A Beaut Rip-Off! Pagani Design "Aquaracer" 43mm Automatic Watch Review (PD-1617) - Perth WAtch

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Perth WAtch

Perth WAtch

6 жыл бұрын

Review of this rather nice budget homage of the Tag Heuer Aquaracer, featuring Seagull ST6D movement!
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@TheGoodwolfe
@TheGoodwolfe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very thorough, well done review! I really like this watch save one thing, the 30m WR!! I really like the Sea-gull movement that hacks and hand winds, the looks, the size, decent finish quality, not bothered by the 90-click bezel as obviously no one is going to dive with it. But, having a versatile sports watch, even as a beater, it'd be nice to have at least 50m of WR, and without it, gives me pause. Keep up the great work!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that mate - good thoughts and I appreciate the positive feedback! Cheers, Ivan :)
@gregwalker4236
@gregwalker4236 6 жыл бұрын
thanks again, always enjoy your reviews! i summoned the courage to use pay pal and must say my earlier concerns i shared with you proved worry-free (alpha purchase). this one (pagani) caught me by surprise--will try to acquire...
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update Greg... well I hope the next purchase works out fine and you won't have to resort to buyer protection :)
@JasonTheWatchGuy
@JasonTheWatchGuy 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Pagani Design watches, they're good quality for the price and each of them I've reviewed I've enjoyed.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed, they’ve improved with many of their iterations.
@johnny4blues
@johnny4blues 5 жыл бұрын
Very good review, sir. Enjoyed it very much!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you - really appreciate the positive feedback :)
@24hourstime
@24hourstime 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video! If it's actually Seagull ST6 moment - that's great value for money proposition. All the best, Oleg.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - it does look like it may be a genuine Seagull!
@YummehPyroFlakes
@YummehPyroFlakes 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch There is a new version from "Bersigar" with Seiko NH36, second stop, manual winding and day-date for around 100€. It's even better. The case is better finished in that one as well.
@oomsueb3918
@oomsueb3918 4 жыл бұрын
Powered by Seagull Automatic movement?
@adamergin956
@adamergin956 4 жыл бұрын
@@YummehPyroFlakes thanks for that very useful bit of information! I've just checked out the Bersigar version, indeed, sapphire crystal instead of Hardlex (major difference there in shine and light bounce pop), and Seiko NH36! Thanks for that note. Only downside for me, I'm not a fan of the Bersigar name nor insignia, given the choice I prefer PD in both respects. However, you can't argue with the upgrade in terms of movement and glass, which are both very significant.
@YummehPyroFlakes
@YummehPyroFlakes 4 жыл бұрын
@@adamergin956 I've got the Bersigar in february this year and it just won't leave my wrist. It's so comfy even when it's so heavy. Movement is great, not a single scratch on the glass or the ceramic bezel.. Can't complain for around 100€. You can even grab it on sale for 89 regularly.
@raymondmartinez79
@raymondmartinez79 5 жыл бұрын
I bought this same one and it arrived today. What a beautiful watch. It feels like mid to high end for sure.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that - glad you are enjoying it :)
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
The Seagull St6 is a bit basic with no decoration but is pretty reliable,accurate and cheap. They last and last without service so a good choice. A good looking watch copied really well.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thoughts as always Neil!
@dr.omar.insights2000
@dr.omar.insights2000 6 жыл бұрын
I have limited experience in watches but I learned that it is not enough to have a reliable movement bur equally important is to have high quality everything else. Unreputable brands may have silly malfunction including screw down crown that does not have smooth action. Bazel that may detach and pop out if you force it in opposite direction. ..etc.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - those are good points. So far so good for this particular watch, I can say :)
@ejames6431
@ejames6431 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the review very much.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that
@logotrikes
@logotrikes 5 жыл бұрын
Bought one of these based on the video. What a fantastic watch. Superbly made, cant see how the Tag would be any better with regard to fit and finish. Of course with the Tag, you're paying for the name and the quality of the movement etc. In my case bezel rotates very nicely. Two links removed easily and I dont know its on my wrist even though it has good weight. The strap is the best I've come across for a copy/fake/homage watch, even better than my sons genuine Tag which has a lot of play in the links Stainless steel is stainless steel generally, and I would expect a Tag to be at least 316. I suspect this Pagani is 316 also. In Oz the Aquaracer retails for around $AUD2000, so my $AUD80 is a bit of a bargain.... We know it's not a Tag, but I'm very happy to wear it...
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that... glad you are enjoying it. I have had the Aquaracer in hand and I would say it's definitely superior fit, finish, bezel feel, bracelet and not mention superior materials, but you would of course expect all that with the price... to not have it would be a real shame on Tag I reckon. Not all steel is the same either... many lower end Chinese watches use a somewhat lower grade of steel than 316 it seems. Cheers, Ivan.
@CM-xd7pn
@CM-xd7pn 4 жыл бұрын
How's it working
@casualsuede
@casualsuede 6 жыл бұрын
The funniest thing you said was "no diver's extension" on a watch that has a 3atm rating.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha good point, that is definitely the funniest part of this video!
@timford3599
@timford3599 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying the bezel action at 90 clicks (who thought that was a good way to go?) It is the same as the PD 1639. I have seen examples of the 1639 that incorporated the Seiko NH35 movement, too bad that it isn't available for the PD 1617. Subscribed and liked. Thanks for a nice review. PS. I do like the green variant better.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that man, yeah it’s still a puzzle to me why some brands would put in a 90 click bezel!
@TheSpritz0
@TheSpritz0 6 жыл бұрын
Looks EXACTLY like the Tag!!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Haha it does say "Pagani Design", but otherwise yeah it's very very close!
@52dislikes
@52dislikes Ай бұрын
Mine arrived running slow. I put it through the demagnetizer, and it is now very accurate.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch Ай бұрын
Sounds like a good thing to do!
@samuelball8775
@samuelball8775 6 жыл бұрын
Good review Ivan. I thought the same about the bracelet - a bit kind of sharp along the edges. I have ordered a silicone strap to try with it when its back 👍 Overall i can accept the bezel action given the price and i never really time anything so as long as i line it up to 12 its good. Cheers.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam! For $70 I definitely can forgive some shortcomings... the interesting head to head will be against a $70 Invicta - coming soon! :)
@samuelball8775
@samuelball8775 6 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch Nice. I would think the Invicta will win.. But be gd to check it out.
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@samuelball8775 dude, the pagani has a ceramic bezel
@samuelball8775
@samuelball8775 5 жыл бұрын
@@W0pper1997 im not certain it was ceramic mate. It might have been some type of acrylic. Either way it wasn't going to scratch like aluminium. It might have been ceramic... I just have a hard time believing the specs on the Chinese special watches haha. Overall it was something a bit different for not too much money 👍
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@samuelball8775 a german youtuber who has his own watch brand, tested it. It is ceramic haha
@KLURLS
@KLURLS 3 жыл бұрын
glad I waited, pagani upgraded this same watch with sapphire (PD-1668)... now it's worth buying
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@kepsgbbe
@kepsgbbe 5 жыл бұрын
nice video, cant afford a aquaracer will order one of this
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - I'm sure you will enjoy it :)
@roydavies9001
@roydavies9001 6 жыл бұрын
Great Review. Just arrived and I needed to go thru your vid to remind myself about the pros and cons. Bezel is too loose, cyclops is off center and Steel bracelet is sharp on the edges (check, check and check) other than that... a pretty nice copy of the Tag Aquaracer. I put it on an EACHE 22mm Oiled Leather Strap. Cheers!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - glad the video helped, and good to know your piece ticked the boxes on all the issues :)
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess
@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 6 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna wear this watch while driving my Pagani ;)
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
One might say that's a match made in heaven ;)
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid 4 жыл бұрын
As you should!!!
@dude28405
@dude28405 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@soneeeee4440
@soneeeee4440 5 жыл бұрын
Have we confirmed one can swim with it. Anyone have water infiltration problems swimming? Any actually gaskets and seals on crown case back? thx
@encoderaudio
@encoderaudio 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this! I’ll order one for sure, your reviews are the most honest in KZfaq, if you think it is not bad, then it is enough for me ;)
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks - very kind of you! It's got its weak points but if you don't mind the copied design, for $70 it's a pretty good package!
@omoniyikaye
@omoniyikaye 3 ай бұрын
MY FIRST PAGANI. I BOUGHT THIS BACK IN 2018. THE ONLY NEGATIVE THE BRACELETS FELL APART I HAD TO CHANGE THE STRAPS TO BLUE RUBBER BAND FROM CHAINS. THE WATCH IS STILL ACCURATE IN TIMING.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 ай бұрын
THAT’S GREAT, THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE
@bauertime
@bauertime 4 жыл бұрын
The lume may not last long, but it looks awesome while it does. I love mine and the matching quartz chrono with the Seiko vd57 movement.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing those thoughts - glad you’re enjoying it :)
@bauertime
@bauertime 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I think I was wrong, it should be the VK67 movement in the chrono.
@gordogabor
@gordogabor 5 жыл бұрын
What do u think about the quality it is worth to buy or a low production from China again? And can u tell me about the accuracy
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Quality for $70 is ok, definitely not the worse you can find and the case here is solid and waterproof. I cannot remember accuracy, please watch video to find out ;)
@alexjones9941
@alexjones9941 4 жыл бұрын
Would be great if you reviewed the pagani rolex sea dweller homage. Thanks
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Cool - what's the model number of that?
@MrKeys57
@MrKeys57 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for nice review! - i have ben offered a similar model, but two-tone, also automatic, but the seller says it is a Seiko NH35 in it, and sapphire crystal glass, greetings Levi in sweden
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting proposition!
@derekhicks8250
@derekhicks8250 6 жыл бұрын
I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but I like it! Shame about the bezel, and although I've never been a huge Tag fan, it's a nice looking watch. I haven't had a seagull movement, what's your experience? Thanks again.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for that Derek - your secret will stay safe with me. And the 6000 subs :). I have a couple of Ingersoll with Seagull movements and they've worked very well, certainly by reports do well. Seagull is probably the best movement maker coming out of China and their reputation is well deserved. Cheers, Ivan.
@locobenno9435
@locobenno9435 4 жыл бұрын
+Derek Hicks the Seagull movements are fine so far as I'm concerned, especially for the price. I have a couple of watches with Seagulls and have no complaints, but moreover the Seagulls have their own significant history
@Tourtiere34
@Tourtiere34 6 жыл бұрын
It looks well executed from the video; very good looking. It does bring up the question of what qualifies as a homage and what is an actual copy. Is it a copy only when the original brand name is slapped on dial? Or are we just using homage as a nice word to say a copy? Or perhaps intellectual property infringement is simply where the line is.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Good points raised there Daniel! I think IP infringement is a complex thing and what a court decides one day might be different from the next. For me, I would say something is only definitely a copy when it's trying to pass off for something that it's not... in that way I equate copy to knock off. Others would say that something is a copy when a certain proportion of design elements have been emulated - granted this one has a rather high proportion! People obviously do differ on what makes a copy vs homage.
@nicholasjoseph9062
@nicholasjoseph9062 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Fortin I usually have 3 classes. Homages are inspired, copies are lookalike but with different brands and replicas uses the same brand as the one being replicated. Homages are okay, copies depending, and replicas are a no go. For me at least.
@nicholasjoseph9062
@nicholasjoseph9062 6 жыл бұрын
It's much better than a Tevise T801a. But I bought the Tevise T801a as a beater watch.
@arisignatiadis2315
@arisignatiadis2315 5 жыл бұрын
My opinion it is an homage because it looks like a tag but has some things changed like the extentions are at 40 and 50 minutes on tag there are at 45 and 55 for example and the band looks like it but the clasp is different. Personaly I am impressed
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 5 жыл бұрын
If the brand is falsified the correct term is counterfeit. If not there are various words to use.
@edmund8954
@edmund8954 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if they updated this to 100 meters. looks beautiful.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but their newer models are definitely better
@space.cowboyyyyy
@space.cowboyyyyy 4 жыл бұрын
Love this watch, so nice!!!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a pretty good looker :)
@vivekpanchmatiya8531
@vivekpanchmatiya8531 4 жыл бұрын
which one is better this one or the pagani watch submariner if u wuld adviced to buy.?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I haven’t seen the Pagani Submariner so I can’t properly advise on this...
@andreaiacolina
@andreaiacolina 3 жыл бұрын
Does the bracelet taper or not?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Dunno, does it looks like it?
@dude28405
@dude28405 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this model on AliExpress I wasn't able to find it perhaps are they not making it anymore
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
I think you may be right... I got this quite a while ago now
@Jonatansimon
@Jonatansimon 6 жыл бұрын
got one, love it
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Good to hear mate :)
@MaselEistee
@MaselEistee 3 жыл бұрын
Still love it :p?
@Jonatansimon
@Jonatansimon 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaselEistee yeah, still running great
@rawmobilegamer1833
@rawmobilegamer1833 4 жыл бұрын
Hello sir,its over a year after unboxing video,does the watch still working?please share your thought😄
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Hello there - as I mentioned in the review, this isn't my watch, it was borrowed ;)
@sebastian5132
@sebastian5132 5 жыл бұрын
Good review, Is case material 316L stainless steel ?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks - yes IIRC that's what they claim it to be...
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
It even has a ceramic bezel
@Getouttahere78
@Getouttahere78 4 жыл бұрын
I cannot fathom why people have such an aversion to homage watches. To me it's beautiful, so I will buy one , and it is also great value. Branding does not draw me.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s because there is a fine line between homage (say like Undone chronographs) and near 100% copies, such as some Pagani designs. Say someone designs a watch from scratch, making it original. Another person makes a watch that is pretty much a to the millimetre copy, slaps on a different name, and calls it “homage”. The first guy rightfully would not be very happy - I think that’s the problem some people have against watches like this one.
@Sergey16068
@Sergey16068 3 жыл бұрын
Green or blue? What is better??
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Neither and both - the “better” one is the one you prefer :)
@kellypaws
@kellypaws 4 жыл бұрын
So, do they get it down to the same quality as the original?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@schoolofmediocrity2801
@schoolofmediocrity2801 5 жыл бұрын
What's with all these 90 click bezels? I know it's petty, but I just can't do 90 clicks... it just doesn't make sense to me.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed, if anything cutting it to 60 clicks would be preferred I reckon. Overall it seems most likely a cost cutting measure...
@alexsdg3441
@alexsdg3441 4 жыл бұрын
hi ivan, how are you, mate? i just ran across this review about a year and a half ago. Pagani design, copy of Tag. I watch it just to compare the new one you just reviewed. Hulk Rolex homage. it seems like they have made a lot of improvements. the bezel action is much better now, way better. the cyclops magnification was improved from 1.5 to 2.5. better bracelet and clasp, specially clasp. Specially, I am impressed that they are now using NH35 rather than some suspicious seagull copy movements. about two years ago, Pagani was behind of Parnis and even corgeut, but I think that they now make better watches.... thanks Ivan.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, totally agree... they have definitely stepped up their game since this particular watch. If I still had this one I might be inclined to do a comparison video actually!
@alexsdg3441
@alexsdg3441 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch yes, please do the comparison. that would be beneficial for a lot of viewers. thanks
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to but will need to try to get my hands on the old model again...
@alexsdg3441
@alexsdg3441 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch if one of your subscribers can send one to you, that would be ideal. but if not, still you have the old video review that you can split the screen to compare with your new model. personally, I do not know how to do it, but I have seen that in the video youtube. probably you already know how to do it anyway. thanks for your prompt reply and have a great day in Perth.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea! I’ll give it some thought.
@timeintheuk
@timeintheuk 4 жыл бұрын
Have one in green blue looks good tho I don’t think they currently do a Pepsi
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s right, I don’t think they do that (and neither do TAG)
@timeintheuk
@timeintheuk 4 жыл бұрын
Tag do a Pepsi gmt
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but not an Aquaracer model I believe?
@tranwatches5416
@tranwatches5416 5 жыл бұрын
Is this got the ceramic bezel?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
No, I don't think so...
@wilfreb
@wilfreb 6 жыл бұрын
I love the 43mm Aquaracer
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
The styling is growing on me... I didn't like it at first when they changed the dial and hands...
@jimmerten2342
@jimmerten2342 3 жыл бұрын
I have that watch 1617 . At 8 months the second hand would stop every 10 to 60 seconds. It would start again with a tap. I would send it back but don't know where I bought it. Any one out there know had the same problem?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Why don’t you know where you bought it? If you like it and want to keep it, a good watchmaker can sort out the problem for you.
@MrGeoffrey1998
@MrGeoffrey1998 6 жыл бұрын
I just put it in cold water to destroy it because i didn't like it but it still continues to work with no problem, i thought it would be good for people to know. I think i'll keep it ans use it under shower, while diving and swimming until it dies
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
It's a surprisingly tough little nut isn't it? A thought - you could flip it if you really don't want it, I suspect you'd get a fair amount back!
@ramonalbertotamayoisla2592
@ramonalbertotamayoisla2592 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thank u for posting.....
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Most welcome - thanks for watching! :)
@fl1431
@fl1431 4 жыл бұрын
I got my green one today and i swapped it with army green silicone strap immediately. The metal strap quality is not that good. Other than that, it is a decent homage watch. Quite sturdy and heavy. I like it a lot. It is 100m WR though.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Nice. Good thing that 100m is 50m more than most people need :)
@TopSecretVid
@TopSecretVid 4 жыл бұрын
If the bezel action was a bit tighter..but even still $70 use it as a beater..
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly how I would view it, a good looker that you can wear and not be afraid to bang up :)
@woodyamsterdam
@woodyamsterdam 6 жыл бұрын
I'm wearing this timepiece while watching the video. It's a really appealing watch but unfortunately mine keeps time very erratically. It can run very decent for a day or two and suddenly, within an hour or so, it gains 7 minutes... Considering the price (52 euros) it's not worth to bring it to a watchmaker.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that - I think the design and finish is pretty darn good for the price. A pity about the movement on yours though - I would be inclined to try to regulate it myself in this case.
@neilpiper9889
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it's been dropped
@Seadweller451D
@Seadweller451D 4 жыл бұрын
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Gastro-stop is your new best friend ;)
@RekoneInkings
@RekoneInkings 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how things have changed in 2022 on these homages: - 120 clicks ceramic bezels - all stainless steel - nh35/miyota movement The value for money now is far better
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing!!
@michaelgranger7872
@michaelgranger7872 4 жыл бұрын
Ist top !! Ich habe die in schwarz , ich liebe sie!!!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
What?
@ferdinandhansen4822
@ferdinandhansen4822 5 жыл бұрын
please tell me how to buy this watch :(
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Sure... have you tried the links I provided?
@markfinc8656
@markfinc8656 5 жыл бұрын
What is the lug to lug width on this watch?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the lug to lug length? As I mentioned at 3:17 it's 50mm.
@markfinc8656
@markfinc8656 5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Perfect. Thanks for the info.
@thomasont
@thomasont 6 жыл бұрын
I briefly held a 'Pagani's' take on AP's Royal Oak. Though certainly looked nice with the famous heft that Royal Oak is famed for, looks are deceiving which is almost too good to be true with incoherencies. Its a double edge whereby on one side, relatively cheap priced watch for decent amount of quality materials used with a tank built like movement yet with poor fitting and mediocre workmanship. Eg. Case Lugs are thicker than the supposedly integrated bracelet links and misaligned lack lustered dial with markers. In short, valuable materials in lesser product value.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks for sharing that - in many ways similar to this watch it seems then! Still sounds like pretty good value all things considered...
@thomasont
@thomasont 6 жыл бұрын
Anytime Perth WAtch ! Yes indeed ! Haha !
@sangesherpa4832
@sangesherpa4832 Жыл бұрын
Recently bought this watch. Mine says 100m water resistant but yours 30mm 🤔
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch Жыл бұрын
How curious, that’s the magic of Pagani :)
@bartonez123
@bartonez123 6 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that I own a real aquaracer and I kind of want this?....
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I think that's fine - I have a Seamaster 300M and would like a good homage of it! :)
@ajovev
@ajovev 4 жыл бұрын
@Cool Crush Ice Killa Shenhua are one of the worst cheapest Chinese watches. I have one, skeleton and it stops randomly. It was services by a watchmaker and again stops randomly, even without wearing, sitting on the table.
@anishabisht4213
@anishabisht4213 4 жыл бұрын
uhh seagal st6 is better than seiko nh35?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
No, I don't think many would say that...
@jnturner7828
@jnturner7828 3 жыл бұрын
One thing you didn’t say: how accurate is the timekeeping - how many minutes lost/gained in a week?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I wasn't doing that regularly back then...
@afmr8762
@afmr8762 3 жыл бұрын
The glass with sapphire crystal?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
What?
@afmr8762
@afmr8762 3 жыл бұрын
What material the glass?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
This one very long ago, can’t remember. Did you watch video to check?
@user-do8lg8ww6r
@user-do8lg8ww6r 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. But don't Pagani have any waterproof skills?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Not sure mate... maybe try looking at their AliExpress listings?
@user-do8lg8ww6r
@user-do8lg8ww6r 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch sure thanks buddy :)
@dude28405
@dude28405 4 жыл бұрын
They've definitely ripped off the tag on this one. I have 2 pagani design watches they are a decent for the money. I don't know if I will go for th his one
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely.
@crobro6380
@crobro6380 2 жыл бұрын
What are the dimensions?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t remember - did you watch video?
@Gary-vx7gp
@Gary-vx7gp 6 жыл бұрын
You can also get a green version
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - good to know! :)
@torbensvensson2093
@torbensvensson2093 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ivan, If you compare this watch with the Tevise T801a, which one do you prefer??🙈 The seagull movement, is it any good?? Thanks, again for a great review!!👌🏻 I’ve been looking forward to this Pagani Design!!😉
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Torben! This is 3x the price of the Tevise and I think no question at all it's a better product, in all categories too. Seagull is probably one of the most reputable movement makers coming out of China, and this would be better than the Tongji in the Tevise.
@bartonez123
@bartonez123 6 жыл бұрын
Tevise is rubbish. I had the same watch rebranded to some other random mushroom brand (same movement, case, bezel... same everything aside from logo) and it was properly clunky. A purchase I regret.
@True-os6tg
@True-os6tg 5 жыл бұрын
@@bartonez123 I doubt if was the same ,what is the make ?
@bartonez123
@bartonez123 5 жыл бұрын
@@True-os6tg I can't remember the make (Dun? It was some nonsense name) but after comparison on the watchuseek forums, it was indeed the same watch with a slightly modified dial. A lot of these cheap Chinese watches use the exact same materials (a lot of the mushroom brands share factories), particularly if they sit in the same price point, and sometimes the differences are merely a different combination of parts, or straight up the same parts with a different dial. Occasionally you'll see something pop up with something a bit more expensive inside it, but they are more the exception than the rule.
@True-os6tg
@True-os6tg 5 жыл бұрын
@@bartonez123 I would nt be too sure about that watch being the same Be nice if you had any details at all but never mind .All Tevise watches come with a 45 day return policy if you had bought one you 'd ve been fine , As long as you realize these watches are hand winders with just a little help from auto they are great value for the price of a pizza .I dont regret buying mine at all .Best mechanical watch for $20 easily tho you get what you pay for and if you spend another $50 you can get an homage with sapphire ,,miyota movement proper water resistance etc for sure ,
@leviSyosef
@leviSyosef 4 жыл бұрын
Can you swim with it? And how it works after 1 year ?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Not supposed to swim with 30m rated watch, but I suspect this one will do ok because of screw down case back and crown. Like I said in video, this was not my watch.
@fl1431
@fl1431 4 жыл бұрын
in 2020, this model is 100m WR, so you can swim with it, just make sure the crown is screwed down tied.
@harishthapalovecycling4356
@harishthapalovecycling4356 6 жыл бұрын
Hi brother ! It's me quartz guy resently I brought akribos xxiv ak663ssb watch its looks good and feel good, it's this watch good or bad
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Are you asking me whether the Akribos or this Pagani Design is good or bad?
@harishthapalovecycling4356
@harishthapalovecycling4356 6 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch sorry brother I mean akribos xxiv watch
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell if it's good from pictures but if it feels good and is solid waterproof, then for $140 it's fair enough, assuming it's got a good Seiko chronograph movement in it, or equivalent.
@harishthapalovecycling4356
@harishthapalovecycling4356 6 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch thank brother you made my day, coz I have two akribos xxiv,two casio duro mdv, casio tough solar and orient quartz diver all watches are good and I love them
@robijames8726
@robijames8726 5 жыл бұрын
Pagani Design Sport - Unboxing - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZ6Alsdll7W9pHk.html
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid Robi - all the best :)
@robijames8726
@robijames8726 5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Thank you watch is beautiful
@thetintopirate6861
@thetintopirate6861 4 жыл бұрын
You got the wrong one! Should have got the Sub Homage as its super!!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
What an odd comment... 1. That watch didn’t exist when I made this video 2. I do have the the Sub homage and have made multiple videos with it ;)
@drzaius844
@drzaius844 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they’d used this textured dial on their Faux-mega.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Which model are you referring to?
@JT-sv8il
@JT-sv8il 6 жыл бұрын
I love the Zonda better
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
So I do! Gonna have to mortgage my house though. And take equity from my investment property. And top up with a personal loan :)
@robski907
@robski907 6 жыл бұрын
Paganiwatch online, weird I can't see this watch I presume they are to different makers.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that - pretty sure that's just another reseller though.
@True-os6tg
@True-os6tg 5 жыл бұрын
Not many people would know the Aquaracer ,even watch buffs avoid Tag but it's a fave of mine and this looks like great value ,ps not sure what some people expect for a £50 automatic going buy some comments ,made me chuckle .
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Tag seems to get top billing in some of the big grey retailers online not to mention some of the bigger jewellery chains here in oz. Haha yeah I think some were expecting sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, a hi-beat movement, and dive capability in this homage :)
@timur7381
@timur7381 5 жыл бұрын
A bit of a bummer that bezel is so loose! Otherwise seems like a solid homage :)
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a bad piece at all actually, Pagani out out some very decent stuff for the low Sub $100 price points.
@timur7381
@timur7381 5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch yeah at this price can't expect rock solid construction I guess. Thanks for doing the gearbest reviews! Always interesting what jems you can find there :)
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Most welcome bro :)
@radu197666
@radu197666 4 жыл бұрын
And that it's only 30m WR ... and because it doesn't have a sapphire glass ... and no ceramic bezel. The PD1639 is better from that perspective.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting... which aspect of the PD 1639 model do you think is better?
@nicholasjoseph9062
@nicholasjoseph9062 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on the Corgeut Black Bay homage/ copy? I've bought one (still waiting for it to come) and it uses a Miyota movement and has sapphire crystal.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Already did it - do a search through my channel videos and you'll see it :)
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 3 жыл бұрын
Pagani Design be putting in that work to make affordable and fabulous Time Pieces who could have a problem with that , I don't know who but I'm sure somebody does. Fabulous Watch by Pagani Design.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
The thing that people have problem about is that they have put zero work into design but have completely copied this. That’s why some people will never touch such homage watches.
@powerplay4real174
@powerplay4real174 3 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Yup ! and they unfortunate miss out , Good review as usual & Thanks for the real deal Info.
@gtrman9706
@gtrman9706 6 жыл бұрын
Micro adjustment on the bezel? 😂😂
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I'm getting more demanding in my old age - bezels SHOULD have micro adjustment dammit! :D
@InGratitudeIam
@InGratitudeIam 4 жыл бұрын
Bezel, bracelet, both begin with the letter, "B" and the only adjustment necessary is how much Scotch it will take for you to not notice
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Takes none for me to overlook that ;)
@pmarinmarin4333
@pmarinmarin4333 3 жыл бұрын
I wait for two months the watch and when arrive the crown broken its a beautiful watch but the quality is prety bad
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Thank God for PayPal :)
@varde23
@varde23 6 ай бұрын
i got one... the automatic runs for almost 48h
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 ай бұрын
You think it runs better than the specs stipulate? Ok mate…
@varde23
@varde23 6 ай бұрын
I’m just telling mate how long my runs. Checked.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 ай бұрын
Amazingly incredulous!
@varde23
@varde23 6 ай бұрын
@@PerthWAtch well....not trying to proof anything!!!just saying how works with mine.if you get one of those let me know how worked for you!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 ай бұрын
Never runs more than 40 hours… that would be beyond spec, which is pretty much unheard of
@speedtracker100
@speedtracker100 4 жыл бұрын
It is a very nice watch....🤪🤪🤪
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment :)
@jorgemonray2145
@jorgemonray2145 4 жыл бұрын
mine gets delayed every day 10 min, rubbish. too bad, it is very beautiful
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Should be able to get it regulated to much better performance than that.
@issachunt3418
@issachunt3418 6 жыл бұрын
30 meters water resistant on a dive watch??? No sale
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes that would be strange indeed. This ain't a dive watch ;)
@PawsleyDirt
@PawsleyDirt 5 жыл бұрын
When was the last time you went diving at 30m depths with your wristwatch?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
For me, it was quite a few years ago now. Why do you ask?
@PawsleyDirt
@PawsleyDirt 5 жыл бұрын
'cause... real dive watches/computers. And well, trying to be smart is all.
@Ilestun
@Ilestun 4 жыл бұрын
99.9% of people buying aquaracer or seamaster are not diving, just like 99.9% of people buying pilot watches are not actual pilots.
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that this watch has a ceramic bezel whereas the original doesn't O_o
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Original meaning the Tag Heuer Aquaracer? FYI they do have ceramic bezels.
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I am very sure that they don't. Thats why they usually sell u two bezels if you buy the GMT Pepsi
@W0pper1997
@W0pper1997 5 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch I just looked it up. The GMT models have aluminium bezels
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the ONLY Aquaracer GMT model is the Pepsi one - there is no other Aquaracer GMT in the current lineup. The typical Aquaracer (including the one which this Pagani copies) are the 3 hand Cal. 5 models, in which the colored bezels are ceramic. Look it up again ;)
@gregburville3368
@gregburville3368 6 жыл бұрын
Is it my eyes, or is the cyclops totally misaligned? 90 click bezel? That has to be a first. Save up for an extra week and buy an SKX.
@samuelball8775
@samuelball8775 6 жыл бұрын
Greg Burville not really about buying an SKX. Its about mixing it up and wearing something different for a day or two without spending heaps 👍 no doubt the SKX is the better made piece.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Well spotted, the cyclops is too far to the right - I forgot to mention that! I've reviewed watches with 90 click bezels (Spinnaker for one) and of note is the more expensive Glycine Combat Sub had a 60 click bezel too!
@True-os6tg
@True-os6tg 5 жыл бұрын
Its not a dive watch but it is a quarter of the price of skx with hacking and hand winding .I've got a couple of good dive watches like most of us so might get this cheeky homage .It's never a question of one or the other with watches esp when dif types at very dif price points ,
@waktosha7378
@waktosha7378 6 жыл бұрын
I must reluctantly confess I actually like this watch! I was able to buy some Orient Mako 2 and Ray 2 watches for $130 a piece new on sale that are way better watches! If I didn't have over 40 watches and wanted a cool looking diver style watch for the $70 mark, I would buy one as a beater.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that! Wow $130 is a great price for those watches, good pickup!
@waktosha7378
@waktosha7378 6 жыл бұрын
Perth WAtch Thanks. PassTheWatch had them on sale. They probably will again.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
I will have to keep a lookout! :)
@tongue37de
@tongue37de 3 жыл бұрын
Nice watch - but a 3 atm rating is a NO-GO !
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Many Chinese watches are 30m rated...
@tongue37de
@tongue37de 3 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch Yes I know that. But even for a dress-watch I would prefer 5 atm - better 10 atm. I wouldn´t buy 3 atm watches at all but that´s only my preference.
@yourydavydov5680
@yourydavydov5680 3 жыл бұрын
I got green one.. all hood but movement is late -12-15 sex a day which is not good ... other stuff is extremely good
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 3 жыл бұрын
Most would say that 12-15 sex a day is astounding!
@h2300
@h2300 4 жыл бұрын
1:47 you're welcome
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Ok. Sure mate ;)
@watchman76
@watchman76 4 жыл бұрын
wow !!
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
You like?
@eddiethecounsel
@eddiethecounsel 6 жыл бұрын
The brand says Pagani DESIGN. The question is: which part of the watch was DESIGNED by Pagani?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Um... the bracelet clasp? :)
@christianangeles4901
@christianangeles4901 6 жыл бұрын
Thier Logo. 😁
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Actually the case back also! :)
@jeffreypetchharrison4363
@jeffreypetchharrison4363 4 жыл бұрын
automatic 17 jewles needs to be 21 at least, this one will devlope the noisey rotor problem and run like shit .. you can get a swiss 50s watch that will out last this dog of a watch ..jeff..
@violinmke
@violinmke 4 жыл бұрын
30m... Its the Aquapuddle.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Puddle-racer? ;)
@Inaworldoflove
@Inaworldoflove 5 жыл бұрын
whats the use of buying a replica if they can't even replicate the brand name?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
This is a "homage", not a replica. There are replicas too for those want that ;)
@nutgobbler8538
@nutgobbler8538 5 жыл бұрын
Your saying it's 43mm. Pagani says it's 45mm. Who is right here?
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Me. Definitely me :)
@yttean98
@yttean98 4 жыл бұрын
Really you should not be too picky on a watch that costs less than US$75. For that price I look at 2 main things, the look and finishing of the watch itself, the look of this model is quite a decent one and the accuracy, you don't even mention it, another channel "Just One more Watch" makes the effort of measuring some of the watches that cost less than US$55. Good Quality Clasp/metal wrist band costs more money(*) don't pick on watches that cost less than US$150-$200. If you review Seiko 62 Mas Chinese homage that costs more than US$250 then you can pick. * some reasonable good quality ones already cost more than US$50.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching - this is a rather old video and I currently quote the accuracy on every mechanical I review. Some channels evolve and make changes over time, you might have noticed that? ;) As for your other suggestions, well, thanks but no thanks... I will pick on whatever I think is appropriate to pick on. If there is a watch in comparable price range that offers better in a particular facet, then it's absolutely fair game to point out these faults.
@paulcho5345
@paulcho5345 5 жыл бұрын
Hawaiian Islands of my own life is good and evil Hawaiian slack
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome man! What're you taking??
@manuelloredo8592
@manuelloredo8592 2 жыл бұрын
Me dio curiosidad, porque titulas el video como "una gran estafa"? No lo entiendo, al ver el vídeo las críticas son mayormente positivas, no encuentro el punto.
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 2 жыл бұрын
What?
@coocool67
@coocool67 4 жыл бұрын
shameful copy of the original
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
I got the feeling they’re quite proud of it ;)
@coocool67
@coocool67 4 жыл бұрын
@@PerthWAtch shameful to infringe on copyrights, this is illegal
@ivankerr3570
@ivankerr3570 4 жыл бұрын
It’s prob as good as a Tag. They are rubbish anyway. Why would anyone want to pay homage to Tag is beyond me
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty simple it would seem to me... money and profit! ;)
@cristiandiaz6469
@cristiandiaz6469 6 жыл бұрын
Bla bla bla
@PerthWAtch
@PerthWAtch 6 жыл бұрын
Blah blah blah blah? ;)
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