sure glad they redesigned them ! the current 70's design is awesome.. would still like to see how those machines operate
@jamesshanks26145 жыл бұрын
What your seeing here is the original version of the 82-70 as shipped from the factory. It was replaced by the more common steel bins with the expanding distribution conveyer everyone uses on the follow on 82-70. The movable steel plate the pins rested on would tear up the pins something fierce so a set of pins would barely last one year.
@Yosh-doesnt-understand11 күн бұрын
I actually like the orientation pan on that distributor better than on the newer 70's. It seems to me that you would get fewer pin feed issues off the elevators.
@zForce47 жыл бұрын
I see 2 types of 82-70 nowadays The one that the distubiarer can expand the length and this one I haven't seen this a long time after a promo film of 82-70
@NateCraven3184 жыл бұрын
The 82-70A had a severe defect STRAIGHT from the get-go: the storage bins. See those perforated metal plates the pins fall onto? These wound up tearing the pins' surface apart, severely damaging the pins within 90 days of use. The machine was overly complicated in distributing the pins with solenoids. They were an electrical problem. Then, AMF came out with a newly designed distributor that was simpler in design and execution, but it also followed the same pin distribution pattern time after time, without reversing the pattern, like the 70A did. All these improvements came out in the the first major upgrade - the 82-70B design - which eliminated the pin damage. The 70B also had and an electrical instead of the 70B's electromechanical distribution system. This electrical system eliminated a CLUSTERFUCK of problems that cropped up with the 70A. The distribution system that was introduced on the 82-70B was so good that it's still being used today, 50 plus years later on the newest 82-90XLi EDGE that QubicaAMF builds today. The only turnoff with this distribution system is it sometimes deposits a pin in the wrong position, piling up the pins, until it stops working due to not enough pins in the correct position. A third-party company designed a system for the 82 series machines with a sort of button trigger, that when the number 9 pin drops into its bin, the top part of the pin presses the button, and when it's pressed, it stops the pin elevator wheel from rotating, eliminating the mess of pins when they go apeshit on top of the holding bin, without shutting down the motor that runs the distributor and pinwheel as the carpet continues to run. All the system does is loosen the drive belt for the pin elevator wheel to stop it, and in testing, it's exceeded 500,000 frames per stop. The bowler never noticed the pinwheel stopping while bowling.
@FloridaBowlingAlleys4 жыл бұрын
Question for you! Do they still have anymore 82-70A units still left in existence? Because I really want to see an HD video with sound of one.. they're so rare!
@NateCraven3184 жыл бұрын
@@FloridaBowlingAlleys I don't think there are any HD videos of them, so sadly not...
@FloridaBowlingAlleys4 жыл бұрын
@@NateCraven318 Darn... that's sad.. I even wonder if this alley is still open and they haven't upgraded the machines.
@drewlubka96893 жыл бұрын
@@FloridaBowlingAlleys If you happen to see this reply, reach out to me. You should be able to find me on facebook or reply to this comment. I live near this center and have taken some videos of them if you'd like to see them.
@FloridaBowlingAlleys3 жыл бұрын
@@drewlubka9689 I would ABSOLUTELY love to! I sent you a friend request on FB, my name is Nicholas Cortes.
@rfs1701e9 жыл бұрын
I like the concept of the Brunswick red crown pins in an AMF pinsetter.
@Arabhacks10 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing is that this is pre-computer. The entire thing was designed by people.
@Happytylermovieproducction7 жыл бұрын
Arabhacks it used relay
@Scooter118514 жыл бұрын
@ratt1134 the 70's are just as much of a tank. it's the 90's (and Brunswick GS-series) that have the plastic stuff.
@jamiewhite151511 жыл бұрын
Really cool. Lots of years in development there.
@Bruins4Evah12 жыл бұрын
@ecabase most lanes use a synthetic plastic/fiberglass for the lanes. There's a wide variety of options. Also, you really don't want to drop the ball during your shot, but to roll it off your hands.
@luvsthose8230s15 жыл бұрын
very impressive and high tech from the amf 82-30 distributor.
@Coderjo.15 жыл бұрын
This distributor and bin design looks a lot more complex than the regular 82-70 and 82-90 design. And with most things, keeping it as simple as possible is the best.
@Gaddy102114 жыл бұрын
that is quite a different design... even the cups look funky.. never saw parts or diagram for this style
@Scooter118513 жыл бұрын
@htc6600 newer than the 8230s, but still old. The 70s where produced starting in 1962, with the distributor/bin/shuttle redesign coming at the end of 1964. The 70s where produced until the mid to late 80s i believe when the 82-90 came out.
@strikdevroblox90793 жыл бұрын
Yo!!! That’s 60’s AMF 82-70 machines!!!!
@theamflitebowler7 жыл бұрын
This is the older version of 82-70!!!!!!!
@MrBrymmx6 жыл бұрын
AMF M:82-10 Yes it is, the Distributor doesn't stretch until a 82-70B is released. But the 82-70B does have same moves as a 82-70A except that The Distributor stretches.
@MrBrymmx6 жыл бұрын
It is also the original AMF 82-70.
@jamesshanks26146 жыл бұрын
Steven Hill Yes the distributor was one of the changes with the 82-70B. Did you notice the 82-70B got a totally different storage bin? And essentially has been using the same design ever since? The reason for the change was the original bin design tore up the pins something fierce. Might have had something to do with the metal plates the pins dropped on.
@MrBrymmx5 жыл бұрын
James Shanks yup
@Nickk38815 жыл бұрын
my bowling alley has 16 machines exactly like these the amf's their about 47 years old and they cost about 3000 each back in that time. Now they are probably alot more haha
@1capdave13 жыл бұрын
Just noticed, no pin elevator belt idlers. Wonder if wheel stoppage wasn't a problem. It was on 30's belt tensioners would have been great.
@vittoriostoraro16 жыл бұрын
I have never seen an AMF Pinspotter with a Distributor like that ! I worked on several incarnations of the 82/70 when I was younger. When were these built and for how long ?
@FloridaBowlingAlleys4 жыл бұрын
This is located at Cedar Lanes, St Ansgar, IA I'd love if someone could go and film these in HD.
@tonywestvirginia11 жыл бұрын
amazing!
@Coderjo.15 жыл бұрын
Man... that's a weird distributor, bin, and shuttle setup. Of course, I'm used to the normal 8270 setup, having worked on them for about 5 years.
@ke3wh16 жыл бұрын
Holy crap what is that??!?! Never seen a distributor like that.
@Scooter118514 жыл бұрын
anyone still have a parts book or manual for these? I found a picture of some pages, but its small and just as the numbers and not the matching description. I'm interested in seeing how exactly the dizzy and bin assy worked.
@TheMatthew061413 жыл бұрын
i love bowling and ive always wanted to see back there
@therandomytchannel43186 жыл бұрын
Put twisters in there! Lol 😊
@Scooter118514 жыл бұрын
@kerryatgieserco 52 lanes, split center, full house :D that's fun.
@rfs1701e2 жыл бұрын
What bowling center was this filmed at?
@ke3wh16 жыл бұрын
Is that black flap a counter of some sort?
@rfs1701e4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the difference would be between this model and the 82-70B? I saw the latter one on another KZfaq clip
@FloridaBowlingAlleys4 жыл бұрын
Technically these between Model-B's is the pin distribution and the way it sets pins down, plus older parts used on the table assembly, I hope somebody soon can film these again in HD.
@jeffharrelson31632 жыл бұрын
I still service a pair
@htc660013 жыл бұрын
So in the history of AMF, is this a newer machine or an older one?
@theamflitebowler5 жыл бұрын
This was the older ones
@luvsthose8230s15 жыл бұрын
Is this a kicker return?
@colincharmley75696 жыл бұрын
0:19
@firealarmtechguy44447 жыл бұрын
why are there Brunswick max pins in a AMF pinsetter!!!
@Dana_Danarosana7 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@toscodav6 жыл бұрын
all pins specs are the same. No reason an AMF pinsetter needs to use AMF pins. Perhaps the proprietor got a deal on Brunswick pins from another alley that closed?? This isn't rocket science me lad.
@Chrisgrove81311 жыл бұрын
Is this pinsetter old or new?
@MrBrymmx6 жыл бұрын
Chris Grove Old.
@10Kingboy1015 жыл бұрын
WOW Thats loud and that i cant hear that o_0
@TexasSteven15 жыл бұрын
Yuck! too mechanical. I'm glad we installed the 91XL's in our house, last June
@janstinpeters12 жыл бұрын
ythis is settig
@heavyq15 жыл бұрын
You think that's funny? AMF owns more Brunswick A-2s then Brunswick itself does. Seriously, go look it up :)
@Yosh-doesnt-understand11 күн бұрын
That's AMF centers, not AMF parts distributor. The company split years ago. AMF centers are now Bowlero. There are way more A2's out there than 82-70 because they are cheaper to install. But Brunswick gets you on the back end since their parts are outrageously priced compared to AMF machines.
@heavyq11 күн бұрын
@@Yosh-doesnt-understand yeah now. Bowlero bought AMF 11 years ago. I made that comment 15 years ago which was 4 years prior to AMF being bought out.
@Cthunderspirit15 жыл бұрын
weird sound
@expfighter51126 жыл бұрын
AMF machine with Brunswick pins? isn't that like an OXYMORON?
@FloridaBowlingAlleys5 жыл бұрын
What? It goes totally along.. I was planning to have my alley based when I’m older with everything Brunswick and AMF only being the machines.