Damn, glad they were put on that list. If you are racist and traveling has not changed your mind, go home, lol.

A racist comment is inexcusable, but is a bad opinion a reason someone should be banned from ever flying again? Disruptive behavior yes, but hurt feelings?

@@NXTMusicianBassist it was not a bad opinion, it was a racist remark. It was clear that the passenger didn't want to be helped by my friend. I believe the passenger was banned for five years, not for life.

@@Tweeteketje A racist remark is a bad opinion, no? Do you think it's a good opinion? Of course not. But that makes my point. The same way hotels should not discriminate between people of different religions or political parties, airlines should not be able to do so either.

@@NXTMusicianBassist of course it was not just stated 'I think Asians are ....', but the words were very condescending towards my friend. So yes, I think an airline cannot allow such behaviour, neither to another passenger nor to the staff.

Right! The seat is paid for. Let us tell somebody we won't be on the next leg so they don't wait for us, and maybe they can sell the seat, again, if they gave somebody on standby.

Its fraud. No different than going into Macys and swapping price tags.

​@@aa777flyerhow is it fraud to skip the 2nd leg of a flight that's already paid for?

@@aa777flyer Well, yes and no. You can also look at it like going to a restaurant and only eating part of your meal and not taking the rest home for later.

It's complete different from switching tags.

Fortunately, forbidding skiplagging has been considered an abusive practice in Brazil. If they dare to cancel you're return flight for skiplagging, they can expect to lose a lawsuit.

@@sohopedecoGood!

​@@sohopedecoCalling out businesses for scummy practices! Like, yeah, it's a problem for the business who should've done better organizing

Most of these things won't get you on the federal no-fly list unless they end in an arrest (except #1, where you could get listed just because the CIA fucked up). You will never get arrested for skiplagging in the US, or most other western countries, because it's a civil matter and not the police's problem. But there are real problems with skiplagging: * The airline's obligation is to get you to the final destination on your booking, not any of the intermediate stopover points. If the flight gets severely delayed or cancelled, they will put you on whatever flight they feel like, and it may not stop in the same place (or at all). * Airlines receive subsidies (in many countries) for flying to remote airports (the alternative is "there's no air service here because it's not profitable to operate"). If you don't actually fly that leg of the trip, they may not be eligible for the subsidy that was priced into your ticket (depends on local laws), and that may cost them real money. * Most of the time, skiplagging arises when you are flying into one of the airline's hubs. The economics of those flights are significantly more complicated, because they're usually involved in a large number of different routes (all of which have different levels of demand and different costs to fly). If a flight into the hub was always cheaper than any flight connecting through the hub, that would encourage consumers to buy more flights into the hub, and fewer flights out of the hub. That kind of imbalance means you have to reposition aircraft with no (or fewer) passengers, and that costs money. So airlines try to discourage that by charging a bit of a premium for one-way flights into their hubs. (This is also why one-way sometimes costs more than half of round-trip - the aircraft has to fly there and back regardless of whether you purchased a one-way or a round-trip.)

You agree to sign a contract and that's the rules... don't like the rules, don't sign the contract

​@@sandraankenbrandme when I defend Ursula:

@@ryanwalsh5019 don't get what yr saying

​@@sandraankenbrand yeah ursula was way worse

@@SaturdayParker whoever Ursula is...

Did you get no-fly listed?

@@HelloHamburger Nope!

​@@HelloHamburger I've heard airlines only ban passengers who consistently do this. If you miss a connecting flight once or twice they're generally not gonna flag you as it could be written off as an honest mistake.

That isn’t skip lagging though, also pretty sure the reason they make round trips cheaper is to make you a “loyal customer” While skip lagging is done in major city’s like Vegas

Were those $600 for the ticket itself or how much you saved, cuz either way, I see a MAJOR issue with paying that much for a flight THAT ISN’T EVEN LEAVING THE COUNTRY!

out of curiosity, what does the airline lose there? worst case scenario for the airline is seat is paid for, but wasn't used, which lessens the load, of both person, and luggage, making (albeit miniscule) a fuel efficiency difference. more likely though "hey, this seat is unfilled, and we overbooked, here's a seat for someone who would've gotten bumped" atleast in my head, I guess though they lose out on charging someone 1k vs say 400, but that's not the fault of the consumer not wanting to spend 1k to go somewhere the plane was already going.

Yes, please explain how an empty, but paid for seat hurts the airline

​@@MaskedReviews only hurts the airline cause the airline wants you to pay *more* for what you actually did, remember? 😂

@@annedavis3340 I know that, but the person who posted this comment apparently doesn't

The thing is this is only an effective way to push back until you get caught and then aren't allowed to fly at all.

Why does it cost so much to fix?

​@@jimwormmasternot a FA or technical person but flight delays cost money. They have to fix the slide & the plane, check & make sure everything works, all of which take time. Airlines pay a fee to park in airports. The more time they spend there, more fees for the airline (and they may be causing delays for other flights or airlines too). Maybe someone will have a better explanation.

@@kitty_s23456 Ah, I see. So the cost includes things like labor, additional parking fees, potential lost flights...that makes sense.

@@kitty_s23456 you got back to the other guy before I could, but that’s basically it!! It’s not just the cost of repairs, but all those other factors. And at the busiest airports, one delay usually causes a chain reaction that creates a hundred delays!

​@@jimwormmasterThe slide *has to* work when needed. So after a deployment, it has to be repacked by someone who knows exactly what they're doing, not just any ramp agent (and, in fact, given the size of the slides, probably several someones), then it has to be inspected by someone who knows exactly what they're looking at. So hours of high-paid labor, and meanwhile, the plane can't fly, a new plane has to be found, a whole planeful of passengers may need to be compensated for a delayed/canceled flight, the flight may or may not get off the ground before the crew hits their duty hour limit for the day, after which they can't legally fly (because people tend to get mad if the cause of a crash is "the crew fell asleep because they were up 20 hours"), so a new crew may have to be called in for the flight *and* the original crew still has to be payed for the prep work they did, etc.

How does that happen? Airlines are under the auspices of USDOT. I’m not trying to argue with you, just trying to figure out where FTC has authority to weigh in on this issue.

Yeah...it makes no sense, for example, for a flight from Dallas to Los Angeles to cost more than a flight from Dallas to Seattle, with a stopover in LA.

Remember that Travel Agents still exist and will arrange packages with discounted airfare. For example, if I'm taking a cruise, I might get a flight from LA to Chicago to Miami (where I can catch my cruise ship). The airfare is subsidized by the cruise lines. If I want to go from LA to Chicago, I can buy the whole thing but I have no intention of going to Miami so the cruise line has subsidized my trip to Chicago.

I understand why it would get you on the no fly list. It cuts into airline profits. I don't agree with it, but if they want to charge you more and you find a way around that, they will want to put a stop to people doing that so they can continue to charge more. It's evil, it's greedy, but it's also easy to see the reasoning even if you don't agree.

They should. The company should charge for the distance travelled. They don't. Sometimes it's cheaper to just pay for 2 flights and fly only 1 than for 1 flight.

​@@petermerchant4439 Irrelevant. The seat is paid.

Skiplagging is when you want to fly from New York to Dallas, and you buy a ticket from NY to Los Angeles with a stopover in Dallas because it's cheaper than a ticket from NY to Dallas. And then you just don't get on the plane for the Dallas - Los Angeles portion of the trip.

@umani9983 yes. It is just the airlines being greedy and anyone defending it is either part of the greedy airline, or stupid because they want to be taken advantage of.

They lose money

The problem is you can get in trouble

​@@Walkingtomato1267 Possibly. But they also have a chance to sell a ticket again if the person doesn't check in for one leg of the trip.

@@reginabillotti ok

​@@M_SC Not really. They can get sued and should.

Dang. I am just imagining a parent asleep while it happens, RIP. But yeah, no, at least aim the feet elsewhere. Edit: As in the parent should aim the kiddo’s feet elsewhere.

The smoking section should be on top of the wings.

@@mitchells2003 and back when it was the back of the plane, they should have closed off everything behind that row so all the smokers could suck in their own second hand smoke. Win-Win!

I was literally sick for a week after a smoker sat right in front of me and smoked the whole 6.5 hour flight

@@nplus1watches35that’s not how smoke works, or air circulation. And the smoking section was usually in front.

I will never smoke. People should not be doing it. I will stay healthy.

Of course you can ! But it's gonna be a One Way tour :)

Why did all the aircraft I have been on NOT have 'Emergency Exit", instead it said "JUMP DOOR"?

@@SkyPhynxYT "If you touch the door and it's not an emergency, I'll give you an emergency"

it's not a mistake. They know people want to get to their destination preferably in one go without stopovers and hence make the price higher. It doesn't make sense to us a customers because it's more inconvenient and feel it should cost less for that reason, but I do think that that's why they price it higher, you pay for that convenience of being able to travel in one go. I have seen US domestic flights with two or even three stopovers before their end destination. I would HATE being on such a flight. If I can sit during the stopover, maybe it's ok, but oftentimes they ask you to leave and I would hate to get off three times before my destination. To avoid that, people are more likely to pay extra to avoid the annoyance or stopovers.

@@Fluffy-Fluffy I don’t think you get the definition of skip lagging. It’s when it’s cheaper to book a multi stop flight with the intention of getting off the first stop than to book the flight directly to the first stop.

​@@Fluffy-FluffyIf a trip from A to B to C is cheaper than just traveling from A to B (in the exact same manner), then there is a problem. Adding additional plane rides shouldn't make the cost go down. And not using a ticket you bought shouldn't get you in trouble, unless maybe you're asking for a refund. This does seem like a problem caused solely by the airline.

​@@lilliematthews7922 Exactly. If you skip flight B, especially if you don't check in for flight B, it gives the airline an opportunity to sell the seat again. I can't see how it's that bad for the airline, unless you have checked luggage, in which case skipping flight B could be a problem.

Lol, not a pricing mistake. It's a person's willful decision to violate the airline's terms

Shut up

Wasn’t that always the case?

@@marley7659it was. It’s just that the victims were either silent or not believed.

Not everyone is like that. I am mature and I'm only 13.

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you mean they charge more for a direct flight than one with a stopover, not vice versa. And I have seen it be quite common for the tickets to vary in prices in this case.

But why do airlines car?. They aren't gonna hold the plane for a passenger. They save on fuel, it allows standby customers to use those (now) unoccupied seats. The customer isn't getting a refund.

Yes, exactly. I’m wondering about the website Skiplagged.com or Kiwi.com…both seem legit. I don’t think someone could get banned just because they bought a ticket from these websites that specialize in skip-lagging

@@kotor610 This is a guess, based on an announcement made on a flight I was on recently, but if they don't HAVE any standby passengers waiting for a seat it could cause an issue if they have to rebalance the plane. The flight attendants had to announce that no seat switching was allowed to open seats because the plane was balanced based on where passengers were assigned. So if you are checked in to be on the flight and don't board because you practiced skiplagging, you could cause a delay and that impacts more than just your flight if they can't make the time up in the air to reach the destination airport on time.

you could pretend to be late

I don't agree. That's the airline's prerogative as a business. I hope there's some allowance for those that just make bad layover plans and miss their connection, though

True, just like the prerogative to not install bolts in door plugs or add defective flight systems and not train pilots on them. All prerogative. If skip lagging is a safety and security concern the solution is remove the problem. Don't blame the passengers or pilots.

It's not just airlines in the US that operate this policy. I'm in the UK and a customer was arrested and fined for getting off a train two stops earlier than stated on his ticket. The reason is the train companies charge different rates depending on distance, with some shorter trips being more costly than longer ones. The purp was just unlucky he got caught.

@@tommyl5319 Paying more for the exact same flight is ridiculous and I don't know why you like being screwed over. It costs the company NOTHING to allow you to skiplag. It actually makes it better for customers because these companies like to overbook flights. These airlines will make their money regardless, they won't go broke especially since it's YOUR tax dollars that will go towards the government bail-outs they frequently do. Meanwhile, the CEOs are getting richer and richer. So, why do you hate when consumers get their money's worth but don't complain when airlines kick families off planes when they've overbooked the flight?

@@RikAindowYes, we all know UK is a totalitarian state to the max. This is literally worse than Soviet Union. Arresting people to protect corporate-government interests is literally Fascism as outlined by Mussolini. What if I change my mind and want to leave the train and go back?

Unfortunately, this will not get you banned.

@TheBusyJane Yup, if the person feels entitled and not comply after complaints from other passengers, is what I mean.

@giancarlof2356 don't put your seat back so far your head is in the passengers behind lap

If someone put their hair into my seat space, I would consider that a perfect opportunity to practice my macrame skills. 😁

@@ScottLuvsRenFaires Or barbering skills! I wonder if they would notice that it's cut out to perfectly fit around the IFE screen? 🤣

I am of the opinion that full reclining your seat should be allowed only at night when everyone can be assumed to be reclining. A few degrees so one can see the screen better, sure, but not anything over, say, 15 degrees unless it's night.

I had a toddler kicking my seat during a whole flight. Don't know why his parents let him. (Fortunately it was a short flight, only about an hour. If it was longer, I would have probably said something to a flight attendant.)

​@@nancyhasten-sn8lmI don't recline back even at night.

It's like she didn't even acknowledge you as a person back there. That's practically using you as a seat.

Lmao I wouldn't even let them pull that. I keep my knees against the seat to sleep.

That was a non-door. AKA a PLUG that was never supposed to be opened from inside.

Sounds like he should have brought some nicorette!

@miscbits6399 The jail sentence wasn't for the smoking. It was for setting the plane on fire with the discarded butt.

@@Poliss95 Which is why even though there’s no smoking allowed they still have a spot to put the butts. It’s so IF someone broke the rules they wouldn’t make it worse by starting a fire too.

It wasn’t even an available emergency door. That model of plane has a few different choices for the airlines to pick where the emergency exits go. The options the airline didn’t choose get plugged and walled in with a covering panel. Someone didn’t bolt in the plug correctly and it fell out mid flight, sucking the covering panel out with it.

Someone else indicated that in this particular instance she may be talking about a given airline's list, as opposed to the federal list.

@@tejaswoman Thanks for the info, that is less infuriating.

@@madcow3417 just for that airline. Kinda like if you throw a fit in a grocery store you can be banned from the location or entire chain, but it doesn’t necessarily mean you’re getting arrested unless you break a law. It’s not the TSA or Homeland Security lists. TSA is if you break air travel laws or are deliberately a nuisance in the airport. Homeland Security is if you are a dangerous or suspected dangerous person.

Yeah that’s BS, the other reasons make sense that one is just pure greed on the part of the airlines

You know how it is when the people who own the transportation companies use their monopoly on a certain form of transportation to get themselves more money. Think of the poor billionaires! /s

Skip lagging ruins your trip somehow? Probably the most frequent one

@@NoThankUBeQuiet I have never been on an amtrak train where any of this was a thing. I dont travel far enough for skiplagging is possible.

I’ve never seen or experienced any of this. It’s important to talk about because they have happened but they’re not common

​@@mangayakposowa4334 same--never had any of the confrontational ones happen on any flight I was on. These kind of almost guaranteed bans are just there because of a small number of people who screwed around and found out

I hope you’re ok!

I think that might be considered public indecency, since it's such a small space.

When you land, file a complaint with the airline.

It's when the airline company marks your name and ID with a side note to never sell you any tickets and to never allow you on their planes even if someone else buys you one. If you show up anyway, then during the boarding checkup when they verify your IDs and luggage, they will find out it's you and the security will not allow you to board the plane. Good luck getting to your destination then

@@sillyjellyfish2421or home

​@@sillyjellyfish2421you can take a boat

@@denco37no boat list

And what part of **NO* you don't understand...⁉️⁉️🤦🤦

It's not like they can go outside. They have smoking areas for a reason. Are you also going to complain if the person next to you forgot deodorant?

​@@vcombs4276firstly smelling bad isn't a health hazard up to an unreasonable point and secondly yes I'd complain

Are we talking about live herons or meat? 😉

Plus they can resell the second seat to a passenger on standby or who needs to book a flight last minute.

That’s not skip lagging. Skip lagging is when you skip the final leg of the flight, entirely

That would be what you're supposed to do. Unless you're saying that you bought two tickets. Say, Bos-Atlanta-Miami and Atlanta-Nashville-Columbus and you're going to go BOS-Altanta-Nashville. Then you've skiplagged twice and you'll get a double ban.

Hope you're okay with someone else replying, since it's unlikely the comment get seen by the content creator. She used to work with Emirates Airlines. She has some videos about it specifically.

What's even better, is when you go to training to become a flight attendant for the first time, you go over a bunch of airplane crashes and you are told what not to do.

Pay begins when they close that door and ends when they open it. That is true.

I'll judge you all I want