@sterfdwaas 10 ай бұрын
" The Black Knights constantly faced foes larger than themselves, and this sword's unique attack greatly reduces enemy poise. "
@VValunt 10 ай бұрын
Oh shit. That actually makes a lot of sense lorewise for this video
@federicodassi6558 10 ай бұрын
the thrust accack in fact look like the giant hunt ash of war
@RealMonkeyDKirby 10 ай бұрын
Still not fait that only the crucible has a posture system
@jdogerz 10 ай бұрын
Thank u for this comment.
@RuneKatashima 10 ай бұрын
Black Knights do have poise, the "posture" system you mention. It's just incredibly high. Balances out against Crucibles higher damage output and hp. @@RealMonkeyDKirby
@mark5222 6 ай бұрын
Crucible Knight: I can fly. Black Knight: You will fly.
@BrianRepine 5 ай бұрын
The first is a boast, the second is a threat.
@Nephilim27 4 ай бұрын
2:49
@andrevilaca6469 4 ай бұрын
@@BrianRepine the second is not a threat, it's a damn promise fellow undead/tarnished
@Kryptnyt 4 ай бұрын
Gandalf nods
@Gutorov_composer 2 ай бұрын
Best comment😂
@lomo1407 3 ай бұрын
Crucible knights: flexible, have lots of different movesets, use incantations,... Black knights: *P O I S E D A M A G E*
@bloodangel19 Ай бұрын
Black knights: strong, fast, moveset perfect for fighting other enemies not just players.
@mooroo2853 29 күн бұрын
@@bloodangel19The attacks aren't any faster nor less telegraphed than the regular crucible knights
@bloodangel19 29 күн бұрын
@@mooroo2853 i said fast, not faster. If they attacked like they did in ds1 they'd be fucked.
@MayoForBrains 27 күн бұрын
Crucible knight: I have high poise! Black knight: Let me be the judge of that!
@Gilsao157 18 күн бұрын
Black knight: Ultra greatsword goes BRRRR
@Concerned_Custodian 7 ай бұрын
"Oh you have DRAGON powers? My old boss has a lot to say about dragons."
@TheMarlz2 6 ай бұрын
Crucible knights are connected to.. the crucible.. not dragons.
@RagnaRantz 6 ай бұрын
🤣 F-ing if not for Seath’s treacherous a$$ LOL
@RagnaRantz 6 ай бұрын
@@TheMarlz2ah yeah, that’s true …well still pretty funny But that’s true
@rzgaming5678 6 ай бұрын
@@TheMarlz2its theorized that the crucible and the dragons are connected, scales wings & tails and all that
@Concerned_Custodian 6 ай бұрын
@@TheMarlz2 Yknow, if you stopped to read the comment, you'd see the joke and probably decide not to make this pointless reply that helps literally no one.
@f8ze304 10 ай бұрын
Seeing the black knight casually lift up a Crucible is insane
@viniciuscopola2110 10 ай бұрын
Burger Flip for life! 😂😂
@MrJomalley123 10 ай бұрын
They were born to fight demons 2 times bigger than them so it makes sense
@SaxSlaveGael 10 ай бұрын
Yeah these fights were incredible! Never seen a Crucible Knight so brutally attacked! The pan cakes the flips! Awesome showcase!
@ValomyrsLight 10 ай бұрын
@@SaxSlaveGael oh hey, it's you! :0
@GawainW 10 ай бұрын
Cloud Strife has nothing on the physical strength of a Black Knight lol (People are going to hate me for that one... ;^^)
@daedricwinters2979 10 ай бұрын
Seeing a Crucible Knight getting slapped around is an odd feeling
@MrJomalley123 10 ай бұрын
I call it justice
@venomark7883 10 ай бұрын
You call it hilarious, I call that revenge
@ZaaltheDragon 10 ай бұрын
It's only cause the Crucible Knights don't have unbreakable poise like the Black Knights do.
@cardelharry6386 10 ай бұрын
Git gud 😢
@TankG-hz6pg 10 ай бұрын
@@ZaaltheDragon black knights are just built different, gamewise they are designed to hit that hard its just how black knights are, lorewise they were originally silver knights but became charred from the war with izalith and the demons during gwyns time (very long time from ds1-ds3 events), thus the black knights are just especially strong after duking it out with demons
@andero6476 7 ай бұрын
Veteran players of old souls series watching this would be like 𝗛𝗼𝗹𝘆 𝘀𝗵𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗲 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗳𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁?
@thatsameenergy 6 ай бұрын
Yes, we were lol
@user-do1wx2cn1v 6 ай бұрын
Black knights smack
@Ayixlia 5 ай бұрын
I used to farm the heck out of Black Knights and Silver Knights. I love fighting them I even went as far to run past a few of them just to fight 5 at once.
@fulgurtempestuouswrath 5 ай бұрын
@@Ayixlianow thats truly something!
@theaveragegamer7221 5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@Angry-Skeleton Ай бұрын
Crucible knight : "im the upgrade!" Black knight : "You are just a cheap knock off."
@100StepProgram Ай бұрын
Yet crucible knights look 1000x cooler and have cooler attacks
@Angry-Skeleton Ай бұрын
@@100StepProgram I'm sorry but since crucible knights are not drenched in all black that argument is invalid.
@muthafoca9409 28 күн бұрын
@@100StepProgramnah, lordran space program go *FOOSH*
@catknight890 25 күн бұрын
Black Knight: "Buddy, You think you look strong? ...You're wearing a cape."
@Mor_D_Kaiser 16 күн бұрын
Could you not break black knight poise?
@nicholaslemoire3780 9 ай бұрын
I love that even in the original scaling the black knight is just like. ''I see you deal twice my damage and have 3 times my health, but have you considered being poise broken 5 times in a row.'' Love the black knight
@nealang9520 8 ай бұрын
Honestly surprised the Crucible Knights got their poise broken that much
@jkomodo 8 ай бұрын
I swear they must've been patched last time I fought them.
@JohnQueSacc 8 ай бұрын
@@nealang9520they have crazy poise in game black Knights had to overcome actual poise granted by armor in DS1
@Dio_Brando290 8 ай бұрын
Flips crucible knight like a pancake
@zaleost 8 ай бұрын
@@nealang9520I do remember hearing somewhere that the way poise works is ER was altered so it applies slightly differently, where after a set amount of poise damage an enemy is automatically staggered. So could just be that the Great Sword Dark knight just keeps hitting that cap with almost every hit.
@RedCrusader-ph2vk 9 ай бұрын
You can tell the Black Knight saw the horns and tails on the Crucible Knights, had flashbacks to the demon crusades, and got PISSED
@spiderpsycho_8887 Ай бұрын
Considering the "Crucible" and the first tree, whatever it was, sort of represented unfettered life... They're very similar to the Dark Souls Demons.
@brentramsten249 8 ай бұрын
CK: "behold the divine power of the crucible!" BK: *big sword go bonk*
@TheJokerha Ай бұрын
😐
@jetteyes2064 Ай бұрын
burger king lol
@therandomartist3201 Ай бұрын
Crucible Knight: Fear me, I learned from dragons. Black knight: Fear me, I killed them all.
@redgarlicbred6228 10 ай бұрын
I'd like to point out that lore wise, black knights wielded those giant swords to kill giant demons several times their size, so them launching crucibles in the air is very fitting
@yulfine1688 7 ай бұрын
Crucible knights litterally fought giants etc... also their armor is much heavier but because of the stance system it doesn't matter.
@SpliffyHusk 5 ай бұрын
@@yulfine1688the weapons were made for anything big, giant demons or small. Crucible knights are elden rings black knights. But black knights were a massive army, so thousands and thousands of them existed wreaking havoc.
@agssilv5919 5 ай бұрын
@@SpliffyHuskcrucible knights are bitches
@Late_Guy 4 ай бұрын
@@yulfine1688 Much heavier yes, but the Black Knights wiped out the dragons from the face of the Earth. Even granted to wield Gwyn's power and there are much more of them in numbers (Seen in the 1st cutscene of DS1). They are basically the normal soldiers of Gwyn while the Crucible Knights are only deployed on special areas to protect something important
@jarlsterra 2 ай бұрын
@@yulfine1688You think the crucible knights were standing row to toe with the fire giants? They didn't. They fought them with strategy.
@Danktorias 10 ай бұрын
Crucible Knights partaking in the Black Knight space program is something I never knew I wanted to see so badly 😂
@Dark.Shingo 10 ай бұрын
I'm laughing off my ass here, thanks for that!
@gborgesw 10 ай бұрын
@@Dark.Shingo "space program" killed me hahaha
@mr.grasscube3929 10 ай бұрын
1:53
@Fellcat101 10 ай бұрын
Ehhh im more interested in the excavation team puttin in work
@CrashD6 7 ай бұрын
It's funny that Gwyn sent his dexterity based-dragon slaying Silver Knights to fight demons in "hell", and they came back taller and stronger, with burned armor and wielding giant weapons, putting those extra levels in strength to work
@thedemocraticfilipino6417 7 ай бұрын
1:54 classic burger flip. Killed me a million times, not surprised the same thing happened to the Crucible Knight.
@zen7RZ 10 ай бұрын
Black knights were walking tanks in DS3. Seeing one obliterate a Crucible knight's defenses (and launching them in the air) without budging makes them even more terrifying.
@that_one_jacob8181 10 ай бұрын
Well the stats in this video is modified and ds3 are different because in that game doesn’t have feature of stance breaking on those, it’s mechanical thing
@that_one_jacob8181 10 ай бұрын
*on the ds3 dark knight
@romulocarneiro3310 10 ай бұрын
@@that_one_jacob8181 Wrong, they have, but they're just ridiculously strong. In a "comparison" the only truth and reality, is they're *better, stronger, and faster.* They're the original Darksouls, the one that brought it's cheap copy to exist today, there's nothing wrong or mechanical error there, they're just *strong.*
@Ilovenazism 10 ай бұрын
Black knights are scary bro. I still remember the day, i got launched off the tower from that one black knight with an ultra greatsword in the undead burg.
@cherryrook8684 10 ай бұрын
Black Knight be like:”Poise? Never heard of it.“
@WellManneredNate 8 ай бұрын
*"Brother, let me show you how we did it in Lordran."*
@vVRichardVv 5 ай бұрын
*Crucible Knights getting constantly staggered* Me: "Oh my, that's beautiful"
@lucaswilliams2292 Ай бұрын
“Imagine using your shield as a shield.” -Crucible Knight Ordovis, moments before Black Knight broke his poise
@thegregitto 21 күн бұрын
"Imagine using your shield as a shield" - Black Knight before buhurt punching his helmet in and then uppercutting him into the Erdtree's branches
@jaronchaisamgratok5268 10 ай бұрын
Crucible knight: why won't you die?! Black knight: poise,son
@JarekSSJXify 10 ай бұрын
"Poise, son! It works as intended!"
@krisonveloc25 10 ай бұрын
"You can't stagger me, Siluria."
@romulocarneiro3310 10 ай бұрын
Well, they're just ridiculously strong and faster :O
@danielantony1882 10 ай бұрын
I mean, when you fight Giant Demons for life ðat hit like a skyscraper, you're bound to hit just as hard. @@romulocarneiro3310
@griffin1095 10 ай бұрын
Except they won 3 out of the four fights with original scaling lmfao. Black Knights don’t have the health to deal with them normally.
@Skullgar 8 ай бұрын
It's really interesting to watch. Black Knights actually feel like they're intended to fight NPCs while the Crucible Knights are clearly harder as a player. Pretty great fight.
@TheBronf 7 ай бұрын
the origional intent of the black knights in DS1 was for them to wonder around the world. so them intending to fight npcs can make sense.
@dustrockblues7567 7 ай бұрын
They do fight some other enemies in the smouldering lake in Dark Souls 3 I think.
@skipjacks85 6 ай бұрын
Yep. That’s how I would always get FUGS - lure the FUGS NPC over and have the black Knight take him out lol
@TheDkmBeats 5 ай бұрын
@@dustrockblues7567 They do in the Demon ruins in smoldering lake, but thats a one off.
@Gandhi_Physique 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, honestly the black knight seems really simple, just aggressive. Crucible knight is simple too, but there is more variation in attacks and does a lotta damage.
@99knives22 6 ай бұрын
5:49 even though he lost the fight, that block to shield bash combo was clean af
@dethkid7 6 ай бұрын
This is like seeing the first villain of an anime fight the most recent villain you despise the most
@Sellawntronolias 10 ай бұрын
Watching the majestic Black Knight absolutely batter the first Crucible Knight was beautiful. Truly owning up to their lore as elite demon hunting vanguards and displaying the weight behind their attacks
@luisalejandro3998 10 ай бұрын
Well, it's rather due to the fact that DS3 poise/stance/poise damage value standards are much higher than Elden Ring ones, since stance was not designed as core/important/consistent mechanic in DS3. But I suppose they don't change that on Boss vs Boss to make up for their smaller health bar.
@burrito721 10 ай бұрын
@@luisalejandro3998 I think I misunderstood your statement. Because I interpreted that “ds3’s poise values are just higher than ER’s poise values” which is just not true. Proof: full Havel gives ~50 poise with no rings or otherwise poise boosting thingies Full bull goat gives ~ 100 poise without talismans or poise boosting thingies
@CrescentCrusader99 10 ай бұрын
@@burrito721 He meant enemies.
@CrescentCrusader99 10 ай бұрын
Don’t forget Black Knights became demons themselves as they were originally Silver Knights, but got corrupted by the Chaos flame. Same thing happened to the Silver Knights of Eleum Loyce.
@Sellawntronolias 10 ай бұрын
@CrescentCrusader99 They were burnt black from the flames. You can see this most clearly with the Black Knight Sword which shows hints of silver along the blade while the rest is burnt black. Strange that the other black knight weapons and armor look like they were made of black metal rather than burnt
@user-vb1lz3ti9k 10 ай бұрын
At 1:02 you can notice Ordovis lifting his head, only to see fifty kilograms of the finest Lordran steel flying to his face. And while he flies back like a ragdoll, he is probably thinking that he should've chosen a different profession.
@Magikey 9 ай бұрын
He then proceeded to get angry,attempt to stomp out the black Knight in rage. Another fling and Ordovis decides, "Fine,I'll show you my real power" Creates a beautiful lustrous set of wings of light and lifts up into the air,gliding over the mighty Black Knight. Who is unfazed. Stoic
@Bthakilla4rilla 9 ай бұрын
I love how that first sentence is written lmao
@pizzazwned5772 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@SwagTheDripper 8 ай бұрын
From the scale of the sword alone it looks more like 100 to 150kg, ngl. Black Knights are just radiating badass energy and I absolutly love them.
@famebearer539 8 ай бұрын
Well that was an appropriate occasion to reconsider life choices
@butryniplz7247 7 ай бұрын
The amount of well timed blocks from both black knights is actually incredible, even when fighting NPCs. That black knight UGS was usually my top priority when it came to farming that category, the amount of power you had at your fingertips was bliss. Fighting NPCs or other players, just raw damage.
@KoscheiMorevna 6 ай бұрын
All black knight weapons are amazing.
@gr33dl0cknein3 5 ай бұрын
The AI for a lot of mobs in DS3 was just straight up better. FromSoft threw it away in favor of input reading.
@Umezete 5 ай бұрын
@@gr33dl0cknein3 Elden ring doesn't technically input read but they did overtune their reading a bit too much (they're technically responding to player animations but it triggers FAST, like first few frames of an animation)
@jimbeckman 6 ай бұрын
Now the crucible knight knows what a tarnished feels when we fight a crucible knight 😅
@agssilv5919 5 ай бұрын
Elden ring daniel got to meet the cooler daniel
@Hide-- 14 күн бұрын
Except for parrying users apparently
@whitewolf8780 10 ай бұрын
I love how the original scaling is actually somewhat of a balanced fight, the overwhelming power of the crucible knight vs the unrelenting assult of the black knight
@Halopen94 9 ай бұрын
Overwhelming? He was getting ragdolled the entire fight lol
@whitewolf8780 9 ай бұрын
@Halopen94 and when he does get a hit in it deals more damage
@Halopen94 8 ай бұрын
@@whitewolf8780 just saying that "overwhelming" might be the wrong word in this context
@whitewolf8780 8 ай бұрын
@Halopen94 once again, yes the black knight hits a lot and staggers the crucible knight for most of the fight, but the crucible knight still outclassed the black knight in raw damage
@Sad5witThe9ine 8 ай бұрын
I feel like the old dark souls had way to much poise break dmg
@BeatelementhePiH 10 ай бұрын
Black Knight: What is your pace? Crucible Knight: My pace is actually... Black Knight: IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR PACE IS!!
@kiro253 10 ай бұрын
Black knight: ARGHHH INFINITE STAMINAAAAAA
@anthonyharriel5685 10 ай бұрын
Black knight: AHAHAHAHAH YOU GOT THAT SHIELD RIGHT? GO ON, STOP ME STOOOOPPPP MMMEEEEEEE
@gr33dl0cknein3 5 ай бұрын
The main reason why most shields were useless in DS3.
@peterk.2108 3 ай бұрын
@@gr33dl0cknein3 ikr enemies were just fucking relentless
@chronicler6227 6 ай бұрын
Black Knight with the great sword said “I’m the original hard ass here. Let me enlighten you on what that means”.
@saraphimfalls5000 23 күн бұрын
BK: "I'm the reason the term "sweat" came to existence."
@MrSamthefan 6 ай бұрын
It's wild how it takes a set of named crucible knights to match up to a pair of random black knights from ds3. Really goes to show how incredibly strong they were.
@davidc. Ай бұрын
It just shows the difference in poise between the two games. Black knights were never difficult fights, unless you forgot how to use the dodge button.
@HessianLikeTheFabric Ай бұрын
Their design makes them very proficient in fighting enemies just like that, but if it were a mob that uses parries, as some to, the bk would have a much harder time
@robertpayne6781 8 ай бұрын
Crucible Knights never put the fear in me like the Black Knights did in my early encounters with them.
@axelmilan4292 Ай бұрын
I'll never forget my first encounter with the Black Knight in Undead Burg.
@muhammadadamarahman6488 Ай бұрын
@@axelmilan4292 i dropeed down from above to grab the loot and ended up losing the souls XD
@kiro253 Ай бұрын
@@axelmilan4292omg that one...the one in the tight space down beside the staircases right? Man and it was soo far away from the nearest bonefire too Fckin hell i am having ptsd
@thegregitto 21 күн бұрын
Dude the arming sword Black Knight in Undead Burg and DS1 tucked away in an alley watching over a blue tear stone ring, no crucible knight will ever live up to that. The Black Knights had this sort of feeling of being am ever present force that, like the item description of their equipment stated, haunted Lordran like disembodied spirits.
@elien902 15 күн бұрын
that’s because dying in dark souls is much more punushing, the crucible knights are tougher foes
@parkasaurus7311 10 ай бұрын
That shield punch on the first fight at the end was MAD disrespectful 😂😂😂
@theOGjaaxter 10 ай бұрын
So cinematic: the burger flip into shield punch. Like that old slapstick gag of punching an opponent as hard as you can and then knocking them down with a breath.
@NexusKirin 10 ай бұрын
“Nah, you thought-“
@wallacecollins8411 10 ай бұрын
That one was sooo petty. That's some DS3 PVP disrespect.
@Alex-rv6bc 10 ай бұрын
And then, bro went flying right after.. this is lit. But of course, doing this to a Black Knight is also priceless.
@bubbajoe117 8 ай бұрын
@@wallacecollins8411 Straight up looked like he nut punched him, the fact it came right after the Crucible Knight finally knocked him on his ass made it all the better, just filthy fighting.
@abluecardigan Ай бұрын
The sound the black knight makes as he sprints is triggering PTSD I didn't even know I had
@Colonel-Sigma Ай бұрын
"You look about the size of a jumped of Capra Demon." "What's that?" "It'll make more sense if I show you..."
@AsahiMiyagi 10 ай бұрын
It's also worth noting in lore the DS Black Knights weapons were designed to fight giant demons, so they're inately made to break poise, or posture easily so they can combat the large foes.
@kiro253 10 ай бұрын
I dont know if that effect carries over to the elden ring tho...i remember BK was ridiculous at destroying bosses poise back than
@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274 10 ай бұрын
@@kiro253they are made in the same engine so it’s practically a 1-1 convert over, if you go back and look at the “black knights vs X” boss videos they did that amount of pose damage back in dks3 too
@tc-channelhobby4051 10 ай бұрын
not just demons but anything bigger than them considering these sre the same guys that as well fought with the lords against the everlasting dragons and said dragons are massive. One example of this dragon can be seen in archdragon peak dead and hugging a mountain.
@tc-channelhobby4051 10 ай бұрын
and also the black knigts were made out of circumstances, not really intended to as gwyn by then left and anyone is doing there own thing. Like the witches creating demons and many more. There are actually two groups of black Knights. One is burned in the demon war and the other followed gwyn and burned in the first flame.
@Umezete 5 ай бұрын
@@tc-channelhobby4051 Black knights were basically elite silver knights, Gwyn sent some of his best to fight the demons and they became charred. Gywn took what was left to guard the kiln of the first flame and they were charred too. They apparently get charred often.
@thelonelystankmuncher8879 10 ай бұрын
For anyone curious, yes black knight armaments are poise breakers/stagger monsters its stated in the ds3 item descriptions
@JWStreeter 6 ай бұрын
This is probably the best demonstration of the BKs skill and aggression. Seriously one of the most badass enemies in any game I've seen.
@LostLokiYT Ай бұрын
I like how you can see the difference of design philosophy between the two. The flow and rhythm of the black knight. Clearly telegraphed and easy to understand. I personally prefer it to elden rings delay attacks, input reading and combo mix ups.
@whitewall2253 Ай бұрын
I like the combo mixups honestly, makes the enemies seem smarter when they catch you out. Input reads are hard to do well and elden ring ain't it chief.
@mat238 10 ай бұрын
Black Knights just have that infinity stamina strat.
@themaskmaster8013 10 ай бұрын
100% agreed
@Banana_John 10 ай бұрын
He definitely ate like, a stack of green blossoms
@Aenarion_Godslayer 10 ай бұрын
We all rolled in panic infinitely because of their endless attacks, just once. And also because they cover a lot of reach and do insane damage.
@Banana_John 10 ай бұрын
@@Kamawan0 I still believe the mace drakekeeper in ds2 has infinite stamina, or might as well be infinite anyway. I literally saw it doing 9-10 hit combos. Edit: Scratch that, i just looked up a video and he did a 23-hit combo. Dude definitely grew up on green blossom diet
@user-ih3mp7wj6j 10 ай бұрын
Implying that elden ring enemies have limited stamina 🤦♂️
@excusemewhatthefuck8091 10 ай бұрын
Its crazy how much poise break dark souls bosses have
@denis9582 10 ай бұрын
That's no boss bro - just a normal enemy :)
@br3hbmc79 10 ай бұрын
Its completely broken
@ElisOdin 10 ай бұрын
That's with all the DS3 characters. It seems more like a fault or mismatch than anything else.
@denis9582 10 ай бұрын
@@ElisOdin Indeed - But that is allways the case if he do something like "DS3 Boss vs. Elden Ring Bosses" - Even if they be similar games - pose wise they are totally differend.
@ElisOdin 10 ай бұрын
@@denis9582 The damage is the same, but the poise is not? The bosses in both games are so hard to debuff and they generally do the same damage and debuff. It's a programming mismatch.
@brookenavin7466 5 ай бұрын
That shield bash in the face into the stomp uppercut was nasty 💀
@RagnaRantz 6 ай бұрын
Crucible Knight: “I have seen the destruction of a kingdom. Queens & Kings fall. A great being form a cultist religion that blinds devout followers. War upon war.” Black Knight: “Yeah, bit of the same” leans in to whisper “-but you all still believe in “poise”-we do not B!TCH!” 🤣
@tausifarman4821 10 ай бұрын
Two legendary knights from different worlds, yet equally matched in their own way, this is beautiful
@WeakerWeakest 10 ай бұрын
Ah yes I too love seeing a crucible knight getting poise broken
@user-ev9gk4vp8x 10 ай бұрын
Equally matched?😂😂..You saw the Crucible etting knocked on his arse right?
@DonJoe1 9 ай бұрын
@user-ev9gk4vp8x maybe you should try rewatching the video because the black knight wins the first round but with only a quarter of health left the crucible knight then goes on to win the next THREE rounds but again with very little health. on the 4th round the black knight comes out on top but with only a sliver left. Yes these monsters are both very equal in power. You only think the black knight is stronger just because it does big poise damage.
@TheAdriyaman 9 ай бұрын
@@user-ev9gk4vp8x Did you watch the full video? Because I did, and it was a 4 - 4 draw.
@Do0mSl4yer95 8 ай бұрын
@@DonJoe1 I feel the first fight is the definitive answer. They're mostly equal but the main problem is at regular stats and equal stats the Ultra-greatsword Black Knight specifically poise breaks Crucible Knight Ordovis at every turn. The Crucible Knights also have magic attacks that damage through the Black Knights shield and they do more raw damage per hit. However you can't deny the sheer determination of the Black Knight grants him an edge over The Crucible Knight. The Crucible Knights seem to dominate when the Black Knights aren't using Ultra Great weapons.
@anthonymeschino8679 10 ай бұрын
This is probably the most cathartic thing I’ve ever seen. I didn’t know I needed to see a Crucible Knight get poise broken so much but, now I have. And damn does it feel GREAT
@user-en4qj9to8l 7 ай бұрын
It’s look Terrifying
@niizzy7485 23 күн бұрын
That armor isnt black for cosmetic reasons, those dudes were cooked by dragons and still survived
@darksoul_5341 5 ай бұрын
The way that the first Black knight killed Ordovis was sick as hell
@TheDefiledShell 10 ай бұрын
Gwyn’s knights were no joke. Just goes to show just how strong Gwyn was.
@benjaminthibieroz4155 8 ай бұрын
Well, Nameless King and Orstein were the ones who lead them.
@applejuice5096 7 ай бұрын
Crucible knight: can fly and has extremely powerful incantations Black knight: Perseverance skill has entered the chat
@ashtru1219 7 ай бұрын
@@benjaminthibieroz4155nameless king had his own knights, the knights of the sun of which ornstien was the one of if not the highest ranking captain
@UlfMTG 6 ай бұрын
That's what I thought, Ordovis is just one dude but Gwyn had whole armies of Black Knights. Pretty cool
@steve_broxi 6 ай бұрын
Try parrying
@MrEvan312 10 ай бұрын
It's pretty fun to watch when there's actually a sort of balance: Crucible knights hit like a bus and can take more damage, have a much more varied move set and tools at their disposal, but the Black Knight refuses to be knocked down or slapped out of his animation and just keeps. On. Counterattacking. So determined. The Crucible Knight's damage output and the Black Knight's poise make them surprisingly even matches for each other despite their many differences.
@MrJinglejanglejingle 10 ай бұрын
Well, that's mostly to do with the Black Knights not really having a poise value, back in the day. You'd ALWAYS kill them LOOOOOONG before you could break their stance. Which is a design philosophy that was pretty limiting and unimaginative. Thankfully, they've changed that, but this is a good way to see how it used to be.
@kiro253 10 ай бұрын
@@MrJinglejanglejingleu can poise break them...but really hard(they have the highest poise of all knights) this remains true even in dark soul 1
@MrJinglejanglejingle 10 ай бұрын
@@kiro253 Last I checked, you can't actually poise break them. You can stagger them, but yeah, that's a rarity. You will NEVER get a riposte out of smacking the shit out of Dark Souls enemies, though.
@handtomouth4690 10 ай бұрын
@@MrJinglejanglejingleyou're mixing up stance and poise. That "stagger" IS the poise break. For most enemies in DS3, poise breaking resulted in a flinch of some kind, meanwhile in ER, you have poise AND stance. You can actually poise break an enemy in ER sometimes multiple times before their stance breaks. Now it's also true that many DS3 bosses had a "stance break" like effect whenever you dealt enough poise damage, but it's an ultimately different system than ER.
@MrJinglejanglejingle 10 ай бұрын
@@handtomouth4690 Bah, semantics. I always clarified that you can't get a riposte out of it, so people knew what I meant.
@rodionlee2533 7 ай бұрын
These two gigachads are easily the best designed for 1v1 fights, I just love doing fair and square head on dueling in such games. It almost feels shameful to heal against these honorable warriors, a formidable foes indeed.
@WARRE7V 7 ай бұрын
I just find it insane and awesome af that videos like these are possible when other FS characters are in elden ring
@spencergage95 10 ай бұрын
Just hearing the clanking of the black knight’s armor takes me back to ds3. Hard to believe that was 8 years ago.
@purehollow 10 ай бұрын
8? Ds3 released in 2016 seven years ago
@dogehasagi8643 10 ай бұрын
@@purehollow ig he meant about ds1
@despeinadormisterioso5741 10 ай бұрын
@@purehollow DS was released in 2011 - 12 years ago lol
@spencergage95 10 ай бұрын
@@purehollow My mistake, I'm bad at math.
@bladexic5461 10 ай бұрын
@@despeinadormisterioso5741 DS3 not DS1
@renegade6578 10 ай бұрын
Black Knight is treating the Crucible Knights like normal enemies in terms of poise lmao
@kiro253 10 ай бұрын
For real lol...i never staggered those fcking crucible knights...they are insane Then again i also never staggered a black knight either
@mathewklatil5455 10 ай бұрын
@@kiro253 Its because the modder left number from one game and put it into another one. Look at more of his videos, all DS3 bosses and minibosses stancebreak after a single hit because of how DS3 stored poisebreak numbers
@danielantony1882 10 ай бұрын
Ðis is ðe only one ðat makes sense, lore-wise. @@mathewklatil5455
@CessarVillarreal Ай бұрын
Holy sht the first black knight absolutely cooked
@muyasu944 7 ай бұрын
2:48 black knight is a monster dude😂, ty for this, these fights are so good
@olimargaming5747 9 ай бұрын
That shield poke at 1:52 for that stagger was amazing
@animes9719 4 ай бұрын
what is the name of this shield?
@olimargaming5747 4 ай бұрын
Uhm.... Black knight shield
@217adaptiveperspective Ай бұрын
Jabbed him in the damn throat
@averylaible6312 10 ай бұрын
That shield bash at 1:53 was PERSONAL.
@perrycarters3113 8 ай бұрын
That was such a cool finish to that fight. C-Knight charging up a potentially fight-ending attack and the Black Knight is just *bonk* then LAUNCH.
@bubbajoe117 8 ай бұрын
The fact it came right after the crucible knight knocked the black knight down made it feel extra dirty too, I love it just fucking vicious.
@Do0mSl4yer95 8 ай бұрын
It was beautiful. I laughed so hard because it felt like the Black Knight got so pissed off he just punched the Crucible Knight in the face and yeeted him off the map.
@demo_AAA 8 ай бұрын
He really said "Cool party trick"
@MerliiinWyllt 8 ай бұрын
Right! Like it was a player not AI
@Den_Volt 6 ай бұрын
“Elden Lord? Never heard of him. But have you head of our lord and savior Poise Break!”
@Coleslawman17701 Ай бұрын
1:51 Ordovis started charging his ultimate move and got fucking punched in the teeth and violated man😭
@fr0stw0lf97 10 ай бұрын
I still cheer for Black Knight. "Man screw your fancy moves, I'll just smash through you like it's just another Thursday"
@burstingolem8023 27 күн бұрын
The way The crucible knight lift's head right before the final hit after the stagger is just 👐
@deathcrush79 8 ай бұрын
video creator: alright imma give you both an equal amount of poise. Black Knight: waddiyatalkinabeet
@mr.yungthug5166 9 ай бұрын
5:52 That combo though 😮💨
@hamzamuhammadkhan 9 ай бұрын
Loved that, the BK was like FFFF UUUUU 😂
@kyoufo 10 ай бұрын
i've always believed that DS3 Black Knights have infinite stamina, they're just ... brutal man
@FRealw27026 10 ай бұрын
hello sister friede killer
@kyoufo 10 ай бұрын
@@FRealw27026 👋
@mum-your 10 ай бұрын
just parry
@zentazym1 10 ай бұрын
It kinda makes sense from a lore perspective. I think the actual flesh got disintegrated in their armor for Gwyn and now it’s just suits of armor inhabited by the knights spirits, and I would imagine the spirits don’t have stamina
@Hunter-zf7rt 10 ай бұрын
@@zentazym1true but not spirits, it's actual ash in those suites
@face9118 Ай бұрын
It reminds me of that silver knight and black knight meme "Your daughter calls me daddy too"
@simplythecat4068 Ай бұрын
Didn't expect the crazy chain poise breaks on them from black Knight tbh, he throws them around like they're made out of paper.
@EdTheDragonSlayer 8 ай бұрын
It's so satisfying to see Ordovis eating shit a million times in a row.
@LunasFaruza 9 ай бұрын
@1:51 BRUH, THE DISRESPECT IN THAT EXECUTION💀
@SC-zq6cu 6 ай бұрын
CN: "HERE COMES MY -- !" BN: "shut the f*** up and get the f*** out."
@LunasFaruza 6 ай бұрын
@@SC-zq6cu FAX
@bruhbruh7886 5 ай бұрын
He done did the “up up and away”
@Mr.ToastedFrybread 4 ай бұрын
true
@peterk.2108 3 ай бұрын
nigga said "bruh I've been doing this longer than you"
@user-qb2if8se8e 6 ай бұрын
Hard-core souls fan that started with darksouls 1-3. I suck at parrying but the fact that I can parry the crucible knights easily (with any shield) proves that ds was truly difficult.
@GodfreyGaming-wv2gd 4 ай бұрын
Every time I watch your videos, I’m inspired to try new strategies in my own game. Thanks for the ideas!
@abbyss2898 10 ай бұрын
1:52 That tackle was clean af.
@Monyato 9 ай бұрын
Dude saw him doing some flashy magic and said “fuck that flashy shit catch these magic hands”
@Iczzy103 9 ай бұрын
@@Monyato 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
@alanwatts8239 8 ай бұрын
@@Monyato "Block this you filthy casual"
@aperson9847 10 ай бұрын
Seeing a crucible knight get stance broken that many times in two minutes was honestly the highlight of my day.
@moncreebrown948 5 ай бұрын
Exactly. Hate fighting those bastards.
@empiricus2211 5 ай бұрын
@@moncreebrown948Especially after fighting that first one in that upside down city, only to find another one across the bridge. Almost broke my controller lmao
@brownie5087 2 ай бұрын
Black Knight: "buddy you think you look strong? You're wearing a cape"
@conskript Ай бұрын
The way that the Black Knight finished off the Crucible knight was brutal, just what you would expect from the Knights of Gwyn. 01:53 Anyway, I feel like the Black Knights lend themselves better to pure damage-calculations, because they don't stagger easily and they better recovery times, meanwhile the Crucible knights are more akin to fighting smart, by exploiting the stagger mechanics to keep them from constantly attacking, which only really lends itself well if you have a massive weapon and uncrushable attack patterns, which the Dark Knights seem to excel at.
@RovingPunster 8 ай бұрын
That was ... unexpected. Despite having far less HP, the black knight had a faster move set, and was able to keep breaking the crucible knight's stance - thereby interrupting it's attacks.
@kuro8151 7 ай бұрын
When I first encountered him in Ds3 I thought he was a boss but hiding HP bar
@hyper_channel 6 ай бұрын
@@kuro8151 the one in the swamp I'm sure has killed more players than many bosses
@philcollins5457 5 ай бұрын
"All this talk of Primordial Crucibles, blessings of gold and braying about a solemn duty; you wasted all that air talking, and where has it gotten you?" (uppercuts)
@jackfavvv0280 5 ай бұрын
The Black Knights actually know how and when to utilize their shields too.
@lorenzogarompolo8074 5 ай бұрын
That will teach the Crucible Knights that delaying every single attack ain't that smart
@jakeknight1995 10 ай бұрын
Okay. Being so strong you can flip a crucible knight is badass enough. But the sheer disrespect up punching them into the next century with a shield is giving me a feeling of pure joy. And I want it as an ash of war.
@adamshead 7 ай бұрын
I think it really comes down to the fact that one enemy literally could not be staggered in their game like the other one could
@jetteyes2064 Ай бұрын
"Those are some nice complex ash of war abilities you got there, now taste my blade."
@ladonmccabe 10 ай бұрын
I mean, those weapons were made to fight huge demons...
@CrescentCrusader99 10 ай бұрын
Yeah pretty much like the Omen Cleavers.
@ValomyrsLight 10 ай бұрын
@@CrescentCrusader99 hardly lmao
@Dominated001 10 ай бұрын
@@CrescentCrusader99lmao, no, the black knight weapons are made to fight big ass demons of chaos
@mum-your 10 ай бұрын
and then get parried by a buckler, classic
@urbanchaos399 10 ай бұрын
Didn’t they also use them to fight the dragons as well? Or were the knights created afterwards. I don’t remember at all
@dundealshowdown 10 ай бұрын
The Black Knights are so plucky even in original scaling, it's insane; way behind in damage and health but still making every match close win-or-lose o:
@doomrider7 10 ай бұрын
For real. They're just fucking UNITS with how powerful they are. Definitely wanna see Banished Knights or Lordsworn vs either Silver Knights or Lothric Knights. and
@MeeplingMystery 9 ай бұрын
The health was multiplied by 4, and that stats were scaled. The Black Knight HP was not accurate. Normally it'd die in a few hits.
@NvianJ009 4 ай бұрын
For those who are interested, but don’t want to figure it out themselves I figured out how much of a threat dark knights would be in er using this vid, using the er wiki, I can tell the the dark knight does 40 (or higher) stance damage, since it takes 2 hits to break the poise of a crucible knight (80). 40 stance damage is ABSURD, so absurd in fact that with any poise below 80 (seeing as how most medium weight armor sets barely get over the 60 mark, that doesn’t bode well) 1-2 hits from this thing will IMMEDIATELY stance break you, and the 40 stance damage isn’t even confirmed, it’s most likely higher because he also flinches the crucible every hit. Furthermore the damage on this man climbs to over 400 every hit for the sword one, and 200-300 for the axe one, for reference, 25 vigor is 800 hp and 35 is 1216 so if you get comboed once, that’s pretty much death. This means that in er, unless you love that bull goat armor and have over 40 vigor you’d practically have to no hit dark knight just to have a chance of winning. Keep in mind I don’t really have a deep understanding of the poise system in this game, as it’s extremely complicated, but I think this explanation is sufficient enough to explain that these knights would be actual hell to fight in a normal run
@cs_calzone 6 ай бұрын
Nothing has made me wanna get in a big suit of armor and fight another man (or anyone really) to death with giant weapons more than this video, except maybe that one ESO trailer. the exchanges here sometimes look like the stuff you would see in cutscenes of legendary duels
@jaydenw9803 10 ай бұрын
This makes me want a Soulsborne fighting game, kinda like Smash Bros but instead you can pick characters from all of the different Fromsoft games and fight at lore significant locations from each game. Seeing Elden Ring's Fire Giant square off against Yhorm in the middle of Yharnam would be amazing.
@vaclavherout3614 10 ай бұрын
I'd main the sword master
@LunarBloodRose27 10 ай бұрын
I bet the Abyss Watchers would be so fun to play with
@jaydenw9803 10 ай бұрын
I just imagine that each time you die it plays a special animation where a new watcher kills the one you were playing as and then you assume control of the new one, and their ultimate is a whole bunch of them coming on screen at once and doing a massive combo on someone.@@LunarBloodRose27
@Gakusangi 10 ай бұрын
Soul Calibur
@chelseasmith274 10 ай бұрын
Do you know how much money I would pay for this... too damn much !
@hobosorcerer 10 ай бұрын
When you remember that the black knights are likely undead, this makes a lot of sense. It's harder to stop an undead than a living creature.
@KiteeTheFox 10 ай бұрын
Holy magic >:(
@Stone_Orchids 10 ай бұрын
No, the black and silver knights are constructs
@secretminty6398 10 ай бұрын
@@Stone_Orchidsas per the armor description in DS1: "Armor of the Black Knights who haunt Lordran. The knights followed Lord Gwyn when he departed to link the Fire but they were burned to ashes in the newly kindled flame, wandering the world as disembodied spirits ever after." If they were constructs, burning to ash would mean that they wouldnt even exist anymore. And given that they are stated to be disembodied spirits, they cant be a construct. They were once living things, and are now a form of undead. Just not the same type of undead as the player. As for the Silver Knights, they have minds of their own that proves they are not simple constructs; Leo couldnt use the Silver Knight Straight Sword nor spear, and chose a hammer instead, going against everything the other knights did - and if you know anything about militaristic forces, uniformity is important. That, and he was willing to leave to find Havel. Difference is that Silver Knights likely still have their bodies underneath, and are likely the undead we're used to seeing rather than disembodied spirits. They arent constructs.
@ganjacomo2005 10 ай бұрын
@@secretminty6398I don't think they are undead since Gwyn knights were from the "god" race, thus lacking the dark soul. The humans that fought alonside Gwyn, like the slave knights, were forgotten or confined in the ringed city. The Silver knights, being Gwyn's fellows, got the privilege of guarding Anor Londo instead, and most likely they were all part of the nobility and revered by humans as gods. Like all "gods" they were immune to natural death but they lacked the dark soul fragment, so they couldn't get affected by the undead curse.
@CaptainSkylocke 10 ай бұрын
They're empty haunted suits of armour the bodies in them burned away a long time ago.
@CCA.C17.SQL.02Idot Ай бұрын
Damn Black Knights are for real just fucking built different...
@johnsherratt5487 27 күн бұрын
Crucible knight: "I'm the upgrade" Black Knight: "buddy...you're wearing a cape, you're just a cheap fuckin knock off." 💀
@missingone9185 10 ай бұрын
I'd say this was a very balanced and even match. The Crucible Knights have their immense damage and utility of crucible shenanigans matched by the Black Knights' consistent attacks and big boi poise.
@Grayfox354 10 ай бұрын
Arsenal vs determination, it's wonderful to behold
@Smitywerban 6 ай бұрын
The big problem is, that black knights aren't ER enemys, thus they don't have the strance break mechanik.
@Nomoon777 6 ай бұрын
@@Smitywerban The problem is the lack of stagger to stop any attack, if you look there is moments where the crucible hits with a shield bash and it does literally nothing.
@Jellyforge 10 ай бұрын
This really shows you how different DS and ER were in terms of enemy brutality and also how much FromSoft did their best to make the franchise feel fresh. We spent 3 games of DS enemies that attacked fluidly and straightforward . One Swing right after the next until combo finished. The Black Knights were tough bc of how quick and hard their combos were. Elden Ring played on that familiarity and gave us enemies with delayed attacks and really weird timing on attacks regardless of how telegraphed they were. Also letting us stun lock enemies was a major plus which is why the crucible knights are getting creamed.
@user-zl8sv8tj7w 8 ай бұрын
DS enemy AI gets incredibly aggressive if you have a lot of souls on you, if youve ever farmed a drakeblood greatsword or staff of mendicus, that area is a good farm and the summoned drakeblood sword enemy can be pretty deceptive
@Ciffer-1998 8 ай бұрын
@@user-zl8sv8tj7w Is that true for all the npcs or?
@user-zl8sv8tj7w 8 ай бұрын
@@Ciffer-1998 not sure! Archdragon peak has a bonfire just past nameless king, it’s an area with a lot of those humanoid things that spit fire, and some of the really tall ones too, i cant remember their name. It’s on the way to fight Havel. I tested it on them as well -wanted to see if i could farm the chained greataxe that they throw at you- seems to be the same for Havel too and the fireball guys. Im not sure if its because it’s an area you access later in the game or what
@kuro8151 7 ай бұрын
poise break in ER is so op charge atk then critical atk
@Nate69lazer 7 ай бұрын
I wouldnt say those changes were an improvement....
@Brekbo7826 4 ай бұрын
Black knight really showed him the reason they wiped out the ancient dragons
@kiro253 Ай бұрын
The way they block and attack without stopping at all...they are ruthless as hell Did not know their shield turnout to be really advantageous for them
@wolvenedvard3049 10 ай бұрын
1:52 I want that shield punch as an Ash Of War so bad. Anyway sick combo.
@mw_ym 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was an epic move to finish the fight! Ordovis was winding up, and the BK UGS shield bashed him back onto his heels and then sliced him up!
@connorparks4568 8 ай бұрын
Brings me back to my first Black Knight encounter in DS1. Good times.
@treasongaming2462 Ай бұрын
Watching that Black Knight tank everything heals my soul. Watching the Crucible Knight on his knees purifies my soul!
@sparkslegends7482 4 ай бұрын
That Black Knight was slapping the Crucible Knight around like it was nothing. I’m glad I never got that far in Dark Souls 1 to face the Black Knight, but I faced many Crucible Knights and I still have trouble with them, but the Black Knight made it look easy taking out the Crucible Knight.
@Addyboy0190 10 ай бұрын
I noticed the dark souls enemies tend to have lower hp and lower atk dmg but they are poise breakers
@kiro253 10 ай бұрын
Well...they did pick a knight that was literally notorious at destroying enemy poise even back in dark souls... Heck that is literally their weapon specialty...breaking poise
@emperorborgpalpatine 10 ай бұрын
It's more like everything in elden ring have almost no poise. You can stance break almost everything with 2~3 back to back charged heavy attacks.
@IdRatherNotGoThere 10 ай бұрын
I love how the Black Knight was just like: "Lemme talk to em'"
@cainanlove8432 Ай бұрын
And this is without the unique lightning miracles these guys had in their prime.
@simonolomudzski3985 Ай бұрын
It's kinda neat seeing how Black Knight is slapping due to DS3 enemies not delaying their attacks until the heat death of the Universe.
@xurmountableskullfork1079 8 ай бұрын
3:15 if the black knight would’ve pulled off that uppercut it would’ve been insane
@sarteron 3 ай бұрын
TRUE, but Im pretty sure the only reason he got finished by that was due to the counter attack mechanic making the crucible knights wing slide do 30% more damage because black knights attack had just barely missed. Was actually way more close/clutch than people realize.
@axelmilan4292 Ай бұрын
If he had started that swing just a second or two earlier...
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