A Brief History of: The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire 1911 (Short Documentary)

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Plainly Difficult

Plainly Difficult

Күн бұрын

#History #documentary #truestories
Todays Plainly Difficult disaster documentary looks at The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in the Greenwich Village neighbourhood of Manhattan, New York City, on March 25, 1911.
It was the deadliest industrial disaster in the history of New York, and one of the deadliest in U.S. history.
The event would show the dangers of Capitalism and change US workers rights for the better, but sadly would cost 146 lives.
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@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Want to see more industrial disasters like this let me know of any suggestions below!
@blunderingfool
@blunderingfool 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing more mini-docs on building/engineering disasters.
@cjpaeropaint
@cjpaeropaint 2 жыл бұрын
The General Slocum disaster. Largest death count in NYC until 9-11.
@cygnia
@cygnia 2 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland East Ohio Gas Explosion in 1944!
@igostupidfast3
@igostupidfast3 2 жыл бұрын
Collinwood school fire
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
You could do the Hurricane Rita Houston evacuation. ...It was a titanic 💩 show, and quite possibly the world's largest traffic jam. Yes, people died. (It was a month after Katrina, so I think the poor government response in New Orleans had a lot of us spooked.)
@Sally4th_
@Sally4th_ 2 жыл бұрын
This is what people mean when they say that safety regulations are written in blood. Rest in peace all the poor souls who died that day or who survived but were mentally scarred for the rest of their lives.
@kumaahito3927
@kumaahito3927 2 жыл бұрын
It is absolutely mind boggling that the owners were acquitted, continued the same practices that lead to the disaster, were caught twice more at least, but nobody ever reopened the case to actually punish them besides taking some "pocket change"
@foo219
@foo219 2 жыл бұрын
@@kumaahito3927 Unfortunately not especially surprising in that culture.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 2 жыл бұрын
@@foo219 This is still going on in the garment industry today. Just in different countries.
@Niskirin
@Niskirin 2 жыл бұрын
@@kumaahito3927 It's actually run of the mill ordinary thing. Rich people have more political power, and political power can and will distort justice. Exactly as happened here. I'm sure the businessmen had political connections too, which probably distorted things even further. This is how human societies in general function. Do not expect justice. Political power is the only real arbiter of who gets punished and who gets to walk free from even the worst crimes.
@kumaahito3927
@kumaahito3927 2 жыл бұрын
@@Niskirin i know, I've put it badly. Still sad tho
@ashleyhathaway8548
@ashleyhathaway8548 2 жыл бұрын
It was pretty amazing how NYU students from the building next-door managed to save several people by extending a ladder between the windows for workers to crawl over.
@Mrhalligan39
@Mrhalligan39 2 жыл бұрын
That happened at the Iroquois Theater Fire in Chicago as well; students from Northwestern University managed to bridge Couch Place and rescued several people before the plank bridge gave way.
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 2 жыл бұрын
this disaster always horrifies me. any fire where the exits are locked or obstructed will take so many lives if there’s no other means of egress.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Its very horrific
@ExperimentIV
@ExperimentIV 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult yeah. the station nightclub fire is another example that destroys me. learning about these incidents did make me a more vigilant person at least, because now i always check where all the exits near me are in a building i’m in.
@lebthot5787
@lebthot5787 2 жыл бұрын
or the amount of children working
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
@@johngaughan9399 exactly why the capture of our regulatory agencies by big business is so harmful. There could be bigger disasters headed our way.
@DistendedPerinium
@DistendedPerinium 2 жыл бұрын
@@ExperimentIV Do yourselves a favor and do not watch that video.
@MJTVideos
@MJTVideos 2 жыл бұрын
If you visit any store in America now you might notice a sign or letters above the doors of a business that say “this door to remain unlocked during business hours” and I believe the triangle fire was the reason for that legislation
@ladyrazorsharp
@ladyrazorsharp 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew that was the reason!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew that either!
@Eye_Of_Odin978
@Eye_Of_Odin978 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah every business with a certain amount of allowance for occupancy has to have a certain amount of usable exits during operation for situations like this. It really came into play when I did my Fire Code training in Fire Academy. It was important for us to know how many exits to expect, roughly, and their general placements. People would get mad if their building wasn't up to code like it's our fault somehow. All I could think was "if a fire ever broke out here, your ass would be grass and OSHA is gonna have the weed whacker" It's ridiculous how little some people care about basic fire safety.
@pondking2801
@pondking2801 9 ай бұрын
Also why doors in businesses are required to open out among many other requirements.
@MightyMezzo
@MightyMezzo 2 жыл бұрын
The Ash Building is still standing and in use. It’s owned by NYU. The top three floors are cut up into laboratory spaces. That’s what “fireproof” meant then: building would suffer no structural damage and could be put back in use as soon as the wreckage and bodies were cleared out.
@dahliacheung6020
@dahliacheung6020 4 күн бұрын
That is great that the buildings were made they way, as they should be made safely and fireproof construction also often contains the fire so that it doesn't spread to the next building and the next. What is not ok is using that excuse to think "Oh these workers I exploit and abuse will be just fine locked in for the workday so that they don't steal a fabric scrap to patch up their child's school outfit or just as bad, take a break! The buildings fireproof so why should I worry about a fire?" Evil, evil and greedy...
@believeinfaeries8713
@believeinfaeries8713 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that similar incidents are still happening in the textile industry. Another great disaster to look at is the Dhaka garment factory collapse. Once I started reading about current conditions in most garment factories, I stopped buying fast fashion and instead focused on buying quality, ethically made clothing or thrifting clothes. (I also understand that this isn't a clear cut issue and many people can only afford fast fashion clothing, which delves more into how horribly people in general are paid.)
@daminox
@daminox 2 жыл бұрын
The youtuber Brick Immortar has a great video on that disaster. I bet most people who sub to this channel will enjoy that content as well.
@believeinfaeries8713
@believeinfaeries8713 2 жыл бұрын
@@daminox Agreed!
@DavidCurryFilms
@DavidCurryFilms 2 жыл бұрын
The Rana Plaza collapse was one of the most disgraceful, disgusting things to befall workers in the modern age - what shocks but doesn't surprise me is that even high value goods involve the abuse of the poor in some unseen area of the world. Luxury teas in the UK still come from pickers that aren't given a bare minimum of PPE to protect from pesticides (for very little cost!). Foxconn is a good read if your not feeling miserable enough😬
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
Good for you I admire that
@sodaaccount
@sodaaccount Жыл бұрын
I agree mostly, but Im a broke student and I dont wear any fast fashion. It aint cheap at all. I got myself some Levis for 20-30$ a piece back in 2008 (!) and I still wear them. I got a few more last year, but thats it. If you wear clothes until they are no longer wearable, quality is 100x cheaper than Shein or other fast fashion sh*t.
@scorpman300
@scorpman300 2 жыл бұрын
another bad thing with these sewing factories were the wooden floors were soaked with oil from the sewing machines, the fuzz from the material, and other things from the handing and processing of clothing items. i worked in many sewing factories doing electrical work in the city i live in, reading, Pa. we used to be a big area for sewing factories. and we had some that caught fire and man did they go up fast and burn down in no time. and i can tell you crawling around those places the layers of dust, fuzz, oily goop that was left behind in the crawl spaces and up in the beams
@gnarthdarkanen7464
@gnarthdarkanen7464 2 жыл бұрын
I swear... When you first get started with any kind of powered equipment for fabric or textiles, like a sewing machine or automatic knitter, it's ASTOUNDING how much fuzzy, dusty, crap they seem to magically attract!!! You get your first sewing machine, be it a "normal" or a "surger" and you learn that intricate clean-out procedure from the manual... AND then a new one from the technician to help you clean, oil, and maintain on your own between visits... AND then EVERY single time you turn your head there's something else catching lint... some place else where something's dragging... and you're getting inventive with an air-compressor because you just can't afford keyboard cleaner anymore... I honestly don't know how they'd handle it in the sewing factories... I'd be out of my mind in a week! ;o)
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
Like being built of fatwood 😔
@JosieJOK
@JosieJOK 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been fascinated by this disaster ever since I attended NYU and realized (from the plaque on the building) that I was attending class in the very building in which it took place. Thanks for giving it your trademark compassionate, yet matter-of-fact treatment!
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372
@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. So did NYU buy the lot the land was on, knock down the old building, and then build their own in its place, or did they literally just renovate the old Shirtwaist factory building? It's always strange when a building has an old, dark history like that.
@josephw2905
@josephw2905 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 It's still the same building!! Triangle owned the 8-10th floors, and after everything was fixed after the fire, NYU bought the 8th floor in 1916. NYU later bought the whole building
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 The building is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, which doesn't provide any actual legal protection, but does mean there would probably be a lengthy court battle waged by preservationists if any owner tried to demolish it.
@JosieJOK
@JosieJOK 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcnultyssobercompanion6372 The building was, indeed, fireproof. Unfortunately, everything else *in* the building was not. NYU has owned land around Washington Square Park since right after it was founded in the 1830s-indeed, some NYU Law students attending a Saturday study session next door rescued some of the fire victims by stretching some ladders across the gap between the roofs of the buildings.
@Warbugzz
@Warbugzz 2 жыл бұрын
There's a beautiful, heart-twistingly realistic book I read as a kid. It's a historical fiction novel iirc, called "Ashes of Roses" by M.J. Auch. It focused on both the brutal treatment faced by many Irish immigrants entering from Ellis Island during the early 1900s, and more specifically, it presents this exact disaster and the people it affected. The whole book is completely thrilling from cover to cover.
@god.mp4
@god.mp4 2 жыл бұрын
What country is that in your pfp?
@TheGrannyMuncher
@TheGrannyMuncher 2 жыл бұрын
@@god.mp4 I think it might be France
@Warbugzz
@Warbugzz 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, interesting guess though! It's a Pan pride flag. 😅
@fever4174
@fever4174 2 жыл бұрын
@@Warbugzz don’t tell me you thought they were serious
@Warbugzz
@Warbugzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@fever4174 of course not! 🤣 but hey, if they're going to behave like knuckleheads in the comment section of a education-based KZfaq channel, let them. I'm not the one that looks ridiculous! (Well, perhaps I do look a bit ridiculous. The pan flag has always been fairly bright and gaudy, buuut it also draws the eye, so... 😅)
@mattkaustickomments
@mattkaustickomments 2 жыл бұрын
As a former Forensic Architecture Technician, part of our duty was check for trip hazards & fire safety. One of the most common problems were stairwells in high rise bldngs not having adequate size/layout, and inconsistency of stairs. X amount of people are supposed to be able to dump out of a building in X time. Step /tread/height tolerance has to be within 1/16” of each other (can’t remember the exact number) but even being an 1/8” off from one step to another can subconsciously mess you up and you can trip. Slopes of stairs have to be within a certain range too.- if too steep, people are more likely to fall. Too shallow and it slows people down too much. The last thing is the size of the landings, exit door, and door swing. Landings have to allow for clumps of people to gather and get out. We developed a tool called the stairometer( I wish we patented it) -we would lock down the profile in a template of the staircase per the arch plans or per the building code at the time of construction. We would lay it on every step and measure how far off if any the stair was out of spec. I learned a lot on that job!
@ducatisti
@ducatisti 2 жыл бұрын
That is amazing, thank you for sharing. I never knew there were Forensic Architecture Techs, but now that I do, I think it would be a fascinating job.
@ashleycook6025
@ashleycook6025 2 жыл бұрын
The step measurement thing explains a few things in my life involving old buildings and haunted/curses stairs. And all of the facts are just cool in general.
@revenevan11
@revenevan11 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a video someone made about some random step on a staircase up from a subway station in NYC, if I remember correctly. The step was not visually perceivable as different, but this person had measured the discrepancy compared to the others, and recorded a compilation of people tripping on that EXACT step! I don't have any source for this, just a vague memory of video I watched years ago.
@TheMechanic554
@TheMechanic554 2 жыл бұрын
(I recognize the importance) But imagine having to renovate stairwell cause 1 step is 1/8” too shallow lol
@ashleycook6025
@ashleycook6025 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMechanic554 add a riser of 1/8 of an inch to the other stairs. May have to replace some carpet, if the stairwell had any, but definitely easier than complete reno.
@grumbotron4597
@grumbotron4597 2 жыл бұрын
I remember back in highschool I was assigned to do a project explaining the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire. It made me anxious about going in buildings that could have potential fire hazards in them for about a year. Truly an awful situation where the main culprit was corporate greed wanting to minimize costs and maximize profits, no matter the cost of human lives.
@warrensteel9954
@warrensteel9954 2 жыл бұрын
Corporate greed never seems to change.
@Treklosopher
@Treklosopher 2 жыл бұрын
The avarice, greed and disregard for human life is a feature, not a bug, as they say.
@TenebrusI07
@TenebrusI07 2 жыл бұрын
If its corporate its always greedy. Corpos are devoid of humanity and would burn you and your family alive to make a buck. This is why we need more regulation with teeth and lengthy jail times.
@dx1450
@dx1450 Жыл бұрын
I first learned about it when I saw a movie about it on TV when I was a kid.
@MarcWhitaker
@MarcWhitaker Жыл бұрын
Read up on the Imperial Food Products plant in Hamlet, North Carolina. Faulty sprinklers and exits chained shut led to twenty-five deaths eighty years after the triangle fire.
@jaredkennedy6576
@jaredkennedy6576 2 жыл бұрын
Any time an industry is allowed to self regulate, this is the outcome. Safety regulations are written in blood, and labor laws are no different. The fact that so many people are so vocal about wanting to loosen up regulations that are there to keep them from becoming a statistic is beyond any level of reason.
@q3st1on19
@q3st1on19 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy, nice to see another video. Feels weird to be so happy to see a notification that just means I'll learn about people dying due to (usually) someone else's negligence.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
It is a strange feeling
@prestonroberts5405
@prestonroberts5405 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult yeah and also this video is pretty interesting cause here in the u.s. I learned about this topic in english class of all places and some of the stories written about inside point of view by the survivors is incredible
@cmasterson
@cmasterson 2 жыл бұрын
Don't look at it that way. The more we know about the history the better. When I was in architecture school we had to learn about egress. They used the Club/Studio Fire disaster as an example of bad design and how another fire 50 years prior changed law to have a 1 hour fire wall between building units. The studio/club fire was the worst for me. People got trampled and it was one door because they locked the others. No sprinkler system and the fire killed alot of people in a small space. I will always remember it and ever since I can always point out 2 or more exits in a building. Even parking lots to big shopping centers have a minimum of 2 exits to the parking lot. When traffic is heavy at the lights and entrances I circle around behind the building where delivery trucks go and find the back up exits 18 wheelers take. It saves time and makes things quick during the holidays. This Christmas I was leaving walmart and no one and I mean no one was on the back exits. The 2 eentrance/exits at the front with lights had about 60 cars each trying to leave. I circled around and stopped for 3 seconds at the stop sign and I was on the main road. Beat all the traffic. Said that to say I see building entrances and exits difference. I look for the best and least travel way to exit due to panic and people rushing for main exits.
@arcanondrum6543
@arcanondrum6543 2 жыл бұрын
@@cmasterson "...walmart" Ignoring how you pay up front, then move through to the back, pass through the Employees-Only stock area and leave, Walmart products are made in overseas factories like this one.
@damiensadventure
@damiensadventure 2 жыл бұрын
With the failures of those who were in charge of many of these places leading to disaster, it stands to reason these videos will be the only way we learn how to not do it again. In a kind of dark irony, these vids save lives. But most importantly we get the weekly weather report in London U.K.
@TyrellGordon
@TyrellGordon 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this in a firefighter book when I was in 5th grade. What I remember the most is the pictures in the book of the worker’s bodies on the sidewalk after jumping
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Its pretty gruesome!
@sparrow166
@sparrow166 2 жыл бұрын
They showed you pictures of dead bodies in 5th grade?
@finsta4979
@finsta4979 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparrow166 america
@darksu6947
@darksu6947 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparrow166 Life isn't all peaches and rainbows, but the fifth grade might be a little bit too soon to learn such a thing.
@TyrellGordon
@TyrellGordon 2 жыл бұрын
@@sparrow166 I don’t necessarily think the book was meant for 5th graders but I read it in 5th grade. I actually have that very book in my room to this day
@backflipdracula
@backflipdracula 2 жыл бұрын
A truly horrific and tragic disaster, with an infuriating aftermath to boot. I work in textiles myself, and in this day and age it can be easy to forget that someone had to fight for these working conditions. I hope the lives that were lost this day found their peace
@malicious217
@malicious217 2 жыл бұрын
I live in New England in a relatively small town. I volunteer for my local fire department and we have a regional Fire Academy. This specific incident is still studied today. Several obvious things are covered: don't lock escape routes, have plenty of fire extinguishers, etc. One thing that is obvious but might not seem it from an abstract view is DO NOT BUILD HIGHER THAN YOUR TALLEST LADDER.
@warailawildrunner5300
@warailawildrunner5300 2 жыл бұрын
Grenfell tower is a case in point. Although after that disaster, some bright spark wanted to build a 51 storey residential block of flats not far away from where that occured. But only wanted 1 set of staircases in order to maximise profits. Yeah that nearly got the go ahead if it wasn't for The Guardian (a UK newspaper) finding out and splashing it all over their front pages.
@neuralmute
@neuralmute 2 жыл бұрын
I first heard about this story from my grandfather, who was both the Deputy Chief of our local fire department, and also a self-taught tailor. Because I loved his stories, I knew right away when he described the building what was going to happen...
@malicious217
@malicious217 2 жыл бұрын
@@neuralmute this is literally all I know of your grandfather and I'm sure I would love his stories too!
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
Local boards of commissioners must hold development to safety of available resources. Really good to get to know your local govt, Sheriff, Fire Dept!
@musicmanfelipe
@musicmanfelipe 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, my town is getting a new industrial site, and in turn our department is getting a brand new 107’ Pierce Ascender.
@ply61
@ply61 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Mexico the same happened on the 1985 quake, a lot of textile workers died because their building catches fire and all doors were locked from outside with a big chain, my grandma worked nearby and saw much of what happened.
@loulou7963
@loulou7963 Жыл бұрын
That’s terrible. Why would anyone lock workers in like that !
@big_mike_nyc
@big_mike_nyc 2 жыл бұрын
I am in construction here in NYC.. I've worked on projects at NYU which is directly across the street and every time I see this building I get chills after learning about this catastrophe in school as a kid...
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 2 жыл бұрын
It's still there?! Wow, I'd have thought it would've been demolished a long time ago.
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 2 жыл бұрын
@@RCAvhstape Nope it's still around. My dad did electrical work in the building a few years back. He mention about how eerie it is inside
@NotOnDrugs
@NotOnDrugs 2 жыл бұрын
Mike, I'm looking to get away from where I am currently, as I'm just not happy. Could you point me in the right direction to get a job in NYC? I love the city, especially being from the sticks of nowhere.
@rjsouthworth5246
@rjsouthworth5246 2 жыл бұрын
There was an even worse fire in NYC just seven years before the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, onboard the steamboat General Slocum. 1021 people died, mostly women and children going on a day trip. There were abysmal safety standards on the boat: for example, the life jackets hadn’t been replaced in thirteen years and instead of keeping people afloat, they absorbed water and dragged their wearers down.
@LovelyInfiniti
@LovelyInfiniti 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God! That’s my biggest fear! 😭
@stevenstice6683
@stevenstice6683 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the fire hoses on board were dry rotted and the life boats were either chained or bolted down - I don't remember which - effectively making them decorations.
@DyoKasparov
@DyoKasparov 2 жыл бұрын
this one was especially disturbing and triggering, owners didn't get any real punishment and it's pretty much how the system still works when it comes to the rich
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly true
@MyHandelsMessiah
@MyHandelsMessiah 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why we’ve got to hunt down people that get away with atrocities
@MyHandelsMessiah
@MyHandelsMessiah 2 жыл бұрын
Vigilante justice is acceptable when the avenues of normal justice fail entirely.
@Geoff69420
@Geoff69420 2 жыл бұрын
If the penalty for violating safety regulations is less than the cost of following the regulations, the company owners won't even pretend to care about workers' safety. 'Murica.
@ptonpc
@ptonpc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Geoff69420 Or just about any country now.
@samphillips4925
@samphillips4925 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a fireman. He was a little kid when the Triangle fire happened, but he always remberd it. That and the 1954 Cleavland school fire really made him be concerned about fire safety
@samphillips4925
@samphillips4925 2 жыл бұрын
The Cleavland hill school fire took place in Buffalo, NY, the next city over from him
@Ratmus1
@Ratmus1 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a video on Our Lady of the Angels school fire. That tragedy struck everyone in the area. Even my father who was a child at the time lost a cousin to the blaze.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@sharppointy1
@sharppointy1 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult I second the Our Lady of the Angels fire as a great topic.
@bakedbeings
@bakedbeings 2 жыл бұрын
I imagine the dead and their families would have appreciated your referring to the event as a industrial disaster rather than an industrial accident. The only efforts to preserve the lives of the workers were those that could be sloughed off to the women themselves - the restriction on smoking.
@matteblack5805
@matteblack5805 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly the doors opened in to the rooms, not outwards. So even if the doors were unlocked, panicked people mobbing to the doors would make them quite difficult to open. This is why doors open outwards (path of exit)
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 2 ай бұрын
That was the Cocoanut Grove fire, where the doors opened inward instead of outward.
@adamevans1989
@adamevans1989 2 жыл бұрын
Climate Town mentioned this in his fast fashion video, it's just so depressing that they got caught locking the doors AGAIN. Shows just how important labour laws and workers' rights are.
@scott_lego_city
@scott_lego_city 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a Good subject to think about. Its not about Dams but about a chemical dissaster in the netherlands. Its called: the fire at the Moerdijk at the 5th of january 2011. It is a chemical prossesion plant that caught fire and almost troched a square kilometer on fire.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@zorktxandnand3774
@zorktxandnand3774 2 жыл бұрын
Good one. also totally preventable and the result of not enforcing the rules. Somehow the profit of private company's is more important than public safety, and not destroying the environment.
@SK22000
@SK22000 2 жыл бұрын
This is still going on in Kentucky with the workers who couldn’t leave at he Amazon warehouse during the Tornado
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why I don't use amazon!
@SK22000
@SK22000 2 жыл бұрын
Same here
@washingtonradio
@washingtonradio 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the correct procedure in a tornado is to find an interior space with no windows and ideally several walls between the outside and you on the lowest level possible. A basement is best. You do not go outside in a tornado if at all possible except to go into an underground storm shelter. There is too much flying debris that can spear and kill you. Failing an interior, move as far away from the exterior walls as possible. Also, get as low as possible so any flying debris hopefully will not hit you. I have on the edges of a few tornados and they more dangerous than many who have never been around them realize.
@nerdoftheatre
@nerdoftheatre 2 жыл бұрын
The only correction was the Amazon plant was a few hours away from me, in Edwardsville, Illinois. The Kentucky facility was a candle facility in Mayfield, Kentucky. Edwardsville was hit around 9pm I believe. The National Weather Service put all of southern Illinois under a severe thunderstorm and tornado watch around 5pm. The tornado warning I believe was issued around 10 minutes before it hit the facility. (I have friends that attend SIUE and family from there, this is what they had told me.) Severe thunderstorms are rare for this area in winter. And with the change in temperatures we had that day, plus the added danger of a nighttime storm - it was a recipe for disaster. We had known for at least 3 days prior that this storm would be horrific and it could produce horrifying storms. These businesses had time to prepare. They had time to run a safety drill and show people where the interior safe spaces were/time for workers to know if they felt safe working during a projected severe storm. (Also, Amazon workers said that they were not allowed phones on themselves, but some kept their phones on them in case of the worst. Amazon has claimed this is false, but I believe the workers.) I know several places in my hometown that closed early because they did not want their employees to drive through the the horrific winds. We somehow managed to miss the worst of it, but nearly everywhere around us got hit with tornado warnings or hail. I believe all of southern Illinois - where I am from and where Edwardsville is located - was put under a watch starting at 5pm. We had several days of forewarning for how bad the storm could be PLUS several hours under a tornado watch/severe storm watch. I see a lot of people in my area be complacent about tornadoes. "It hasn't happened here, so it can't happen here." And I think that is what the Amazon warehouse was thinking, so management put Christmas Rush profits over the safety of their workers. Since it "can't happen here." I apologize for length, but as someone who saw just how bad the storm was and knew for just how much prep we had for a severe storm - it angers me at how little Amazon cared. How it seemed like they had no sturdy storm shelter, despite Edwardsville being on the edge of tornado alley. (And those exterior walls did not look like they were made to withstand high winds.) Employees should not have been in that building when the storm hit. And they had several hours under a tornado watch to prepare for the worst, as they were projected to be hit by a horrible cell. but they did nothing and allowed the next shift to come in and work. I could understand why you wouldn't want to cover the December 10th storm, as it is still so soon and there are still so many unknowns. (On top of there being so many different tornadoes.) But I would highly suggest covering it at some point. It was such a horrible and rare winter thunderstorm. And so many people were either injured or killed because they put profit over lives.
@readmorebooksidiots
@readmorebooksidiots 2 жыл бұрын
@@washingtonradio the warehouse had a storm shelter but they were either told too late to get there in time (Amazon warehouses are massive and tornadoes travel at 100mph), or weren't told at all
@clayfoster8234
@clayfoster8234 2 жыл бұрын
My only complaint with this video is as an American I think the historical ranking of 8 is wrong; it should be a 10. This is a before triangle/after triangle inflection moment in the US in regards to workers rights, occupational health and safety legislation, labor union growth, fire codes, generalized building codes, the publics views on immigrants as people, etc. To this day it has a not insignificant amount of space devoted to it in our high school history books.
@vertyisprobablydead
@vertyisprobablydead 2 жыл бұрын
If you think a fire in one building most people have never even heard about deserves a historical 10 you've never heard of real 10s like the Great Chicago fire or even worse the Iroquois Theater fire.
@thaliabirrueta8456
@thaliabirrueta8456 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertyisprobablydead Going to have to disagree with you. The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire is something that's taught in a lot of schools here in the U.S.
@vertyisprobablydead
@vertyisprobablydead 2 жыл бұрын
@@thaliabirrueta8456 no it's not. Here in the US.
@mjmooney6530
@mjmooney6530 2 жыл бұрын
I’d give it a 10 on the Legacy because of Frances Perkins. If you don’t know who she is and her connection to the tragic event, you need to look her up. The TSW fire and FP changed American History and US Labor Laws forever. Additionally, the movie Dirty Dancing pays homage to FP, the first woman in the Cabinet…Baby’s real name was Frances.
@helenafarkas4534
@helenafarkas4534 2 жыл бұрын
@@vertyisprobablydead while not discounting the human cost of the two fires you mentioned, they did not influence US labor standards the way Triangle did. given that most if not all US labor safety laws can be linked in one way or another to this one fire - given that it was the first to get the political momentum needed to start the conversation - it deserves a 10. OSHA exists today because of this fire
@ghostlightwhisper6802
@ghostlightwhisper6802 2 жыл бұрын
I had read about this tragedy before, but I never realized that the owners kept up their bad practices after the fire. I am at a loss for words. That is a combination of greed and stupidity that boggles the mind.
@duckyfluffy3332
@duckyfluffy3332 2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. It also reminds me of what my history teacher would do. He would open and close the door and ask what was important about it. He would then talk about that the reason the door opened outwards was because in the day doors opened in ward and in factories if there was a fire people would run to the door to escape. Since they were all piling on a door that opened inward no one could open the door. People would die from being trampled on and trapped to be consumed by the fire. He would always use this example when ever we talked about the industrial revolution and when he tried to explain why studying history is important. That even the tiniest things such as a way we open doors is important
@davidtraynor8075
@davidtraynor8075 2 жыл бұрын
Tragic that life is cheap and still is.
@LilyLewis771
@LilyLewis771 2 жыл бұрын
I read a book as a kid about the lives of a few (real) women who were caught and died in the fire. It was genuinely one of the most terrifying and horrible things I’d ever read- it included the graphic ways in which workers died, I could hardly believe it was real and how cruel it all was. Brutal but effective introduction to worker’s rights as a child.
@cygnia
@cygnia 2 жыл бұрын
This tragedy has a special hold on me as it helped me win a speech competition in junior high and I was given the topic "catastrophes".
@KnightDaylight
@KnightDaylight 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this way back in middle school. It wasn't until years later when I realized the absolute severity of lack of safety standards through out the industrial age between the 1700's to even today. We can joke about how OSHA is always up someone ass about something that isn't up to standard, but after witnessing injuries that fully could have been avoided, you start to realize that OSHA is absolute bare minimum in safety procedures. It's unfortunate that in order to actually start following safety procedures, people have to die first. Even after people die, it's up to companies to decide whether they'll spend the $5k out of the millions they make to do safety training. Common sense starts with the individual, but gets you fired by the company who tells you to disregard safety for profit.
@Punisher9419
@Punisher9419 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing changes, workers are still seen as a commodity and are abused by employers. It's why workers rights are so important, if you don't have them your employer will provide only the bare minumum.
@justinbellotti7838
@justinbellotti7838 2 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this one for a long time. I was so excited to see the thumbnail today... This is the earliest I have been.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@warailawildrunner5300
@warailawildrunner5300 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly this is still a thing in parts of the world. 2012 Dhaka garment factory is a case in point. Locked doors, poor working conditions, insane hours, low paid, mostly young females and children. The 2021 fires in Pakistan (Lahore and Karachi ) with similar conditions and insane death tolls. There was even one in 2021 (Rupganj, Bangladesh) - although it was a juice factory, not a garment one - no fire exits, illegal building etc As long as people want money over lives, these things will continue to happen.
@danielomar9712
@danielomar9712 2 жыл бұрын
And the saddest thing is that , they will always win , profits over lives will always go on since well . It's good to be rich
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 2 жыл бұрын
It may be obscure to much of the rest of the world, but this disaster is still so epochal in the US that it's mentioned in, of all things, an episode of the web series _Freeman's Mind_ (a comedic narration of gameplay from _Half-Life,_ you can find it here on KZfaq). Freeman rants about it after running into a dead end at a locked door that looks like it should be an emergency exit.
@Susie_Floozie
@Susie_Floozie 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary of this horrible event. Fabric scraps and textile dust fed the initial fire, but the heavy wooden floors turned it into a raging inferno. For years, oil from the machinery had soaked into the wood. Once the floors began to burn, the oil acted as an accelerant to make this hell even more hellish.
@MitzvosGolem1
@MitzvosGolem1 2 жыл бұрын
My great uncle was Senator Robert Wagner D ,NY passed alot of laws to prevent this happening again ... Horrible.
@thejudgmentalcat
@thejudgmentalcat 2 жыл бұрын
I'd never considered arson. It was horrible enough how negligent the place was 🤔
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Its definitely a possibly worth mentioning!
@aaronbasham6554
@aaronbasham6554 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult I had never heard the arson angle before, but also... Yeah, that does seem like the kind of crap the people who ran that company would get up to
@splendidpursuits8153
@splendidpursuits8153 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not delving and for presenting at the speed of ADHD. It's so much easier to stay focused and get the basics of an event in this format
@RealCadde
@RealCadde 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder why the owners houses didn't mysteriously catch fire with all the exits blocked by chains.
@kastandlee
@kastandlee 2 жыл бұрын
My wife and I try to report to the local fire marshal safety hazards like blocked doors, and they just yawn at us. When you go grocery shopping, notice how often the doors are partially blocked with piles of goods for sale. Those plies will make the building harder to evacuate in an emergency because they usually make the breakaway fire exits more difficult or even impossible to open, or at best leave narrower spaces through which to escape. I wonder when we will get another catastrophe.
@mynameisladder3481
@mynameisladder3481 2 жыл бұрын
The results of this also pushed alot of fire safety regulations throughout the united states. That are still relevant to this day.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Very much so
@laurslyes
@laurslyes 2 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your uploads. Thank you 😊
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@Biaanca5036
@Biaanca5036 2 жыл бұрын
I got a chapter of this in Jr.High schooling but it focused on ... other things.. Like the machinery the workers used and the locked emergency exits and the kinds of things they made with the machinery and the prices of their materials but not much else.-- Knowing how your channel handles things though, I'm excited for your more 'study the blackbox' approach :D
@oli24yt
@oli24yt 2 жыл бұрын
I do love the weather updates from your corner of London at the end. gets a chuckle out of me every time
@sixstar2067
@sixstar2067 2 жыл бұрын
This story highlights the importance of unions in the constant never-ending battle for worker's rights. We would still be working in conditions like these and worse in nearly all industries today if not for the brave union members sticking together to fight for better lives for everyone.
@Brenilla
@Brenilla 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this in middle school (grade 7 more specifically). We focused on the effects this situation had on regulations for buildings and played into more worker rights stuff. Stuff I remember is about how the factory basically had implemented a check in out system with the doors, and made them less fitable. Doors swung inside the room. This caused huge issues in the stairways, people couldn’t open the door because the panic just had many people just trying to get out by going towards the excit. When the fire had gotten so bad a number jumped from windows before the firemen had arrived with catching tarps. And even when they did most if not all that attempted jumping down did not make the fall. Also remember how the lower floor was the floor with the men on it and one likely being the one who unconsciously threw the cigarette butt into the scrap waist bin. And most the main facts included in the lovely video. It’s Truely a harrowing tragedy that although verry preventable did help with adding needed regulations.
@helenhoward5346
@helenhoward5346 2 жыл бұрын
Ugh. It's just nightmare fuel. I can't think of many worse ways to die in a collective setting. It's just horrific. I can only imagine witnessing this unfold from the outside, just realizing that you're about to witness these workers realize there's no hope for them.
@bunny7seven7
@bunny7seven7 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for the amazing content and a deep dive in history. every video you make is hard, dark but needed. keep up the great work
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin
@whatifschrodingersboxwasacofin 2 жыл бұрын
The Triangle Shirtwaist case is one of the primary civil law (ie. non-criminal) cases we studied at law school. It’s really fundamental to our current work environments here in North America.
@McSnezzly
@McSnezzly 2 жыл бұрын
Im diagnosed with OCD and I want to thank you for the fundraiser. It’s difficult to live with and difficult to talk about because of how stigmatized it is
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling! Thank you for your comment
@NinjaTyler
@NinjaTyler 2 жыл бұрын
The worst part is that after getting away with it he did it again with his next building locking the exit doors and such
@JasonFlorida
@JasonFlorida 2 жыл бұрын
I really like watching your videos! I hope you have some sunny and warm days ahead!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You too!
@wafflelopagus
@wafflelopagus 2 жыл бұрын
aah! i did a school project on this in 6th grade i even made a little building with the faults pointed out good work!
@hucklebucklin
@hucklebucklin 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a lot of the Stardust Tragedy in Dublin in the 1980s. A nightclub with fire escapes, but they were all chained up. The building caught fire and many inside perished.
@kratz9
@kratz9 2 жыл бұрын
For the historical legacy scale, I'd say it's 9 from an American perspective. Only because it's one of the few disasters that you can find in grade school history textbooks. Probably second only to the Chicago Fire in widespread knowledge. Speaking of the Chicago fire, would you ever consider a video on the Peshtigo Fire? Way more deadly, but it happened the same night as the Chicago fire, and the news didn't give a crap about rural America.
@SnowblindOtter
@SnowblindOtter 2 жыл бұрын
The legacy of this is actually a 9 or 10: The 1911 Triangle Factory Fire is also the inciting incident that generated the federal law requiring all business doors leading to the exterior or escape avenues to remain unlocked during business hours, and to have said statement clearly posted on the door in question.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it's legacy continues to this day and greatly changed safety building laws in NYC and USA
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 2 жыл бұрын
Another situation where having money bought escape from prosecution. It’s a sad reflection of our legal system back in the day- and today as well. It’s disgusting but folks still escape prosecution like this simply because they are wealthy, influential business people. Thankfully there are laws to help prevent the cruel treatment of workers in the US today.
@theallseeingeye9388
@theallseeingeye9388 2 жыл бұрын
This is a common occurance in Bangladesh today.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly true!
@b-e-a-r6166
@b-e-a-r6166 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of your channel, especially radiological disasters/incidents. This was a great video!
@randomtinypotatocried
@randomtinypotatocried 2 жыл бұрын
My dad worked in the building a few years back and he mentioned on how eerie it is inside the place. He's convince the place is haunted
@Miki90Mar
@Miki90Mar 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately quite ironic that what went up in flames was the As(c)h building
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Asches to ashes!
@nonna_sof5889
@nonna_sof5889 2 жыл бұрын
The owners were a bunch of As(ch) holes.
@Myrea_Rend
@Myrea_Rend 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting for this one!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you found the video informative!
@paulinesmith4017
@paulinesmith4017 2 жыл бұрын
Flouting the rules, not flaunting: although the words sound similar they have very different meanings. We all make mistakes, but if we know we can prevent them happening in future. Thank you for the interesting programmes.
@lionelfelix6631
@lionelfelix6631 2 жыл бұрын
This building was no more than 5 blocks from where I grew up on 5th avenue and 10th street. The building seems to have been right on washington square park, where I spent my childhood. When I heard of this story i always thought it was in the lower east side where a lot of garment sweat shops were. As always, you produce awesome content.
@MakeItWithCalvin
@MakeItWithCalvin 2 жыл бұрын
I think the most tragic part was people deciding 8 or 9 stories did not seem very high up and at that point jumping felt like the only option. You may die, but you may get lucky and live, and at that point, you will take any option. The fire did bring about many life safety codes we take for granted to this day but at an awful cost.
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r
@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r 2 жыл бұрын
I unfortunately took the more grim approach and figured it was a choice of dying quickly by fall, or slowly by fire. That choice if all that seemed to be left seems that death by fall would be more pleasant.
@jrenee1040
@jrenee1040 2 жыл бұрын
@@D3M3NT3Dstrang3r That's what we were taught in school when we learned about this.
@n.herbig7592
@n.herbig7592 2 жыл бұрын
This story has stuck with me through the decades. It happened on my birthday and it makes me sad. These poor people had to make a decision to burn to death or jump. It was a mini scaled 9/11 in that regards.
@johndoyle4723
@johndoyle4723 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, truly horrifying, sadly locked fire escapes persisted for many more years. I had no knowledge of this disaster, but,I do now.
@spencersholden
@spencersholden 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about this event from watching Warehouse 13. A doorknob from the factory was imbued with the fire from the event and would burn anyone that touched it.
@RichardWatt
@RichardWatt Жыл бұрын
I remember that show! I kinda liked it and need to see if it's back on one of our free to air channels.
@hopeful_devoid6598
@hopeful_devoid6598 2 жыл бұрын
This was part of my school curriculum when I took American history in high school. The school would remove such events from the curriculum. Their reasoning being that young adults don't need to worry about the negligence of companies in the past. Even recent events were removed.
@perfectsims
@perfectsims Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend.. for your educational and historical information
@Garinovitch
@Garinovitch 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I remember this story, I also remember that the doors were locked were keep workers isolated to prevent any outside parties to come in and try to unionize workers.
@dnf3343
@dnf3343 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. It would be interesting to see your take on the Hartford circus fire.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion!
@ladyrazorsharp
@ladyrazorsharp 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult absolutely, would be interested to see your take on that!
@grmpEqweer
@grmpEqweer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, John.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@FireDragonAnime
@FireDragonAnime Жыл бұрын
I got my first factory job as a 16 year old in Toronto in the late 1990s, and compared to now, the equipment we used was from the 50s and 60s, and incredibly dangerous, with a complete lack of any basic safety features, guards, or things to block you from losing hands or fingers. In the early 2000s they upgraded things, and never looked back - it's really weird to think that just 30 years ago things weren't anywhere near as safe as today, it's a lot more recent than you'd ever know.
@FireDragonAnime
@FireDragonAnime Жыл бұрын
At the time, I didn't think it was strange to be a kid running machinery, but now that I'm grown, I wonder why that was ever allowed - if you get injured at such a young age, you destroy the rest of your life -- before it even began. Weird they used to hire high school students, and weird our parents made us work like that.
@m4d_mark_xtr3me79
@m4d_mark_xtr3me79 2 жыл бұрын
Got yourself another sub 👍 Been enjoying your vids for a while.
@katatat2030
@katatat2030 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this
@joethebrowser2743
@joethebrowser2743 2 жыл бұрын
Another brilliant channel👍🏻🇬🇧
@Battttt
@Battttt 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, just in time, with a nice warm cup of tea and biscuits !!
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmm tasty what type of biscuits?
@Battttt
@Battttt 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlainlyDifficult speculoos biscuits mate ;) It's better with coffee but i like them with tea aswell
@Treklosopher
@Treklosopher 2 жыл бұрын
I love your sign off. I always listen for the London weather update. ;)
@Hamsterjuices
@Hamsterjuices 2 жыл бұрын
It never gets easier to here this one. I've been taught about it a couple times in school and watched a video or two on it. It's always heart breaking.
@sentientricecake3125
@sentientricecake3125 2 жыл бұрын
First learned about this from the Ralph Bakshi film American Pop. This is a truly heartbreaking part of history that has been mostly forgotten today. Thank you for this video!
@noahwells5085
@noahwells5085 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so much thank you for all you do!
@melodyszadkowski5256
@melodyszadkowski5256 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew this story pretty well but as always I learned something new from PD's take on the subject. Bravo zulu as always!
@lanacampbell-moore6686
@lanacampbell-moore6686 2 жыл бұрын
So Very Sad & Thanks PD👌❤
@kennethdailey7660
@kennethdailey7660 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about this in the fourth grade in a small school on the west cost. And it still infuriates me to this day. Awesome video still feel you rated it low on your scale’s.
@BlackRavenFeather565
@BlackRavenFeather565 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this in 7th grade, it was horrifying. I was fascinated to learn about the safety precautions that came of it though.
@helenafarkas4534
@helenafarkas4534 2 жыл бұрын
Given that OSHA - the governing body that regulates US labor safety standards only came into existence as part of the blowback from this fire I’d say that it deserves a legacy 10. Other fires might have had higher death tolls, but the fact that US workers in any industry can claim any workplace safety rules (industry compliance is another matter but that the resource exists to make a meaningful complaint to is a level of protection all of its own) is Triangle’s legacy here.
@MultiMightyQuinn
@MultiMightyQuinn 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE your videos but trying to find a good comment is difficult, both because you do such a fantastic job covering things and also because while fascinating, it's like watching the UCSB videos, you just don't have a lot of words after watching. Thanks so much for sharing!
@williesnyder2899
@williesnyder2899 2 жыл бұрын
Very good job! I learned items which I hadn’t known about this avoidable horrid and unforgivably tragic act of callousness!
@ChryslerLeBaro
@ChryslerLeBaro 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, really enjoy the show.
@PlainlyDifficult
@PlainlyDifficult 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@6pot
@6pot 2 жыл бұрын
Very good histories and very good speech. very good channel.
@KMACKTIME
@KMACKTIME 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there was mention of this in a venture bros episode where it’s revealed that the venture skyscraper in NY was built on this location and is haunted lol
@ANEAMV
@ANEAMV 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about this a few months ago in school it’s quite grim……
@disgracedsphinx3494
@disgracedsphinx3494 2 жыл бұрын
I remember learning about this in history class, thank God for labor laws
@dx1450
@dx1450 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a movie about this on TV when I was a kid.
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