A Conversation Long Overdue (In Response to the Chaim Walder Nightmare) - Rabbi Shlomo Katz

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Shlomo Katz

Shlomo Katz

2 жыл бұрын

Today was one of the most dreadful days for many many parents, and children for that matter. In these seven minutes, I invite you to join me in a space we seldom visit, but at this current time, can’t afford not to.
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@marjoriemelzer5409
@marjoriemelzer5409 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your authenticity and being so transparent Lots to think about and to daven Zein matzlach in all you do for your family and Klal Yisroel
@MsHannahFlower
@MsHannahFlower 2 жыл бұрын
I think it should be in reverse- first we protect the innocent and have hard conversations about hidden traumas in the community, and then we sit in conversation with God once we have taken every action we can to bring justices to the situation and prevent further atrocities.
@patrickfinley1889
@patrickfinley1889 2 жыл бұрын
I was just doing a search for some of your music and came across this - As a Catholic..I fully understand what you are wrestling with with this. You are brave Rabbi
@dovidbrody2447
@dovidbrody2447 2 жыл бұрын
@R' Shloma you mentioned the Layers of purity that slowly gets Peeled away as evrey child comes into the world, what I've come to learn is that the purity stays as pure as it is, it's unchanging, however rather it's layers that get added, and can be Peeled away to come back to who we are. Shalom Ubracha
@leahblau3333
@leahblau3333 2 жыл бұрын
Dovid Brody.That's so nice!
@kaugustson
@kaugustson 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this MOST DIFFICULT SUBJECT! May HASHEM GREATLY BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!
@ALEXGIBSONCMG
@ALEXGIBSONCMG 2 жыл бұрын
Im so sorry to hear this, you have my love and support brother.
@ALEXGIBSONCMG
@ALEXGIBSONCMG 2 жыл бұрын
And everyone in the community for that matter
@benassayag9722
@benassayag9722 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your heart with us עם ישראל חי💕
@celestefiddes6137
@celestefiddes6137 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being brave enough to address this. Heart breaking, devastating.
@estymendyr8175
@estymendyr8175 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for talking about this objectively ❤🙏without gossiping about facts we don't know, love your heart
@davidr321
@davidr321 2 жыл бұрын
Wise words
@kaugustson
@kaugustson 2 жыл бұрын
One more statement here: You can’t know how you’ve helped so many other parents who are going through this extremely difficult situation by opening up and exposing the darkness! Light exposes darkness! BARUCH HASHEM for using you to help not only yourself but others as well!
@anonymousanonymous-qx7mv
@anonymousanonymous-qx7mv 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question... how is it that parents allowed young children to go to therapy ALONE...esp females. Did they not know about yichud?
@majidamd2375
@majidamd2375 2 жыл бұрын
Shalom all I Love Jews
@idelmaheichele-guinzo.1974
@idelmaheichele-guinzo.1974 2 жыл бұрын
Boker Tov! Buenos dias Shlomo. Podrias por favor ponerle otra cara a este video, no tienes que cambiar el video completo, me rrefiero a la Portal nada más.Todah! No es porque no me agrade tu cara, te admiro mucho! Es que haces feliz cuando se te ve alegre. puedo entender por el contenido de este. Que Hashem te bendiga y te proteja siempre en todo lo que haces. Shalom Uvrajot para ti y tu familia. Te deseo con todo mi corazón que nunca estes enojado y mucho menos triste. Amén! 🔥❤🇮🇱
@motivationalfitness1
@motivationalfitness1 2 жыл бұрын
What if we could be honest with our kids? Teach them about what we know about abusers. Perpetrators of abuse have a patterns. Unfortunately one of the traits of an abuser is not being able to admit when they have made a mistake. Lovingly we can tell our children, Hashem always wants us to return. Being able to admit mistakes is a healthy behavior that perpetrators of abuse lack. So sad that even in his death he blame shifted responsibility for his actions. He clearly was a very sick and broken man. Hashem should wipe away the tears from all, bring healing to those that were abused and give us the strength to teach our children right from wrong.
@leahblau3333
@leahblau3333 2 жыл бұрын
motivationalfitness1.How come You are so confident of the truth? Like me you probably don't know him or anyone else involved,And we have halocha,so how come You are more convinced he's guilty than me?!
@Bear_Arms
@Bear_Arms 2 жыл бұрын
The internet is changing the Haredi world, that's what's going on here, and that's a great thing. Thirty years ago this case would've been kept quiet, today these cases are being put out in the open due to the internet.
@randiwaxman8412
@randiwaxman8412 2 жыл бұрын
Just say, " I don't know." You can do it!
@yaakovrothman547
@yaakovrothman547 2 жыл бұрын
Suprise and shock are what I took away from your video. For me, I laughed when I heard about it. Not a joyous laughter, but one that is embedded in my nilisim. This is what I teach my children; I find that when you view people as a portion of G-d above you'll be disappointed, but when you view people as plan animals and that animal does something G-dly randomly... wow... Gevaldik. May G-d surprise us with good news.
@paulwebhandlemcgranite698
@paulwebhandlemcgranite698 2 жыл бұрын
Moshiach will make sure that atrocities like that no longer happen children will no longer have to fear such inhumane things
@laurablair1061
@laurablair1061 2 жыл бұрын
Protect your children as the precious gifts they are; then men like Chaim won't be able to prey on them
@leahblau3333
@leahblau3333 2 жыл бұрын
Laura Blair We both don't know the truth.If you want to offer help to any 'victims',feel free ,otherwise let's keep quiet.
@diaryofanotdgirl89
@diaryofanotdgirl89 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t just groom these girls or women…. He groomed the families, his family, the community as a whole…. It’s about time we faced up to what is going on with too many rabbis and kids….
@leahblau3333
@leahblau3333 2 жыл бұрын
Diary of an OTD girl.Let's not give someone more power than is true.Easy to get carried away.
@Mrscreamcheeselover
@Mrscreamcheeselover 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this isnt rare it's just rarely brought to the forefront
@idelmaheichele-guinzo.1974
@idelmaheichele-guinzo.1974 2 жыл бұрын
Como te amo! ❤🔥🇮🇱💗
@marcos76801
@marcos76801 2 жыл бұрын
O que houve?
@DaveKers
@DaveKers 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not intimately familiar with these kids books or the author. But taking an outsider’s perspective, my instinct leads me to believe that his books must’ve had good ideas in them, which is why they were so popular. Perhaps those good ideas should remain good, while the flaws of the author should be separated from his ideas.
@ydubin
@ydubin 2 жыл бұрын
That is never possible, especially with his name on the book, especially because he wrote of morals etc.
@dbouzy
@dbouzy 2 жыл бұрын
Great point . As a Great Sage (R Meir back Haness , I think , said , “take the fruit and throw away the peel “ Many in the world do this . In Jewish (mysticism) especially , the energy of the source is still affecting the reader . The latter being last in the list to be affected but still .. If the author is not waking the talk , it isn’t going to be appropriated by any orthodox seal of approval for publishing either . Thank goodness! Or all types of bozos would turn into Babas ! So you can throw out the husk if the author is only harvesting ideas in a book , while still reading it quickly. That’s what I understand to do for myself . To each his own capacity. Praying that nothing will harm us and that we elevate everything we should , Hashem Wiling for all.
@leahblau3333
@leahblau3333 2 жыл бұрын
Yisrael Dubin.It Is Possible.Are you one of the alleged victims.no? So stop talking about that which you know nothing.
@danielepstein8755
@danielepstein8755 2 жыл бұрын
Your response is all drash not pshat. The pshat is that there are some adults who want to harm children and we have to teach children to tell their parents or another trusted adult if ever someone touches them in inappropriate ways. AND at the same time, the Jewish community especially the frum community needs to address sexual abuse and sexual addiction is not isolated but permeated throughout the community as an illness that needs to be addressed and treated....these are not isolated incidents to be surprised by. These are mental health and legal issues to be prioritized by the community.
@ShlomoKatzMusic
@ShlomoKatzMusic 2 жыл бұрын
shalom daniel, of course it's drash.
@danielepstein8755
@danielepstein8755 2 жыл бұрын
​@@ShlomoKatzMusic Rabbi, you are so respected and could have a great positive impact by reinforcing this is a wider problem the community needs to address.
@ShlomoKatzMusic
@ShlomoKatzMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielepstein8755 I couldn't agree with you more. This initial post was not meant to address the tremendous amount of damage control which has already begun. this post was to acknowledge the devastating and impossible reality parents must be facing with this initial shock. Part of the problem I am addressing is that we tend to seek immediate decisions. sometimes that may okay, but in this devastating situation we are all in, I am hoping that a certain humbling takes place in our mindset, a humbling which forces us to admit that we need help.... and a lot of it. It is going to take more than whatever we think. The damage here is really that grave.
@danielepstein8755
@danielepstein8755 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShlomoKatzMusic I get it. I just happen to believe the humbling, the urgency of this moment cannot come without an acknowledgement that "Houston, we have a problem."
@ShlomoKatzMusic
@ShlomoKatzMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielepstein8755 I'm with you
@roselipereira5069
@roselipereira5069 2 жыл бұрын
Eu entendo pouco mais se alguém magoou você e sua família ;magoou a mim também;Nimguem põe ponto final onde Hashem põe vírgula !sempre Israel.
@ALEXGIBSONCMG
@ALEXGIBSONCMG 2 жыл бұрын
This should have gone to court, there should have been an investigation. We need to stop jumping to conclusions blindly. We don't know the truth between these two individuals and they both take the truth with them to the grave. So many people are saying "it happened, it didn't happen" but who was there? Where's the evidence? Why leave? Just because someone left the earth isn't proof of innocence or guilt of either party, and it would have been better to know the truth. Now we'll never know, and that hurts the most. "Listen and believe" is nonsense people lie, but one is a shlmiel if they think a predator wouldn't lie either, this is why we need proof before we act. Now two Jews are gone and we really don't know why. Maybe she left because she felt guilty that he left because of what she said when all she wanted was to depose him for his political and ideological views, maybe it was because she couldn't deal with people mourning her abuser, maybe he left because he knew he lost control and was being exposed, maybe he left because his life was being ruined by a lie. All we can do is guess now, and if we guess, maybe we're wrong, and to be wrong about something of this magnitude, whether for or against, is itself a sin of magnitude. I think we should talk about this, but we should be careful not to assert any falsehoods, because making a mistake on this kind of thing, were talking about lives ruined, whether his or hers, who was in the wrong. This is why truth above all is important. We need to stay in the hard facts, and deal only in what can be known for certain. IF he did these things it would have been right to have him go to trial, to have him serve his time, do tshuvah, get therapy and treatment, and maybe just maybe we could have pulled a fellow jew out of a boiling pit of feces, out of the jaws of Gehenna, and maybe got justice for a poor girl who was suffering. IF it was slander, if this was an organized campaign, then the perpetrators involved could have served thier time, done tshuvah, gotten proper counseling, and saved from the same. Now all we can do is rummage through the ashes and hope some answers are there so we can get closure. Instead of listen and believe, we need listen and investigate. Instead of "this is just slander" it should be "is this just slander?" I see alot of people on both sides jumping to conclusions but no one knows what happened here. All the victims of abuse, and all the victims of libel in this community all have my support, and i hope we can the closure this case deserves, for all who lost in this horrible tragedy.
@davidbobo9740
@davidbobo9740 2 жыл бұрын
More than 20 people are accusing him and you don't know ???
@ALEXGIBSONCMG
@ALEXGIBSONCMG 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidbobo9740 accusing is the key word, and keep in mind they all reported this to one individual for some strange reason. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, but its sure is strange these weren't more spread out in the community, that's the pattern youd expect to see if he were a serial abuser and this wasn't orchestrated to take him down, that said I don't know, no one knows, and we don't have proof he did anything. Innocent untill PROVEN guilty, that goes for both parties, we don't know that any of these purported victims aren't telling the truth, they might be, and if they are, would you want to be the one that called them liars? that's why im telling you to avoid assumptions, because if you're wrong either way that makes you the bad guy. I understand the instinct to want to assume he did it, because then if he did you're defending these innocent kids, protecting them, if you assume the other way you're just protecting some guy, obv the kids are worth more than the guy, so it becomes the safer bet IF you make yourself choose between the two. However it is the third option that keeps you from the possibility of Either falsely accusing these people of being liars, and falsely accusing an innocent man, a devout Jew of abusing kids. In jewsish culture we don't just avoid sin, we try to avoid the area around sin, we avoid going close to the cliff enough that we might slip and fall off of it by accident. Being wrong in either direction on this is a cliff, the only correct position is a neutral one. Untill hard evidence, material facts come forward to prove the case, that he was a child abuser, or that she lied about being abused, all that we can do is be neutral, or gamble on being wrong, and again being wrong on this, its too serious of an issue to be wrong on this.
@dinushblau4247
@dinushblau4247 2 жыл бұрын
To tell the kids the truth!! That Chaim Valder was an extreme narcissist. That we can not read books of a person like him. That's it.
@mindyh4064
@mindyh4064 2 жыл бұрын
You go talk to g-d I hope someone else is gonna watch our sweet children U have no idea what u r talking about
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