A little explanation of how the Hit and Miss Engine operates and functions, with a little help from SmallEngineMechanic Mike. Check out Mikes channel at / smallenginemechanic
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@joesphx1912 жыл бұрын
My uncle had a farm in upper NY. When I was a youngster I spent the most memorable summer there in the early 60s. I'll never forget he had an original hit and miss engine that was first bought and used on the farm back in the teens. It still worked! While he kept that one engine going his life's hobby was restoring Ford Model Ts and As. Thanks to all of you guys that keep these mechanical devices running, you are heroes in my book for helping us remember America the way it was.
@robertoswalt3197 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo and explanation. I had heard how they worked but nothing beats a live demonstration.
@mikeadrover517310 жыл бұрын
Just went to my first steam engine fair; and discovered hit & miss engines. “As always, thanks’ for taking the time to make this video!” ~M~
@akuyume710 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this informative video; old machines like these fascinate me!
@howaboutdis5008 жыл бұрын
hey man thanks for this video. I've been a four wheeler mechanic all my life and turning wrenches with my dad since I was old enough to pick one up and always wondered how those hit n miss engines worked. always so cool to hear em run. I'm in West Virginia and would love to find an antique motor show and see em in person.
@januaryman1699 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining how these work. I love listening to these engines.
@johndoyle47239 жыл бұрын
Excellent, many thanks, I love these hit and miss engines, the sound always reminds me of the steam shows. Good luck.
@Smokercraft42710 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I felt like a hit and miss motor is just one of many pieces of history that as a "younger" guy I should learn about and understand how they work. They're a cool part of our history. Really it's where it all started. Without them I wonder how long it would have taken for the internal combustion engine to come along? Can't imagine how much of a back saver these had to be to those lucky enough to be able to afford one.
@NOMADdaf6 жыл бұрын
These are internal combustion engines.
@DeltonAdamsLEGO Жыл бұрын
My grandfather built a hit and miss engine out of a briggs and stratton lamnmower engine. I've always been fascinated by the way it works.
@adamasz5410 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot - being a mech.eng. I had a slight idea on those primary engines with only one valve controlled by cam+pushrod with a centrifugal regulator. But they were the parents of OHV with both valves pushrod controlled, and modern OHC as known today. Quite a nice lesson from young connaisseurs of int.combustion engines.
@chipwright619310 жыл бұрын
Nice Hit & Miss explanation. I've got an old 1.5 HP Hercules that was given to me that I hope to restore some day. I'm still gathering parts. Those old engines are fun to play around with.
@kazuza99 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video, now I understand how this engine works, this is an amazing simple machine, I wish someone with start building hit and miss engines. it seems like they don t exist anymore.
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! It's Guys like your Uncle that are the real heroes, they're the ones that built this Country!! We just try to keep their memories alive!!☺
@hardcore4ever887 жыл бұрын
very good tuturial! I've never Seen it before. I've read it in an oldtimer magazine. now I know how it works
@kookiemoose13 жыл бұрын
I cant tell you how much I just learned by watching this tut. Thanks guys
@WillsGarage9113 жыл бұрын
Great job Roadking and Mike! There were plenty of hit and miss engines at the Swamp Yankee Days festival in Ashaway RI this past weekend!
@coniow8 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing an old farm Hit and Miss diesel engine with a whacking great fly wheel. One massive combustion stroke was enough to power about 6 revolutions on the wheel, before another power stroke was needed! If I remember correctly it was at the Kew Pumping Museum in London (England, UK), but this was about 40 years ago, so I might be mistaken. Thank you for posting!
@willemkruit56756 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I call a tutorial! Thanks!!
@CraigArndt13 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this thorough explanation, these motors are really cool.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot Bud!! I appreciate you checkin' it out!!☺
@SpenCrowson10 жыл бұрын
I always wondered. A great explanation, many thanks.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin' it out Charlie!!☺
@RamblinAround13 жыл бұрын
Great vid...very interesting! This one went straight to my favorites.
@redneckbryon13 жыл бұрын
Very interesting how they work, I think it is amazing they new back in the day how to get them to work! So many moving parts!
@ihus99505 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Thanks love them Hit & Miss 👍
@randymarsh50888 жыл бұрын
Great video ! Thanks for posting this .
@805ROADKING8 жыл бұрын
+Chris Jenkins Thanks Bud!!☺
@12799MaDeuce11 жыл бұрын
Great vid, took me a second to "wrap my head around it" but makes a lot more sense now. Gonna have to get me one someday!
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
Thanks Beetle!! I'm glad it helped you out!! I run all my engines on buzz coils. Mags are a pain it the ass, I have 2 EK's sitting on the shelf!!☺
@jondoe66189 жыл бұрын
I love these old engines.My dad has one he gave me that i want to restore.It is about the same size as that last one that was running.It hasn't ran in probably 40+ years.
@805ROADKING9 жыл бұрын
That's cool!! good luck with it!!☺
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot Bud!! I appreciate you checking it out!! They do have carbs or mixers, most of them are mounted to the bottom of the head!! On the green engine it is mounted to the side of the head, you can see it starting at 0:32 there is a big thumbscrew right next to the pushrod spring for adjusting mixture, the choke and intake is on the bottom of it and the gas line is hooked up to the little soda bottle!!☺
@TheRobertralph10 жыл бұрын
Good video. I was wondering and found this. Thanks.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin' it out Bud!!☺
@ddd32406 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! This explains a lot!
@eddyg39724 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you!
@creamofcardstv13 жыл бұрын
Clever stuff! It's amazing how they work
@edzgarage13 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation Buddy! I actually thought I knew how these worked, but I was wrong.
@Gunny426HemiPlymouth11 жыл бұрын
Awesome dude... Finally! The mystery is solved! and it IS that simple! Love old technology!
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Buck!! I agree, it's interesting to see what different companies do to accomplish the same goal!!☺
@ManosS409 жыл бұрын
Nice! Now I understand the term "hit & miss"!!!
@805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын
@larrythelookout Thanks Mate!! Mike's a great guy to go to the shows with, He's more knowledgeable about the old engines than anyone I've ever met!!☺
@toddg22309 жыл бұрын
Can you share a pic or some info on your timing system on the push rod .I took a 12 volt coil and made it into a buzz coil and have it hooked up but it is grounded to the engine so now if you turn the engine and it makes it's ground ( yes you guessed it ) then I get the buzz effects.
@not2fast4u2c12 жыл бұрын
what is the big box opening on top of the engines for water cool??
@missionDan11 жыл бұрын
great video, i learnt something today, thanks
@d.cypher29207 жыл бұрын
Nice, i was looking for a video explaining what precisely, these engines were desiged for.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin' it out Whack!!☺
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
Yeah you could hook them up to just about anything!! Thanks for checkin' it out Fred!!☺
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Bud!! Nice "M" ya got there!!☺
@MrDanoconnor13 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video , Thanks For Posting.
@beetlesuzuki7212 жыл бұрын
Great video roadking i just bought an old fuller johnson 1 1/2 hp engine and its missing the ek mag i didnt have 300 bucks for a replacement and wanted to use an old ford buzz coil but couldnt figure how to rig up a timer switch. after seeing how you did yours ill have her running in no time.Great video thanks for posting.
@JSchrumm10 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Roadking, Crystal clear now. Had no idea vacuum opened the intake valve. I always over think stuff and this seems pretty simple.
@805ROADKING10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Bud!!☺
@JSchrumm10 жыл бұрын
Still Jim, Bud is my uncle.
@ZippoVarga11 жыл бұрын
Heya there my Friend! Awesome explanation! I recently picked up a Coffin Top Stover 1.5hp that will be a winter project here on the farm. Picked it up for chump change along with a dozen Maytag Engines and parts. I hope all is well with you Buddy!!
@Mopardude13 жыл бұрын
Good video. You show us all these interesting old engines about time you how they worked! LOL
@Steviegtr52 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Especially the governor. I am at present making a small version using scrap from the bin. Part 1 just published last night. The 1st part you show , the Fuller green one. I have not seen a governer like that version before. Maybe that is how i will make one. I think better than the outer flywheel version.
@edwardgarrett172 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see exactly how you have the timing wire connected when using a spark plug. I have a 3 hp fuller and Johnson I am starting to try get going. A close up picture of the hook up would be appreciated.
@SmallEngineMechanic13 жыл бұрын
@wolfsheadoil In the video these engine's fuel tanks are in the large base, under the cylinder, flywheels and mechanisms.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
That's cool!! Sounds like a good score!! I'm putting a Coffin top back together now!!☺
@krazy45cat13 жыл бұрын
Great Video , I 've never seen on in person . Need to look for a show in my area .
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin' it out!!☺
@dennisjohnson87532 жыл бұрын
Thanks - very good explanation
@hoooooops13 жыл бұрын
nice explanation, thanks!
@daddytech13 жыл бұрын
yeah the reason i asked about it is that the thing sounded like it was cycling through about 6 or8 rotations before the spark and ignition happened. that's why i asked if it was more like a perpetual motion thing because of the centrifigul weight of the wheels on it or something like that. i understand it a little better now about what makes them function. thanks
@dodgetech0210 жыл бұрын
thanks for the explanation . cylinder deactivaton is not new technology after all
@buckbundy86425 жыл бұрын
Do you power anything with them or are they just show pieces? I think it would be pretty cool to power a saw in a mill or the like. I bet they’re pretty efficient. Especially with the proper pulley or gear setup.
@yearlong51793 жыл бұрын
3:17 is that the gas bottle? the gas cleaner? and how does the fuel go into the cylinder? the intake bauble doesn’t look like it’s connected to anything or is the huge block not actually all cylinder
@805ROADKING10 жыл бұрын
That's cool !! Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it!!☺
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
thanks Bud!! we'll definitely watch your stuff!!☺
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks Buddy!! We did!! Hope You and your Family have a great New Year!!☺
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
thanks Mate!! I'm glad ya found it!!☺
@alleonhard261 Жыл бұрын
Is there an adjustment that can be made for higher rpm ?
@chilly98812 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, but i have one question. What initially pushes the push rod out so that the latch finger can hold it? Thanks.
@HighlanderNorth19 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. You started the whole tutorial at just the right components, the pushed and valves, which made the rest of it fall right into place very clearly. I am amazed that I've never seen one of these engines before. I guess people got rid of them or stashed them away somewhere. I wonder how well a smallish one would work running a generator for home use when power goes out. Also wonder how these engines compare with standard modern 4 strokes of about the same overall torque/HP when it comes to fuel efficiency?
@805ROADKING9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bud!! They work great for generators, many of them were built just for that. They are very fuel efficient. The main difference is the size, a 4 HP hit and miss weighs about 800 lbs and a modern 4 HP weighs about 30 lbs!!☺
@guygaric9408 жыл бұрын
+805ROADKING nah, a modern 4 horse Briggs weighs about 15-25 pounds, since a lot of it is made of aluminum and (gulp) plastic. That's one thing I like about hear hit n misses, mostly iron :)
@805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын
@nx2overide That's a good question Buddy!! I've seen many of them hooked up for generators! Basically the pulley on the side of the flywheel can be hooked up to just about anything with a large leather belt like a water pump, air compressor, cement mixer, corn shucker, grain maker, cream seperator, rock crusher, sawmill, log splitter. I have a few videos of them running things!!☺
@jamesmskipper11 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing the cam that pushes the push rod. Also, is that box on top of the cylinder a part of the piston oiling system? I've only seen a few of these "in real life" and didn't get a good view of them.
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checkin it out!!☺
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Thanks, they are alotta fun to play with!!☺
@ysrman4 жыл бұрын
Great video! what kind of oil goes in the glass oiler on top of the engine? I acquired a witte 2hp
@805ROADKING4 жыл бұрын
straight non-detergent 30W
@IonLaserMinistry11 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations on what brand to look for? or kind?
@servicarrider9 жыл бұрын
Steam engines typically had two balls, one on either side of the governor. Hence, the expression "balls out". Absolutely worthless trivia.
@richardvaughn27056 жыл бұрын
servicarrider or "balls to the wall".
@acrobaticcripple81766 жыл бұрын
I've got two balls!! Does that make me a steam engine??? (Giggle please)
@Horologist-zu5vq4 жыл бұрын
@@richardvaughn2705 i thought balls to the wall had to do with the old airplane throttles
@azbertx11 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it was very informative but where the air and fuel mixes? is there a carb somewhere?
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
@chilly988 There is a cam with a lobe on it very similar to a regular engine that runs off the crank that pushes it out!! Good question Bud!!☺
@guygaric9408 жыл бұрын
Basically what I thought, just wanted to make sure cuz I'm working on this tiny hit and miss you can hold in your hand, wanted to know what I was doing!
@howabouthetruth215710 жыл бұрын
VERY cool. I know some folks are still using these, but I wonder if certain models can be used today in an economical way.
@ShawnCFarm13 жыл бұрын
Nice and simple, I like it, and to think this was made almost 100 years ago. It seems like a big jump from what they had before. 5/5
@jimsager8217 жыл бұрын
Cool, now I know how they work.So it looks like when it gets going the flywheels take over and it only fires once every 3 revs. What kind of fuel,is it like a Wolverine?Nice vid,Thanks
@805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын
@ShawnCFarm Yeah they're pretty cool little machines, alotta fun to play with!!☺
@805ROADKING12 жыл бұрын
That's cool!! Yeah alotta people don't know what they are, if ya didn't grow up on a farm or your not over 50 years old chances are the only place you'll ever see one is at a show!!☺
@IonLaserMinistry11 жыл бұрын
This was very neat to see! I'm trying to find one"
@davida1hiwaaynet10 жыл бұрын
That's a good explanation of how the Hit and Miss governor system works. I like how you showed several types of engines. Question: What about overspeed protection? I come from the world of modern industrial engines. We have to be concerned about the engine running too fast if the primary control mechanism breaks. What is the limitation on the Hit and Miss engines, if you lost the function of the latch so that it would fire on every cycle? I assume there is a safety mechanism because I have never heard of one of these overspeeding to destruction. Thanks for the info!
@805ROADKING10 жыл бұрын
They can run away!! the latch out is the only fail safe!! If that fails you're SOL!!☺
@davida1hiwaaynet10 жыл бұрын
805ROADKING Aye Caramba! Don't want to have any rare vintage iron damaged by runaway overspeeding! Some day I want to restore a very old vintage engine, but not sure if I would look for a spark ignited or a simidiesel.
@rkshireygames10 жыл бұрын
Some of the larger ones have a pin in the governor that flies out when it over speeds. When it goes out the governor drops and it shuts down.
@jboyer102811 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very informative. The engine I have is TG.
@805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын
@AngryFlagman That's a good idea, it would have to be an old lady trike! they weigh about 300 lbs. I've seen that garden tractor, pretty cool!!☺
@pimpinpenz13 жыл бұрын
GREAT VID! Very imformative information! Helped me out too cause i didnt know shit all about these to be honest ive never touched one in my life!
@38911bytefree10 жыл бұрын
Better explanation on YT for hit and miss
@davidviktora9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! So if I get it correctly, the RPM value depends on the weight of the governor / resistance of the governor spring so that means the engine comes with pre-set RPM, am I right?
@805ROADKING9 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's about it!!☺
@bowlweevil41615 жыл бұрын
the rpm is adjustable by varying the pressure on the governor spring with adjustment screw
@500passwords13 жыл бұрын
you should make more videos like this :) i guarantee you i need a few lessons on the subject . lol great job buddy .
@monkeysatch13 жыл бұрын
very interesting way to cool love the vid roadking
@Junkyard-Restorations11 жыл бұрын
awesome, how much fuel do they use?
@805ROADKING11 жыл бұрын
Quite a long time!! We run them at 3 day shows on about a half gallon a day!!☺
@Del-Canada11 жыл бұрын
Hey wow, how did I miss this one? I hope you had an amazing Christmas my friend! Boing! o.O
@fiskusmati7 жыл бұрын
OKAY now I understand. THANKS GUYS!!!
@805ROADKING13 жыл бұрын
@hoooooops Thank you Hoooooops!! Thanks for checkin' it out!!☺