8th Gen Civic Si - K24a swap

8th Gen Civic Si - K24a swap - Part 1

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video, we swapped out the old K20z3 motor for the Japanese K24a (tsx k24a2). This is a 2005 K24 so i bought and installed a 06-08 TSX intake cam, RBC VTC gear, RBC intake manifold 08 TSX throttle body and K20a2 oil pump (RSX).
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@jactive1111 2 жыл бұрын

Much props on the feedback answered way more questions lol than even needed thank you

@RonBurgundyForPresident 11 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks for breaking it down, definitely answered a few of my questions

@efbuddies7839 3 жыл бұрын

Nice work! didn’t know you were recording this job.

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Yeah recorded some of the work. Putting together part 2 now

@kirbykunz6066 Жыл бұрын

doing the master cylinder in my fa5 was a nightmare, but im glad i bought a kit with a braded hose and new slave as well

@koloy999 Жыл бұрын

the first time I did one on the 8th gen it kicked my ass, the second time I pulled the line out with the master as one piece and then separated them outside the car and it was a hell of a lot easier I know this comment is pretty old but maybe itll help someone thats how honda says to do it in the manual.

@uwkcal 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video bro

@julianperez1270 2 жыл бұрын

I just finished my JDM k24A 3lobe cams swap on my 8th Gen coupe.took me about 13 straight hours from 7am till 8:30pm and had to go to honda dealership twice to get some Knock Sensors and oil pressure switch from K20z3

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job man. How come you didn’t just transfer the sensors from the z3 that you took out of the car?

@doriantorres548 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet ! Was up with the mini tho

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

The mini is fine. Just hanging out in the corner.

@thatguyben3128 3 жыл бұрын

Great job man, almost identical swap to mine (08 K24A3).

@tyreikwhittingham4896 Жыл бұрын

Isn’t the a3 the crv engine?

@acevedohiram 6 ай бұрын

@tyreikwhittingham4896 It's in the accord euro(tsx) we didn't get that one here

@thatguyben3128 6 ай бұрын

@@acevedohiramcorrect 👍🏼 .. direct cuz to the K24a2 (K24a3 🇦🇺) *+* _supercharged now_ 😁

@acevedohiram 6 ай бұрын

@@thatguyben3128 sounds like a lot of fun!

@thatguyben3128 6 ай бұрын

@@acevedohiram extremely 😁

@estebanmelendez5661 8 ай бұрын

Hey bro what did you do for the front motor mount? I’m having the same issue and wanted to try out the washer set up you did on the mount

@sovan781 2 жыл бұрын

ktuned makes a header for k24 swap 8gen civic , i had to get it . when using the q300 exhaust the mid pipe hits the chassis

@S7SGamerHD 10 ай бұрын

I'm thinking of doing a k24/K20 swap or a full k24 . Don't know where I can get more power

@R.r.s_10 6 ай бұрын

am i able to upgrade from a r18 to a k24a in a non si 8th gen civic?

@thatzlyght755 Ай бұрын

Where u able to use your stock mounts? And if so was there any vibrations?

@TheJiminsn4 2 ай бұрын

Is there anything better for that rear mount issue you had? I have the same issue

@shawnmarques7117 10 ай бұрын

The plm headers like 300 made for a k24 block i know your going budget but they do have the proper header for this build i done one.

@itachisolosmadara 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think its worth paying $300 for the intake cam? Also, does the basemap run fine with the 50 degree rbc, k20a2 oil pump, and intake cam? I am about to do the same thing and would like your input sir.

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

It’s completely up to you but personally, I would not pay 300 just for the intake cam. I think that is a bit expensive. As for the base map, it did not run that great on my motor. I kept seeing knock. It was good enough to get the car running and drive it around but I would not continuously beat on the car with a base map. I think a good price for the cam would be ~150-200$

@danielvidales8630 9 ай бұрын

Hi! How many liters of oil did you use?

@rjbryand4495 2 жыл бұрын

Did you use stock ecu harness from the 8th gen or you used different harness?you first mention that in the video

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Using complete stock 8th gen Si harness. No modification needed

@hassansafeer7411 2 жыл бұрын

Hello sir I want to ask u, what's the best rev limiter for k24 on stock oil pump, is it 7600 or 7400 rpm. Because si k20z3 has I think 8300 rpm, so after doing k24 swap what's your rev limit now on k24?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t go passed 7500. It also depends on what rpm the motor stops making power. If you stop making power at 7200, there is no point to rev higher than that. Need to get it dyno tuned to figure that out.

@hassansafeer7411 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 OK sir thx. A lot.

@brandond3404 Жыл бұрын

Liked and Subscribed! Hey man good video and sweet setup. I'm in the process of doing a K24A2 with a K20Z3 transmission in an EK hatch, but I'm having some trouble figuring out how to make them work together. I've seen some people say you have to use a different gear selector/gear box and modify the transmission to make it work. This doesn't seem to be a very popular setup so there's not a ton of info on it. My engine and trans are still out of the car at this point as I piece together my build... BTW I bought the trans completely refurbished with new synchros and I'm really not trying to open it up or mess with it because I have zero experience with the internal workings of any transmission. I greatly appreciate any info you could give to a n00b. Thanks!!

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

I think the trans will bolt right up to you motor without any issues. My best guess is you will have issues on the transmission side mount as well with the speedo sensor. I never did this swap in an EK but I would ask Brian from hasport about the mount situation and about how you’re going to resolve the speedometer problem. Bc I think the sensors are way different than, let’s say the rsx transmission. This just an assumption though.

@brandond3404 Жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 Thanks for your super quick response! I will definitely contact Hasport.

@shanegauthier8302 5 ай бұрын

i’m in the same situation as you wanting to swap my k20z with a k24a in my manual 8th gen civic and want to know how the trans meets up with the engine. i’m a noob right now as well and wondering if you ever figured it out?

@timfretts9266 3 ай бұрын

@shanegauthier8302 the z3 trans bolts right up to the K24. Can use your OEM mounts, but I'd upgrade to Hasport.

@shanegauthier8302 3 ай бұрын

@@timfretts9266 thanks man i appreciate it! also wondering where to source a good k24 engine? idk what websites i can trust. idk how i feel about ebay if you’ve ever had to buy car parts from there?

@boomer_bri 3 жыл бұрын

Nice swap! will you transfer over your k20 head eventually?

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Nah. I don't think it's worth it. But I do wonder if it would make any more power over the rbb2 head.

@rmpatacsil03 3 жыл бұрын

Im in the middle of doing a k24 swap and wondering where did you mount the load leveler on the motor? Thanks for the vid!

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

One side i put on the transmission mount and the other on the passenger side mount bracket.

@rmpatacsil03 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 thank you! I can't wait to get mine going! Your video inspired me to get off my lazy ass.. my fg2 has been sitting for 9 months 🤦🏻‍♂️

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it man. Good luck with the swap

@ehiojieyan8505 2 жыл бұрын

Can you transfer over the K20Z3 oil pump or is it not really necessary? Also can you use the oem Z3 header?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

You can but it doesn’t make sense to do that as they’re the same pumps. I installed a k20a2 pump in mine. And yes, you can use stock z3 headers.

@LuisHernandez-bz6vf Жыл бұрын

Did you use k20z3 headers do they fit on a k20. Am doing a swap with a k24a rbb2 and i don’t know what type of header to use. Any help would be great. Nice swap.👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Your best bet is to go with either the ktuned k24 header or the plm k24 header. In the video I used skunk 2 alpha but that doesn’t fit right without spacing the rear mount.

@tazimali1650 3 жыл бұрын

I am swapping my 2010 Acura csx K2.0Z2 for K2.4A2 Acura TSX would the engine wire harness from the honda civic fit & would it work with the K 2.4A2 motor

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Good question. I would say yes. But you may have to move some sensors around. Not sure which ones. Might need to research that a bit. I would assume the oil pressure, crank sensor and knock would need to be switched but idk much about those cars.

@jeremypeterson8002 2 жыл бұрын

Question what kind of Jack is that under the engine?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

What is the time stamp on the video so I can check.

@Wattis161 2 жыл бұрын

Can you give us a parts list on what we need for the swap other than the K24a engine. Thanks

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

To bolt up the engine you really just need a 03 crv engine bracket. You can use the stock SI mounts. Other than that. You need flash pro or ktuner. Transfer the crank position sensor, knock sensor and oil pressure sensor.

@Wattis161 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

No prob. Check out the video if you have some time. I go over how to space out the rear mount to fit a skunk 2 header. Otherwise the header will hit the tunnel.

@yojamflores6238 Жыл бұрын

I know you have answered many off these questions , but im about to do the swap this weekend and want to prepare my self 1. Did you use the water pump housing from the z3? 2. What engine mounts need modifying or do they bolt right up to the k24 3. What oil pump did you use on the k24

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Yes. I used the water pump and oil cooler from the z3. You need the crv engine side bracket, the mount itself stays stock. If you have the skunk 2 alpha header, you will need to space it out or it’ll hit the firewall. I have a k20a2 oil pump in mine. In the video I show how I spaced the mount. If that helps

@yojamflores6238 Жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 thanks bro any modification to oil pump? Or just straight bolt on

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Yes. You have to cut it. Then you have to plug the oil passageway with a bolt. There’s videos about this. If you don’t plug it right you won’t have oil pressure and that’s not good

@alfredoventura4727 8 ай бұрын

How's the vibrations with the oil pump? and do you know the oil pump pick up on the k20a2 is short for the z3 oil pan.

@unruly_macaroni2780 3 жыл бұрын

Do you get a check engine light the way u have your o2s setup

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Not at all. No codes, no lights. Btw, what do you mean the way I have the setup? Like, not having a catalytic converter?

@alfredoventura4727 9 ай бұрын

How much do you charge for this swap ?

@yyznawar6568 Жыл бұрын

did the k20 transmission fit on the k24 or will a new transmission be needed or fitment ?

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

It’s a direct bolt on

@oscarjsm24 3 жыл бұрын

How did you bolt the rear motor mount to the type s pan? I have a k24a (JDM) which I did the type s pump upgrade to. But it doesn’t have where to bolt the motor mount to :(

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

You have to use the SI k20z3 oil pan if you’re installing the motor in an 8th gen si. There is no other way to mount the rear without it. You can see in the video I’m using the si pan. I bought an extra one off eBay. I also showed what needs to be done if you’re using a skunk 2 header to space out the rear mount bracket that attaches to the pan.

@oscarjsm24 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 yes I have an 08 fg2 and running a skunk 2 header as well. Thank you for the reply. So the z3 pan is a direct fit to the type s pump? And can you please attach the time stamp where you explain the clearance for the header! Subscribed by the way! 🙌🏽

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

It is around the 15:30 mark I believe.

@rastafire1219 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 you can use a type s oil pan on the k24a2.

@andrespeaks3456 Жыл бұрын

Did you use the k20z3 intermediate shaft an axles everything swaps over ????

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Yes. Direct swap. You’re still using the same transmission. No changes there.

@lssi9073 2 жыл бұрын

did you put all 4 longer bolts on the rear mount brackett with the washers or just the one you pointed out from the vtc cammed bolt?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

All 4 so that it’s even.

@lssi9073 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 this is part number i found online 90032-PNA-000 says the bolt is 12x47 ???

@lssi9073 2 жыл бұрын

By the way very good, detailed video and I just subbed.

@loganevans9028 3 жыл бұрын

Thinking about copying this to my 07 civic coupe. Do you think it would fit?

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Yea. It’s the same car

@alfredoventura4727 2 жыл бұрын

How much to do this swap

@rodroguez909 2 жыл бұрын

What base map did you use i did the same swap but mi e doesn't run

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Are you using flash pro? If you are. There are “race maps” in there. If you hit advanced when looking for maps. You check off race maps and it’ll show you more maps. You can use the one they call stock tsx map. Or even the stock k20/k24 map. Just keep an eye on afr so you don’t run lean. You can then edit the fueling as needed until you get a tune.

@Honditosi 3 жыл бұрын

So is it pretty much just a plug and play? Or what else do you need

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Basically yes. Need to transfer some sensors like I mentioned and get a CRV engine side bracket but that's about it. And of course you will need ktuner or flashpro to load a K24 map. Otherwise it won't run right.

@tb3ll597 2 жыл бұрын

Aye fam does it matter if I’m running the k24 cam sensor? Or do I have to swap in the k20 one

@Paul-jw2md 2 жыл бұрын

I think cam sensors are the same. The crank sensor I’m not sure about. So I used the k20 one

@tb3ll597 2 жыл бұрын

@@Paul-jw2md appreciate you man yeah I just did a 24 swap and the vtech kinda acts weird not much top end power but I’m still on a base map figure I just needa tune

@jomi1413 3 жыл бұрын

Just did the same swap and have header clearance issues hitting the firewall... did you have this same issue any advice

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

I spaced out the rear mount using washers and longer bolts. I have the washer size and bolt part numbers in the vid i believe

@jomi1413 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks a lot bro... header vibrating my whole car and it’s pissing me off

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It's super annoying but it is an easy fix. My car doesn't vibrate anymore, drives like stock

@jomi1413 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 just rewatch the video and saw what your talking about thanks a lot your a life saver 👍🏽

@ToxicPs5 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man whats up what motor mounts did u put on your si im about to do a k24a2 swap but dont know which crv mounts go or did u go with the 8th gen mount?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

All you need is the crv motor side bracket from a 2003 crv. The actual side mount can be left stock. The rear motor mount bracket needs to be spaced if you use a skunk 2 header. If you use a k24 swap header you don’t need to space out the rear bracket.

@ToxicPs5 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 hey man can u help me out what do i need to swap from my k20z3 to the k24a from 2003-2008 type s tsx? For my fa5

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

You need flash pro, crv motor bracket and that’s basically it. Need to transfer some sensors. I mentioned it in the videos I believe and showed which ones I swapped

@ToxicPs5 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 the engine has no mods in it its completely stock what map or calibrations do i need to do?

@ToxicPs5 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 thank you bro❤️

@LetsGoBauer 3 жыл бұрын

how long would you say this swap took you to do

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Took about 3 days. If I didn’t take my time cleaning, painting, replacing clutch master cylinder, figuring out the mount situation, it could be done in one day. If you have everything ready.

@user-kg9xu1fg8d 4 ай бұрын

Can I use my water pump housing off my K20 Z3 on my rbb 3 jdm tsx engine

@pmpworx7331 4 ай бұрын

Yes. But remember the alternator will have to follow.

@user-kg9xu1fg8d 4 ай бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 Bro thank u so much appreciate it I subbed:) and ok I will also use the k20z3 alternator

@PatilsNinad 3 жыл бұрын

I believe K24A does not have vtec on exhaust and the K24A2 has vtec on both exhaust and intake cams. Can I use my k20z3 head on the K24A2? Or is it only compatible with K24A?

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

It depends. K24a just means it’s a jdm engine. I have a k24a and my motor has vtec on exhaust and intake. It’s the same motor that a 04-05 tsx has. If you have a k24a that does not have vtec on exhaust, that motor would be the 160hp version, like an 04 accord, or crv. You can use your z3 head on that. Keep in mind, the rods are thinner, there are no oil jets to cool the pistons and the compression may be lower. I’m not 100% on that though.

@PatilsNinad 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 I’m talking about the k24 (high performance) from accord type-s jdm or odyssey absolute jdm.

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

The K20z3 head will bolt up to any k24 (excluding the earth dreams versions) just use the head gasket that is mean for the block, not the head and you’re set. The combo of k24a2 and k20z3 or k20a2 head is the most common k24/k20 frank combo. It’ll make good power. I stuck with the stock k24a2 head that was already on my motor as it had less miles and just used 08k24a2 cams.

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Bolts right up. Use the k24 head gasket with it. I also replied below.

@PatilsNinad 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 thank you

@LowStyleMac 3 жыл бұрын

Any sites I could source a k24a?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Google jdm engines. Some will pop up locally for you.

@jarrett5083 Жыл бұрын

What was the hardest part from mounting the trans back on the motor

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think mounting the trans is difficult, especially if you have the motor and trans out of the car. But people may possibly have issues lining up the input shaft I suppose

@jarrett5083 Жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 I have the motor and trans out, just find it difficult to get to the trans bolts on the bottom just split my trans from my block today and getting to those bolts was a prick

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Gotcha. What I would check is to make sure you lined the clutch up correctly, using the clutch alignment tool. If the clutch is off center it might be difficult to put the trans on bc the input shaft will not go in easily.

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Definitely don’t force it in. Realign the clutch. And then you sort of wiggle the trans onto the motor but it should not go in by force.

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

This also makes me think maybe the dowel pins got bent? There are dowels that meet in between the block and trans. People tend to bend them. Once they’re bent, it makes it difficult to mate the trans to the motor. Feel free to send pics of what you’re seeing. Maybe that’s you’re issue?

@leetuon8184 3 жыл бұрын

Crv post mount?

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Crv engine side bracket for an 03 crv

@janfeliciano5307 2 жыл бұрын

How much would this cost for someone to do?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Whatever the motor in your area costs. Plus flash pro and crv motor side bracket. All else is optional. I did a bunch of extra mods but those aren’t required for the swap

@jarrett5083 Жыл бұрын

Hey do you know what order you put the mounts on

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

I’m not sure I understand your question. You’re asking how I put the motor back in?

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Please clarify

@jarrett5083 Жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 yea so when you had the motor back in the car what mount did you bolt in first

@chillitown7091 Жыл бұрын

Hey i know this is an old video but i keep finding conflicting answers and was hoping you could help me out. Im swapping a k24a2 into my eighth gen and have read things on needing a different oil pump. Is this true? any help is much appriciated!

@Paul-jw2md Жыл бұрын

You don’t “need” a different oil pump. The stock one on the 24a2 will work fine. You will need to swap the oil pan due to where the rear motor mount is. People swap oil pumps for the k20a2 oil pump because they allow the engine to spin to higher rpm without causing oil cavitation

@chillitown7091 Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-jw2md thank you so much I’ve seen nothing but conflicting points on it😂 follow up question if you don’t mind, I’ll have to put the car on a tsx basemap after I swap it right? Or can I run it without a tune?

@Paul-jw2md Жыл бұрын

@@chillitown7091 you will not want to run it on the stock map made for the k20z3. Make sure to have flash pro and load a k24 map on it. Then get a tune. I would not beat on the car with a base map. The fuels are most likely off and you could be running lean which will damage the motor.

@chillitown7091 Жыл бұрын

@@Paul-jw2md good to know thank you so much man love the content too really Insightful video

@tb3ll597 2 жыл бұрын

Did you have to flaspro?

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. For sure. Flash pro is a requirement. Without it, car will not run right.

@tb3ll597 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 what tune did you run ? I have one but know nothing about tuning

@pmpworx7331 2 жыл бұрын

I got the car tuned at xenocron. There is a video posted with it on the dyno and the results. Just search it on the channel I named it something like k24 civic dyno or something like that.

@Abraham_RJ 3 жыл бұрын

how much do you spend on this swap?

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not 100% sure. I do know that I most likely spent more than some people would bc I did optional things like, installing type s oil pump, 08 tsx cams, RBC timing gear, modified crank gear with longer channel key, FIC injectors. Motor cost 1050 but I ended up selling the k20 and made most of that back.

@Abraham_RJ 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 Thxs, im asking because im think i broke mi k20z3(not sure lol) and im seeing its easier and cheaper to get a k24a than a k20z3

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

If you already have flash pro, find a k24 and put the k20 head on it. That’s if there is nothing wrong with your head.

@Abraham_RJ 3 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 i dont have the flash pro but i found the ktuner cheaper and you think its gonna work or i need to go for the flash pro?

@brianbloomfield961 2 жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 would I have to make all those changes to make the k24 runs better in the 8th gen swap?

@Itz_ZVNZCY 3 жыл бұрын

Those clutch master cylinders are trash they tend to pop the top gasket

@pmpworx7331 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah for sure. Not even 2 days later it blew again. I went with the hybrid racing one. No issues since

@guap47 Жыл бұрын

What deck is that!?!

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

Sorry I missed your question. What do you mean by “deck”?

@guap47 Жыл бұрын

@@pmpworx7331 the iPad lookin thing in the dash

@pmpworx7331 Жыл бұрын

It’s just an android head unit from eBay. They sell them specifically for the 8th gen civic. But you will need to mod the harness bc it’s not made to work with the stock amp.