A Case for Clementi: Educational and Musical Genius

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AuthenticSound

AuthenticSound

6 жыл бұрын

A few days ago, I've uploaded a complete recording of Clementi's Sonatinas opus 36. You had asked me to record his famous Sonatina in C Major since a very long time, so I decided finally not only to record that one little famous piece, but the whole bundle.
Again, it confirmed my view that Clementi might be one of those composers that history has forgotten too much. In this video, I'm making the case for Clementi a bit, for his sonatinas, and for the genius in general. Because on his best, he truly is the equal of composers like Haydn, Beethoven or Mozart.
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@Clavichordist
@Clavichordist 6 жыл бұрын
Clementi became a staple in my music diet when I was around 13 years old. My first teacher nearly ruined the Sonatinas for me sadly due to the typical music teacher who has to give out the works because the student is at that age and stage in their musical journey rather than to introduce them as beautiful keyboard works to enjoy. She had had me play them without emotion as though I as beating them because she was probably bored with teaching them. A few years later I was studying with another teacher who took the pieces from a different approach, and rather than hating them as I banged through them I enjoyed them immensely. Today these pieces along with the rest of his sonatas are something to marvel. They're not just beautiful they're also fun and enjoyable to play. In them are nuggets of Beethoven, Haydn, and even sometimes Mozart, but mostly Beethoven who admired Clementi and was influenced by his music.
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Great to read as always, John
@dkblack3461
@dkblack3461 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to read. It's amazing how much of an effect a good or bad teacher can have on our love of music, or any subject really! :)
@jackhousman6637
@jackhousman6637 6 жыл бұрын
His fourth symphony is a "MUST HEAR" work.
@edelcorrallira
@edelcorrallira 6 жыл бұрын
Mozart Nocturnes??? :O (...had he lived as long as Clementi...) Wim, that thought brings me a joy beyond description. Thank you very, very much for leading your viewers, to such an interesting avenue of thought. Excellent as always !
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
That's nice to read Eduardo!
@michaelreaper666
@michaelreaper666 6 жыл бұрын
Thats great Wim ...the Clementi sonatinas are great .. well played .. :)
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 6 жыл бұрын
I was not familiar with Clementi until you uploaded your recording of the sonatine, which I enjoyed very much. They have renewed my interest in piano practise after I started exploring them today. It's almost scary how well your discussion in the video matches my own thoughts.
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Great to read! Frequencies of thoughts are scary sometimes, but a great human thing as well
@margreetdebrie8739
@margreetdebrie8739 6 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of Clementi until about 6 months ago when someone suggested the sonatinas as suitable for 'advanced beginners'. These pieces are absolutely brillant and have everything I could wish for. Beautiful music that is a joy to pay, techncally in the"Goldilocks" zone (not too easy and not too difficult, but just right), excellent practice for sight-reading and not all that difficult to memorize. I think they sound even more charming and beautiful on a clavichord.
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Great to read Margreet
@evanofelipe
@evanofelipe 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing these ideas
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@SimoneBattaglia94
@SimoneBattaglia94 6 жыл бұрын
The sonatinas are really beautiful. I studied 3 of them and it was a real pleasure. I wonder if you ever read through Handel's Great 8 suites. They are in my opinion one of the highest points of baroque keyboard music and are very interesting from the perspective of keyboard technique (some pieces are really difficult and require a great handspan!). I am suggesting this because the joy and elevation I get from playing and listening to that music is absolutely immense! I can find in them almost every single affect, every extrovert or introvert feeling, every public or intimate message.
@SimoneBattaglia94
@SimoneBattaglia94 6 жыл бұрын
By the way, just for you to know: "Muzio" is spelled "Mootzio" . ;)
@Hwyadylaw
@Hwyadylaw 6 жыл бұрын
Muzio is *spelled* "Muzio", but *pronounced* "Mootzio" (IPA: /mut͡sjo/)
@SimoneBattaglia94
@SimoneBattaglia94 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the correction and for providing the IPA pronounciation!
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
I'm already struggling so much with "my" English :-). But thanks for the italian tip!
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion! No I haven't read these ones before, some other larger suites I plan for a long time to play, but not these ones: imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/1/1b/IMSLP111327-PMLP44355-Handel_-_Suites_de_Pieces_(Cluer_1720).pdf Great suggestion, will put them on my list!
@rogerherbison4124
@rogerherbison4124 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your channel! Just found it..... Did I not read that Clementi and Mozart had a keyboard "duel" like the old west? Clementi walk away as the winner! And who is the household name today? Herr Mozart! Is there not room at the table for Mr. Clementi today?
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Roger, welcome here! Yes, Clementi deserves much more attention. Few years ago I made a video on that duel, would do it different today, but for what it's worth, here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6hjZ7GaldeUgH0.html
@robin-hr9up
@robin-hr9up 6 жыл бұрын
Startds at 3:23
@MatescoCZ
@MatescoCZ 6 жыл бұрын
I play piano for 3 years so doing your little improvisations during repetitions is something extremely difficult for me. I would like to know if you prepare them and train them before adding them to the piece or it's just so simple for you that do not even think about it. I can do these little improvisations when I play popular music on piano but I don't have the complex understanding in classical music yet.
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
For a recording I do plan some of them, to avoid the risk of editing more than necessary... it is however, always a kind of risk one takes, also to me! Some are very good in it, others more focused on other elements. Though it might feel natural after a while, you have to practice this in order to get them in your fingers. And remember that you do not need to do a lot to make a certain impact!
@jackhousman6637
@jackhousman6637 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Wim: I think "miniaturist" is the word you're looking for. It is used to refer to miniaturist painters, and so forth.
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
thanks jack!
@DaveMuller
@DaveMuller 6 жыл бұрын
Who thumbs down these videos?? Has to be a mis-click
@AuthenticSound
@AuthenticSound 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know, it started a few months ago, has much to do with my tempo-approach, some HIP'sters are quite fanatic it seems. But that is the life on internet, and the good thing here is that KZfaq doesn't care. Thumbs up or down means engagement, and that is being regarded in both cases as very positive :)
@incontrariomotu8902
@incontrariomotu8902 11 ай бұрын
I am really glad you speak so highly of the Father of the Pianoforte, but it should be stressed that the Sonatine are only a very tiny part of his output, which encompasses 100 sonatas. I am afraid that, historically, only focusing on his educational works (including the Gradus) has caused the rest to be neglected, and that is an utter shame. This, combined with Mozart’s unfair comments contributed to build an image of Clementi as little more than a skilled teacher, whereas today it can be clearly seen that his best sonate are way more interesting and progressive than those of many of his contemporaries, including but not limited to his illustrious Christmas Eve’s rival, who on the other hand had a much more conservative approach and thus never really understood Clementi’s revolutionary technique. Fortunately, Beethoven and all his major contemporaries recognised Clementi’s importance from the very beginning, and took in all they could. This influence resonates in all late classical and romantic literature, and it would be impossible to imagine the modern piano without his pivotal contribution.
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