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@bartekabuz85511 ай бұрын
tan(pi/8)=sin(pi/4)/(1+cos(pi/4))=sqtr(2)-1 you could have used that
@daddy_myers11 ай бұрын
My dad always told me not to stick it in crazy, now I know exactly why he told me that.
@maths_50511 ай бұрын
😂😂
@daddy_myers11 ай бұрын
Great integral, bro. One ick I had about it was that it didn't evaluate to a nice value at the end and instead ended up with a bunch of radicals; however, apart from that, the integral was 🔥🔥.
@maths_50511 ай бұрын
@@daddy_myers this integral really did take by surprise. The journey with all those transformations was awesome but the simplification towards the end really was annoying.
@holyshit92211 ай бұрын
We can also calculate indefinite integral by substitution u = x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) This substitution will rationalize integrand
@MrWael197011 ай бұрын
tedious integral, but stunning solution. Thank you.
@DrAYOUBZ11 ай бұрын
you're one of the amazing mathematics channel which i'm studying hard with them , thank prof
@NurBiswas-fc6ty11 ай бұрын
This channel is really phenomenal.
@holyshit92211 ай бұрын
We can also simplify integrand by integration by parts twice Int(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) = x*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))-1/2Int(x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*(2x^3/sqrt(1+x^4))) Int(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) = x*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))-Int(x^4/(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+x^4)),x) Int(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) = x*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))-1/2*Int(2x^3/sqrt(1+x^4)*x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) d/dx x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) = (sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) - x*1/2*1/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*2x^3/sqrt(1+x^4))/(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) d/dx x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) = ((1+sqrt(1+x^4)) - x^4/sqrt(1+x^4))/((1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))) d/dx x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) = (sqrt(1+x^4)+1+x^4 - x^4)/((1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+x^4)) d/dx x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) = (1+sqrt(1+x^4))/((1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+x^4)) d/dx x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) = 1/(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+x^4)) Int(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) = x*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))-1/2*(x*sqrt(1+x^4)/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) - Int(sqrt(1+x^4)*1/(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))*sqrt(1+x^4)),x) Int(sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) = x*sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))-1/2*x*sqrt(1+x^4)/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4))+1/2*Int(1/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)),x) Now we can substitute u=x/sqrt(1+sqrt(1+x^4)) and it will be a liitle less calculations
@uvtears11 ай бұрын
omg u typed that all out?
@holyshit92211 ай бұрын
If we like Euler substitutions second one will be good option sqrt(1+x^4)=x^2u^2-1 In fact this is reciprocal of substitution which i previously proposed
@Aditya_1963 ай бұрын
Reading all that is gonna be hell painful
@pluieuwu11 ай бұрын
this is ridiculously cool.
@ishu453511 ай бұрын
Amazing Video Sir
@slavinojunepri764811 ай бұрын
Amazing solution
@manstuckinabox367911 ай бұрын
Get out of here... get out. that video should go down on why this channel is for the absolute mad men, and I can't be more happier to be part of it LOL! great video as always my dude.
@arthurc.183211 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!
@aryaghahremani930411 ай бұрын
this integral looks like when the professor is on vacation and the TA gives the homework instead
@firmkillernate11 ай бұрын
Integrals are the best puzzles
@MohamedachrafKadim-jm5yr11 ай бұрын
Nice bro
@bartekabuz85511 ай бұрын
W for using Wolfram alpha for partial fraction
@anupamamehra606811 ай бұрын
hi couldnt we have used integration by parts? like we have that sec^2x term inside the integral which is nicely the derivative of tanx wrtx
@dzuchun11 ай бұрын
just a normal problem they throw at you in your first year 😢
@ulfatunnegar768911 ай бұрын
Bro, Make videos on I.M.O problems
@giuseppemalaguti43511 ай бұрын
I=-arctgu-arcthu+4(u+(2/5)u^5+(3/9)u^9+(4/13)u^13+(5/17)u^17...u=sqrt (sqrt2-1)...=1,4449..l'ultima parte è una serie binomiale,non ho trovato di meglio..Thanks for the integrals
@laurencewigton246311 ай бұрын
If u=Sqrt[1+x^4] then Mathematica gives: Integrate[Sqrt[1+u],x] = (1/2)*(x*Sqrt[1+u] + ArcTan[x/Sqrt[1+u]] + ArcTanh[x/Sqrt[1+u]])
@The_Shrike11 ай бұрын
Hi, the new layout you use for the problems makes it so I can’t view the whole thing in full screen on mobile. Idk if you know what I’m talking about, but the issue only appears on the newer videos.
@maths_50511 ай бұрын
I forgot to use the full screen mode on the notes app for this video. Sorry about that I'll fix it for tomorrow's video
@yoav61311 ай бұрын
(Almost) impossible integral 😃💯
@notesfromundergroundenjoyer11 ай бұрын
2.5
@MortezaSabzian-db1sl11 ай бұрын
Like 👍
@petrie91111 ай бұрын
This can be considerably simplified through the application of trig identities. Letting w = 2^(-1/4), we have I = (2sqrt(sqrt(2) + 1) + arccosh(sqrt(2) + 1) + arccos(sqrt(2) - 1))/4 = (sqrt(w^2 + 1)/w + arcsinh(w) + arccos(w))/2 As for the derivation, for brevity, I'll write T = tan(pi/8). The logarithm term is equivalently 2 arctanh(sqrt(tan(pi/8)). Then we can use cosh(2 arctanh(x)) = (1+x^2)/(1-x^2) and cos(2 arctan(x)) = (1-x^2)/(1+x^2), meaning those terms are equivalently arccosh((1 + T)/(1-T)) and arccos((1-T)/(1+T)). Then we can use (1 + tan(x))/(1-tan(x)) = tan(x + pi/4) to simplify to arccosh(1/T) and arccos(T). Now we can use T = sqrt(2) - 1 to simplify the fraction term to get the first form above. Applying the half-angle identities to the inverse trig terms then gets the second. Using the above method, we can also get an explicit antiderivative of the original function. It comes out to (2x sqrt(1 + sqrt(1 + x^4)) + arccosh(sqrt(1 + x^4) + x^2) + arccos(sqrt(1 + x^4) - x^2)) / 4 which gives the value above when x = 1. I leave verification that the above differentiates to the integrand as an exercise to the reader. It should also be noted that the expressions inside the inverse trig functions are tangent half-angle formulae, but I can't seem to figure out a way to further simplify.