not play the game you just paid $70 for, it's just crazy man Also, we all know why we're getting Stellar Blade.

@nathanlopez5610 Ай бұрын

In my view, if I think $70 is too much for a video game, I’ll just wait for it to go on sale at a price I see fit. It’s very rare for me these days to feel like I have to play something day one and by waiting I get a better idea of if I *really* want that game anyway.

@starmaster65 Ай бұрын

I have never bought a $70 ($90 CAD) nor do I ever plan to. $80 CAD was pushing it for me and I still barely bought any at full price, but I'm truly fed up with prices now, I'll buy used or on sale and that's it...

@Tampafan33 Ай бұрын

I miss the single player campaigns on socom

@sanctanox Ай бұрын

Rare on Playstation - finally. My first Rare game was in 1983 - "Jet Pac" for the Sinclair Spectrum. The name of the company was "Ultimate play the game" back in the days.

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

Sigh. I remember growing up when the whole dawn of the home computer thing was in full swing. Good times. Good games then too even if we would now call most of them unreasonably hard : )

@RmonteiroHQ Ай бұрын

when a 40 bucks game makes more money than a 70 bucks AAA, it shows that the problem is not the cost or the price, the profit is there, but i'm not gonna spend 70+ bucks on a shitty game with big graphics and brand name characters

@bt3743 Ай бұрын

And this is why i buy my games used. 20-30 dollars for games that came out two years ago

@hopefullyhigh Ай бұрын

And why the market is trying really hard to make everything digital only

@xBintu Ай бұрын

you don't need to buy it used after 2 years for 20 to 30 dollars 😂 they sell for 20 to 30 dollars new after that time anyway wtf even is used, just buy a key

@adamthiry868 Ай бұрын

@@xBintufor real. There are ways to get very cheap games buying keys at certain places

@jollama Ай бұрын

You know you can pay those same prices for new sealed games right?

@101lwx Ай бұрын

You can get persona 3 reload for like 35 now and that games only been out like 2 months lmao pre owned is definitely the way

@KROMERES Ай бұрын

Triple A game studios unnecessarily blow their budgets on Hollywood talent

@sammyexx Ай бұрын

this generation i havebought most of my games used. i was looking forward to a lot of games but while waiting to get a good deal on a used version i have lost interest entirely even in some of them

@AbernathyCrimson Ай бұрын

Sony has disproved this with Spider-Man 2, the fastest selling game made by PS. Nintendo has disproved this with Tears of the Kingdom. Rockstar will disprove this again with GTA VI. Many games have sold well at $70. Baldur’s Gate 3, Tekken 8, COD, Hogwarts Legacy (best selling of last year), etc.

@MrVenom973 Ай бұрын

Exactly,it all depends on the games, lots of ppl have zero issues paying $70 for a great game I regret none of the ones I've bought so far

@trillkev Ай бұрын

I’d happily pay for pretty much any well made, polished, and actually finished game. Not some $70 unfinished trash that has micro transactions and constant updates to fix the game.

@GG_Nowa 26 күн бұрын

Most those games came out polished. It's almost as if when then game comes out good people will spend the 70 bucks. But they're a huge outlier

@AbernathyCrimson 26 күн бұрын

@@GG_Nowa But most AAA games come out polished. Gamers love complaining about this, but it’s like one or two games max that come out busted each year. Last ones I can think of are CP2077 in 2020 and BF2042 in 2021. It’s rare.

@moister3727 Ай бұрын

Problem is now the market is flooded with 70$ high production shovelware. Only the good titles rise up in popularity thus selling a lot. Now there is a big distrust with the consumers towards, like any game now?

@FirstComments Ай бұрын

$70 only would work for game of the year games, and games that push the limits. Could work fine for GTA6. but most games should never do $70

@rockyramsy Ай бұрын

I do agree with you that a lot of publishers put a lot of content. But also they release unfinished games that are almost unplayable not before they release 3 to 4 patches

@NathanBMedia Ай бұрын

I think the interesting thing about the Community behind Socom and MAG is that they have held on for so long in hopes that they will hear something of the games returning. I'm in 3 discord servers for MAG that are all periodically getting new people to join waiting for the PS3 servers to turn back online with the DNS Server coding happening. I swear every two years I will hear something about Socom or MAG that always gets me hyped thinking maybe it'll return, and I think it's because the old Community hasn't found that itch to scratch those old games

@Cocoponya Ай бұрын

Saber is an absolutely legendary gaming company. Loved World War Z and they provided some good quality updates to the game over the years. Also looking forward to Alone in the Dark a lot. Had it as a kid but was too scared playing through it

@jonathanrivera8585 Ай бұрын

$70 for a game with technical problems plus $24.99 to $29.99 Season Pass and extra money for skins or other crap. Then they wonder what's the problem, or why people are playing their old library of games instead. We are basically paying already $90+ for many of todays AAA titles.

@eb1900 Ай бұрын

The more interesting question is how many buy base vs deluxe editions which are always 80 and up.

@Jonesy_1320 Ай бұрын

we need to see a release of the melissa merch shirt goes crazy hard

@heretic124 Ай бұрын

Spiderman 2 had like 4x budget of Spiderman 1. Can somebody explain to me why? What is soooooo different between these two games? They had the engine, the combat mechanics, most of the city already done. All they needed was motion capture, some new textures and put it all together to work. 4x the budget! Studios are bloated, just like in Hollywood. Japanese Godzilla Minus One has better CGI than any Marvel movie since like Infinity War yet it cost less than 15 million dollars. CGI garbage Hollywood produces costs 200-400 million dollars per movie and they all look like shit. There's a ton of nepotism and virtue signaling in both industries and people see it.

@bluphoenix6412 Ай бұрын

I remember listening to a podcast about how a CEO of Unilever of Europe talks about how American investors have this mentality of throwing huge amounts of money to make things work better. Hence why CEOs have such inflated salaries and compensations. The whole just throw more money at it to make it work better and faster. It was almost an hour long podcast. Just talking about his experience and all. That part stood out to me. It explains how things work here in the U.S. Having a passionate team and higher ups who actually care and treat their employees like actual human beings will yield far better results than just throwing more money at projects. Hopefully I got the message across. Felt like I rambled more than anything. 😅

@fluffymonkeyyy6617 Ай бұрын

Licensing fees probably

@altonb.1396 Ай бұрын

@@fluffymonkeyyy6617Did Spider-Man become 4x as valuable in 5 years or smth?

@jatnierdorta Ай бұрын

The money probably went to sweet baby inc or a similar company. Minus one was phenomenal!

@Virtualblueart Ай бұрын

@@bluphoenix6412 I wonder how much money was lost to Sweet Baby Inc's antics. I mean, rewriting whole scripts, uglifying existing models, redoing lots of dialogue, scrapping that dialogue again if it's not deemed to be on message enough, firing programmers and artist for not being woke enough and needing to hire new ones with less talent but more diversity, and of course their consultancy fee. That kind of waste can't have come cheap.

@Cpenguiner123 Ай бұрын

Ubisoft is a joke in the industry as everybody knows. They release 'AAAA' game with 70 usd pricetag, it gets discounted to 50, then 30, then 20 usd within a year. The question has to be asked: maybe you could have gotten more players if your inital price was around 50 usd.

@Deedric_Kee Ай бұрын

Thanks for the news on "Stellar Blade. Yeah it's a bit late for them on that 😊,but I still appreciate it. 👍

@hartley9958 Ай бұрын

The price starts climbing too high and you'll see people waiting till it goes on discount this could back fire on these developers, and they won't get that initial buyer drive that they used to get...

@ElOsoMarino Ай бұрын

The good thing about Outlaws is that you can pay for a month of Ubi+, finish it and be done with it for less than half the base price

@DaHoneyBadgr Ай бұрын

I’m so glad I got into gaming this mid last year and been busy 😂. Because of that the lackluster $70 games that are a waste of money don’t even catch my attention. Since there’s 10 years worth of games I’ve never touched. Masterpieces that gamers can’t go back to and enjoy like they did. And plus all the $70 games of the beginning generation constantly go on sale for like $30 so I’m chillin rn

@user-xs9vc2is8q Ай бұрын

In Australia, new games cost $125 for a standard edition. Ultimate editions are $200 or more. Add that with the $800 they charge for a console, its not very affordable to buy a lot of games let alone accessories.

@RebornThroughHate 19 күн бұрын

I always have such a long backlog of games to play that by the time I'm ready to play a title, it's on sale. I don't understand buying new, unpatched, no dlc-yet, expensive games.

@bellissimo4520 23 күн бұрын

As someone born in 1970, and having grown up with the whole 80's home computer generation, I'm always a bit confused about the whole complaints about AAA games costing 70 bucks. Back then, games that hardly would qualify as 2$ mobile title today cost sometimes just as much. I paid about 80 bucks for the Atari ST game "Time Bandit"... Of course the market was much MUCH smaller then, but so where the development teams (often just 1-5 guys) and development cycles. I guess what I'm saying is that getting games on the quality level of "God of War" or "Horizon" today, for the same or even less than I paid back then, doesn't seem all that bad to me. Of course it's another thing with live service games, or games heavily monetized with paid DLC and mtx, but for an actual complete, well done AAA game, 70 bucks seems fair.

@GazJrpg Ай бұрын

They are right £70 is unsustainable. They should lower them back to £50 maybe then I will start pre ordering games again

@joelf634 Ай бұрын

I think we should talk about quality,no price. If the quality is good I dont mind to pay higher price.

@davivman6009 Ай бұрын

The only $70+ dollar game I have bought to date is FF7 Rebirth special edition. It was $100 but I knew I would play it right away, I knew I wanted the CD soundtrack that came with it, and I knew that that physical edition with the CD wouldn’t be available in the future. I see no reason to buy most $70 games because in most cases those games are $40 or less within a few months.

@casieryback8932 Ай бұрын

A new AAA title here in Canada is $103.50 for the base/standard edition. NO THANKS.

@b1elal Ай бұрын

It’s way too much, I’ve been saying that since the PS5’s release

@DovahkiinChild Ай бұрын

One more thing to add about Raji's Native PS5 version is that it will include a platinum trophy! The PS4 version did not have this.

@DavidSRJR Ай бұрын

I am one of the people that play the stellar blade demo almost daily. With it carrying over to the main game and the combat being somewhat complicated, I feel that if I wait till the game comes out I will just end up forgetting the key gameplay elements. I only run the boss mode but it is pretty fun to change up the approach each time I do it.

@falscherkim3033 Ай бұрын

And this ladies and gentleman is how to proper market a game.

@DavideDavini Ай бұрын

Vampire Survivors is awesome. Cheers!

@TageChe98 Ай бұрын

I genuinely can’t remember the last time I bought a new game at full price. They’re just too expensive now. I just stick with gamepass and buy the odd game when It comes on offer

@blakejones3596 Ай бұрын

I honestly think the consumers wallet will break before the AAA industry and they will have to find a new way to be sustainable charging more will only work for so long, I think the problem is an abundance of 40 hour epics or live service games as well as too many cooks in the kitchen with the size of some of these studious they don’t need layoffs they need separation of projects instead of make title A balloon in budget and throw everyone at it to sell split your teams up and let them work on game BC and D at the same time as smaller projects and release them together me personally I would rather split my 70 between 2 or 3 maybe 6-8 hour experiences than on 40 hour one

@michaelhall9146 Ай бұрын

I have only paid $70 for a game once and that was for Tears of the Kingdom. I bought the voucher from Nintendo and then bought TotK.

@myopiniondoesntmatter7068 Ай бұрын

I bought maybe ~20-30 day 1 PS4 games during that cycle, varying from 39-89 AUD. Because they now want up to $120 AUD for PS5 games I have literally bought a single game at release (Demons Souls). I have bought 4 total (Fifa a month after for the big discount, two niche Japanese Dungeon RPGS) I'm still playing my PS4 backlog because lots of them play incredibly different. I bought Kakarot day 1 on PS4. Got pissed at how bad the frame rate was and how attrocious the load times were (20-55 second times every single area transition). It was a big reason why I got a launch day PS5 - even though I didnt finally play it till last month because I heard it was getting an upgrade patch and just kept waiting. There is zero chance I end this generation with 50+ PS5 games like I did last gen. Prices went insane and everyone's wages didn't move with them. They can argue all this BS about $70 isn't enough blah blah blah. Its bullshit. Every year more and more people are getting into games, you don't need to raise prices if you have far more people interested. Its not the 1990's where gaming was this super niche thing and even then treated as a side hobby (largely because there were very few games coming out and even less with quality) Then there's the whole BS about games aren't even finished or stable on release and they want silly prices for it. Or it gets properly fixed 6+ months later. There's very very little reason to buy a game on release day anymore as you just get punished multiple times for it - once by the price and twice by the horrible issues that plague 80% of games.

@Anarchyontheweb Ай бұрын

i'd get used off ebay or eb games before forking out what theyre asking sticker price

@CorporateZombi Ай бұрын

Conveniently games are most expensive when they are broken at launch. So its easy to wait. Plus there are so many now. The only games you might actually have to buy near launch are short-lived multiplayer games.

@Marcuri Ай бұрын

The excuse of games getting more expensive to justify 70-80 bucks is ridiculous to anyone who stops to think for a second. Yes ganes take more to make and cost more. But so did the industry grow to being the number one profitable media in the world.... so realistically in terms of profit they should be similar to 20 years ago. They only just want to milk the most of it. Period. They can increase all they want. I stopped buying new games when games stopped being 50 bucks on release date.

@vassili3000 Ай бұрын

I‘m with Ryan on the 70 USD being not just normal, but also way cheaper than it was in the 90s or even a decade ago. In 1995 fifty dollars (a price of a game that was often not what people expected) had the purchasing power of a hundred dollars of today. As the games industry grows, so too grow the volume of games coming out every year and the expectations for every next game to be bigger and better. So of course statistically there will be more games that are mediocre but still come at a full price. There is also a strange sense of entitlement present in the industry nowadays that I don’t remember gamers had some mere 10 years ago.

@rpeck2832 Ай бұрын

Cutting postions that are not needed and making development time more efficient are two things that will help reduce costs.

@JeannieLove Ай бұрын

I think we're past the point if viewing lower cost games as being lesser quality. Plus I feel you can still have your bigger budget games while subsidizing the cost with cheaper games that maybe run better and don't take as long to make.

@ancientandbored Ай бұрын

Came for the news, stayed for the t-shirt 😻

@Crashed131963 Ай бұрын

Luckily I'm so behind on my games that by the time I get to a game it's on sale or in a bargain bin . I, m just playing HFW and got the game for $10 in a pawnshop bargain bin. How much was that game on release? There are still over a ten thousand ps4 games I have not played yet and 155 ps4 games to replay with the 4k/60 patch .

@brandonscott3423 Ай бұрын

The problem with most 70 dollar games is that they’re broken or have less content at launch than 60 dollar games had that’s why it’s unsustainable most people don’t trust games day 1 anymore

@niellbecker3364 Ай бұрын

Great video as always Ryan. I look at my games also on a £ per hour basis…..eg helldivers has cost me about 75p per hour so far, Elden ring (after 2 play throughs) 60p per hour…..very few other art/entertainment forms have that level of value for me. Not sure I’d ever want to pay per hour for game, but this helps me accept more the upfront cost. 😊

@key099able Ай бұрын

There is also silly me who haven’t even started 7 Rebirth despite the fact I bought the game day 1 and haven’t even untapped it from the plastic.

@EternalNightingale Ай бұрын

Last $70 games I bought were Spider-Man 2 and before that GOWR, next is stellar blade after I don’t see any games on my radar worth full price anymore just wait till they’re $40 or lower

@XMotoMedia94 Ай бұрын

Games this gen are discounted 30-60 days after release for the most part

@amy9867 Ай бұрын

$70, try living in a country where they are $100-120 😭

@dudefromtheearth Ай бұрын

Man Ryan talk about some great game news giving PlayStation users much to look forward to! I'm glad that you spoke up about $70.00 games and I feel that there is a good argument to be made there. You certainly made a lot of good points when it comes to the cost of games, but what I appreciate about you most about it all is acknowledging that times are hard and many gamers are being careful about how they are spending their money. I look at it this way. If you are going to get a lot out of a $70 game compared to a cheaper new game that's a good point if you're going to put the time into the game as much as you spent on that particular AAA game that's likely going to be a long game. I never thought about it until you made that logical stand point.

@Cardoso71875 Ай бұрын

We were paying $60 in 05, adjusting that for inflation equals $96.00. Should be thankful only paying $70

@savemelakitu Ай бұрын

Really excited to see Videogamedunkeys first publishing project, Animal Well on PS+!

@patrickedwards8303 Ай бұрын

Ryan, on Pre-Order also is Black Myth dis month as a long announcement from some years fah ps5, finally getting released, yet somehow dey should do a demo test too, be so cool testing dat game. Can't wait. 🤙🏾😁🇯🇲

@anthonyamoise Ай бұрын

I personally think that the SOCOM franchise has great potential in today's gaming landscape. It can be a fantastic co-op tactical shooter if the right amount of effort is put into it. Sony is definitely sitting on tons of great opportunities when you look at old/dead franchises in their game library.

@mikevegas87 Ай бұрын

I really hope that the time of all time exclusives would be over. Perhaps timed ones would be ok, but enough permanent ones.

@killerclownsintown Ай бұрын

What’s the name of the next to last game that had the guy in the Armour suit with the bell dropping scene..

@TARS.. Ай бұрын

Warhammer 40k space marine 2

@killerclownsintown Ай бұрын

I knew someone would come through. Thank you so much! Blessing to you and your family!!

@cringo08 Ай бұрын

I used to buy most games day one but since the £70 price came in I mainly wait for a sale now.

@Zirus_Blackheart Ай бұрын

When Street Fighter 2 (Turbo possibly) came out on the snes back in the mid 90s it was £65

@charliemilroy6497 Ай бұрын

If Rare bring Rare Replay to PS5, then I'll be very interested

@thatonegeeksite5251 Ай бұрын

I would love to see a new socom game or a release of the og trilogy. So many great memories with that series.

@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu Ай бұрын

Heres a notion. If games were $50 so a reduction of 30% in price. Would sales go up by more than 30%? If so they will actually make more money by dropping the price