70lb vs 80lb Draw Weight Mathews Lift | 80lb Bow Review

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4 ай бұрын

70lb vs 80lb draw weight, does anyone really need to shoot an 80lb bow and how does a 70lb bow stack up next to an 80lb bow? Well we're here to answer those questions and show the difference speeds these two draw weights are putting up by shooting 3 different arrow weights between them. Enjoy.
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@bartlawhorn2762
@bartlawhorn2762 4 ай бұрын
Been shooting archery for over 55 years and about every 25 years the 80# and saddle harness debates stir up again.
@brendanwood5243
@brendanwood5243 4 ай бұрын
The real question is, why is it a debate?
@alecnichols3700
@alecnichols3700 4 ай бұрын
​@@brendanwood5243people are selling crap
@voxpopuli905
@voxpopuli905 3 ай бұрын
@@brendanwood5243yup. Better is better. That simple. If ya ask me, it’s the pussys who can’t pull 80 pounds who try to debate this stuff
@itzwade
@itzwade 4 ай бұрын
Nice job on the video. I’d love to see you guys do a battle of the 80 pound bows. RVX 4 in particular
@207backwoods
@207backwoods 4 ай бұрын
Could you do at 60 pound and 70 pound comparison so us with shoulder problems
@justinmahan7860
@justinmahan7860 4 ай бұрын
I did it with my hoyt and it was about 10 to 15fps slower depending on arrow weight
@landenmorris2421
@landenmorris2421 4 ай бұрын
@@justinmahan7860what is your arrow weight
@justinmahan7860
@justinmahan7860 4 ай бұрын
​@landenmorris2421 one was 386 and the other 406. I stand right up on my chrono. The 386 was 295 at 70.8 then 285 at 65. The 406 bout the same. 288 then 282 at 65. Didn't do 60lb
@KkeshavvRaastogi-cq5hl
@KkeshavvRaastogi-cq5hl 3 ай бұрын
Most Organised To The Point and Genune on You tube . Thanks sir . 👍👍👍👍
@bluelinewhitetails6205
@bluelinewhitetails6205 4 ай бұрын
Good shit. Been looking for this info. Thank you.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@raycooper931
@raycooper931 4 ай бұрын
I'm 52 glad to see the 80 pound bow years ago I used a 92 pound I just like the pounds using the 75 pound phase 4 currently. My local archery shop is davenport's archery and they carry mathews so that's what I shoot there a really great bow .thanks for the video.
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 4 ай бұрын
You don’t “need” 70 to kill anything in North America, but a more energy never hurts…..’Murica!
@transgenderedmuhammad8817
@transgenderedmuhammad8817 4 ай бұрын
Most people who say you don’t need 80lbs, haven’t actually shot 80lbs. It’s not much of a difference compared to 70lbs. These new bows make drawing 80lbs feel like older bows at 70lbs. 80lbs all the way!
@paulkysar6207
@paulkysar6207 4 ай бұрын
Pulling 80lbs feels like pulling 80lbs, nothing can change this fact. Some people say their pack makes the load feel lighter..... Nope.
@transgenderedmuhammad8817
@transgenderedmuhammad8817 4 ай бұрын
@@paulkysar6207 You obviously haven’t pulled one of the new ones back then clown
@gandalf2256
@gandalf2256 Ай бұрын
​@paulkysar6207 dumb comment. Sounds like you need to pick more bows up. The pack analogy is garbage too.
@transgenderedmuhammad8817
@transgenderedmuhammad8817 Ай бұрын
@@paulkysar6207 You’ve never pulled back 80lbs on these new bows have you?
@krisaunedi4920
@krisaunedi4920 4 ай бұрын
Right big dog cool review and I can understand what your trying to tell us all here that there is a difference when you change draw weight on your compound bow. Can I ask you is that what would you consider a good draw weight for being efficient for hunting anything in north America. Again great information and work that you do and keep up the great work you do. Full respect for you buddy!!!😊
@alecnichols3700
@alecnichols3700 4 ай бұрын
Historically a majority of bows from the tribes on the America's almost never went about 60lb most were closer to 30lb if you want to hunt everything in north America you can with a 50lb compound bow
@eriklocker1408
@eriklocker1408 4 ай бұрын
Just ordered a mathews lift 33 with 80 pound mods!! Probably won't see it until July 😂😂, but worth it. Love your channel 💪💪
@highcountryadventures9606
@highcountryadventures9606 4 ай бұрын
Nice video. Im currently shooting a 90lb apa king cobra xr 715gr arrow at 275 fps. With a 29" draw length. I am a heavy arrow kind of guy and i like shooting heavy arrows fast. I appreciate videos on heavier draw weight bows
@HBOutdoors_
@HBOutdoors_ 4 ай бұрын
Man it’s crazy how very little specs change a lot. I was able to get 322 fps at 80lbs with a 445 grain arrow at 29.5 inches of draw length. Not bashing or bragging I just like to share my info and setup. For people that don’t believe me I have a KZfaq shorts video showing everything
@gabrielhouston5660
@gabrielhouston5660 4 ай бұрын
Love your videos! Simple yet informative!! Keep it up!
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking us out
@user-mr8mr4tl7t
@user-mr8mr4tl7t 4 ай бұрын
Love to see this same video with the Hoyt RX 8 Ultra. I think it's a much smoother draw and would be curious about the speeds from 70 to 80 lbs. Great video!
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
We’ll be dropping one once we get some more 80lbers in
@josephdipietro8367
@josephdipietro8367 4 ай бұрын
I currently shoot 70lbs and I appreciate the videos.
@heroestrainingsystems1068
@heroestrainingsystems1068 4 ай бұрын
Great video. Currently shooting a 700g at 31.5”DL at 250fps 75# and silent with the Atlas. Shot a 33” Lift a couple days ago at 70# and was very impressed. Adding a bow to the rack with 80# mods sounds exciting.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Let’s go!
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610
@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 4 ай бұрын
80lb bows have really become popular, they were hard to find at one time!
@antiquebowieknifechannel4611
@antiquebowieknifechannel4611 4 ай бұрын
I couldn’t get back 80 lbs in a bow press! 😂
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
haha
@stephengatley8144
@stephengatley8144 4 ай бұрын
I've shot the SX80 & VTM 34 @80lb & they were soo smooth it felt easy. My V3X 33 is a fkin monster at 75lb soo aggressive!. 80lb is bow dependant some easy some mongrel!
@ryanwells5524
@ryanwells5524 4 ай бұрын
Its usually always been the guys that cant pull 80 lbs that make those lame comments lol I’m 52 now and can still pull it if I need to!
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 let’s go!
@Minnesotalife
@Minnesotalife 4 ай бұрын
I have a 2012 Hoyt rampage sitting at 83.26 lbs & I get 287 fps with a 470 grain arrow. I also hunt in Minnesota & I don’t have a problem with it in the cold.
@Matt-jl8xf
@Matt-jl8xf 4 ай бұрын
Problem is there are WAY too many people these days that are over bowed. I see it all the time. People struggling to draw smoothly, but just because they "can" get it back, they think its fine, but their form and shot suffers severely. Their ego gets in the way of building an accurate shot with good form. If you can draw 80 lbs smoothly and then shoot 60-100 arrows in a range session, then by all means go for it... and I don't want to hear "but I only need 1 shot for hunting" ... if that's how you think, get a crossbow because you owe the animal you are shooting at to be proficient and accurate with you bow, and that means being extremely comfortable with your bow, which means being able to draw it and shoot it for 60+ arrows in a session. Where you hunt also plays a role. Out west I might push it a little bit, but where I hunt, 70lbs is more than enough for anything. 60lbs is even plenty. Being accurate is waay more important than drawing heavy weight but can only shoot 8" groups. Thats my rant on the matter anyways. The more people shooting bows, the better. I just like to see people build solid fundamentals and get concerned with how many people I see that are over-bowed these days.
@gordonneverdies
@gordonneverdies 3 ай бұрын
I've been thinking about switching to a 50 lb bow lately. I just love being able to draw super slow and easy when hunting.
@therealsehrlich
@therealsehrlich 4 ай бұрын
Interesting information, thanks for posting this. Like others have requested I would be curious to see the 60 to 70 pound comparison and even the 50 to 60 pound comparison. Almost bought a Lift 29.5, and still am very interested but I got an offer to buy a carbon bow I couldn't refuse. lol I may still pick up the lift though.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@pennyontrack
@pennyontrack 4 ай бұрын
@@extremeoutfittersthank you
@omm7763
@omm7763 3 ай бұрын
I personally like 65 pounds. And at 50 yards I usually get1 10. I'm now shooting the Matthews lift 29.5. And I really like this bow. It is small and it has given me a challenge. But there's nothing wrong with it. I need to tune my steadiness length with the back wall. I've been shooting for over 40 years, and this is the only bow that is not carbon fiber that now I have fell in love with! I do personally like the carbon fiber. But man, the 29.5 is the smallest and most forgiven. I am using 12 inch stabilizer out front and the 8 inch stabilizer veered off on the back.
@dhodgkiss
@dhodgkiss 4 ай бұрын
I love my bow. I am shooting a Mathews monster MR6 30.5 inch draw and 80 lbs. I live out west and want my arrow to shot extremely flat and have the highest energy I can. Im lucky to hunt elk every year.
@acmontoya69
@acmontoya69 4 ай бұрын
Where can you get the tool you held in your hand to measure the draw weight? Is it reliable or do you need to have an arrow in when you use it? Thank you!
@fulldrawassassins
@fulldrawassassins 4 ай бұрын
Lancaster Archery Last Chance Hand Held Scale Yes, because if the D-loop broke, you'd dry fire the bow. The arrow prevents a dry fire event.
@user-vs4qw7ec4r
@user-vs4qw7ec4r 4 ай бұрын
I shoot on older pse persion series 1000c compound bow is a whisker biscuit holder good for this bow set at 60 pounds and draw length at 30 inches
@zachniverson8816
@zachniverson8816 4 ай бұрын
They marginally slow the arrow and affect flight. Most would tell u to run a good drop away
@joelbetcher92
@joelbetcher92 4 ай бұрын
I shot the 29.5 @ 30” and 80# with a 420grain arrow and got 322fps, screamer
@ljavier09
@ljavier09 4 ай бұрын
I like your review and I'm Curious if you can tell if there is a difference in the feel of the draw cycle between the 29.5" and the 33" lift at the 80lb mods. If one feels more resistance than the other, or one is easier to pull? My draw is 28" and am currently at 70lbs. I can easily handle 72lbs from my Mathews v3 31. I'm looking really hard at the lift and trying to decide between the 29.5" or the 33" with either the 75lb or 80lb mods and can go either one honestly with my style of hunting and shooting. Am looking for kinda a sweet spot of ease of draw and speed. Thanks for any input or suggestions.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
The 33 is not as stiff as the 29.5 at 80lbs. The 33 is definitely more forgiving feeling
@ljavier09
@ljavier09 4 ай бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated!@@extremeoutfitters
@jarredmeadows8160
@jarredmeadows8160 4 ай бұрын
Do a 80lb Mach 30, it’ll upset those Mathew’s fans. Smoother draw and faster.
@JustinMussen
@JustinMussen 4 ай бұрын
And no where near as stable and not much faster. And ugly as hell. Risk of chipping carbon. The lift holds 10x better than the Mach 30. Shot them both on launch day. Left with a 29.5 lift
@jarredmeadows8160
@jarredmeadows8160 4 ай бұрын
To each their own. My thinking was the complete opposite, I had every intention of going in and walking out with a lift and for me the lift draws like a brick.Didn’t see the hype but glad it works well for you 🤘🏼
@sticks0012
@sticks0012 4 ай бұрын
Buddies dad was a smaller gentleman and bow hunted his whole life.He tuned our bows when we were kids.He pulled 80 lbs up into his seventies.Mind you the let off was alot less back in the day.He had several aluminum arrows that were stacked. Best shot in camp by far.
@jordanpowell228
@jordanpowell228 4 ай бұрын
Love hearing about guys like that. They will become less and less common as time goes on
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Love it!
@nathanwebb4784
@nathanwebb4784 2 ай бұрын
Any idea what speeds I’d see with a 27.5 inch draw shooting the 75 pound mods with a 430gr arrow? My current setup is 436gr @280fps. Trying to get more speed!
@jasoncourchaine3685
@jasoncourchaine3685 4 ай бұрын
I shot 80lbs for years, dropped down to 70lbs ten years ago on my elk and moose bow and down to 60lbs on my deer and black bear hunting bow. 80lbs is awesome when your young and strong, but as you get into your forties you better consider your shoulders. That said I didn't loose much speed going to a 70 pounder, I just went with a faster bow, smaller BH, now im shooting a pse omen EC2, its fast and smooth
@-SkiDz-
@-SkiDz- Ай бұрын
For reference my bow shoots a 600 grain arrow around 160fps hard to believe ive had several clean pass throughs on indiana deer.
@joshvanderley6277
@joshvanderley6277 4 ай бұрын
Lift 33. 75# 30” draw 533 grains 281 FPS
@critter852004
@critter852004 4 ай бұрын
I was always curious the difference in FPS with a 70 lbs in comfort compared to a 60 lbs bow in performance with a Bowtech
@morder1965
@morder1965 4 ай бұрын
5/10
@stephengatley8144
@stephengatley8144 4 ай бұрын
My 75 lb V3X @30 is lobbing 540 grain arrows at 283fps with over 95ft-lbs more than enough for cape york buffalo!.
@whenwineruledchina4536
@whenwineruledchina4536 17 күн бұрын
Early Chinese were said to use 135 pound pull weight bows. Is this possible? They hunted rhinocerous, tiger, and buffalo and needed power. Any guestimate on velocity? I have no idea of arrow weight and length.
@david.6040
@david.6040 4 ай бұрын
How much does adding a inch of draw length increase speed typically?
@jroutdooradventures
@jroutdooradventures 4 ай бұрын
About 10 feet
@poppasmurf15
@poppasmurf15 4 ай бұрын
If you are buying a lift, make sure you shoot several bows on their shelf… My lift 33 shot 291 at 68.5lbs 28” 425gr There’s more speed available than is shown in this video
@michaelrobindon9812
@michaelrobindon9812 4 ай бұрын
In most cases every bow will shoot roughly 2 fps per every pound of peak weight that you add.
@whitebear306
@whitebear306 4 ай бұрын
Test the speed at different distances. 30, 40 & 50 yards.
@Bowsonthebrain
@Bowsonthebrain 4 ай бұрын
It would very depending on the vanes and how much helical or offset each of those vanes has, because the drag would be different for all of them. I guess they could try it with a bare shaft
@danielshields34
@danielshields34 2 ай бұрын
Finally someone testing with an arrow over 500gr. 600 is getting to heavy 😂
@nathanswede1788
@nathanswede1788 4 ай бұрын
Do this with rx8 pls
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Coming soon!
@tonyviers-de9qi
@tonyviers-de9qi 4 ай бұрын
I don’t shoot 80 and I don’t recommend it . But , good video , some guys just love to push the limits .
@gregb699
@gregb699 4 ай бұрын
Not that impressive. I'm getting 304fps with a 430 gr arrow out of my 5 year old Elite Option 6 at 70lb and a 29in draw thought the speeds would be a lot faster at 80lb
@kaidgorringe120
@kaidgorringe120 4 ай бұрын
I've heard a lot of manufacturers say that the technology available today has pretty much maxed out speed on bows. There are a lot of other compromises that need to happen if you want to push an arrow faster, including accuracy, noise, longevity of the system, and so on.
@jxhkb
@jxhkb 4 ай бұрын
Making videos on 80# mods, but not available for customers online.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
They sell out quick
@stevestoddard4491
@stevestoddard4491 4 ай бұрын
I actually picked up a pair online at extremeoutfitters. Keep trying they do exist. Thank you for what you do.
@edcopeland9373
@edcopeland9373 4 ай бұрын
1o pound increase for 20 fee per second speed
@MaxxHDROM
@MaxxHDROM 4 ай бұрын
do you need it? no... but its AMERICA.. hehehe love it
@jakecarter1160
@jakecarter1160 4 ай бұрын
So ... 333ish ibo at 435 and 70 with a crappy draw? No thanks! I shot one the other day and it felt stiff and humpy to me.
@tullymahin
@tullymahin 4 ай бұрын
If you're not shooting 100#s then you aint doing nothing.
@Jaydon_outdoors
@Jaydon_outdoors 4 ай бұрын
I have my bow maxed out at 72lbs but I’m 12years old but getting an 80lb bow next year
@user-iy1gp5zc9t
@user-iy1gp5zc9t 4 ай бұрын
PSEMACHE30 80ro70?
@arisdelis1
@arisdelis1 Ай бұрын
PSE Full throttle + PSE OMEN MAX + Mathews XLR8 + Mathews MR5 + 350grain arrow.......thats a Steel Cage Match McMahon...all 5' BH ..all speed bows... this video is a ploy to sell you a $3k bow that is SLOW and overpriced...Why won't he shoot a 340g or 350g arrow with 80lb limbs? Why not make a LIFT with a 5' BH and with 80lb limbs? Why would anyone shoot a 430/500/600 grain arrow...unless zebra..or buffalo hunting???
@christiantorres6118
@christiantorres6118 4 ай бұрын
80 lbs is not for everyone. Especially cry babies.
@johnnewcomb5162
@johnnewcomb5162 4 ай бұрын
Women last year taking down elk mule deer and javelina with 335 grain arrow 42 lbs. The problem starts when they 80 lb guys start blaming broadheads ect every year, for not recovering the animals they hit.
@Crazyhaywire
@Crazyhaywire 4 ай бұрын
Lets see what your trt therapy and your bald head can do with that bow "unedited" at 100 yards.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Sick burn bro
@charlesroberts1705
@charlesroberts1705 4 ай бұрын
Don't order this bow it is junk
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Define junk
@RezneckRides
@RezneckRides 4 ай бұрын
Only jocks shoot anything over 65lbs and have no business being out in the mountains. Stay in the gym and out of the field.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like high school was rough on you
@RezneckRides
@RezneckRides 4 ай бұрын
@@extremeoutfitters stick to rifles and keep to the city😘
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
@@RezneckRides who hurt you
@RezneckRides
@RezneckRides 4 ай бұрын
@extremeoutfitters just hating on hotdogs who think they are tough pulling that much weight on their bows when it’s unnecessary. 55lbs will kill just about anything you’re hunting here in the good ole’ US. “Keep Hammering” fuckin’ kooks😉😀
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 4 ай бұрын
Why is it always the soft goofy dudes who hate anyone stronger than them.
@td1145
@td1145 3 ай бұрын
These bows all shipped with 85% let off mods and to say there is no dump into the valley is a joke. The 80% mods are much better and add a few FPS.
@extremeoutfitters
@extremeoutfitters 3 ай бұрын
It really depends on the individual and what they deem acceptable
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