A Decade of Lies, Coverups, and Disasters at Boeing

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History of Everything Podcast

History of Everything Podcast

Күн бұрын

Over the past half decade it seems that the once venerable aviation giant Boeing has fallen into a state of apathy typically reserved for industries in autocratic corrupt regimes. Disaster after disaster has occurred all because a company wanted to save a quick buck. and now everything is falling apart
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@dwavenminer
@dwavenminer Ай бұрын
Note to the police detectives: Stakuyi is not currently suffering any form of depression, nor is he currently considering any kind of extreme sports in remote areas on his own.
@dark_fire_ice
@dark_fire_ice Ай бұрын
He might like tying himself on his chair, leaning up against loose 10 story windows. Or spice up his drink with, say ground up caster beans, or glowing metals
@homerj806
@homerj806 Ай бұрын
We will find out how much gunpower residue was on his hand. But knowing Boeing they would cheap out on the hit and hire some tweaker willing to do it for a bag of coke.
@homerj806
@homerj806 Ай бұрын
Don't forget he was smoking carelessly when he was next to the conveniently open window.
@feartheamish9183
@feartheamish9183 Ай бұрын
Dude needs to move to Arizona so some guy with an umbrella looks odd.
@astrocat2913
@astrocat2913 Ай бұрын
That or he has been enjoying a massive payday mysterious dropped at his front door.
@dwavenminer
@dwavenminer Ай бұрын
Remember, contrary to what that nice Boeing spokes person said, Stakuyi did not "fall down 6 slights of stairs and out the upstairs window", in a single story building, shortly after uploading this...
@historyofeverythingpodcast
@historyofeverythingpodcast Ай бұрын
😂 thank you
@teaser6089
@teaser6089 Ай бұрын
@@historyofeverythingpodcast Mentour Pilot actually talked about this part at 15:50 it's not entirely correct to say that MCAS was put in place to prevent stalling, this was not the goal of the system. It was made to keep the plane handling like the previous models, because if it wouldn't pilots had to be recertified costing airlines money.
@moefki
@moefki Ай бұрын
He suffered from rare "Bullet in Brain disease"
@cHaRli__
@cHaRli__ Ай бұрын
@@moefkistray arrow while larping
@DABK2024
@DABK2024 Ай бұрын
low effort comment​@@moefki
@ducklinsenmayer7681
@ducklinsenmayer7681 Ай бұрын
It's worth noting all this started in 1997, when Boeing merged with McDonnell Douglass. The latter's execs ended up in charge, and Boeing's quality dropped like a rock. This isn't about monopoly or duopoly, this is about stockholder culture and greed.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain Ай бұрын
Personally I feel like buying out a competitor should include purging its executives from leadership positions, but what do I know
@lunaticbz3594
@lunaticbz3594 Ай бұрын
@@whensomethingcriesagain Well do you want to make money consistently over time, Or do you want to get rich quick? We see individuals make this choice all the time, and sometimes corporations make it as well. There's a lot of terrible unstainable ideas that are good for short term profits. McDonnell Douglass executives were well known for their ability to cut costs and raise revenue until it destroyed a company that was once well known and highly regarded. Boeing shareholders profited very well for almost two decades by following the same pattern. Though it ends with the company ultimately losing a lot of its value and will now need to be bought out, or bailed out before too long.
@Denozo88
@Denozo88 Ай бұрын
My Uncle worked for Boeing for close to 20 years. He retired early about 12 years ago now. One thing I overheard about him leaving was that he took issue with Boeing cutting costs on their inspection systems on the tech side. They were forcing out guys like him who were expensive and good for younger cheaper guys.
@ducklinsenmayer7681
@ducklinsenmayer7681 Ай бұрын
@@Denozo88 Yep. the reason they had survived the wars where other companies failed is they had built a reputation for being the very, very best. After the takeover, the new owners only cared about maximizing shareholder profits.
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 Ай бұрын
@@ducklinsenmayer7681classic capitalism at it again.
@validusskywyrd
@validusskywyrd Ай бұрын
“Insert name here” sadly committed suicide. It’s a sad reality, but at least we can rest assured that there is no war in ba sing se.
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 Ай бұрын
Lawsuits are stressful, mentally debilitating affairs that ruin the lives of all involved who are not lawyers or sociopaths. Even if you DO win a massive lawsuit with either the government or a corporate entity or your soon-to-be-divorced wife, the mental scars and depression remain. Also, his family confirmed that he demonstrated symptoms and traits of psychotic depression and PTSD and there is no evidence that they even made the revelation public under any duress.
@BigScreamingBaby
@BigScreamingBaby 26 күн бұрын
​@@DR3ADER1We've got a Boeing representative in the comments
@DR3ADER1
@DR3ADER1 26 күн бұрын
@@BigScreamingBaby I'm not paid by anyone lol. Because people who disagree with you are not always industry plants.
@BigScreamingBaby
@BigScreamingBaby 26 күн бұрын
@@DR3ADER1 Sure thing man I believe you ;D
@downskated
@downskated Ай бұрын
Look up, it's a bird, it's a plane, it's Boeing Parts raining from the sky
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 Ай бұрын
"YYZ ATC, do you have spare parts on hand for a Boeing 737 Max?" "I cannot confirm that we do." "Don't worry. You will shortly."
@HisRoyalCakeness
@HisRoyalCakeness Ай бұрын
Correction: It *_was_* a plane.
@rgloria40
@rgloria40 Ай бұрын
More like too many subcontractors by too many senior senior ex boeing employees who started subcontracting companies. Maybe the boeing ex employee may had the qualification of a engineering degrees, experience and work ethics...his employee maybe not ...probably lied on the resume and etc...
@atashgallagher5139
@atashgallagher5139 Ай бұрын
​@rgloria40 what in the actual f**k are you talking about?
@ZentaBon
@ZentaBon Ай бұрын
@@rgloria40we have methods to rule these causes out. The whole "profit over quality" culture is a big tell, the whole "pressuring to not document quality defects" is another large tell
@Spark_Chaser
@Spark_Chaser Ай бұрын
What's really fun is, said whistleblower told members of his family that if he unalived in a self inflicted manner, he was not the one who did it. So, dude knew there was a high probability he was going to wind up "self terminating" at the hands of someone else.
@realtsarbomba
@realtsarbomba Ай бұрын
It isn't right at all that his autopsy was done by the coroner of the city that is desperately dependent of Boeing's factory.
@pathfinderlight
@pathfinderlight Ай бұрын
Knowing that, why didn't he have a bodyguard?
@vahlen5281
@vahlen5281 Ай бұрын
​@@pathfinderlight You honestly think a single bodyguard would make a difference if a multi-billion dollar company with tons of leverage on the government wants you six feet under?
@ethanbiggs1217
@ethanbiggs1217 Ай бұрын
​@@pathfinderlight not many people can afford private security around the clock
@moledaddy
@moledaddy Ай бұрын
​@@pathfinderlighta dude that crossed the Clinton's suicided himself tied to a tree with three shots to the back of his head. Do you think a bodyguard, if he could afford it, would save him from suicide? Our society has fallen.
@aarons6935
@aarons6935 Ай бұрын
The fact China were the voice of reason for not returning them to service here is wild to me.
@micki0finn430
@micki0finn430 17 күн бұрын
Sometimes, even a blind squirrel can find a nut.
@Palemagpie
@Palemagpie Ай бұрын
Man, i cant believe Stakuyi fell down that elevator shaft onto all those bullets. What a tragic and unavoidable accident.
@SystemBD
@SystemBD Ай бұрын
Plus, looking at the bullet wounds on his front and back he had to fall at least two times through the shaft. Tragic, but relatable.
@Arvak777
@Arvak777 Ай бұрын
It's those rickety staircases and poorly placed bullets. It could've been prevented 😢
@Woodie-xq1ew
@Woodie-xq1ew 21 күн бұрын
How tragic in a single story building
@doctorblobs
@doctorblobs Ай бұрын
I'm so saddened to hear about the tragic death of Stakuyi, slipped on a banana and fell out of a 12-story appartement
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 Ай бұрын
At Fort Benning (now Fort Moore) we had a guy who, one night, fell down the same two flights of concrete steps three times after being caught stealing from his platoon's lockers. It was a mystery.
@trollmastermike52845
@trollmastermike52845 Ай бұрын
Got the CIA special
@jblob5764
@jblob5764 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂​@@MonkeyJedi99
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 Ай бұрын
​@@trollmastermike52845 Falling out a window is the KGB Special. CIA Specials are single car accidents (please ignore the paint streaks that seem to come from another vehicle), or accidental overdose by someone without a history of using drugs.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 Ай бұрын
And fallend unto accidentally placed box of high powered bullets.
@Hellhound23691
@Hellhound23691 Ай бұрын
Listened to this on the Red Thread Podcast and holy crap. This is absolutely insane. And RIP Stakuyi. We still don’t understand why he cut his own brake lines before jumping off the Empire State Building, leaving a note that Boeing was innocent of any wrong doing in your death.
@EugeneMStoner764
@EugeneMStoner764 Ай бұрын
I once worked with a chronic alcoholic who was fired for drinking on the job. Once he claimed to be a former Spirit Aero worker and he said his reasons for leaving didn't even have to do with his drinking problem, now i believe him.
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt Ай бұрын
Probably fired for not sharing!
@MooseGaming33
@MooseGaming33 Ай бұрын
"you don't drink enough alcohol, you're too safe!"
@Ladytasya
@Ladytasya Ай бұрын
I think the source of his drinking maybe his former employer
@precise1329
@precise1329 Ай бұрын
You may find this difficult to believe. But Spirit Aero is a leader in DEI.
@OhPhuckYou
@OhPhuckYou 22 күн бұрын
​@@precise1329Ohhh. I'll have to research that. I'm trying to get hired at Spirit. That just might move my name to the top of the list if I say I'm a few things I ain't.
@beplanking
@beplanking Ай бұрын
Executives need to face criminal liability if it's found that serious consumer safety concerns can be attributed in whole or part to their culture-building actions
@user-ko4ks2fc5r
@user-ko4ks2fc5r Ай бұрын
Never. The politicians have been paid off.
@ineffige
@ineffige Ай бұрын
That's the biggest problem in the system - they almost never do. Those criminal morons should be made an example
@falcondestroyer1gaming200
@falcondestroyer1gaming200 Ай бұрын
It’s worth noting that until it acquired (and was corrupted by) McDonald Douglass, Boeing was both incredibly successful and known as the global leader for both innovation and an exceptional safety record (while McDonald Douglass was known for its cutthroat and profit focused practices, and it’s terribly unsafe planes)
@roninsnider1677
@roninsnider1677 Ай бұрын
Which is sad cause the Douglas Aircraft Corp was renowned for its amazing, safe, and economical commercial airliners, And only had to me bought by Mcdonald cause of an imperfect storm of disasters.
@antonnurwald5700
@antonnurwald5700 Ай бұрын
Why would they even want this merger?
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger Ай бұрын
McDonnell Douglas not whatever you said, fix your comment.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain Ай бұрын
​@@antonnurwald5700Because it makes them the only US-based commercial aircraft manufacturer.
@antonnurwald5700
@antonnurwald5700 Ай бұрын
@@whensomethingcriesagain probably. I mean, this just shows the schizophrenic relationship between governments and corporations. Being the only US manufacturer, they could realistically assume the government would protect them and rely on them for contracts (tanker planes and such, and i'm sure the gov would stop US carriers from buying Airbus only). And in return, they would rip off the government and US citizens. Nice.
@Ninja_Geek
@Ninja_Geek Ай бұрын
Alternate title for this video: "Why I'm only flying on Airbus planes for the foreseeable future."
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt Ай бұрын
Other alternate title: Why I’m only doing road-trips!
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 Ай бұрын
@@MortabluntI would say boats but ehh yeah maybe not given recent events.
@JohnAppleseed-cy1rd
@JohnAppleseed-cy1rd Ай бұрын
Hahahaha literally aaalll airlines have Boeing and airbus planes. Good luck finding flights without a significant disruption.
@draketurtle4169
@draketurtle4169 Ай бұрын
@@JohnAppleseed-cy1rd … did you not get the joke? They aren’t against airbus they are saying to boycott Boeing by only going airbus
@JohnAppleseed-cy1rd
@JohnAppleseed-cy1rd Ай бұрын
@@draketurtle4169 theres no joke, I'm just saying that all airlines use both planes because of the saying " never keep all your eggs in one basket". So to fly anywhere you would have to do 20x more work and pay way more to book multiple flights with multiple carriers if you only wish to go on Airbus.
@a1c41
@a1c41 Ай бұрын
I remember a conversation that I had with a retired Boeing employee at a local bar in Everett. He told me that he had took an early retirement because of changes to the management that he found disagreeable. He complained that managers were not hired from among the ranks of Boeing employees, but rather from outside the company with "fancy university degrees." I found this counterintuitive of the old school method of recruiting, hiring, and promotion within the company. I asked, "how can an outsider fresh out of university know anything about building planes? Would it make more sense to hire an old hand, who has worked the worked the floor? Or at least someone from the engineering department?" He said, "I know it doesn't make sense. Not only that they also changed the inspection. Instead of having quality control physically inspect the aircraft from top to bottom, they want the machinists to certify it themselves. If there is a problem with the part of the plane that I worked, I would be responsible." It did not occur to me at the time, that machinists would steal oarts from other finished planes, to build an incomplete one. It is a good thing that old man I talked to took an early retirement.
@Kohl293
@Kohl293 Ай бұрын
This just in: Stakuyi found tragically dead after self-waterboarding for 17 consecutive hours then strapping himself to a missile.
@atashgallagher5139
@atashgallagher5139 Ай бұрын
Ran over by Boeing 737 max in his home.
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker Ай бұрын
You missed two VERY important points: Spirit Aerosystems? The company blamed for the latest round of manufacturing shortcomings? *Was Boeing's Wichita factory.* The very same factory that the B-29 Stratofortress was built in. Boeing spun them off to become an "Independent" subcontractor, who they then relentlessly exploited, forcing them to cut costs under threat of contract termination. And they did this, because the company you're talking about hasn't really been 'Boeing' since 1997. McDonnel-Douglas, faced with a complete collapse of its airline business and dwindling military contracts, leveraged a merger with Boeing, with McD-D's management taking over Boeing's operations. Ever since, it has been forcing through the same catastrophic decisions that tanked their former business, and created failure after failure, held aloft by airline companies that have, at *most,* one other choice. While your discussion of the company's history is appreciated, these two points alone turns that entire discussion on its head. And in truth, the company you *should* have been researching was *McDonnel Douglas.*
@Duffman19370
@Duffman19370 Ай бұрын
"KZfaq user @watchm4ker found dead in hotel parking lot after raising importance of Boeing's ownership"
@benpaulik2327
@benpaulik2327 Ай бұрын
I remember watching the Mayday TV series as a teenager and wondering why so many episodes were about DC planes. Now I know why…
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker Ай бұрын
@@benpaulik2327 A lot of the problems Boeing has been having, have stemmed from two major decisions: The decision to divest and outsource most of the company's manufacturing and development, and the decision to reuse old designs long past their relevance. The former, in particular, led to the disastrous development process of the 787, and all of these problems, including the financial crunch the 787's problems placed on the company, led to the 737 MAX. *All of these problems* mirror the downfall of McDonnell Douglass, with the MD-11, a rehashed, 3-engine DC-10, years too late and plagued with design and mechanical issues thanks to the gutting of the company's manufacturing departments and largely ignored by the airline industry as more efficient and reliable twin-engine airliners were now able to make oceanic flights. Fully in the knowledge that these decisions doomed their airline business, they took over Boeing *and did the same thing for decades.* Only now, there's nobody else for the industry to turn to.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Ай бұрын
Pedantic nitpick: the B-29 was the Superfortress; the B-52 is the Stratofortress.
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker Ай бұрын
@@boobah5643 The factory made both, my train of thought slipped on its wheels.
@hogfry
@hogfry Ай бұрын
"In todays news. Popular podcaster and KZfaqr Stayuki was found dead, having tragically fallen into 27 knives and an inconveniently placed running hand mixer. And being mauled by a bear taking refuge in his hotel shower.
@gundammakerworldbreaker6133
@gundammakerworldbreaker6133 Ай бұрын
those pesky Russians bears. ебать
@Axpere
@Axpere Ай бұрын
16:00 A common misconception is than the MCAS was needed to stabilize the plane, the real reason was that the behavior of the plane was slightly but sufficiently different from the previous model that the pilots needed training hours to adapt to the new behavior. The MCAS aim was to make the behavior of the new plane similar enough to the old one, so that what the piloting experience could be considered the same.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 Ай бұрын
Exactly. All so it would cost less for airline companies to purchase the new Max variants. It had to “feel” like flying the older variants of 737 so that the pilots wouldn’t need any training to fly the new Max variants. That’s what MCAS was for… is for. The problems are that the MCAS relied on readings from a single sensor which is a *huge* no-no in aviation. There must be at least one redundancy in every critical system. The pilots are included in this philosophy-that’s partially why there are two pilots instead of one. That’s why those two Max 8s crashed. It was getting AoA data from a faulty sensor and believed the aircraft was nose up when it was actually flying straight so it activated to correct the phantom pitch up. The other problem was that the pilots didn’t know MCAS even existed let alone how to deal with it. I’m not quite sure if the pilots could have done something if they had known about MCAS. Some say they couldn’t, others say they could if they treated it as a runaway trim situation but I’m not a pilot so I’m not sure.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Ай бұрын
@@mikoto7693 What's clear is that they were trained to fly it like a 737-NG and when it acted in ways only a MAX could, they crashed.
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 11 күн бұрын
​@@mikoto7693 They had to pretend MCAS wasn't a critical system because they have to train pilots about critical systems.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 11 күн бұрын
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Yup, they even lied to the FAA claiming that MCAS wasn’t a critical system that the pilots had to know about. And Boeing *knew* it was lying to the regulators. Those people (and I use the word “people” in the loosest possible way) *knew* that MCAS relying upon a single sensor was not only illegal, but it would eventually malfunction.
@barracuda7018
@barracuda7018 Ай бұрын
You wanna destroy a successful engineering company, hire a Harvard MBA, you wanna survive and grow , then an MIT engineer with a PhD.
@elontusk2372
@elontusk2372 Ай бұрын
Gotta watch this before it has to be edited to high hell over"terms and service"
@historyofeverythingpodcast
@historyofeverythingpodcast Ай бұрын
A very real possibility
@michellamoureuxm
@michellamoureuxm Ай бұрын
​@historyofeverythingpodcast did it happen? Because if so this is still spicy a fuck for being edited
@MooseGaming33
@MooseGaming33 Ай бұрын
blueline music (owned by boeing) has copyright claimed this video for it's music.
@SAAltPants
@SAAltPants Ай бұрын
Corporatisim kills. This is entirely predictable in ANY business that replaces Operations-minded leadership with Finance-minded leadership. For a less fatal example, see the Southwest booking crisis of a few years ago. The CEO (who had started with the company on the operations side) left the company, was replaced by a bean counter, and the already old software in the booking system was allowed to persist so far beyond its operational lifespan that when it failed, there was no one left who knew how to fix it.
@trollmastermike52845
@trollmastermike52845 Ай бұрын
Corporatism is an unfortunate cancer of capitalism
@urbanarmory
@urbanarmory Ай бұрын
It's a common issue with air travel in particular just because it's such a weird and money sink kind of business
@SAAltPants
@SAAltPants Ай бұрын
@@urbanarmory the big issue is that it's a duopoly. Without the incentive of competition to maintain standards, what reason is there for a Finance guy to expend more than the bare minimum so they can maximize EBITDA?
@urbanarmory
@urbanarmory Ай бұрын
@@SAAltPants can't argue with that, but the investment required to spin up a competitor seems nearly impossible without massive state funding or something similar
@fortyninehike
@fortyninehike Ай бұрын
Boeing was founded and ran by pilots and engineers for decades. during which time they created great a revolutionary aircraft. Then wall street got involved and the board appointed a finance guy that said they same thing a previous stated. He bragged how he turned the company into a money making machine that stopped creating great machines and ran by people essentially living off of the walking corpse of Boeing. GM had to delay the release of the C8 corvette because of electrical issues. Mary Barra (the same that invested $1 billion in the obvious scam of the company Nikola. The self described "trailblazing CEO" for just being a woman) override the head engineer, Tadge Juechter, to release it anyways. Tadge didn't like it, he was passionate about what he does and cares about the customers, not GM's quarterly profit. He threaten to quit if GM pushed it out and those under did the same. Barra backed down and a year later they released an amazing car that shocked the industry. Let the engineers run the company. Business school doesn't qualify you for anything. The payouts and golden parachutes of these CEO for hitting quarterly profits are destroying America. Makes about as much sense as using a law degree to prepare someone to become a politician.
@jadefalcon001
@jadefalcon001 Ай бұрын
You know it's grim when there's a not-kidding "if 'something happens' to me, this video might be why." Oof.
@antonnurwald5700
@antonnurwald5700 Ай бұрын
The funny thing is that shareholder value orientation brought Boeing into this mess, and now shareholder value is down. Turns out that greed is not a substitute for engineering. Also goes to show that the government realy does not help a company if it refuses to hold it to high standards.
@knpark2025
@knpark2025 Ай бұрын
Whatever corporate finance nonsense their management were smoking on, dropping two jets from the sky and then blowing off a door from the third in flight is definitely NOT how to maximize shareholder value...😂😂
@Chinothebad
@Chinothebad Ай бұрын
It's something that honestly should tell shareholders to actually focus on safety and the like instead of junk like "maximum profits." Then again, they more likely care about silencing whistleblowers that are pointing out the safety problems rather than actually making sure their own planes aren't death traps.
@dattebenforcer
@dattebenforcer Ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the McDonald Douglas / Boeing merger. Boeing's culture was greatly affected by the acquisition. Probably the root of the problem.
@hokutoulrik7345
@hokutoulrik7345 Ай бұрын
It basically is. McDonnell-Douglas basically took over the C suite and moved the headquarters from Everett where the main plant is to Chicago.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan Ай бұрын
I think the root of the problem is the tight relationship with the government. Getting away with cutting corners. There is no way this is clean. This is why government is supposed to be hands off. Without lobbying and under the table stuff, they wouldve been pressured by the public. Or wouldn't have gotten so large that they snuffed out competition. Competition is what keeps capitalism working and prices down amongst other things.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Ай бұрын
I think the problem is also that Mcdonald Douglas was the LAST American based competitor to Boeing. As guy said in previous comment, Boeing now only passenger jet manufacturer owned based in America which ment a lot of favours with government who wants to keep him runing and with that they have no incentive to improve product.
@Lordjerm78
@Lordjerm78 Ай бұрын
This is what is happening to almost all companies in the USA. No agency is able to hold them accountable in any way. When the fines are cheaper than the costs of stopping, then why would they stop??
@MrGeo-yq6ec
@MrGeo-yq6ec Ай бұрын
As an engineer for a vendor that manufactures components for Boeing (as well as other major aerospace companies)… I will never fly on anything other than an Airbus aircraft. Take that as you will.
@zeliardforty-two4692
@zeliardforty-two4692 Ай бұрын
This sort of thing reminds me of part of a movie where the protagonist is explaining his job. It was his job in a car company to travel around checking car accidents do to defects in the company’s cars. Then he concentrates the cost of a recall (A) and compares it to resulting potential lawsuits (B). If A costs more then B, they don’t do a recall I wonder just how much of this sort of complex math leads to decision making like thus 😳
@christophertablante7680
@christophertablante7680 Ай бұрын
The movie you're thinking of is probably Fight Club, and the quote comes from actor Edward Norton.
@zeliardforty-two4692
@zeliardforty-two4692 Ай бұрын
@@christophertablante7680 didn’t know if anything would get flagged if I mentioned it directly lol but yes 👍 probably not the most direct quote
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt Ай бұрын
I think it also sounds pretty similar to some thing from “A Civil Action”, although I really can’t remember, but something that did stand out about the movie was early on the protagonist has a monologue about the cost of life and how not everyone has an equally expensive death compensation, which factors in as the movie is about a lawsuit pertaining to corporate malfeasance, that overwhelmingly kills children, a.k.a. cheap victims.
@Rohrkrepierer88
@Rohrkrepierer88 Ай бұрын
Ford Pinto anyone ? Ford knew that its fuel-tank design could case deadly fires in rear-end collisions , made a calculation and ended up deciding its cheaper not to fix it .
@josephharrison5639
@josephharrison5639 Ай бұрын
Remember everyone, Stakuyi is alert, enthusiastic and not at all suicidal.
@postersm7141
@postersm7141 Ай бұрын
I can think of three other things that happened. The wheel that fell off on takeoff crushing a car, the one that took off leaking fuel, and, of course, the one that lost its flight controls, and just went into a dive for no apparent reason.
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond Ай бұрын
Just yesterday a 777 taking of from Munich, Germany, had to return shortly after takeoff because the toilets malfunctioned and flooded the passenger area.
@NikkiRae991
@NikkiRae991 Ай бұрын
I've been QC for 2 different types of companies and they say they care about quality but when money is involved, they don't care in the slightest. In the end, especially if they can hide it, all they care about is money. Most if not all companies, imo, are like this. It just saddens me because people have the potential to be so much better... Thank you for everything Stak. Love you and Gabby. Keep up the great work 💙💙💙
@Lgnds_CBZ
@Lgnds_CBZ Ай бұрын
Its unfortunate to hear of the loss of our favorite youtuber and tourist Stakuyi, he was flying on a Boeing 747 Max when suddenly without any warning, the rear door flew off and Stakuyi's row of seats flew out of the door and fell 12000ft into northern Africa, its an unfortunate loss for all life lost, we at boeing blame crooked competitors-Boeing
@logwhitley
@logwhitley Ай бұрын
Boeing should lean into this with the tag line "tired of life, fly Boeing".
@334outdoors8
@334outdoors8 Ай бұрын
I’m an A&P mechanic I got my license in 2021 in 2020 my school canceled a contract with Boeing that gave us a 10,000$ bonus and 2,000$ in tools to work for the company for two years not signing that contract is the best decision I ever made
@baconsnake6463
@baconsnake6463 Ай бұрын
Corporate aviation is the move, QA was taken seriously and we didn’t release aircraft till we were sure it was airworthy
@beplanking
@beplanking Ай бұрын
When I was a small child a group called Go Fish had a talking about how they didn't understand how planes fly, but saying they "really don't care, as long as while I'm in it it stays up there," which at the time was a funny joke. Now it seems more like a legitimate concern
@0giwan
@0giwan Ай бұрын
I was working on an Operations Management degree between 2011 amd 2014. I wrote a paper then on the numerous problems with the 787 "Dreamliner" then in early production. It started a WHILE ago. Also, we had a Decision Failure Analysis class which basically went over how management screwed the pooch by the numbers. I feel pretty confident that Boeing will make an appearance soon.
@gregorywiryayuwana4138
@gregorywiryayuwana4138 Ай бұрын
Indonesian here, crashes do happen years prior. Indonesian airlines even got banned from flying to the EU at one point. We have improved somewhat. So, when I saw Boeing's fuck up with Lion Air and its relegation of responsibility, the anger really came close to home. Also condolences to all victims of Ethiopia and Lion Air crashes.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 Ай бұрын
Who could have imagined merging with the company that gave the world the absolutely perfect, completely safe we promise DC-10 would ever lead to problems down the line.
@StickandRuddur
@StickandRuddur Ай бұрын
I’m an Air Force test pilot and just got hired by a large airline that operates predominantly Boeings of various types, to include a few variants of the Max…so naturally this is something I’m interested in. I thought you did a great job of researching and presenting in a manner accessible to a wide audience. Nice work, keep up the great content.
@TheKerberos84
@TheKerberos84 Ай бұрын
A good Q&A manager is A: high in disagreeableness B: Blunt C: pedantic John Barnett seems to have been all of that. The amount of "Accidents" this man alone must had prevented must be high. From all the Information provides. I come to the following opinion. They didn't want Boeing to go out of business, not matter what happens. Boeing is to big to fail. To many jobs, taxes, proud.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Ай бұрын
By this point they should have split Boeing back to pre 1997 merger with McDonald Douglas.
@casbot71
@casbot71 Ай бұрын
What about the manufacturing of military aircraft? The US airforce would not be happy, and they are very difficult to apply pressure to or intimidate.
@spartana1116
@spartana1116 Ай бұрын
I imagine they would put pressure on quality control since not only the Air Force be one of the strongest branch in the us military but pilots are valuable for the time and cost put in to train them for the machine they buy from them
@Felix0587
@Felix0587 Ай бұрын
The USAF has actually been having troubles with them for quite some time. Air Force technicians finding garbage and tools in the fuselage of planes, If I recall correctly there was a number of issues with the new tankers. Door seals not sealing for example. There have been multiple instance where they rejected planes until the issue was fixed.
@tillettman
@tillettman Ай бұрын
You think the top brass fly in Boeing military aircraft? No, they just enjoy the profits.
@hokutoulrik7345
@hokutoulrik7345 Ай бұрын
The planes made specifically for the military are generally fine, since it is bespoke design work. The issue comes from the 737/777/787 derived planes that have been recently delivered, the P-8 Neptune, KC-46 Pegasus and a couple more that I am not recalling currently.
@hokutoulrik7345
@hokutoulrik7345 Ай бұрын
​@Felix0587 i think some of the issues were from places that had come back from the depots, which are run by the Air Force on a few airbases. But the issue has been addressed several times at the relevant commands.
@zanebliss3764
@zanebliss3764 Ай бұрын
yeah, My Uncle worked at Spirit Aero systems, the Boeing branch in Wichita that was sold. He was a contracting FAA inspector. They decided not to renew his contract when he refused to sign off on aircraft that had safety issues. The company I currently work for hired some former Boeing executives. They started doing the same thing. Technicians inspecting thier own work and disolved the entire quality control team. Fortunately we don't make airplanes and the Field Service Engineers caught the blunders before dangerous gasses flowed through them. Didn't look very good for our company by the customer since it took a lot longer to set up the tools. Those executives no longer work for us. I do work with an engineer that worked out there. She left Boeing because of the hostel work enviroment and the fact that administrators would not listen to engineers about concerns.
@ahashbrown3747
@ahashbrown3747 Ай бұрын
There is a minor correction needed about the MCAS system it wasn’t intended as a safety system to prevent stalling the plane was still aerodynamically stable with it being switched off and that is the solutions pilots could use to avoid the tragedies had they known to do that. No the MCAS system was designed instead to make sure the plane handled like the previous model of 737 so they wouldn’t need new certifications from the FAA so pilots wouldn’t need additional training. So the MCAS system wasn’t a safety measure but a cost cutting one.
@ahashbrown3747
@ahashbrown3747 Ай бұрын
Here is a little extra information about the MCAS system it relies only on one sensor and if that sensor was faulty it lead to the results seen a simple fix would’ve been to use 3 sensors instead to serve as back ups and give information to the pilot if an issue arises allowing them to terminate the system if needed
@lucasfragoso7634
@lucasfragoso7634 Ай бұрын
​@@ahashbrown3747that would have been the smart decision. Boeing decided not to do that for some reason.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 Ай бұрын
Allow me to explain. Here’s the problem with the idea of using three AoA sensors for MCAS to use…. There are only two physically on the 737 variants. Adding a third would require major rework on every single 737 max 7, 8, 9 and 10 in existence. Even now a weakened MCAS still can only rely on two sensors. I think there’s a “synthetic” third one that gets a value taken from other readings but… yeah. At this moment I think if there is a significant difference between the two, it now hands control back to the human pilots to deal with instead of automatically kicking in and overriding them. The funny thing is that Airbus actually did design their airliners to have three AoA sensors.
@Fernando-ek8jp
@Fernando-ek8jp Ай бұрын
I mean, it can be both. If it makes the plane fly as pilots are used to, that does make it safer. That being said, the fact that they didn't disclose the existence of that system does point to them trying to pretend like airlines wouldn't have to train their pilots for the new planes, thus making themselves look like the obvious choicem
@ahashbrown3747
@ahashbrown3747 Ай бұрын
@@mikoto7693 yeah I agree I was saying that it should have been be part of the initial design but it was overlooked
@colinwalker6804
@colinwalker6804 Ай бұрын
And of course within 24 hours of you finishing recording, the CEO and most of Boeing upper management are resigning or no longer planning on running for reelection…
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 Ай бұрын
Literally "You can't fire me, I quit."
@andrewhopkins886
@andrewhopkins886 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Nixon maneuver.
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 Ай бұрын
@@andrewhopkins886 Airgate.
@ericspecullaas2841
@ericspecullaas2841 Ай бұрын
The super smart thing any whistleblower can do is record what they want to say right before they go. If they also have photos and video of said infractions with their testimony, it would then allow the case to move forward. Also, it forces the company to defend those actions while trying to destroy a dead person's reputation thats now in the public eye. This will in turn cause the companies stock to crash and maybe go under.
@mikoto7693
@mikoto7693 Ай бұрын
Fortunately, to an extent, he did. He recorded footage of multiple Boeing employees on the factory floor saying they wouldn’t fly or put their families on the aircraft they were building and the time. He also did multiple recorded interviews. His words and work will live on, but his death might save Boeing billions because he was suing them himself. Of course they killed him. The timing of it is simply a message to all future whistleblowers.
@georgethompson913
@georgethompson913 Ай бұрын
That face when you buy out McdonaldDouglas and then give their CEO's all the power.
@dayontapout
@dayontapout Ай бұрын
Flying legit scares me these days. I used to LOVE to fly. This past Christmas I was flying with my wife and daughter from Dallas to Spokane on American Airlines. When they backed out plane away from the gate they backed us into another parked plane!!! We sat in the wrecked plane for about an hour waiting for them to get us unstuck just for them to tell us there were no other flights that evening and we'd have to get a hotel. Then they stuck us on a red eye the next morning. Everything about the whole situation was super sketchy. Y'all please be safe out there.
@mazbaird
@mazbaird 3 күн бұрын
How was that Boeings fault?
@hokutoulrik7345
@hokutoulrik7345 Ай бұрын
The merger of Boeing and McDonnell-Douglas was the worst thing to happen to either company.
@danlorett2184
@danlorett2184 Ай бұрын
McDonnell ruined Douglas first, then went on to ruin Boeing too.
@isaacwright407
@isaacwright407 Ай бұрын
I used to work in QA, "trust but verify" is the whole point, a mechanic signing off on their own work is fine for something like motor greasing (with occasional spot checks), but absolutely not for critical components. I should've tried for a job at Boeing, I was worried I was under qualified but apparently not
@LexYeen
@LexYeen Ай бұрын
if anything, you'd be overqualified.
@3DZON_R870
@3DZON_R870 Ай бұрын
Boeing's new philosophy: When one door Closes, Another one Opens. Gr8 Video, thanks for putting it together and keep up the good work. If they find you with a "head wound", I will definetely will refer them to this video ;v
@mariobosnjak99
@mariobosnjak99 Ай бұрын
Kinda wild Boeing hasnt been banned from operating within any country as a company yet
@user-vg6sg7kh1q
@user-vg6sg7kh1q Ай бұрын
The problem with Boeing began in 1997 when they merge with McDonnel Douglas which was going bad.. They screw up on the shares and suddenly some years after the management of McDonnel Douglas are the one controlling Boeing. It change Boeing from a company lead by engineer with a focus on security and quality to a company lead by penny pincher with a focus on cost cutting. It takes a lot of time to develop a plane and we are seeing the results now
@Vermilleno
@Vermilleno Ай бұрын
I used to love Boeing and its aircraft. Truly marvels of engineering... but the last decade they fell hard and now I look to Airbus as the industry leader we need.
@Toto-95
@Toto-95 Ай бұрын
He looked so happy in this video... Hard to believe he threw himself out of a cliff after slitting his own throat 😢
@STRAKAZulu
@STRAKAZulu Ай бұрын
Makes me glad that I have no plans on flying anywhere.
@tjenadonn6158
@tjenadonn6158 Ай бұрын
Most booking sites allow you to filter available flights by aircraft type. Some of them have noticed such an uptick in people using the feature that they've made it more prominent. Boeing's aeronautical engineers screwed up so hard they wound up creating more work for web developers at entirely separate companies.
@moledaddy
@moledaddy Ай бұрын
I had to fly last week. I made sure to go to confession first. Just in case.
@Perich29
@Perich29 Ай бұрын
I don't fly often, I drive truck.
@AaronMichaelLong
@AaronMichaelLong Ай бұрын
Problems like these arise from a classical economic dilemma, the "Principal-Agent problem". In simple English, this is the problem when the guy you hire to do work does a shitty job, because he's not held accountable, and you lack the ability to punish the agent. Mercifully, there is a solution, and a relatively simple one: Pass legislation which makes executives and board-members accountable for negligent and fraudulent behavior, instead of *shareholders*. That's the root-cause of these problems. People act according to their incentives, and the way executive compensation works, they're paid to make deadlines and earn money. You make the company's officers face the consequences of their stupid, asinine decisions, and suddenly they will get very, very interested in professional rigor.
@Nordrir
@Nordrir Ай бұрын
This entire thing is just straight ridiculous at this point - I don't see how these CEOs get away with just getting fired after literally having conspired to cause these quality issues resulting in hundreds and hundreds of deaths. These people should have all worldly belongings stripped and sent to prison on manslaughter convictions for each and every single one of those deaths.
@fortyninehike
@fortyninehike Ай бұрын
Man how convenient for Boeing! With about 9,300 of just 737 in service, his deposition could've been used as grounds for liability due to neglect by anyone injured or harmed by any of their aircraft. "But a major corporation would never do that. The liability would be too much if it was tied to them"
@timetuner
@timetuner Ай бұрын
I haven't been able to find a primary/official source claiming that Barnett committed suicide. The police report says he had a gun in his hand and "on the passenger seat was a white piece of paper that closely resembled a note." The County Coroner says he died of "what appears to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound." Cops did their paperwork and the coroner described a body on a table. They haven't made any claims/conclusions about how he ended up that way cuz investigation is ongoing
@patogenny
@patogenny Ай бұрын
MCAS wasn't installed to prevent stalling. It purpose was to make MAX to behave like older 737 so they could be treated as the same airplane.
@jonathonfreeman9233
@jonathonfreeman9233 Ай бұрын
pretty sure that KZfaq will demonitize this ... since they bend like Origami to the slightest of external corporate pressure. Thanks for your effort in bringing this to light.
@nickfromm5315
@nickfromm5315 Ай бұрын
Rest in peace, Stakuyi. You are going to be missed when Boeing sees this video. You will be remembered.
@Birdzlitlehelpr
@Birdzlitlehelpr Ай бұрын
Boeing is a major defense contractor, should've known self or accidental deletion would come swift after calling them out.
@AnimeFreak40K
@AnimeFreak40K Ай бұрын
I would like to remind folks that any time there's a corporate merger, especially when the resulting company will gain a significant amount of market-share of the product or service, this is exactly what you get. Doubly so if representatives and shareholders of that company talk about how "it benefits the customers". These mergers *NEVER* benefit the customers and they *NEVER* benefit the employees on the ground.
@foxylady1048
@foxylady1048 Ай бұрын
This is one of the most in-depth articles I’ve ever seen about a company that puts profits above lives. Reminds me a lot of the mafias thinking strategy. “If it dont happen then just cut it out’’. Well done my friend. You have my vote. And I will subscribe.
@eidheannnicnil1256
@eidheannnicnil1256 Ай бұрын
The company started this downhill slide when they moved the corporate headquarters to Chicago from Seattle.
@Locaneo
@Locaneo Ай бұрын
Careful, you're gonna be called a FR lunatic by other lunatics at this rate. Make sure you mention how much you love living every once in a while.
@louielunch3172
@louielunch3172 Ай бұрын
Boeing’s employee motto changed from “If it’s not Boeing I’m not going” to “If it’s Boeing I’m not going”
@thefancytiefling
@thefancytiefling Ай бұрын
You got to just walk the fact that just after the whistleblower spoke out he somehow magically died despite telling his friends and family that he was not suicidal and had plenty of reasons to live and that if he died it was foul play. He then somehow died from a gunshot wound to the head yet no gun was recovered on the scene which typically when a person offs themselves with a firearm it's kind of hard for them to discard and get rid of the firearm
@Eorlingolas
@Eorlingolas Ай бұрын
I'm doing my part to please the youtube algorithm god. Also, great job stakuyi, keep up the good work. Heck, now i think i'll check next time i'm flying what type of aircraft and if it's boeing or not.
@colinpatrick3350
@colinpatrick3350 Ай бұрын
Also here to comment for the algorithm.
@doppelkammertoaster
@doppelkammertoaster Ай бұрын
I'm surprised you missed the seemingly number one thing that, according to Last Week Tonight, led to all of this: the merger with this other company, whose leadership then took over and suplanted the work culture of Boeing with theirs. And this apparently created all this. It's the leadership.
@eligoldman9200
@eligoldman9200 Ай бұрын
There is no fucking way that the guy voluntarily killed himself. He either was killed and the mortician was paid off or he was forced to kill himself due to some perceived threat.
@mkvenner2
@mkvenner2 Ай бұрын
Zersetzung look it up
@mikenewman4078
@mikenewman4078 Ай бұрын
The cleverly designed pressure that huge Murkkkan companies can bring to bear on anyone they think may ever testify against then must be seen to believed. Sending insurance statements which show their victim is worth more to their family dead than alive is a favourite tactic. It messes with your head.
@jamaigar
@jamaigar Ай бұрын
Something I'd love for your videos, that usually cover a wide arrey of fates and year, to put the date we are on related to the part of the story you are currently telling, or as part of time stamps. The topics that you cover are usually complex and i tend to get lost in the details and often find myself having a hard time remembering what year we sre currently on, which i feel it's important to keep in mind the historical context. I don't known if this would require much editing but it's something I'd love to see. In sny case, I'm loving your content
@JohnNathanShopper
@JohnNathanShopper Ай бұрын
A lot of people have talked about this, but Stakuyi’s way of summarizing is kinda perfect 💛
@mattfaucett5246
@mattfaucett5246 Ай бұрын
From what I understand, Boeing basically didn’t wanna have to mandate training to pilots on a new computer system in order to follow FAA guidelines because it would delay the release of the 737 Max 8 and cost them money. To avoid this, they lied and hid the fact that they installed MCAS, calling it a simple upgrade that required no extra training for the pilots. Now we know what happens when you’re not trained on it.
@moefki
@moefki Ай бұрын
Fly high Stakuyi, after a tragic series of events where he fell out of his chair 🙏🕊️
@letthetunesflow
@letthetunesflow Ай бұрын
Great work covering this topic, especially in your very accessible and clear way. You never sacrifice accuracy and detail for simplicity or digestibility. Yet even so, you have found a way to never sacrifice accuracy and detail, while having an undeniable talent for presenting the information in such a way to make you an absolute joy to listen to, with your very natural and casual voice also making things amazing to watch and/or listen to, some how no mater the topic you always manage to make it a joy to watch every video you make! Not to mention your amazing podcast which is equally a joy to listen to! Keep on crushing it! And thank your wife, she is always adding fun comic relief, and her light trolling of you is also incredibly adorable!
@Cec9e13
@Cec9e13 Ай бұрын
When China questions your safety record - CHINA - to say that "you have a problem" is an understatement.
@LtColShingSides
@LtColShingSides Ай бұрын
If it's a Boeing, I ain't going
@SystemBD
@SystemBD Ай бұрын
The executives should be forced to fly regularly on (random, but different) planes created by the company. Make it look like a family vacation, so that it goes through HR and they have an extra incentive to make their products correctly.
@CoffeeKadachi
@CoffeeKadachi Ай бұрын
I’m really glad you made this video. There’s so many wild headlines it’s nice to have someone who’s sifted through the information
@ELSRG
@ELSRG Ай бұрын
You left out the Boeing merger with McDonnell-Douglas. The decline in quality control dates from that merger.
@speediestmoon1404
@speediestmoon1404 Ай бұрын
Let's goooo, I was waiting for Stakuyi to cover this!
@Bumeism
@Bumeism Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this. Love the videos
@Bored_Overthinker
@Bored_Overthinker Ай бұрын
I love your educational yet personable delivery, it makes these topics much easier to digest without it becoming a comedy show or a grim nightmare.
@Admiralsaxty9
@Admiralsaxty9 Ай бұрын
You do great work, Stak. I'm glad I am able to watch your awesome mini-docs.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte Ай бұрын
I guess Boeing and Sukhoi were indeed a match made in hell:D
@Zeoran
@Zeoran Ай бұрын
I'm actually surprised you didn't mention that Boeing had a great culture of safety & treated employees great until they were "merged" with McDonnel Douglas & the 'suits' took over, got rid of everyone who was part of that safety culture & created the situation where they find themselves today. For it to change would require a top-down purge of all executives & management belonging to the new profit-driven attitude.
@iampyu
@iampyu Ай бұрын
Thanks for this deep dive. One of the most in-depth and digestible videos on this topic that I've found.
@doriansebastian8065
@doriansebastian8065 Ай бұрын
Really High quality long format video!! Thank u for this.
@ComfyWombat
@ComfyWombat Ай бұрын
Boeing is the reason the term "Tombstone Engineering" exists.
@Grim147
@Grim147 Ай бұрын
Commenting because I listened to the podcast. Thank you for your time with researching, and posting great content!
@PureMaddness2151
@PureMaddness2151 Ай бұрын
Really enjoying listening to your podcast while at work keep up the great work
@christopherconkright1317
@christopherconkright1317 15 күн бұрын
Whistle blower 2 died now
@beast3911
@beast3911 Ай бұрын
I was waiting for this
@thedracas
@thedracas Ай бұрын
We need more people like you, that can think for themselves and then share in a concise way! keep up the good work.
@sandmandf
@sandmandf Ай бұрын
One very important note is when boeing acquired mcdonnell douglas. But it was the executives of Douglas that became the executives of boeing. Boeing use to be an engineering based company but since that take over they moved their HQ away from production plants and focused on profit. One step of selling off spirit aerosystems to save money.
@DakotaBroskie
@DakotaBroskie Ай бұрын
Not me rebooking my Moms flight after editing this video 😂😅
@newtonianpineapple2817
@newtonianpineapple2817 Ай бұрын
I wonder how this will affect COMAC, it might massively increase their international sales
@etuanno
@etuanno Ай бұрын
I doubt it, most likely the backlog of Airbus will further increase. Airbus already has a backlog of orders worth 10 years of production.
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