792: Emma Smith's 2nd Marriage to Lewis Bidamon (Mark Scherer 3 of 4)

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Few people in the LDS Church know that Emma Smith married again. This time it was a non-Mormon man by the name of Lewis Bidamon. Dr Mark Scherer details how they met, and how Emma raised Lewis's child from an affair! We'll also talk about her grandson, Fred M Smith, who caused a lot of ripples in the RLDS Church. Check out our conversation...
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0:00 Emma's 2nd Marriage to Lewis Bidamon
20:00 Fred M Smith: "Worst Prophet Ever!"
30:27 CoC World Conference
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@rconger24 11 ай бұрын

We (LDS couple) visited the Red Brick Store, Homestead and Mansion House in May having a lovely time. We enjoyed some $2.30 cold rootbeer. We paid double $10 each for the the tour so as to help more with the upkeep of the museum. Worth every penny! That's good Emma finally got to keep her property during an era when, for a woman, ,owning property was by no means certain .

@bookmedia67 11 ай бұрын

These CofC interviews you did at their conference are fantastic! I am learning so much. Thanks as always.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

Glad you like them! They were fun to do!

@saldomino1639 2 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation brothers thank you !

@GospelTangents 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@cameron9643 5 ай бұрын

Just watched. Going to watch again and probably going to get his books. This is a knowledge fountain.

@KBColeLong 3 сағат бұрын

I am Latter Day Saint. My question is: why should our church expound on Emma Smith's life after she left the church and decided to stay in the East?

@tgray747 11 ай бұрын

I have heard many good and favorable stories about Emma. Am LDS.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

I think the 1970s was the pivotal decade. Emma's comeback was in the 1980s. She was still talked poorly of in the 1960s. 70 s was mixed.

@tgray747 11 ай бұрын

@@GospelTangents You should do another interview and focus on Joseph F vs. Joseph III 😁

@rconger24 11 ай бұрын

@@tgray747yes, but why not make peace?

@tgray747 11 ай бұрын

@@rconger24 Why not revisit the past and actually what happened AND we can also make peace. I would like to see the interactions and have no desire to cause contention. It is what is and we appreciate the progress that has been made since then.

@peterblair4448 11 ай бұрын

What a fantastic discussion. Such interesting differences!

@westonwoodbury3011 8 ай бұрын

Lds here but I hope Joseph beat Brigham on the other side with an eternal whooping for how he treated Emma, and for “turning the truth of God into a lie”! Emma was truly an elect lady .

@elizabethbeus 4 ай бұрын

The RLDS view is very skewed! Joseph loved Brigham! No whipping needed! Emma was determined to stay put to be with Lucy and to keep her children safe. Not to mention how weary she must have been with the uncertainty of the move. There might have been disagreements between Brigham and Emma, but he wasn't hateful!!

@Dave-if5qj 4 ай бұрын

The life of Emma Smith and her children after the death of Joseph Smith have alwas Been an interesting history And its good to hear it told And not swept under the rug

@debluce8607 11 ай бұрын

Whiteside county is directly across the river from me. I have heard she came to Fulton, Il which is across the bridge from Clinton. 5 miles from me.😊

@jillschneider2953 11 ай бұрын

This guy has great stories. I really enjoyed this video, Rick. I’m not even LDS or C of C, but a fan of history, especially history of things that happened in/around Missouri.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Mark & I talked for 3 hours, but we could have gone on much longer! I hope to get him back on. He's great.

@grneal26 Ай бұрын

I wonder how Mark feels about the Kirtland temple and all the most recent purchases by the LDS church?

@GospelTangents Ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure he was devastated. Every CoC member I've met has been.

@yttube4319 11 ай бұрын

CoC (RLDS) is very very different theologically, structurally, financially and culturally from LDS. If Emma had say died of illness or in childbirth much earlier than she did, I imagine the path of the two churches would have been very different.

@boysrus61 11 ай бұрын

In your opinion, in what ways? Do you think Emma caused the split?

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo 11 ай бұрын

I had hoped for some President Joseph F Smith vs President Joseph Smith III stories! hahah

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

Me too!

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo 11 ай бұрын

Mark was my supervisor when I worked for the world church headquarters in Independence 1995-1997. He is a great guy, funny, and supportive as a manager. @@GospelTangents

@tamicox990 11 ай бұрын

What about Lucy Mack?

@jaredvaughan1665 3 ай бұрын

I admire Emma Smith a lot more after watching Michelle Stone's "132 Problems" KZfaq channel. She succeeds in showing Joseph Smith never practiced nor advocated for polygamy. I can see why Emma did not want to follow the Saints out west.

@GospelTangents 3 ай бұрын

Emma has much to be admired for. Michelle Stone is a friend of mine, but she is 100% wrong on Joseph's practice of polygamy. She needs to learn historical methods and quit believing everything she disagrees with is a forgery. Please look at peer-reviewed sources. Even Dr Mark Scherer knows Joseph practiced polygamy, despite his church denying the fact for 100 years.

@kenn080 24 күн бұрын

Talk about Gospel Entanglements, Joseph Smith Jr. WAS Lewis Bidamon.

@GospelTangents 23 күн бұрын

What are you smoking?

@pamelarust3487 11 ай бұрын

members are not destroyed by your sign on the red brick store. If that is exaggerated, and it is, perhaps it is exaggerated in other areas.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

Why are you so defensive? You don't need to be.

@pamelarust3487 11 ай бұрын

@@GospelTangents I Ike truth not exaggerations.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

@@pamelarust3487 you need to relax a lot of that bothers you so bad.

@bobwilkinson1217 11 ай бұрын

The presidency and the 12 have the authority over all, money especially.

@solomoncasilen7362 11 ай бұрын

Oh my goodness the mons fir the restored gospel evolve and become business coro

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

I don't understand

@solomoncasilen7362 11 ай бұрын

@@GospelTangents modern mobs of the restored gospel is growing as the saints and followers of Christ keep expanding exceedingly. Nothing can stop the work of God to all people regardless of these money making podcasts and more.😊😎

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

@@solomoncasilen7362 we had a prophet killed by a mob in 1844. The persecution is so much better now. We actually had a presidential candidate who almost won in 2012. He was a Mormon. This rhetoric is foolish and stupid. And oh by the way my podcast won't even pay my car payment right now. So yeah what a money making endeavor

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo 11 ай бұрын

The World Church Conferences for Community of Christ have been three year cycles for a bit now, but interrupted by COVID-19. Now it seems we might be back to 2 years, with our covid19 delayed conference this year 2023, and a new one being called for 2025 to accept/approve the newly called prophet/president.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

My understanding is the last conference was 4 years ago, and this 2 year will get them back on 3 year cycles.

@Donnie-Lee-Gringo 11 ай бұрын

Yes that makes sense too! @@GospelTangents

@norsk888 11 ай бұрын

Much of discussion centered around theocracy vs democracy!

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

where?

@angelwings1446 4 ай бұрын

Is known in the lds church

@GospelTangents 4 ай бұрын

Poorly known

@sandymalais7359 11 ай бұрын

Gospel Tangents… Please do not represent The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints! I’m 59 yrs old, a member of the church, and have heard of Lewis B. My whole life! I was never taught that “the church members” had any type of feelings towards Emma except admiration, respect, and love!! Please do not misrepresent members of the church!

@pauletteforeman2194 11 ай бұрын

Brigham Young and Emma did not get along. That is the truth.

@GospelTangents 11 ай бұрын

Most people feel differently. I am glad you had good experiences with Emma, but I stand by my comments.

@bookmedia67 11 ай бұрын

Brigham Young, 10/6/1886, at the SLC Tabernacle: "To my certain knowledge Emma Smith is one of the damnest liars I know of on this earth; yet there is no good thing I would refuse to do for her, if she would only be a righteous woman."

@boysrus61 11 ай бұрын

Do you remember back in the late 70's or early 80's when the church made an announcement to stop bad talking about Emma? I joined the church in '76 and I can clearly remember that there was a negative atmosphere around anything Emma. I seem to remember the feeling was that she somehow was disloyal to Joseph for not going out west and then remarrying. I wish I could remember better what year SLC said this.

@sandymalais7359 11 ай бұрын

@@boysrus61 I was blessed to grow up in the church. And maybe I was sheltered a little, with certain topics within the church. It was a very small town in CA. There was only two other girls my age at times that attended my ward, the only ward in town! For whatever reason, I have always loved Emma, and loved reading and hearing about her life. Thank you for your reply. 😊