A Bass-Bar inside a violin?!? Master violin maker explains how it works

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Ask Olaf the Violinmaker

Ask Olaf the Violinmaker

Күн бұрын

Why does a violin have a Bass Bar?
Master Violin Maker Olaf Grawert talks about the importance of the bassbar inside the violin, viola and cello, and how it works.
Watch Olaf as he replaces a bassbar in an old violin.
00:00 I explain about bassbars
02:30 Preparing the bass bar
04:22 Fitting the bassbar
07:46 Gluing the bassbar
11:43 Shaping the bassbar
15:10 Conclusion
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@samacbain
@samacbain 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly my favourite youtuber. Such a vibe. Love ya Olaf
@musicblossom5512
@musicblossom5512 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like Olaf is enjoying the music war as much as we are😂
@tylerthackray5664
@tylerthackray5664 3 жыл бұрын
TwoSet fans are a huge part of his user base so it makes sense to keep your videos cross promotional to keep being relevant
@musicblossom5512
@musicblossom5512 3 жыл бұрын
Tyler Thackray it was more of a joke but I get what you’re saying👍
@wandelinw
@wandelinw 3 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@cactusowo1835
@cactusowo1835 3 жыл бұрын
I would say instrument war
@musicblossom5512
@musicblossom5512 3 жыл бұрын
@Cactus owo you get what I mean 😂
@heidikhalisah7393
@heidikhalisah7393 3 жыл бұрын
He's now Olaf the Peace Maker
@delll372
@delll372 3 жыл бұрын
twoset and davie: in instruments war olaf: has joined the chat
@Jay-S04
@Jay-S04 3 жыл бұрын
Bassed(heh) on the title I thought of the god pillar lol
@adrianinha19
@adrianinha19 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@emilyedwards4914
@emilyedwards4914 3 жыл бұрын
Violin is a secret bass! 0.0 Olaf over here promoting peace between instruments.
@kamikamieu
@kamikamieu 3 жыл бұрын
Don't tell TwoSet about it, Violin came from BASS
@ChloeHowie
@ChloeHowie 3 жыл бұрын
being real here. The Wig.... it's iconic.
@marcelszekowski315
@marcelszekowski315 3 жыл бұрын
69 LIKES
@ChloeHowie
@ChloeHowie 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelszekowski315 nice 👌
@marcelszekowski315
@marcelszekowski315 3 жыл бұрын
72 :(
@keifthys1740
@keifthys1740 3 жыл бұрын
Edwina?
@n.leitkepova
@n.leitkepova 3 жыл бұрын
It's almost like Edwina
@michael_koski
@michael_koski 3 жыл бұрын
I did it! I : 1) accent'd the like button! 2) legato'd the subscribe button! 3) and I am commenting down below! Btw, I really enjoyed this! I play violin, and I was procrastina- I mean practicing- and now I can't stop watching you(and TwoSetViolin)! it's just really cool learning about how it works, I've learned so much more about the violin because of you! Please keep being A M A Z I N G !!! - Ana P.S. I'm wondering if you are enjoying the Violin> bass war like I am? Edit: Yes, I did finished Practicing afterwards! Guys, I have LingLing insurance.
@Chloe-ze4yy
@Chloe-ze4yy 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@typokween7980
@typokween7980 3 жыл бұрын
Pracrastinating
@jimothysparkcus
@jimothysparkcus 3 жыл бұрын
tut tut tut. Like buttons get S L A P P
@buskergirl
@buskergirl 3 жыл бұрын
But have you practiced? 🤔
@handel2488
@handel2488 3 жыл бұрын
If you can't stop watching their videos, then you aren't really practising at all... Please don't take this very seriously, I'm not up for an endless argument. ☺️
@xxPenjoxx
@xxPenjoxx 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, even Olaf is getting involved with the diss! Great video, keep up the awesome work, I love seeing the work that goes into violin making and how you explain everything.
@janden8832
@janden8832 3 жыл бұрын
I will watch you every day for the rest of the school year
@AeroCraftAviation
@AeroCraftAviation 3 жыл бұрын
2:20 "Well one of the functions is to make sure the entire front of the instrument doesn't totally collapse. But the MORE IMPORTANT function is"... lol.
@lotsabirds
@lotsabirds 3 жыл бұрын
You can never have too many clamps!
@TwoSetPlaylists
@TwoSetPlaylists 3 жыл бұрын
A new contestant has entered the game!
@wubbie8152
@wubbie8152 3 жыл бұрын
yay we have olaf on our side
@raoulbakker1287
@raoulbakker1287 3 жыл бұрын
As a bassist, i still love your videos olaf!
@MinTiaraK
@MinTiaraK 3 жыл бұрын
I love this! It's very educative, and you can see all the hard work that goes into making this video! (Imagine doing a very delicate work fixing the bass-bar itself and then having to talk about it / show it on camera/ position the camera etc) Thanks Olaf!
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Lucy. I really appreciate your comment... You are right... It's not always easy to put together a video, but I really love educating string players. It just makes better players when people really understand their instrument.
@ersikillian
@ersikillian Жыл бұрын
Some years ago, when I was working for the highway department, I had stopped my truck in the pouring rain to remove debris from the road. Laying just off the road, in the woods, I found a completely waterlogged and disassembled violin. I carefully picked up all the pieces and brought them home (my father was once a violinist, I still have his 1925 Contino.) When I dried the instrument, I noticed that the bass bar was not a separate piece, but was carved from the same spruce as the top (or belly, as my father used to call it) It seemed very crude. The barely legible label said it was a Stradivarius (obviously a crude copy) have you ever seen a bass bar carved into the top? The finger board had fallen off and had a number "19" written in pencil underneath. The numeral "1" was a European script with a large up up swoosh, so you know it wasn't of American manufacture. The only other oddball thing was a tiny, square peg fitted to the top of the neck block, which fitted into a tiny hole on the backside of the belly (or top piece). Again, I have never seen anything like that. Everything had come unglued - the ribs, linings, both top and back were all separated. It's a very dark and ugly instrument, but I couldn't throw it away.
@julianshowalter7001
@julianshowalter7001 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant. Would greatly appreciate a long term series show casing a violin being built from start to finish if you have the desire
@mars-xi8vw
@mars-xi8vw 3 жыл бұрын
I’m fairly new to the violin making world, but I really enjoy and love the fact that Olaf makes it pretty easy to understand and explains what kind of materials he’s using :) sending love and wishing you health
@kimbarklage1115
@kimbarklage1115 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf! You are a joy to watch!
@TheFirstAssEater
@TheFirstAssEater 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf has joined the battle
@anthonyzbikowski529
@anthonyzbikowski529 3 жыл бұрын
Always a joy to watch you work and explain what is going on.
@lukas3687
@lukas3687 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks Mr. Grawert!
@koyenabasu3249
@koyenabasu3249 3 жыл бұрын
Hehe!!! Accented and slapped the like button XD
@lexdeedrick2980
@lexdeedrick2980 3 жыл бұрын
Watching your video feels like watching man at arm's forging all those cool weapons. You're awesome, and very knowledgeable! Twoset and their music war brought me here, but your impressive way of explaining the inner workings and the craftsmanship behind the violin kept me here all the way through! Thank you for this; I had no idea this existed, and I love it!
@lisaferrara8120
@lisaferrara8120 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!!
@micah_wong
@micah_wong 3 жыл бұрын
*CHECKMATE*
@JustSnowglow
@JustSnowglow 3 жыл бұрын
love these project style videos!
@feiramusical1868
@feiramusical1868 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Great Job!
@reggiewilliamsmusic5
@reggiewilliamsmusic5 3 жыл бұрын
(I am an orchestral violinist) Mr. Olaf I really like watching your videos. This one on the bass-bar was so informative. Thank you. Good luck in your endeavors.
@christophernaze
@christophernaze 3 жыл бұрын
So good.
@MrFoxtar
@MrFoxtar 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Olaf for sharing your knowledge.
@feb5th
@feb5th 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for Davie and Twoset to see this video 🤣🤣🤣
@gouveawell
@gouveawell 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Olaf, you're really very skillfull. It's a pleasure to watch you working. Cheers!
@firebald2915
@firebald2915 10 ай бұрын
This is such a fun channel ! I enjoy your meticulous work ethic and attention to detail. And your humorous side photos,(dog stuck in a couch corner) tight glue illustration. Hahaha ! I've learned to set up my own guitars to make them effortlessly playable. (Arthritis) Thank you Olaf
@davidtolley5435
@davidtolley5435 3 жыл бұрын
GOOD INFO.
@portoesdeprata7283
@portoesdeprata7283 3 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome. I love seeing good craftsmanship in action.
@ChelseaThomasArt
@ChelseaThomasArt 3 жыл бұрын
That was interesting. Thank you for the video!
@fiddlix
@fiddlix 3 жыл бұрын
Great show. Always enjoy your content.
@BaroqueViolin
@BaroqueViolin 3 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you so much!
@codytheodore5699
@codytheodore5699 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video like usual.
@travisfimmel6143
@travisfimmel6143 10 ай бұрын
bravo amazing
@bluehoo0
@bluehoo0 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, once again it’s fascinating the importance of all these little pieces of wood.
@Mariska9943
@Mariska9943 3 жыл бұрын
Top quality content as always!
@sittynj
@sittynj 3 жыл бұрын
Wholesome content from the one and only Olaf ✨🤧
@DevilishlyDutch
@DevilishlyDutch 3 жыл бұрын
I do so love a behind the scenes look of how stuff is made, the violin is just such a refined piece of woodcraft, so much work for just one piece of it!
@bobafettbounty8769
@bobafettbounty8769 3 жыл бұрын
FLIPPIN LOVE THIS
@shipsahoy1793
@shipsahoy1793 3 жыл бұрын
👍 thanks always for the violin education 👨🏻
@kiddcomet3563
@kiddcomet3563 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome shop and very instructional..!! You got me into the violin 🎻 👍
@lu0844
@lu0844 3 жыл бұрын
Way to go Olaf, keeping up with the bois!!
@frankhermansen243
@frankhermansen243 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not into Classic music and still i find these videos Brilliant 🤘
@GoPractic4
@GoPractic4 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Olaf, I am curious that why you have to cut it in the end, not just cut it before you glue.
@seankayll9017
@seankayll9017 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I was wondering the same thing. Why not cut to length before glueing?
@blueknigh7
@blueknigh7 3 жыл бұрын
I would guess it has to do with the glue and drying process. You're not able to clamp ends as well as you can the middle. By having a little extension, you're able to have a firmer contact through the entire length of the bass bar. Also the fine "forming" of the ends he does might be easier when on the top plate than off.
@rocknroller912
@rocknroller912 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the bass bar construction. A lot of makers are very secretive so it's good to get a masterclass.
@luigi8414
@luigi8414 3 жыл бұрын
I am happy that even Olaf is aware of this war
@UrielLopezTraining
@UrielLopezTraining 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this explanation!! Through you and others, I have rediscovered my passion for classical music. Understanding the violin deeper has given me a greater appreciation for learning to play earlier in life!
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful to hear
@kpcheck1
@kpcheck1 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf thank you so much for sharing your work. This is the second video I watched from you. I am very interested in violin repair and restoration work. Just got the right person to show me. Thanks again. Kevin Wong.. Malaysia.
@user-oq5vx3ex8o
@user-oq5vx3ex8o 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your video ! I'm not a violinist but your video makes me really want to start violon !
@thirdyinmenzo7965
@thirdyinmenzo7965 3 жыл бұрын
yeah
@MrSweelinck
@MrSweelinck 3 жыл бұрын
Curious why not make the bass bar to length before installing. I'm sure there's a reason, but it seems like the chisel to remove a centimeter from the ends is a bit nerve wracking.
@BaStTiLo
@BaStTiLo 3 жыл бұрын
YEEESSS OLAF GET ON ITTT
@otaviomaionese
@otaviomaionese 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo. Olaf, would you say that you can slap Bass on a violin?
@hobbybugs1286
@hobbybugs1286 3 жыл бұрын
Yeess its just harder to get the heavier sound out of it
@antheajohnson4234
@antheajohnson4234 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf is now entering the war, i see _Olaf: Debunks Twoset in the first 10 seconds_ *Twoset: So you have chosen death*
@irenelavinesia8764
@irenelavinesia8764 3 жыл бұрын
My mood is Olaf: *just vibing*
@AndrewLong
@AndrewLong 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual! would love to know what a violin sounds like without the bass bar!
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker 3 жыл бұрын
hmmm... I might have to give that a go sometimes... I'm curious too
@Nezumi--
@Nezumi-- 3 жыл бұрын
agreed ! i was wondering this too!
@biggysground
@biggysground 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf, some luthiers would make a plaster mold of the top plate then use the mold box as a support while clamping. Some would also move the bass bar away from the F hole. Was not a witness mark left? Restore is different than remodel IMO.. Yes I know the elders played games with F hole spacing and sizes. Thanks for sharing.
@gclfunvdo
@gclfunvdo 3 жыл бұрын
First. Btw love you Olaf!
@trumpetmom8924
@trumpetmom8924 3 жыл бұрын
I know I needn’t be, but I was more anxious while you were removing the timber at the ends of the bass bar than when I watched another trumpet player take a torch to my C trumpet leadpipe so that he could replace it with a different one for me.
@fabiog801
@fabiog801 3 жыл бұрын
Luthierism is the new black
@davidhudson5452
@davidhudson5452 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting To Hear The New Violin
@AmandaViolinGirl
@AmandaViolinGirl 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf is enjoying the violin, bass war just as much as I am.
@samayling9855
@samayling9855 3 жыл бұрын
I just got my new violin on Tuesday!! I have named him Violincent :D
@Kenji1685
@Kenji1685 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos! What determines it's dimensions?
@RobertFay
@RobertFay 9 ай бұрын
*- Olaf, what is the ideal end grain orientation of the wood you choose as the blank you start from?* *- What species of wood is best? Spruce, maple, ash, birch?* *- From horizontal {flat against} and parallel with the top plate, through a 45 degree angle, to a vertical orientation perpendicular to the top plate, what is standard?* *- Could orienting a 45 degree end grain from the center line out toward the ribs produce a "softer" bass tone and the reverse orientation a more "round" tone to the bass?* *- I ask because in my mind's eye, I see the softer/squishier/smushier vascular cambium layers between winter time growth rings being compressed and producing a "bending/bowing" of the "bar" as each sign curve of the base tone wavelengths impact it.* *- I don't know that I understand this correctly, but I am suspicious that grain orientation will result in differing engineering vector loading that will yield differing tonalities.* *- I somehow feel this intuitively, as if the wood is talking to me and telling me what it will do because it can.* *- It is strange that I "hear" the wood telling me about using micro-thin shavings of mountain goat horn, like what used when fabricating a recurve bow for archery the old way, to add in something that only it can do.* *- I think that "something" has to do with electrical or magnetic energy, which the keratin of horn and hoof can transmit or transfer, as something unique and specific that is hidden in vibrating wave forms.* *- Maybe I am some sort of alchemist/shaman mystical luthier and don't even know it...roar with mirthful irreverence here...* *~ ~ ~ ~ ~* *- google(DOT)com/search?q=CALCIUM+CARBONATE+And+HIDE+GLUE+CHEMICAL+INTERACTION* *- cool(DOT)culturalheritage(DOT)org/albumen/library/c20/vonendt1991(DOT)html* *~ ~ ~ ~ ~* *- "What is calcium carbonate used for in glue?* *- "Huber's ground calcium carbonate (GCC) is widely used in adhesives, caulks and sealants applications as a rheology modifier, cost-reducing filler, tensile strength enhancer, toughening agent, opacifier and/or whitening agent."*
@kyproset
@kyproset 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent performance, thank you for showing in such detail. I have one question if I may. You have placed the BB right on the edge of the top circle of the F-hole. On my 1857 Guarneri copy, J.B. Vuillaume violin, the BB is a couple of mm's away from the F-hole. I have been told in Vienna a couple of years ago by a prominent luthier, that it is in the wrong position (or angle) but not to an extent that would require replacement. How does this particular placement 2 mm's away from the F-hole affect the sound? A 41.5mm bridge works best for this violin. Thank you.
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 Жыл бұрын
I am currently building a flat top mandolin with F holes and it is going to have two bars like an arch top guitar. So I guess it will have one base bar and one treble bar.
@rms3062
@rms3062 3 жыл бұрын
Omg Hi Olaf!
@a.g.cleaveland820
@a.g.cleaveland820 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you could talk about a 5 string violin, pros, cons, history, and/or construction differences between it and regular violins?
@gokkuXD
@gokkuXD 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative sir. New subscriber here 😀
@adamriley6190
@adamriley6190 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf, I’m sorry I didn’t comment on a more recent video, but hopefully you see this! I’d love a video of “recovery” I know that after all your years, you don’t make many mistakes, but I would very much appreciate a “what do you do now?” type series for how to correct small mistakes that may happen during the course of repairs
@chumn54
@chumn54 11 ай бұрын
Olaf, Thanks for your expertise and dedication to providing these KZfaq videos. Much appreciated! Could you please let me know where I can get the deep throat clamps you use for your bass bar installations. They seem to be difficult to find. I am a violin maker in the USA and would like to find those little clamps which are much less bulky than what I am using. Thanks very much!
@sadraramezani1711
@sadraramezani1711 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Olaf for your great videos . I just wanted to know your opinion about POWLDEN GUARNERI . My new violin is a copy of it.
@Oleffo
@Oleffo 3 жыл бұрын
noice
@jding6266
@jding6266 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you. Did you ever experiment with the bassbar like other wood, making it higher, longer etc etc?
@shelbyfries8304
@shelbyfries8304 3 жыл бұрын
🙂
@davestambaugh7282
@davestambaugh7282 Жыл бұрын
All instruments that have more than one string have a tonal range going one direction is base and the other direction is treble.
@philiplabrie3822
@philiplabrie3822 3 жыл бұрын
Olaf I have seen an old violin with the bass bar carved out of the top plate so it is all one piece any comments on how that would sound. It was an old American fiddle from the wild west era and they had put a rattlesnake rattle in side to add a different affect
@bohuslavpavlyshynets
@bohuslavpavlyshynets 3 жыл бұрын
Teach me make the bridge. You were talking about how it works, but you did not show us how to make it. I have no luthier around so a few days ago I bought a new bridge and cut it myself, by some manuals. It is almost perfect, only it is lower on the G-string side than it should be and slightly too thin at the top. In any way it works for me, but I want to try it one more time in a near future to get better sound of my violin experimenting with bridge. My father is a craftsman, so I have all needed equipment to make measures and curve the bridge. Only make the video, please.
@Thecyclingeconomicsdoc
@Thecyclingeconomicsdoc 3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting... Or should I say... eeeenteresting! SLAP like now! Practice 40 hours! E-pick-O!
@delll372
@delll372 3 жыл бұрын
i love the dog meme 😂 olaf is stepping up the editing!
@mosaiques23
@mosaiques23 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank for sharing! I hope you see this question and feel like answering it. I would like to know if you glue the Bass-Bar to the top-plate with tension. I would think that, in that case, the Bass-Bar should not fit perfectly, but it would need to have very minimal gaps at the ends so that later, when clamping it and gluing it, it creates tension. Is that correct?
@mayawitters
@mayawitters 3 жыл бұрын
How come you have to cut the bass bar to length after it’s been attached to the top plate? Seems like a lot of chance to damage the top plate that way - why isn’t it possible to cut it to length before and then attach it?
@michaelgall5276
@michaelgall5276 3 жыл бұрын
Mayasounds I was wondering the same thing?
@TheHeloGaby
@TheHeloGaby 3 жыл бұрын
I think it would be hard to glue the bass bar to the exact perfect location... whilst this way you can cut to the lenght needed, so there is less to worry about when glueing.
@Kimoto504
@Kimoto504 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it's because the final shape, particularly the ends, would be difficult to do without damaging the final part. The wood may splinter. Also, when planing (shaping with a plane) the final shape, he has to apply some pressure and having the part attached to the top plate supports and steadies it. This guards against his bending/breaking/twisting it.
@MericaBack2backWWChampions
@MericaBack2backWWChampions 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn't make much sense to me on the construction of violins as the base of the bridge spreads out the pounds per square inch across the base evenly. FTW I'm converting one to left handed lol. Great video!
@julietabarres4685
@julietabarres4685 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Olaf! Is there a reason for making a longer bass bar and then cutting the edge instead of starting with a shorter bar? Loved the video.
@francoisvillon1300
@francoisvillon1300 Жыл бұрын
А мы называем это пружиной. Кстати, было бы интетесно как звучат инструменты с пружиной vs. без нее; с душкой - без нее.
@Kardis
@Kardis 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Olaf. Thanks for the cool video. I have a strange question about how you clamped the bass bar onto the top plate while the glue was drying. When building PCs, we have to mount the CPU to the motherboard using screws. It's very important when doing this to do it in a way that evenly distributes the tension on the CPU so that you don't break the CPU die. Usually, this means doing it in a kind of crisscross pattern (top-left first, then bottom right, then top right, then bottom left, for example). When you put your clamps on the bass bar, I noticed that you started in the middle, then did two on the left (well, our left, your right), then two on the right (your left), then some more on each side. Did you do it that way to avoid putting too much tension on one side of the top plate, or is the top plate sturdy enough that you don't have to worry about that very much? Thanks again for the video, it's so interesting to see how things get fixed. :)
@ScottRedstone
@ScottRedstone 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. The glue seems like magic. Do you know when and how it was developed?
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure... all I know is that they found it on Egyptian papyrus literally 5000 years ago
@KyleSiefring
@KyleSiefring 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Are there certain properties that make a glue particular valuable for this type of work (apart from the replacability that you mentioned)? Do some glues not properly transfer vibrations between pieces?
@303Yosh
@303Yosh 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful work as always! I'm curious as to the purpose for initially making the bar that length and gluing the ends when they're going to be removed later?
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker
@AskOlaftheViolinmaker 4 ай бұрын
Sometimes the very ends get slightly rounded while fitting, to get around that I fit the bass bar while it's slightly longer. This way the ends fit 100%
@303Yosh
@303Yosh 4 ай бұрын
@@AskOlaftheViolinmaker Makes sense! Thank you so much for replying 🙂
@janeinnoho1
@janeinnoho1 2 жыл бұрын
great presentation! My question; if a violin has too much bass response, (echo, hollow sounding) can a new bass bar help correct this?
@mellissadalby1402
@mellissadalby1402 2 ай бұрын
What kind of wood do you use for a BAss Bar? Spruce or something harder? You really do great work. I really anjoy watching these.
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