Women are basically pre Viet Cong? This has more retro 60s Brit melody than expected.

​@dis.infectant a lot of the Women material was written and sung by the guitarist (brother of the bassist and vocalist from Viet Cong) who didn't join Viet Cong. if you listen to his more recent project Cindy Lee you can hear where a lot of those influences came from.

@oweb7754 Intriguing. I'll take a listen.

I think when I made the sonic youth comparison I was specifically thinking in terms of their mid-late era output where the composition got more direct and melodic and a lot of the abrasiveness came from the textural work and odd melodic lines stemming from weird tunings. I think you could read that last stanza a lot of different ways, perhaps as emphasizing the distance between the narrator and the other with the more traditional shipwreck imagery of palm trees contrasted against the modernity of the cash machine. A big strength I think of this albums lyrics and a lot of great lyrics/poetry imo is its ability to say a lot and communicate a lot of complex emotions and moods without literally stating anything, reinforcing it's themes through imagery and abstraction rather than directly and definitely stating anything, leaves much more room for the listener to dream. I'll make sure the next track I recommend is even more inscrutable!

i am so happy you nailed down the incredibly evocative nature of this song. to me the mix of lethargy, hopefulness and sorrow in this song creates the most bittersweet and life-affirming feeling i have ever heard in music, which i am allowed to say for real because this is my favorite song of all time :P. the haziness in this song is shared through the entire album and previous tracks are far far more compositionally dissonant, which in context gives this song a kind of "stepping into the light" sort of feeling for an album closer. to me, the haziness brings to mind the enormity of one's entire life as a whole and the impossibility of representing it. the fuzziness of memories and of feelings, the gaps that will exist in any attempt to explain or narrativize ones life. like i said, life affirming. i love the lyrics on the same measure - all of women's lyrics are this borderline nonsense cryptic poetry and their appeal is mostly evocative, although to me at least that doesn't diminish their beauty. the bittersweet love song that the lyrics evoke here was... well for me i just heard it at the perfect time in my life, but i think it holds a lot of emotion and i think the feeling of the words as sung (particularly that final stanza) is really powerful