I see where your coming from but He thought the siren was from the fire truck, it was only when the cam car went to the side so that the van could see him in the mirror that he realised there was a second emergency vehicle

Yeah wait until they get into a town

Well it sure as hell beats the milkman just having a go in one for a laugh, of course it is who we all want to drive if we need them, all of the drivers are trained and awesome.

Hey did you get to bracknell, what's it like now? I have retired but I bet the roads are still as troublesome as they ever were....

@@EmergencydriveUK hey, yeah I went to bracknell, the driving was... interesting to say the least, however after a few months I decided the situations we face daily are not more me and my mental health deteriorated massively so I stepped away, happy retirement!

@@kelvinbeckley2118 you need to look after your mental health, it might have looked like the ideal job but sometimes you have to accept that the role is making you ill. It takes a strong character to do your role in the ambo and I am pleased that you identified your own needs. Take care whatever you are doing now.

Interesting thought. I'd always be very careful given Alan Armsden (Executor of the Estate of Rachael Cheesewright, Deceased) v Kent Police (2009).

I've seen ambulance drivers just running around with all lights flashing and having no mission :)

I am not familiar with the case mentioned but assume that a police car hit someone whilst on a call and did not have his siren on. You should note that I use the siren where ever I believe there is a need based on a risk assessment at that time such as but not limited too Slow moving traffic Traffic that may over take 30 mph roads when approaching junctions or hidden drive ways Anywhere where pedestrians are . I won't have my siren on if there is no one to hear it.

The thrust of the case was indeed the use of sirens during a blue light response. The road was curved and there was a side junction. A lady pulled out of the side road as she was unable to see the approaching police car and was killed in the collision. The court held that had the sirens been on she might not have done so. I'm just unhappy with the comment "turn them on and forget." There are good reasons why sirens are left on.

Disagree with the “turn them on and forget” however I do agree that many have them on when it’s not necessary, as a response driver myself I only use sirens where my dynamic risk assessment dictates that I do

You might notice that the second responder will try to always use a different tone on the siren, hoping that traffic might hear its different and realise a second vehicle is approaching....... doesn't always work though..

@@EmergencydriveUK Absolutely that is a big plus, though in my day when we only had two tones there were a lot of "squeeky bum" moments when the vehicle pulled in to let the first appliance past then pulled out in front of the second one!

@@stuartwhite8215 It still happens today, check out the red car in this video...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oN9irKd3rZicmqs.html

not surprised when the 2nd vehicle falls behind that much ...

@@EnjoyFirefighting Its not a race.......safety comes first, just because it was ok for the first vehicle to continue doesn't mean a second vehicle can just follow blindly through.........its all about risk assessment. As an officer I am more than happy to wait a few seconds to ensure no one is put at risk

A ship or locomotive horn would wake people up.

Three pumps & one officer is the standard (minimum) response to any incident on a motorway for crew safety & to effectively set up the highway (coning off) procedure.

@@BlueFiesta great reply, thank you!

pre-determined attendance probably

@@BlueFiesta at least they send sufficient apparatus, still I'd expect a unit which is specificly made to secure highway incident scenes ... either seperate apparatus or a trailer; Or at least some fold-up sign on top of the apparatus on scene, just to make it a bit more visible and safer to work on scene

Not really, it is the correct thing to do. The number of problems and accidents closing them off during that time of the day would cause is unreal. First responders had already been there and assessed the situation, cleared the lanes, and finally coned off the area they would be working in, thus making it safe for them to do so. Opening the lanes and keeping them clear and running after having done all of that was the perfect thing to do. Nothing crazy about it.

@@jessebella9322 I would definitely prefer if they close the left lane to create a bit more safe space. And that would also force the traffic to slow down. If someone is not paying attention, and driving slightly on the shoulder, he will drive straight in the back of the fire truck.

@@kempo_95 hmm perhaps that one maybe but im sure they know best, i guess it depends on the traffic and that due, if its rush hour it can be a problem even one lane

The following car is a fire officer not police car and therefore does not have the authority to stop traffic at red lights....

Yea , didnt slow nothing down though really, made no difference what so ever luckily

Yes that will be fine, carry on. Thanks for asking

@@EmergencydriveUK Thanks! :-) ^ JJ

@EnjoyFirefighting - International Emergency Response Videos I think we have very different rules here in the UK, as emergency responders we still have to give way at red lights. I did not have a good enough view to continue through the red light without slowing and checking it was safe to continue. Regards the three appliances at the incident, we have a pre determined attendance for this incident type, as it was on a motorway our safety procedures require a minimum number of personnel to implement safety procedure hence the number of appliances attending......

@@EmergencydriveUK sure you have very different regulation when it comes to emergency responses, it's always a bit odd in the UK (just my opinion). I have no issue with the number of apparatus at all. Just surprised to see no apparatus which is specificly upgraded or seperately designed to block off highway incident scenes and manage the traffic flow. If not a seperate truck or trailer, the minimum I'd expect are rear-facing message boards, fold-up traffic warning signs on top of the fire truck or sth similar. In my village of 10k inhabitants the local volunteer FD will send out multiple apparatus for an accident scene on the higwhay as well: usually the Chief Car, the Engine to be the only one actually working on scene, then the Tanker with traffic safety trailer and the Heavy Rescue Truck with the 2nd traffic safety trailer to block and cone off the scene. I also like the Swedish approach where close to every modern Engine, Tanker, Pod Carrier (prime mover) and even some Aerials have a fold-up traffic warning sign on top of their truck as they don't pull any traffic safety trailers like in Germany; Now also the first TMA equipped fire apparatus are in service there

@@EnjoyFirefighting Wow, that's some great kit you have on your trucks. We are lucky to have a small popup sign to put out AFTER we have closed the lanes. I think the UK fire service could learn loads from you guys in Europe in regards to road traffic incidents along with the education of drivers to create an emergency lane........keep safe

@@EmergencydriveUK you mean the small tripod-based signs? Better than nothing but in my opinion not suitable to secure an incident on a highway. A video I made a few years ago, driving down a highway and approaching an accident scene: first you see a van with fold-up arrow board on the roof standing on the shoulder, acting as pre-warner. Then way further down the road an Engine with attached traffic safety trailer blocks the right lane and directs traffic onto the left lane; THe arrow board of the trailer is set up and thus is taller than any type of fire apparatus around, making it very easy to spot from a greater distance even if you're approaching at high speeds. Pls just ignore the slow driving snow plow ahead of me in the left lane, it has no meaning to the on scene procedures and safety procedures there: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sJ9mjayis9u-oGw.html Also worth watching: another video with such a traffic safety trailer put in place; Additionally the Engine placed a traffic safety cart with a small arrow board on the right lane; Besides the hose cart hanging at the rear, a traffic safety cart with cones, warning lights and sometimes a small arrow board is common on modern Engines and Rescue Engines at most departments here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6eiiJxhxr-xf5c.html Swedish approach as mentioned before. Every large fire apparatus on scene had such a fold-up traffic accident warning sign on top, both the two Engines and the Pod Carrier / prime mover: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9iIjZeGzrDVd2Q.html

in fairness there were already two appliances there presumably from a closer station.

There is no point in me getting to the incident first, I don't have the required equipment to assist.

There was one appliance from Wokingham, Wokingham road (Reading) and Bracknell

04 plate Mercedes Atego.

@@ukemergencyvideos3335 saw that at the end of the video 🤦

The car was on the motorway, the most dangerous roads to work on. With three crews there you can safely close a lane and create a safe working area if needed. Thanks for watching

@@EmergencydriveUK Ah, I guess that makes sense. Interesting video

This was bracknell in Berkshire

No I was a fire officer... now retired

do you know what the caller reported on the phone, how he described the incident and scale of emergency?

It's not a waste of tax payers money, it's for safety purposes. A dead firefighter would cost you a lot more. The safety systems are risk assessed at national level and determined number of personnel are allocated to fulfil the risk assessment needs...

@Marc Carter you never know what the caller reported to dispatch; I remember a case where a car slipped off the on-ramp at a highway in my home town; No-one got injured, car was in the field, no traffic put in danger ... not sure what they reported, but they made the Career FD respond with Command Van, Chief Car, Engine, Tanker, Powder Tanker, Heavy Rescue Truck and 2 companies from the volunteer FD with a Crew Van and Engine each ... additionally 2 ambulances, highway patrol car etc; Turned out to be a minor incident then ... so what

@@EnjoyFirefighting exactly, waste of money and resources maybe the people on the 999 phone should ask more questions so they send an appropriate response.

@@marccarter4469 can't blame them; Emergency Drive UK also explained that it has to do with their own safety to send out a certain minimum number of apparatus. Apart from that sometimes the caller hangs up, or the information on the incident came in via a third party e.g. calling police and then they informed integrated Fire & EMS dispatch, or it was reported via eCall or automatic crash report systems from the vehicles involved without any information being transfered on how the scenario is like. Even if they have direct contact, a caller might have difficulties to actually describe the scale of the incident ... it's not uncommon that the scenario he describes sounds like the most serious horrific crash and once crews arrive on scene it's hardly more than a fender bender. 2 years ago I had an incident which pretty much repeated itself yesterday: accident with two school buses. Two years ago it was 2 school buses and electric car in between and it was reported that the school buses were full of people; Yesterday one school bus ended up in the ditch while the other one overturned, again expected to have lots of passengers. Luckily in both scenarios both buses together had only ONE passenger on board. The initial response however was according to an expected mass casualty incident.

@@marccarter4469 the response to the single car accident at the on-ramp: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zq6BnaannMfVcoU.html full house response with 18 apparatus to sth which then turned out to be a false alarm: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7qUaamorJOYpYU.html what the volunteer FD in my village sends out to accident scenes on the highway: only the Engine works right on scene, while both the Tanker and the Heavy Rescue will block lanes and direct traffic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5xhkraFp8qsqGg.html Lots of apparatus responding to a highway accident involving a truck and van, with only 1 man injured. However they expected it to be worse, to have more than one patient: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/icWdaMqBvJqzn3U.html Around here we have locations where every critical patient will get at least 2 Emergency Doctor Cars and 2 ALS Emergency Ambulances to respond. Or 2 First Responder Cars, Emergency Doctor Car and ALS Emergency Ambulance. Most EMS units I had on scene for a medical incident was a mom which gave birth: 2 First Responder Cars, ordinary ALS Emergency Ambulance, ordinary Emergency Doctor Car, Children Emergency Ambulance and finally also a Newborn Doctor Ambulance, so in total 6 units and with 3 doctors