Not having Non-CPs working on CP nights and letting CPs enjoy the parks on CP nights is not okay. You can't have a benefit then take it away from those eligible without creating animosity.

this was so helpful, thank you for making an honest not so glorified video. I just got accepted and this helped me see the reality of it rather than just the magical side.

My sister did the program and became so depressed she quit halfway when we visited her and she broke down. She worked at the Nemo musical, but I saw how exploitative it really was given how I used to work for my parents and am pretty used to exploitation reworded as experience.

That parking nightmare would of made me either go crazy or straight up quit! LOL

Wow. I did my program in 2015 and it was the best time of my life. Yes Vista was kinda… sketchy. But it was convenient, we could give away as many shifts as we wanted, whenever we wanted, and my rent was $98 a week. We could list roles in order of priority on our application, and could request locations during our interview. We got a graduation event at the housing complex and mostly everyone’s locations managed to work with people so they could go. We had ACTUAL classes, that I thought were worth the time. I don’t think I would make it if I had to do another program with how things are now…

WOW I know I shouldn't be shocked by this information but... I mean the fact that custodial services is part of the "college program"... and that CPs had to work their own celebration event!! So many things about this that is just unbelievable.

that couch is giving me vista way couch vibes

This is one of the best DCP videos I've seen in a longgg time! Great blend of humor and facts, great job being honest without being unnecessarily scathing or insulting.

Spring 2019 cm here! I can't stress enough how much an impact your location has, even in the same park. I worked custodial in epcot world showcase and worked about 35-45 hours a week. My custodial friends in future world ALWAYS worked 60-70 hours a week. It was insane. They constantly looked exhausted and always had some drama about the managers over there... Overall grateful for my dcp experience but looking back I was so depressed and stressed out 24/7. It's not for the faint of heart

AS someone who is well beyond my college years, I found your video interesting enough that I watched the whole thing, which is rare for these types of videos.

I’m currently on my DCP and this was such an accurate and very thorough walk through of the whole experience. Probably the best one I’ve seen!

thank you for being honest. i'm on it right now and it feels like a consistent kick in the guts. we are completely blocked from the parks until may now & i've been here for two months and only gone once. i got food & bev and it just feels like my job back home with the anxiety of getting sideworks done through fireworks

I did the summer college program in ‘99. I had to share a 3 bedroom 2 bathroom (of course the 2nd bathroom was in one of the bedrooms and so was theirs) apartment with 2 people to a room and pay $60 a week. I worked at Hollywood studios in the backlot and our bus did stop at multiple locations! I only worked closing shifts and worked 48 hours 6 days a week with my “day off” half of it was my business class. So I got half a day off a week!! I made no money and had to have my mom send me some. I was making like $5 an hour before taxes. I took the bus to Walmart or some random grocery store to buy food since even with my discount food is expensive in the parks! It was an experience I got to see the underground city of the magic kingdom but could not get my shift covered when Aerosmith came to the official opening of rockin roller coaster so I missed that. They didn’t have any events for us. I hated all my roommates by the end of my stay too!

My niece is there now in the program. Absolutely hates it. It’s basically indentured servitude. It’s not a college program. It’s kids being used as cheap labor. Twelve hour shifts serving food. She leaves August 25 and is counting the days. I told her this is a good life lesson in corporate America and how they treat their employees. They are begging them to extend because they are so short handed. She said it only No but HELL NO.

I self termed 8 days ago after a little more than six weeks. My role was Recreation H/H on the Beam Team (Contemporary, Grand Floridian, Polynesian), and it was so boring. I am not above doing any type of hard work, but I wanted to be doing something worthwhile. I also wanted to see what a well run place was like, and take those classes you mentioned existed before Covid, but those course offerings were exactly as you described, and my location was not well run at all. I agree with everything you said, but I don't even see Covid as an excuse whatsoever. It is not March or April 2020, they have had two years to prepare for this!

From my perspective, as a full time WDW cast member, I see the CP as Disney looking for cheap(er) labor that's not covered by the union. I didn't realize that CP pay went up to 14. We're up to 15 now and before covid, I thought it was at 10 for CPs. The important thing for Disney is that they can have half the workforce get paid not quite as much as the full time/part time cast, that they won't have to deal with the union if they want to give you points and don't have to deal with union regulation on things like minimum/maximum hours or overtime, and that CPs won't get jaded because they're not there for years. And, of course, that CPs are grateful and happy to be there. When you've been working in Disney for years you get jaded. Which is fine, it's magical to me, but in a very different way than it was back when I first got to Florida. I am jaded, for sure, but I have a good time despite, and even perhaps BECAUSE of being jaded. And because I have the ability to transfer around, I'm never trapped in one spot forever. But CPs bring such a strong energy to the parks that's extremely unique to you guys and it's often extremely infectious. I honestly love CPs and the day that all the CPs were fired and kicked out was heartbreaking.

It's refreshing to get a pro/ con perspective of anything. This is a great video. Huge thumbs up.

I did the program in January 2022 to June 2022 and I honestly enjoyed it. I was able to adapt to bus routes and taking the bus up the road to the Super Target (definitely recommend it as it has a way bigger selection than the tiny Target up the road from the apartment). I also got lucky and had Merchandise at Animal Kingdom at Windtraders, and I seriously loved working with everyone there, everyone was friendly and funny and made the day go faster. But then with a month and a half left they "deployed" me to Mombasa and I finished my program there (was a mixed bag, was just as fun but Windtraders was my home). But the end made me annoyed, my leaders didn't know how my ID and such would work when I moved out on the 2nd (they take your ID and slef admission) so I had to end up having tjay fixed at the park so me and my mom could go. Overall I enjoyed the program and would maybe do it again and go into being a FT cast member, but you can't pick your roles like in the past. You're given a role where they need you. The program is what you make of it, it has its obvious flaws.

People will literally talk about working 12 hours a day on minimal pay with like one day off a week and go on about how magical it is 😭

Excellent video. Today's CP is vastly different than the one I completed in the 90's. We had a liaison that helped coordinate and mediate any issues with our working location. No one was working 60 hours a week unless they volunteered for it. Its sad to see that this has become such a shabby and pitiful program. It was a great time for me and I learned a lot working there.

Thank you for this video. I recently got accepted into the program, but ine=evitably decided that it wouldn't benefit me as much as I wanted it to. I work in Fast Food now, and I don't know how much more regular face-to-face customer service I can handle. I think that this video helped me feel more confident about my decision. I might reconsider in the future because being a Disney cast member does still seem cool to an extent. I'm not going to do it now! Also, this video had excellent background music, and I enjoyed the random edits; overall a good video!)

This explains my exact experience in a nutshell. I worked in Dinoland and the day of the party and had to work a 16 hour shift serving food to other CPs during my own party. Satellite parking was a monster, I never used my car.

I did the program in 1999 and got paid $6/hr and I think rent at Vista Way was $55/week. Times sure have changed. Great job on this video, it was a trip down memory lane for me.

this was so much more helpful than any vlog I've seen. Thank you!

I'm doing the college program starting this September, 2022! It's something I've wanted to do my whole life and I couldn't be happier that I got accepted! I'm glad you brought up the whole transportation situation. I wasn't going to bring a car anyway, especially not with these gas prices, so now I can be a little better prepared for figuring out the bus routes. I'm also so nervous to find out where I get placed cause we apparently don't find that out until about a week before our arrival date which is nerve=wracking. I also don't really know how picking what type of room you want works. I want to aim for the 2x4 set-up, but I don't know how early we can do that. Loved this video!

I did a professional internship (PI) and definitely would recommend it over a CP. I’m glad I waited until later in my college career and I got specialized experience in my field. I worked as a biotechnology intern at the land in epcot.

As a Spring '16 ESPN QSFB, Fall '16 Epcot Merch, and Spring '19 Sunset Attractions CP alum, I can say I had 3 entirely different programs. By 2019 I no longer recommended the DCP, but especially not in the post-Covid/Bob Chapek era. My rent was $120/wk at Vista, and I could bring my car. I am still a part-time CM (and actually worked fireworks/park clear with Nathan), and am starting my second degree with Disney Aspire, I would never recommend the DCP unless you have parents that pay for everything. CPs are treated like dirt by management, scheduling, coworkers, and guests. If you want to be a Cast Member, just apply as PT or FT, you get way more benefits and perks.

currently in my cp and this was so incredibly accurate!! great video man!

I literally just transferred to Mission: Space at the beginning of this month so I just missed you. I recognized a couple of the people in the pictures who I had as trainers.

I don't see how this experience qualifies as a college internship. Then again, if you don't really learn anything in college, why should your internship be any different.

This is so helpful! Thank you so much! I very much appreciate your honesty and humor, but you’re not biased or overdramatic.

I did my CP in 2016 and it was interesting watching this video from someone who did their CP in 2021. For me, there were a lot less rules. Housing sucked but I lived in Chatham and that was one of the better housing options. Vista way was cheaper but I heard so many horror stories of that housing complex. I also had to live in a triple so each room had 3 beds. Its funny hearing new CPs complain about flamingo crossing because that place is like a dream compared to old housing. We also didn't have that whole "you cant give away shifts as a CP" thing. We we're allowed to trade and give away shifts as a CP all the time. Rules about not being allowed to play in the parks after work by going from backstage to onstage also wasn't a rule in my program either. I was allowed to just slip onstage after work and play. And buses were always full during my CP too. Somethings dont change with that haha. Of course park reservations also werent a thing during my program either but that changed with covid. I think I was paid around $11 an hour during my DCP but I do remember working like anywhere from 40-70 hours a week depending on holidays. I worked Parade Audience Control (which apparently isnt a role anymore???) So I was always working afternoons meaning I didnt get to go to like any of the events. Chatham also had plenty of parking so we didnt have issues with parking. I didnt sign up for any classes and tbh I regret it because there was this cool one on the History of Disney and one of the classes did backstage tours of animal kingdom safari.

Interesting! Things have changed since my pink castle CP experience in Spring 97. Disney would come to our college and do a presentation then the next day do group interviews and 6 weeks later you would receive a letter in the mail. You couldn't pick your location but you could rank roles and explain your reasoning. There were 3 days of training (Traditions) before you were even told your location. I was in Fantasyland Merch. Loved my fellow co-workers. (most were not CP.) We just clicked. I didn't mind that we ranked last in shift choice because I was mostly working with the same people I enjoyed being with. It didn't matter we had to work grad nights from 1030 pm -6am because my co-workers were there. I didn't like being placed at a cart all day by myself. Our class time were called seminars and these were scheduled throughout the program. You had to attend all seminars. There was opportunities to do self learning but I found that was hard with scheduling work, seminars etc. I was able to get college credit through a different university and transferring the credits to my current university. I did have to write a paper on my experience as part of the credit. As for transportation on my program I did not come with a car. (2 roommates did.) We had 12 passenger vans. In order to be at work on time I would have to leave an hour before shift started. Usually when I got out at 2am I could find a ride back to Vista Way. In March of my program I ended up buying a car. We did not need a parking pass to park at Vista Way. I think I just needed to show them the registration etc. We always had to how our work ID to get into the complex. We didn't have many big events. I remember the ball. I had wanted to volunteer at Give Kids the World but that was filled up all the time. It was hard to get in with work schedules and everyone wanting to volunteer. I was able to volunteer once the last week of my program. You mentioned you might want to skip doing CP and apply for Prof. Internships but in order for me to get selected for my advanced internship you had to have had a successful college program. I went into my CP knowing that I wanted to do the Yes Program. I was campus rep in between my end of cp and in spring 2000 when I did the Yes program. The YES program was awesome. I was offered more magical opportunities working as part of the Disney Institute. We didn't live on Disney property and were required to have a car. My schedule was mostly very early (6:30) am but we were out by 3:30. I was able to volunteer at Give Kids the World every week and have the same schedule every week. One thing I've heard now is that cps are being blocked from spending time in the parks. Many days we would clock out and go play the rest of the day in the parks.

I did the program in Fall 2019 and it was... miserable and magical, but mostly miserable. From what I've seen, everything I struggled with (money/rent cost, work hours, administrative crap) seems to have reached an even worse point. But Flamingo does look a lot nicer than my Chatham bunkbed lol. I think the DCP is way too glorified on social media and people should be more authentic so applicants can make a more informed choice. I don't regret my program one bit, but I wish I'd known the realities outside of the Instagram photoshoots.

THIS is what people need to see, THANK YOU

That was a nice layout of information in this video. I am a former DCP from 2010. I was cool hearing your experience now that it has returned. Thanks for sharing. Have a Magical Day!

Considering going rent is $1900 for a 2/2…I’d take a 4/4 at $820 a month. Most places it’s double that (not including utilities or amenity fees) . Rent is steep my butt! That’s a steal!!!

hey! only 6 minutes in but as someone who may or may not have just started their program (/hj) my 4x4 is 225/week ... this is a super well made video btw!!

That's one thing that annoys me about parking. At my school the parking lots are small and cover multiple buildings so it's first come first serve. And they are very strict on who parks where (like students can't park in faculty) so if you can't find a space then you have to park on the other side of campus. For my school amd Disney you either should limit your people or making more parking spaces, especially since they have the means to do so. Like why don't they build lots or parking garages across the street or like a two minute walk. This is such an easy solution to the problem

why does NO ONE talk about parking?!?! it can really make your job hideous and since i live 30 minutes away i have to leave 2 hours early 🥴

Working at Disney as a full timer was eye opening. The backstage areas are so dirty and run down, the point system is brutal, interactions w guests can send you into a mental spiral. Not to mention it’s a glorified minimum wage job. The benefits are unique, but an annual pass is literally $19 a month rn. I’d take that 1M times over working there ever again

Nicely done. Great story telling.

People need to talk more about this. I will be applying for a CEP international but knowing some of this stuff is still relevant. I often watch a lot of 'why I left/termed my program'videos to try and keep myself aware and most of the time it's down to workload and people not realising the strain of working at theme parks (I've worked at the UKs top theme park for two years now in the most strained seasons the parks ever had so I get it's a lot of work) but this sort of thing like transport is definitely worth knowing and needs to be talked about more

This sounds like chaos! loved the vid

My daughter just drove home tp PA this morning because she was termed for having too many reprimands. The one that put her over the top was for when she got COVID. Leadership told her to call HR to get it removed which she did. HR was great. However leadership said COVID is not considered a Hazzard anymore and that HR should not have told her it would be removed. Leadership and HR are on different pages and gave her differing opinions. Leadership in general is on different pages, one saying one thing and one saying another. Her last day was supposed to be next week... why they felt the need to term her a week before her end date is beyond me. Not to mention she was told at 7 pm Wednesday night she was being termed and told she had only until 10am the next morning to vacate her Flamingo crossings apartment.. Her work hours were horrendous, she was never not on a late night schedule. She was always stressed about being late and getting points, always stressed about money ( almost no money in her paycheck once rent was taken out) , She was exhausted, could never see her friends and was too tired to participate in any of the Cast member extras. Her program was less then magical. Don't get me started on the roommate situation which FC was no help on. Despite the disappointment she made alot of magic for guests including Make a wish kids and she made a lot of friends and learned a lot of lessons. She is focusing on that. At first she was devastated now she is relieved and glad its over. Her mental health was shot. We are a huge Disney family and I'm a little disenchanted with the Mouse right now.

Definitely the most helpful video I’ve seen and I’ve been watching dozens. Thanks man.

Alum here Fall 2017-Spring 2018! Agree: Getting time off was a pain! The CP's before me ruined it for all CP's from there on out because they would give away shifts causing them not to have enough money for rent. Also with the location being a make it or break it. But its also how you make your experience. I also worked at Epcot (Electric Umbrella (rip)) and hours were crazy! I worked 12-14 hr shifts for 2 weeks straight no days off (CP gap). Amazing team and leaders, pay check was amazing with those hours, but I was definitely tired lol. When I extended I was merch at WOD and I got lucky again with coworkers and most leaders! I worked at the two locations most people would never want and I loved my experience lol! Disagree: Housing events. For this, idk how it is now, so I'm being bias lol. I remember housing events were fun and my location's leaders tried to get us out or try and take off (usually only for events like Winter Formal and DCP graduation) I'm going back to the DCP next week so I'm interested to see what they do now. Neutral: Pay. In all fairness interns are at the bottom of the food chain, and I have had internships that don't pay at all. It also beats my $10 pay :/ Rent is uber expensive compared to what I paid.

ill be doing this program in August! Thank you so much for this information and being informative!

I did the college program in 1991 and lived at Vista Way. No pools....pretty much no amenities and no events. But we still had a lot of fun. We were able to park at the apartment complex and drove to work with no issues. There were buses if needed. Interesting that you could have events but not classroom classes? Hmmmm.....Seems like this program has gone downhill since I was there.

It was a total cluster in 89…and it’s still a total cluster. I can’t believe they’ve gotten away with this ish for so long🤬

I was a cp in fall 2018-19 and spring 2020. There were so many changes from my first and second program and it’s so different now. I stayed in chatham and I really enjoyed the Disney housing complex set up. It didn’t feel like a dorm at all. I took one Disney class that was held at Chatham and I didn’t learn much. Most of the class was just learning Disney history. It’s also so insane to me that there’s no preference for what role you want on the application.

This was incredibly informative and helpful! Gave me much more clarity than the online forums I’ve read. I myself been accepted and am on the fence as to going.

YIKE. I was alright with 50 hours but 60-70 ?!

at least someone who owns the ORIGINAL MOUSEKETEER EARS (not the new ones with everything on them but the kitchen sinks and collected by those who follow fashions but are not real fans

I did the career start program back in 2006.... I sadly didn't get to do much Disney U classes...I worked at Wide World of sports and stayed at Buena Vista apartments.... during the 6 months we had some kids picked up in a girl selling sting... I had a roommate that drank a bottle of cough syrup to trip out and fought his manager at one of the parking lots and spent 2 days in the insane asylum and 2 days in jail before he came back to be the reason our apartment was strip searched for drugs he had. The parties in the apartments were insane!! Probably one of the best experiences but also really wild times! I have so many stories...lol.... I was able to work at both the waterparks and a few in park places including Pizza Planet while it was there.

This was so accurate and wholesome. Hard to watch as a DCP alumni before COVID, but the truth is appreciated. I wouldn't recommend the current DCP program to anyone, I miss how it was before. I loved my program, but lived offsite, got my preferred role, had my car, and got internship credit. It's not the same now.

thank GOD they raised the cp pay especially with the flamingo prices...in my fall 18 program, i was getting paid $9/hr as a park greeter lmao. worth it tho

It's slave labor basically. It's fun but they work you to death little pay, they take so much money for an apartment is not that much to operate.

This was totally great and accurate! Well done!

Morning @Nathan thank you for your review I was in DCP back in 2002-2003 program one year after 9-11. While many aspects were same as many were different. For myself I stayed at Vista Way there was only 3 housing complex at the time Vista Way, Chatham Square and Common I would say 70% of DCP all was in Vista Way so let say you moved out of apartment good example bad roommate issue you would just move in another one in Vista Way was very how to say challenging to go to Chatham Square as Common was only for the international people who worked World Showcase in EPCOT they have different contract, rules and guidelines and pay rate also then regular DCP. We were more than welcome to visit them as at the time we were force to leave the complex if we were visiting by 8-9 p.m. Most of DCP at the time worked in various roles in Magic Kingdom while it true as mention before they had Cast members in other 3 theme parks, hotels, Downtown Disney at the time, Water parks ect. The majority of cast members were all at Magic Kingdom. There were no block parties or events at the time. Vista Way rooms didn't have Smart TV we force to bring our own if no one had TV than no one would watch, was no wifi in the rooms. They did have computer lab with limited computers with the slowest computers you ever seen. Would take 45 minutes to take your email. Now one of pluses Vista Way had plenty of parking for everyone never had issue with that. The Walmart route was the same as you mention as bus system same also as they would pull up drop the people off and drive away without waiting when the drivers would sit at the tables all the time instead of driving. We were force to show ID all the time when we got on the bus as if did anything that drivers didnt like would make us wait for another bus or make us walk home. The pay was different was only $6.00 an hour 20 years ago as still took money out of check for rent. They did have Disney Classes then but didn't really learn or gain anything mainly they were just "Disneyifed" and that it was also another way just to take our money. We also had to pay to wash and dry our clothes back then also. There used to be weekly room inspection also of Vista Way.

I applied for the fall 2022. But I wasn't able to pay the fees on time so they canceled it. Im definitely going to reapply for next year. I wish Disneyland still did there's that way i could stay in California but it would be great to experience the Florida life

I heard mix reviews of DCP. Some liked it and some didn't. I think it depends on if the individual gets the role they want or not and if they get good roommates or not

The Disney branded bus transportation is also a third party. Even the now gone magical express service was an outside agreement. In many ways it makes sense both in logistics as well as the liability. A lot of the things you said sound like I'd expect from a service oriented job including the hours. Although for the demographic that applies having 40-60 hour weeks even if not consistently would be a wicked eye opener. Thanks for the video. My wife was in the program in the late 90s. Sounds like it's still more about wanting to be there. Wanting to have the experience. As well as the cast member perks. Looks like work for housing and you get the perks and visit a premium vacation spot on any free time you can manage to.

I did my CP in 2018 at Soarin. I will say that when I was there the PT & FT CMs were actually super friendly to CPs and were pretty welcoming

I was hired by Disney. I would have been with food and beverage. It was all good and I was even going to Disney World for a trip and after talking to a cast member who was also there for vacation I got the reality of working at Disney. My main hang up was cost of living in central Florida. How other cast members were living out of their cars. Getting gym memberships just for showers and hygiene upkeep. I had to pass on working there.

Wow. I did the program back in 1996. I was at Vista Way, and I had my own car. It was easy! You parked at Vista Way, and at the employee parking at Disney World. Period.

My location’s leaders HATED CPs so it was pretty miserable.

It’s changed so much since my 2017 program…

The DCP is very profitable to Disney and a blip on your resume.

Space 220 was badass surprised the food was good to but I couldn't imagine working there

Good stuff, Thanks for sharing.

Thank you for the indepth analysis on transportation!! How does anyone do this program without a car???

LMAO the parking struggles. I was mad just listening to it!! What. a. mess. Okay, also not being able to choose your role sucks. Do people get accepted and then not go? I would love to do certain roles but definitely not others.

New subby here. I enjoyed your commentary, and I agree with your dissatisfaction. Thank you for this video.

Thank you for an honest review.

I think not having any choice in what you get, especially since I have a disability is a hard pass for me. Like I applied but idk. This seems to make sense as the cast members at Disney seem upset and frustrated.😭

As terrible/awesome my experience was living in Vista I’m so glad I was a CP during that time.

4:36 were you allowed to get off to hop on the skyliner? I feel like that would be much faster

I worked at Mission Space and it seemed like the Full timers hated the turnover of CP's and having to get to know a new group every semester

I did the DCP a few years ago and I enjoyed it but overall feel mixed about it for those very reasons you mentioned

AMAZING VIDEO !

Nathaaan ur a fine speaker!

$14?!?!?! I did the CP in 2010 and made like $7 and rent was only like $20 less and our apartment was way worse. The work sucks but the experience is unmatched. No regrets.

If you get over 40 hours, You get time and a half. I used to think that was a bonus. Maybe it is different now. Not discounting it for folks who don't look at it that way. Love the inside look.

you were lucky to have your car in the vicinity. At my college, I had my car but had to park it 4 miles away and the only way to get it was waiting for a shuttle bus that only came 4 times during the day including weekends. If you missed the time, you would need to either uber, lift or walk back to the dorm. It's a privilege to have a car with you.

shout out to pecos for giving me 60 to 70 hours every week

I love this video, but I disagree about skipping the DCP in favor of doing the Professional Internships instead. I’ve met a lot of Disney PIs and full-time non-park workers who were able to get their internships/jobs because they networked through their time on the DCP and were able to include it on their resume! I’ve also applied for over 20 PIs myself and never got in, but I just got accepted to the DCP. For a lot of people, the PIs are much harder to get into unless you have a jam-packed resume, because they only accept 1 or 2 people per position.

It sounds like a horrific experience!

this was so helpful & funny!!!

It's possible the $175/week, 2 bed, 2 bath apartment is currently $191.

I really enjoyed your video and insights, however your music volume level nearly drowns you out and makes it hard to hear you.

@7:27 I was literally yelling at the screen "that's some bullsh!t" wow...How...how was that approved? How did someone sign off on that...Like someone looked at that plan and said "yup. that's good... enough....i guess....idk, it's not my problem..."

Best video of the program ever!

I just applied and have my phone interview tomorrow and this is making me very skeptical about finishing the process..... 😬😬😬

75 HOURS? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO DO? I would be calling out

Didn't know you can leave your car in the water parks parking lot. It had a decal so it wouldn't be towed?

The real question.. how many times did you see guests throwing up on Mission Space???

I wonder if the difficulty getting time off is worst due to present staff shortages.

Very helpful

I recently accepted a professional internship position. To what degree should I worry these same critiques apply to PI positions?