Haha , yup armchair engineers are the best !

Yes that's why I'm critical of looks, wireless shifting only and the historically promising Specialized proprietary shock, I won't ride it for awhile since I don't want or feel the need to demo that thing. 💀

I’ve no doubt it’s an awesome riding bike - I just don’t want the bs of anything electric on my bike. I want to leave my house and leave all that shit behind me and not think “oh f*ck I forgot to charge this this and this”

its not. lower end gx wireless is cheap.

​@@dft1 its more so about the reliability of cables vs wireless. Guaranteed there will be plenty of occasions after long ride you forget to charge your batteries. So those times you wanna go for those last minute after work rides only for your battery not to have enough juice. Clearly a huge mistake for specialized not to make room to install routing spaces for your shifter cables.

@@dft1 @SubversionGarage said nothing about cheap vs expensive - some people just do not want batteries on their bikes

You copy and paste bastard😂😂😂 mates spot on

You don’t have to use that shock and personally I’m not going back to mechanical. I love it. Shimano is behind with the wireless for now. I don’t personally understand why people are so stuck on mechanical. It’s harder to maintain.

@@kentao4 can you elaborate on how mechanical is harder to maintain? I ask as I've no batteries on my bike - i squeeze the tires and go

@@skibum1976 when you’re gear shifting gets out of whack, it’s the click of a button vs needing tools to adjust or tighten the cabling. I’m not saying it’s a prominent issue. I’m saying when it happens, it’s an easier fix in my experience. It’s definitely faster shifting especially under load.

@@kentao4I can appreciate that and you taking the time to reply, but still i have no issues with XTR shifting: it’s extremely rare that I need to make an adjustment and on top I’ve no battery.

Non-proprietary shock can be fitted. Wireless shifting only is a surprise though for sure, though could always zip tie a cable on in a pinch..

Just drill a few holes in that shit, like in a crappy old frame when you want to install dropper seatpost in it x)

Im sure there will be more than a few done like that in the future. They are really messing with us on this one, i like my drivetrains cheap and chearful Deore. ​@@TheLoamWolf

@@ryansmith7974if you want cheap and cheerful the alloy frame will have cable shifting.

How’s it backwards? It’s literally not allowing old tech lol.

No

I remember when the trend were fat tires 2.6+ but it seems like 2.4 are the standard now.

What makes wireless shifting one of the worst advancements? Everyone I know that has it, loves it.

@@SomeOldDudeMTB You should try riding one. I found it to be sluggish, plus you're disconnected from what's happening, so can't moderate power vs. shifting as accurately. Also, if you forget to charge it, the ride is done. The derailleur cable can fail, sure - but can be fixed in the field.

@@TheBabylonJohn I've been using SRAM's AXS for 2 years and prefer it over my my mechanical shifters on my other bikes. All positive for me with zero negatives, ok maybe one..the battery. It lasts long enough though so never had an issue.

The s4-s6 expert is specced with a 200mm pnw components dropper

Bro, I have a 210mm One-up dropper on my Stumpy Evo and can even go to a 220. Don't know what dropper brand you're using but maybe worth looking at One-Up?

Thank you!

new coils has air bottom out, pretty nice

Charles Murray races it in enduro and doesn't use cascade link.

Not a huge amount to seperate it from the previous gen EVO on paper, but it’s been tweaked here and there to improve its performance. And the new GENIE shock is pretty sweet.

Also, they ditched the asymmetric frame support but kept the yoke which I hate on my Evo. I went with a Hightower instead of the SJ15 based on the above, and not wanting a 38 on a 150mm bike. Also, I’m over matte paint. Absolutely a pain to maintain.

⁠​⁠@@justinfournier1285lol you hate all the things I put specialized above the rest for! I absolutely hate gloss. I just wrap them. This should pedal better than the evo and that’s what I’m worried about.

@@kentao4 I have a matte Evo and a matte Fuse, but the Ridewrap in matte changes the colour. So you can very easily see where the gaps in the panels are. Gloss hides much better. Matte you can’t remove scratches from and every rub on it becomes a semi-gloss streak. Where you rub against the frame when you ride goes semi gloss, it just looks a lot more beat up. I can deal with that but I really don’t want another yoke bike. I don’t want to say the yoke is ok now with the Genie shock so it’s ok, because the genie is trying to make an air shock perform closer to a coil and I already have a coil on my Evo @ 157cm. My evo is setup all mountain. Moving closer to trail category I have a 145cm Hightower and a 120mm Trail 429 Enduro. All of the above are custom builds. So why do a SJ15 now? Ugh. I was stoked for an Evo replacement. Guess I’ll wait for the Enduro

@@justinfournier1285 my evo is matte too. I hear what you’re saying but still like how it looks better. I hear you about the evolution of replacement. I’m actually trying to have a single bike closer to all mountain and then all day pedaling. Evo is good but hopefully that genie shock helps me get closer to a one bike to truly do everything. I’m not as hard core for an enduro. I’m heavier at about 220 and just wanted a beefier bike. I’m really deciding between the epic evo and the stumpy.

That is a good point. It's a nice when you first buy a bike to have a high end derailleur, but after it eventually gets broken, I usually just go with something that works. No way I'd want to be shelling out that kind of money to replace a derailleur.

It’s better. No sidearm = ever other bike

Still a great bike thankfully!

Would you care to expand on this? Looks like a solid trail bike. Yeah it can alienate people with no option for mechanical derailleur, but most people just ride the bike as it's built anyway. Obviously they'll lose some prospective buyers who only want to run a cable operated drive train. On the other hand they'll win over a lot of people who wanted to try SRAM transmission, but can't afford it on low end builds. The SJ comp is only $100 more than a SJ evo comp MSRP.

I’ve never heard someone unironically say bidenomics. It’s more cringe that way than ironically.

@@Kovacs-sf1hi so you're a soy biden boy?