I'm actually surprised at the framing of this video and Even Peterson's own framing. The guy is a bum on the surface but is actually seeking some redemption which is worthy of respect. Judging someone without offering a hand with dignity only serves to keep them in the hole they find themselves in.

But let's be honest, even with the will to change after becoming a parent, the guy is facing the desert, still covered in his mother's birth mucus. Ofc i like to believe the kid will have a decent upbringing, but yeah with no context but this, i am worried.

@@hiswordremains true. The more so if a person show's honest inniciative. His desire to protect his own kid shows empathy on his side as well I believe. Asking for help can require courage. It took me over a decade myself to seek some pro counceling (as I was afraid of being judged). When I finally did, it helped me change my life for the better fast(er) then ever. As for the councelling-style: I think you need to trust your "mentor" first of all. If you found that fundament, the amount of "tough love" should depend on your needs. My guy was able to be super straight forward with me even with uncomfortable truths and I always appreciated it because A: he was never personal (100%pro) or emotional (besides his beautiful humor) and B: his insights were almost always crystal clear and objectifaly right on the money. So my response usually was: "that's true!" while mentally feeling relieved.

@@coffeepot3123 be that as it may: I believe he and the kid will be better of with the support of pro counceling than without it.

@@hiswordremains Yet, apparently he helped this guy out of his malaise, his inability to do even the smallest tasks. The first step to healing is the realisation and admission that you have been a failure, that you are avoiding responsibility and you don't wan to live that way any longer. You can gain strength by knowing your weaknesses and then defeating them, one step at a time but you have to know what those weaknesses are. That's never going to be easy.

True. But those with mental health issues (especially well masked and undiagnosed) is a whole other matter, and usually what's behind so many who "fail to launch" these days.

This story is also in his 12 rules of life book. He probably asked for permission or its so obscure a detail there is no way anyone could be identified. Not being able to vacuum your room is probably a common experience of anyone struggling in the bottom.

@@gormenfreeman499 you beileive that multiple peole happen to go to him and that those people all put a vacuum in their door way and stepped over it for a week? The fact he is telling the story as an extreme example shows this is not a common occurence

@@gormenfreeman499 I found the steps to be very helpful because they can apply to a broad range of behaviors I would like to change in my own life. I agree with you, many people down and out would struggle with basic things like cleanliness, personal hygiene and hearing something like this can give people the help/hope they need. Anyone who cant grasp this is either very ignorant or just a jerk.

not really roasting its genuinely good advice unless your gonna tell tough love as roasting

@@SplinteredX ahh yes tough love, the thing everyone wants out of a therapist 🙄

"Now I am winning, and it feels so good. And sure winning is tiring, but I am not tired yet"

how r u now?

@@UTAH100 awesome 👍

@@brambledemon1232 Great to hear!

so true, whenever I find myself angry or depressed, I try to find a small task to do, could be anything like looking up a math problem. The task pulls me out of that dangerous inward thinking.

Yea it'd be a street just on the outskirts of Eden and our kids would trying to knock the snake off the tree limb using a half eaten apple.

Well said.

Like me

Very sorry to say but those are the ones who want the government (the surrogate mommy and daddy) to take care of them. The complete opposite of our founding fathers. So sad.

My girlfriend's son can't get out of bed without her telling him it's time to get up. He's 22 years old and is amazingly similar to the useless bastard description here.

@@billb89 At least he gets up when he's told, He probably shouldn't have to but whatever. At least he gets up

@@billb89 Stop paying for his internet/cable.

In contrast to the missing source quotation... So much video clips do not provide the source. It makes the further research so much more inconvenient. Is it on purpose?

It’s easy to ruin a good video with music. This music isn’t that bad, but it’s still distracting

​@@cowtowngangsta it's like video gaming music for the side quests. Completely undermines the point of the video.

Your statement was not needed. And yet here we are 😉

and the cheap reverb lol

🙏🏻

Well yes, an eloquent speaker, but he had plenty of time to practice and watch an audience's reaction. This story about a the vacuum cleaner is very old. This ties neatly into Peterson's final message, that practice makes you better.

??? Are you deaf? So you think a medical professional in the psychological field should be actively calling a client a useless bastard? When clearly the patient has some sort of executive functioning issue. Also the simplistic model that he used for "helping someone in therapy" is to have them imagine what life would be like "better" and making steps towards that? Everybody's life would be infinitely improved by having endless money. How's he gonna help you with that? Fucking please. Man just loves the sound of his own voice

It is a great privilege indeed❤

For you. Perhaps.

LOL

@@dolceanstar Not for me as I don't actually need therapy. How're your mental health issues? Making any progress?

@@stuartmc18 It wasn't me imagining having Peterson as a shrink, it was you. My mental health? Better than you'll ever know!

Best life coach anyone could get.

💖

Tiny habits is a great book. I neuroscientist wrote it. It has helped me a lot.

Btw, Be careful of worshiping anybody or anything

Be careful he has become kinda frail with all this weakness surrounding him.

@@coronaphone710 a fair point.

​@@coronaphone710I hope not. He has proven to be a strong man with solid foundations and a superior intelligence❤

I am right along side of you! 😍

You are among friends. Any forward progress is good progress. I’m proud of you 👍🏻

Thanks for the comments. It felt reassuring. Love to yall.

Quite very right...

And they use capitals when lower case works just fine.! 😺

@@user-im9ov9ud7m Attention grabbing tho no??🤔🤔😉

@@user-im9ov9ud7m Our frustration with upside-down world is doubling, as Dr. Peterson put it.

@@user-im9ov9ud7m Would you have preferred Howard Beale to whisper “I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take this anymore “? No, he needed to shout it.

That's exactly what he is not supposed to do (as a therapist). You need to realize on your own that it's time to clean your room. Perhaps his mere presence would let you remember all sorts of things that you need to do, so the imagination checks out.

@@antonk.653 He did emphasize that the proposed actions should be part of the 'solution' be fully embraced by the client. That does not preclude the therapist making suggestions.

​@antonk.653 how large is your practice? How many patients have you seen? How successful do you think your therapy has been for them?

@@dbmail545 Ad hominem attack, get out of here! We both can agree that Peterson himself said in the video that a therapist isn't supposed to tell the patient what to do, but to at most guide the exploration for the patient themselves. This was my point: Do not tell people to clean their room, let them discover why it's in their own interest.

Damn. I'm 27 and I feel like we have very similar mothers. What advice would you give someone like me

If you ask me, you both think too much, just do the task the chores and work that's needs to be done for the day and do not think too much about it. Leave your feelings out of it and get your work done.

​@@hardwired4548 yea exactly cuz if you wait and wait until you realize whats the cause of your problems you will be a useless bastard in your 40s and done nothing with yourself

JP's approach, as he says, is to get the person first to identify their fundamental issue and then help them figure out their first steps towards improving...so for you, your issues and steps to resolving them may not be hoovering your room...deep down you both know what steps you can take ..start small with those..and keep on trying irrespective of the number of times you don't quite get there

@@9ckr716 You and frank480 suffer from something called Learned Helplessness. You need to engage again in the very things you've been conditioned to believe is impossible, because they aren't impossible. You've simply been conditioned. You're going to fail, and that's fine. It doesn't make you a failure. Keep trying, slowly.

Maybe he wasn’t famous then

parents who do everything for their kid are not just dumb and incompetent...they want the kid to be forever dependent on them like a pet that'll never them

@@mitchhaynes1744 Assuming any of this is even true at all to begin with. Talking about a patient online is heavily frowned upon for good reason.

Calling him a useless bastard i front of millions isn't kind, he's a psychopathic bully roleplaying.

@@LenaKZfaq You're fuvcking clueless if you think that's psychopathic behavior, it's a humbling honesty that men need and respond to.

Was it too tight?

@@WildTrek 🤣

Lose the extra O next time.

you said you're loose to music ? makes sense if you're a stripper i guess.

There was a live quartet playing in the corner of the studio.

Some live weird co-dependent relationships with their parents..

thats normal for women, not men tho

I wonder what Jordan Peterson's psychological problems are that he is hiding from us?

Hire a cleaner!

Whenever you learn something new, neurons fire in new ways - you are literally changing your neurology by hearing something. When a coach motivates you, he literally changes your neurology with speech. Depression isn't just a result of "chemical imbalance"... there is something within the individual which leads to dissatisfaction and later to depression. So you can change almost anything in a person with "just speech" and/or new experience (it's put too simply, but you know what you mean). You'll see that the laziest and weakest person will get their shit together when life pushes them to the brink of extinction. Most people don't change because they get something out of their disease (the person in the video was void of stress and responsibility and could just remain in their comfort zone - until something drastic happened that pushed them into new territory). I'm guessing you probably mean some heavy neurological shit - like brain trauma or certain extreme neurological diseases. But you would be surprised how much the brain can regulate it's own neurochemistry and create changes.

@@LordEmilous Indeed - yeah but my point is that serious brain injuries can effect certain brain areas leading a person to appear functional when they have a serious impairment which can have a specific manifestation. While what you're saying is true for many people, the brutal wake up call doesn't work on people who will as a consequence of damage simply react by having a stress induced psychotic episode. My experience: the mental health system fails you comically - but there are great people the last therapist I'd spoken with was pretty much a mind reader and so Agree with what you're saying.

@@rterminatu I agree that mental health system if very poor... in most cases they treat you like a a diseased person and fill you up with pills.... while for some people, all they need is some compassion and therapy work.... I do agree with your point on brain injuries, I do think, however, they are far between people who are just lost and the system can't help them (except give them drugs).

@@LordEmilous Agree. I also think it has to simmer away for awhile afterwards. You don't just walk away from a counseling session instantly a new man - you have to sleep on it - let it tick away for a bit.

LOL

Best comedy of all time, IMO.