as i kid the only memory i have of their bodies is being like 7 and thinking the curve of their backs was really weird and funny looking lol

agreed. as long as i can remember i was always insecure of my body. i was OBSESSED with dolls and barbie’s and never once did i compare them to myself. i think seeing that they weren’t real and half the time couldn’t even bend their elbows i didn’t see them as real

same. I knew that they were not supposed to be realistic since they're dolls lol

Same, like I understood they were stylized and monsters. Like they look like a cotton ball on a stick, I didn't think I should look like that

As a fat kid I’d occasionally ponder on stuff like why their butts had a wack mold on them or why they are on their tippy toes 24/7 but never did i ever use my dolls for comparison. I just thought they were cool and i wanted to have their style of clothing.

Yeah I never felt like I needed to look like a doll, and even thought dolls looked really off compared to people, but my mom did waaaaay worse than a doll could ever dream to

they really said that then said “yeah!…. go play with a barbie!”

Bro I wasn't thinking about that as a child I just played with them and was like yahh cool dolls

ong

😂😂😂😭😭😭

I think Skelita represents the Day of the Dead? Idk.. I watched the DOTD episode of Luna the Moon on PBS Kids like 2 years ago.

​@@rh1nestone3yes Coco?

@@rh1nestone3yes Yeah it's Día de los Muertos in which culturally, the images of skeletons and skulls with paints and patterns are what represent the holiday. It's funny cuz Skelita is literally just another calaca that you've seen hundreds of time in Mexican products, like she's such an obvious fit to the Monster High universe for more culturally diverse characters, yet parents were still complaining despite her being one of the most accurate monsters in the franchise

​@@MiguelGonzalez-du8deI bet you they 'celebrate' the holiday too or at least consider the decor fun and bright/happy, but it's a problem on a doll?

@@MiguelGonzalez-du8deAgreed! It’s so stupid how they think that she’s culturally appropriated 🤦

For real I was impressed by that, I would’ve never thought of it

Also calling him Finnegan Wake lol

Frrr but honestly, I really don’t like the face model with the hair. I think it looks cool, but he also kind of just looks bald 😭

You know, looking at him with that name, mermaid would be a good catch all descriptor but specifically I think he would be a Merrow (Irish mermaid, can be sort of horrifying in legend). Don't mind me splitting hairs with the classification of merfolk.

​@@snuffy5321and that literary allusion name... How many kids would get it?

i love this comment 🤣

This made me snort, thank you random 30 year old man 😭😭😭

Respect 😂👏

go off king

Honestly me too Me too Slay king

Aww that’s so wholesome!

Cool

I love this, just wanted to say her name is Robecca Steam :) like a steam robot

Wow that’s so freaking cool

That is beautiful

I think I was more excited about the dolls than my Daughter was but she absolutely loved Monster High dolls. She still has a bunch of them saved. She is 16 now.

@@samsalamander8147 That's so sweet! It's nice to hear parents supporting their kids.

Lagoona is poc coded?

@@saraifuentes9821 In a sense, yes. She dealt with racism from both Gil, and the freshwater people.

​@@saraifuentes9821 i always considered her Indigenous Australian that loved nature and surfing (probably a stereotype now that I think about it) as a kid

My philosophy is this. It Not a problem if Barbie is skinny it becomes a problem if Barbie is the only option. The culture AROUND the doll is much more damaging and parents are putting their energy in the wrong place

Yes, as a child I just thought the proportions were a classic style for dolls in general. They never affected my perception of my own body or the body of anyone else.

Yeah I have body issues from other stuff, i never played with dolls as a kid (too “girly” for me, yeesh I was annoying) but I still knew that’s just how they looked.

Also its complicated to give dolls different body types because then you cant switch their clothes. Personally, i always liked to switch the different dolls outfits

​@@peacock.spooderI think that's excusing a very wealthy company who absolutely can afford to make more clothing that is larger, but doesn't. If they made more dolls outside of barbies specific mold it only would make sense to have to make more clothes too, but they only have like at most a few but usually one. One down syndrome doll, 1 plus sized doll, they even discontinued a wheel chair barbie bc they "couldn't redesign the dream house to accommodate her". Excusing this is sorta pretending that they are telling the truth, that they actually can't make these things when they can.

Fr mine always seem to make SOME kind a of comment of my body

same like dolls didn't give me body insecurities, that was my dad always talking about how i need to be more active and exercise so i won't be so fat 🙄

i just wanted my fashion to be like theirs

Truth lmao.

FORKRKEERE FOR REALLL Telling me I can’t wear this cause I’m black isn’t really something a doll could do for me

Honestly though. Children aren't born with the knowledge of what beauty standards are and what sexuality is. They literally don't care until someone tells them they should.

I can't understand people who blame dolls or celebrities or anything else on their own problems. I have luckily always been very confident and I have never ever been comparing myself to others. But that is not the case for most of the people, sadly. But blaming others and trying to point fingers is not gonna help. Those people need some help with the self esteem issues if it's not the parents, even a therapist would be a great option. We cannot possibly please every single person in this planet. Life is not fair and it's not anyones responsibility to make others feel good about themselves. Like if you are not happy with yourself, it's your responsibility to heal yourself. You are 100% right with your comment. 👌

@@_ivanche This!

I thought the exact same thing

*laughs in I've dealt with this bullshit my whole life and thats why I wasn't allowed to have Bratz dolls*

That was good. You really KILLED it lol

@@pastelrave7432im in stitches laughing at your comment😭😉

You can see your way out.

I agree when I was younger I never compared myself to dolls

literally all I wanted was their luscious hair 😂

the only thing i wanted from them was their outfits and I STILL DO

​@@eerinahisakawa3416your milo icon is simply the truth

I don't think it's the fact that kids don't think about that stuff, cause as much as we like to pretend that kids have no issue with body image, we know that's not true. I know for a fact that I had issues with body image and even though I didn't care TOO much as a 10 year old, I sure as hell cared as a 13 year old. (Although high school certainly didn't help.) That's the issue people are getting at when they complain about this kinda stuff, because although a literal child might not care about it, the minute puberty kids in, it can suddenly because a very big issue if they have a pre-existing idea of what it's acceptable to look like. Instead, I think the fact of the matter is simply that even at a young age, kids recognise stylisation. No, I wasn't skinny, but I also didn't have a head the size of a beachball. Kids, even at a young age, can tell the difference between cartoony things and realistic things. This is why I think it's more important for Barbie and more realistic dolls to have this kinda rep than the cartoony ones.

In other words, it will be like what Digimon is to Tamagotchi: A “boys’” version of a stereotypically feminine toy (remember the commercials for Tamagotchi and Digimon? The former tend to feature girls, the latter tend to feature boys (even though there are boys who like Tamagotchi and girls who like Digimon)).

This is… so true

There already boys in the franchise, but they don’t act as the protagonists.

Same but I still identify that way, my pronouns are bio/nicle

@@RustyShackleford420 Same i also identify like that, my pronouns are trans/former im also trans because of it

You know, my family gives me body image issues all the time. So it’s not the doll’s fault. It’s the parents!

LMAO

Trans rights

I am super thankful that my mom liked monster high and let me play with them. She LOVED Skelita and I am so sad she never bought one!

my mom loved all of my dolls that i had, and so did my dad. they both hung out with me and played with them with me, and they loved literally every doll i had, and they still love them

same my mum loved getting me and my sister monster high dolls 🥺

I mom also loved the dolls- But she was also emo in highschool along with brutalizing all her barbies sooo

The secret heroes of Monster High, the Queens from Testing. Hope they are thriving now

Its true kids sometimes just take in whatever mediocre media its cynicaly shved in their faces, but also, sometimes do really know what they want and have good taste. Or at least a fresh perspective

Fr!! Who the hell thinks girls don’t like green?? I absolutely love green which was one of the reasons Frankie was my fav!! 😂😂

Honestly

To be fair in Mary Shelley's book it's described as "yellow".

I mean there was a literal study done on the doll thing though, and it DID find that skinny dolls sometimes generated negative self image where a full figured doll found positive self image. "Dolls cause body issues" is an oversimplification and dismisses that it is a small bit of evidence of a MUCH larger problem societally. Dolls dont CAUSE the issues, but they reinforce and ideology that already exists and is pushed onto young girls in everything they watch. Body diversity in dolls is something we should push for (especially better body diversity than Barbies frankly pathetic attempt. Shes just short and a little wide, thats not plus size) but i do agree that blaming dolls for how they bring out a symptom of a larger societal issue is narrow minded. :)

Also there may be less emphasis on the male dolls because body standards for men work VERY differently. Male bodies dont get policed with as much ferocity as female ones. I cant tell you how many times ive seen, say a plus size man on tiktok making a joke or whatever and no comments mention his body at all vs how almost EVERY plus size woman gets body hate for literally minding her business. Male body standards revolve around strength and aren't super heavily enforced, but womens revolve around sex appeal (if fatphobia was about worry for fat womens "health" then why do men call female bodybuilders unattractive? /srs) and thinness and numbers and calories. Its not really a fair argument. Little boys know he man is fictional and wont be pressured to start weightlifting, but i and countless others had the "Come to Weight Watchers with Mommy" talk. This is NOT to say men cant struggle, but just that its MORE prevalent with women (almost twice the amount of women with EDs vs men, it is a societal thing).

Unfortunatly it is not dead. it just moved to twitter and found more or less "new" targets (videogames, anime, manga...)

I never look at a doll and felt insecure as a kid 😭

I mean as a kid I was taught that Barbies were fat and played with monster high dolls instead

G3 has a slightly curvy Draculaura and Frankie (now non-binary) now has a bionic leg.

And they're dolls, looking realistic isn't something they need to be tbh.

​@@nicholaslienandjaja1815wow that feels extremely tonedeaf for them. frankie is a patched-up experiment and there's already controversies about kids getting gender affirming surgeries that may or may not be experimental before they're even 18... yikes

Even if they added inclusivity, personaly i hate the designs. The gen 1 was just So iconic and beautiful with So much thought And care put into them. When i checked gen 3 it was... rather Bitter if i can be honest

@@nicholaslienandjaja1815 Abbey is also curvy now

OMG I DID THIS TOO My Raven was having a star crossed romance with Porter Geist despite them being on different sides of the war. Also Porter was my only guy doll so literally everyone else was lesbian lol

@evabible9770 lmaooo I think I had 4 cause I had Duce, Slo Mo, Hunter, and a Ken doll but I literally made Duce and Slo Mo fall in love everytime because I thought their colors looked good together lol

another thing is that the ghouls never needed a man to help them, there weren’t really ever fights over boys, just friendship tussles.

@@eevaanh8386 💯

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Honestly I couldn't agree more (Frankie was my gay awakening and oh boy. I have so many Frankie dolls lol)

Right!!

It's literally the society who teach plus-size-people to hate themselves, not some dolls.Also this means, that you can dress up in everything from the other dolls

Exactly! Same here. They're literally supposed to be just monsters. How stupid do parents think their kids are?

i completely agree with this. monster high never made me feel bad about myself because they were so unrealistic. i think if they had introduced plus size characters it would have been a problem. i would have started thinking about it because id realize they couldnt wear any of the thinner characters clothing.

same i didnt care about the dolls body they was so pretty like how they look i just wanted to play with them i never thought that way

Kids literally never care about how dolls look unless their own parents are obsessed with appearances. All they see is a lovely and cool looking doll. Saying that as a woman who owned Barbies, Bratz and at least one Monster High doll growing up.

Awww, Operetta was my mom's favourite, too!!!

my moms fav was venus because of her shaved head!!

I always assumed that too

I wanted to share this because I remembered a crossover being mentioned in 2019 or somewhere around that time; kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lZmqZNVirrvSfnk.html

That's so sad though, she moves to a school where she feels like she has to "soften" herself to fit in

that honestly makes a lot of sense since no one at ever after high would be used to seeing a straight up MONSTER as a student and they are all already kind of stuck in their roles as "good guys" and "bad guys" so if she showed up in her original form then she'd have just been assumed to be a villain and likely be feared as one.

Agreed

I know! As a Mexican too I loved the execution of her design, especially the papel picado skirt, that's a great touch. I didn't know she existed as a kid, but I would have loved to have her as well

Thank you for calling it "altar" rather than "ofrenda" (cringe) altar is what they taught me its actually called growing up lol

@@alejandrocervantes3624 if you don't mind me asking, why is "altar" preferred over "ofrenda"? i'm not mexican myself, but i'd like to be as respectful as possible to my friends who celebrate it.

@@mothma_am dont worry Its more of a personal hang up really. The word "ofrenda" Can be aplied, but since ive noticed more people only started to call it "ofrenda" cause thats what they call it in "Coco", makes me kinda "icky" specially after the whole "atempting to buy a mexican holliday to sell our movie" also the full name its "altar de muertos" which transltes to "altar of the dead" which is so badass, as opossed to "ofrenda" that just means "offering" 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏾‍♂️🇲🇽

@@alejandrocervantes3624 wey, ofrenda y altar son terminos que se usan de igual manera en el dia de los muertos

Fr I want it

there was also going to be a crossover, it was featured in one of the eah books too

@@soliarsystem Yeah, I saw, and I also saw that a kitsune character was going to make her debut in that cross-over movie too.

Thanks for teaching me something new 🙂

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I also think that Isi Dawndancerwasn't offensive, because the Design team were very respectful about the Culture they borrowed, they didn't make her as a Wendigo but rather a deer spirit, in my Native Friend's opinion, it's indearing and light hearted

This part, I’m also Mexican and never saw anything offensive in the doll, I think it’s just people trying to be offended, but not actual Mexicans, we loved this

YES MORE MEXICANS THAT LOVE SKELITA I ADORED HER AS A CHILD AND STILL DO HER DESIGN IS RLLY COOL‼️

Your mom is dope

You're mom's a real mvp

really appreciate your mom putting her biases to the side to let you try something of your own volition. Sounds like it paid off in the end

@@lithiumkid Like for example, she doesn’t like them

based also i love ur name

Plot twist!

I also want to say that when Rochelle was introduced, she was on an all guy rollerskating team. She wore a helmet so none of them knew she was a girl and when all her guy teammates said that girls can't skate, she came out (lol) and joined up with our main cast essentially saying they inspired her to be true to herself. so yeah she's definitely an icon

@@beller6719 Amazing!! I didn't know that, and it makes me happy to hear.

There’s also a scene (I think in Freaky Fusion) where she tells Lagoona she would like to swim but can’t because she’s “too heavy and will sink”. Obviously, she’s a stone gargoyle. But I also think maybe she still has body dysphoria. Swimsuits can be a big hurdle to jump.

@@beller6719 That was actually Robecca

@@faeustehoch no Robecca steam was the robot girl they put back together

I do wish there were more closeted gay rep in media so people feel they aren't alone

i was like this until i realised. i wish they went through with that story

@@piss7610 exactly, it would have connected with so many kids

Yeah that was totally an excuse, a shame really

I know. I'm going through this exact problem as a creator. I'm working on a webseries for someone else, and I wanted to make a character NB, but they told me that I couldn't do that because basically, if anything bad happened to them, or if they did anything bad, it would be "putting the community in a bad light" and "offending people", which just left me gobsmacked. Like... so you're telling me LGBTQ+ people only want flawless Mary Sues? 'Cause idk about that one chief, I feel like a character with no flaws is even more insulting. Enbies aren't so stupid that they would think one NB character doing something wrong means we think ALLLLL NB people do the exact same wrong thing! Btw, the character is a happy-go-lucky student whose story arc involves them slowly maturing over time. That's it. That's what's horribly offensive, apparently. Oh, and another excuse I got was that we "didn't know enough about Enbies to represent them" even though my only sibing and a good friend of mine are both NB. Goes without saying my NB relations thought the character was fine. If anything, they wanted MORE flaws to make them a bit more interesting. Just... Ugh. It's cowardly how much these people preach about uniqueness and celebrating differences but you know what? It's hard to be unique, it's hard to be different. You have to make a stand and risk failure when you do that. And if you think producing an LGBTQ+ cast is hard *imagine what it's like actually being alone and LGBTQ+!!* It could really connect with people and make a difference to have inclusive casts like that but nope. Too busy virtue signaling whilst shooting down actual attempts by the people working for them to practice what they preach. Cowards. Whoa, sorry for the rant, just... It hit a nerve when they told me such weaksauce excuses and it hurt again when I saw it here. X'D

De echo si mi madre me la compro porque penso que era una catrina

yes !! including jinafire

Ah yes!!! Same here I was so happy when they released an animated short of her💕

As a Hispanic myself, me personally, (can't speak for others) I absolutely ADORED Skelita! I found it so cool to have my culture represented in a cool way!

@@yungzyzzle i ADORED jinafire, I would beg my mom to get me one for my birthday but she was never in stock where I lived lol

I remember getting emotional because Bonita had canon anxiety disorder and stressed about little things. I cherish this doll because she is so utterly gorgeous, probably the most beautiful MH doll ever made but also because she is like me in so many ways.

I appreciate this opinion. I would also go as far to say that the accents never really bothered me growing up lol

I agree bro, like their supposed to be characters from different cultures and not everyone can afford voice actors from literally ALL OVER THE WORLD!! What are the voice actors supposed to do? Not try their best and just make them all sound American? Smh

And most of the time, even the British accent isn’t well done ‘cRumPeTs aNd tEA’

Also, some people theorize that Ghoulia Yelps is autistic. So hats off to Monster High for NOT portraying a (possible) autistic as a comic relief or an idiot.

Wow shocker it’s almost like American media is predominantly for Americans….

Literally! Tbh, not sure about anyone else, but when I had Barbie dolls back when I was three, that first thing that always ended up happening was me ripping off and losing the clothes, so it was always just these nude lady dolls scattered around my room, lmao Something like Monster High would've been so much nicer since I would have actually like them and their fashion sense as opposed to barbie's dumb pink aesthetic that I hated sm. Even nowadays, when I look at og MH dolls I can't help by want to get into them.

@@Morrynlupine I was thinking the same thing. Like most dolls end up naked anyway when kids play with them. Why does their clothing matter, the unnecessarily drama I put my dolls threw (although when Monster High came I was 13 an no one played with dolls but I got a few an kept them but I don't have a lot of them anymore from moving so much. But my Littlest Pet Shops was like Desperate Housewives with all the drama I put those dolls threw.

@@Morrynlupine having naked barbie dolls scattered everywhere is part of millennial and gen z childhood at this point lmao

I was very excited for Ever After High since Disney always seems to have a monopoly on classic fairytales. At least Mattel's cash grab would've given us a refreshing take on these storylines rather than Descendants' many plotholes.

The journal entry never said her body hair was bad which I like, just that shaving made her feel fabulous

yeah i think as a very hairy kid i would much rather have had some acknowledgment of body hair just as a concept than blatantly ignoring it. at least i would have known i wasnt the only hairy girl on earth lol

unrelated but i remember how much i loved my frankie doll's "tummy pouch." all dolls were skinny, but it felt as if only the monster highs didn't have a flat stomach, and as a chubby kid it did make me feel better about myself versus the barbies that were pretty flat. i bet if i had gotten a clawdeen at 11 it wouldve helped me too with my hair insecurities

It did the same for me. Speaking of I just bought a creeproduction clawdeen and I’m so excited to get her in the mail.

that’s beyond sweet actually i’m gonna sob

Clawdeen and Cleo aren’t black. Clawdeen is clearly Latina, and Cleo is Egyptian/middle eastern.

@@obvioustroll3736 Clawdeen isn’t Latina- they don’t really have a race. Apart from Cleo who’s clearly Egyptian. I’m talking about how I viewed them when I was younger. If she was to be a race however- I would say she’s black but that’s obvs just my opinion

@@beauty-jc9xy yeah, they’re monsters but I always thought clawdeen was Latina because I grew up in a very Hispanic populated area and everyone looked and sounded very similar to her with the hair and all. Me being Latina as well, seeing her brought awe to me since you pretty much never see Hispanic dolls or characters of anything. They’re either white, and maybe a token black character and it’s like nobody else exist.

@@obvioustroll3736 I agree and I think that’s y I also resonated with clawdeen- she was the only character that looked like me

@@obvioustroll3736 Clawdeen is confirmed to be Black. Cleo is Arab.

Same! Like ffs i was 9 years old why would I care about their bodies- I just loved the clothing and the excitement of opening up a new doll

yeah, while i think it's nice to feel represented - like have a doll look like you whether that's a skin color, body type disability, whatever- even as a kid i was able to separate it like. that's a doll, and this is me, a human person. we're not really meant to look alike

@@catgf7410 Yes! Although i do find it disappointing that they white washed clawdeen and howleen- like changing the skintone for different versions of the doll and how howleen's hair went from a curly, short, afro texture to a wavy, long, thin texture. I do think it is cool that they represented 'racism' in one of their movies- that was cool to teach kids

Same, they were MONSTERS too and it was clear they were stylized and more like caricatures of people. It never occurred to me to want to look like that

@@ginger7055 I would let clawdeens hair go if they made it clear she just changed her hair a lot as some black women like to do, but the skin tone change was inexcusable

Long time ago in the middle ages the church prohibited any fantasy, visual art or imitation. And that continued for a long time and stuck to people to this day.

Hoo yeah, that reminds that my very-religious-at-the-time mom wouldn't let me buy ANY of the monster high dolls because she saw them as ""demonic"" (I still snuck in episodes of the series tho, lol)

(It’s the Christianity)

I remmebered people talking about dnd... And fantasy video games.. Even if youre fighting literal demons in there

Only Christians think that way normal adults mainly complain about the clothes and how “skimpy” it looks

One time this guy told me he shoves his monster high dolls up his 🕳

it was one of my gay awakenings

@@Maukiki when i found out clawdeen was a lesbian it brought me back back to my childhood when i use to make my clawdeen and draculaura dolls kiss

Sadly the same cannot be said about ever after high (╯︵╰,)

@@fayetopias Damn id throw them aganist the wall even tho i loved them LMAO

Not only that, but is also culturally correct too. Here in Mexico we have Catrinas figures. They are basically High class ladies' skeletons and they have very huge attributes, but, reaaally marked attributes, they have always been like that.

and makes sense why the physical changes they DO make (like abi’s bigger hands) don’t mess w the clothes

My thoughts exactly. Her feet are arched so she can share shoes,duh. This YT'ber must not collect dolls. Seemed more like a bash of MH.

My thoughts exactly. Her feet are arched so she can share shoes,duh. This YT'ber must not collect dolls. Seemed more like a bash of MH.

@@xdani_thethinkingneko Girl she just didn't know. It's not that serious.

My mom thought they were cool so she bought them for me as presents for holidays and birthdays. I was obsessed for a while.

I totally loved them, and so did all of my friends, but I was the only one who was allowed to have them. I grew up in a fairly Christian community so my friends parents all thought they were "demonic"

My mom did the same

my mom did this with anime from a public library and it was AMAZING

sameee, my mum was so obsessed with the shoes and im pretty sure she was more into them me lol but its just something we bonded over and im so happy that she only saw them as dolls and not some "evil and demonic" thing.

Her swirls and spikes on her body are also reallyyy cool!

I also have her and her curls mostly look fresh outta box!! The back of her head is a little flat bcuz of lying her down so much but they're so gorgeous and defined still

honey swamp's hair is so perfect omg, mine is still perfect even being out of the box ahhh

I don't have a honey swamp doll but from all the pictures I've seen her hair does seem to always look good unlike most curly doll hair that easily tangles

I completely agree with you besides the fact I was 5-7 when I played with them I never even cares about that I just thought they were pretty

I absolutely agree! I was around 8-10 I believe when I had these dolls. I never once looked at their bodies and thought I wanted to be that skinny, nor did I ever think they were ugly. I always loved them because of how different they are! They were and are still are seen as beautiful to me, and if anything, they boosted my creativity! I feel that parents were reading way too into it. I could understand their concerns about body image, but when you're that young- the only time you worry about body image is when it is implanted by your parents. I believe that way, at least...

"We took Disney for granted" should be the motto for every Disney remake

Because taking Disney for granted in any shape or form is astronomically dumb, ESPECIALLY for a CEO who should KNOW how HUMUNGUS Disney is. Like, Who TF was the head of Mattel at the time??? He just seems to make bad decision on top of bad decision on top of bad decision. And not only with the Disney thing. seriously.

Frrr

This is the exact situation I'm in right now, I just ordered g3 Draculaura yesterday because I saw her body shape and extra chest joint and cute face mold and swooned instantly. I've never cared about dolls growing up and only really had the faintest interest a few years ago when I realised I could customise old ones to hell and back. G3 Draculaura is the first time I've seen a doll and adored it purely as is and had to have one. It's nice to see fellow adults who have similar experiences with dolls. It felt like everyone I knew played with dolls growing up, which I didn't 'get; at the time, yet now very few adults like to have interestes that are 'childish' simply to conform to some made up standard (enjoying something you like isn't childish, pandering to some stupid made up rules about what makes someone an adult is childish)

I fucking lost it at the first review like damn lady just buy her the doll. So much projecting on her end.

yes exactly like. who sees a children's toy and thinks these things

I didn’t know if you were aware, but the reproduction dolls are in select Walmarts right now (at least in the US), as well as Walmart and Mattel’s websites! Plus they’re planning on rebooting the dolls later this year I believe.

Me too! I miss them and honestly wish they make a comeback!

When I heard that I immediately thought "What the fuck does that even mean‽" because it's such a strange thing to say.

I am girl adjacent and my favorite color is green what the hell?

Corporate people always have the strangest ideas about their target demographics.

Majority of higher ups in these companies are older men (mattels male ceo is 40-ish iirc?). They don't know shit about teenage girls lmao

@@smirnoffice8859 but... girls can't like any color other than pinks and purples and pastels!!!!!!!! /s

Skelita was designed by a Mexican American woman so I don't think it really falls under "appropriation".

Fellow Mexican here!! Completely agree with this!!

In that section out of the 4 dolls pictured I’ve never heard anyone say culture appropriation, I cannot speak for the others but I know Isis dawn dancer in beloved by me and fellow Native Americans, although we wished they would’ve chose one tribe to focus on instead of a conglomeration of different Native American cultures. Happy to see that our cultures are represented and found nothing appropriative about it

I think it’s really cool how they made her out of bones! They were obviously put in a hard place with making sure she was shaped in a way that the clothes fit her, and they could’ve EASILY only gone halfway, but they didn’t :)

i honestly wish white people would stop getting triggered on behalf of POC. It's the Speedy Gonzales discourse all over again,

Yeah, I think she was the coolest one I saw in the video. I was never really into Monster High when I was young, so I might start collecting. It sucks that they got discontinued because I totally would have been into them if I had been older when they were popular.

“Cultural appropriation!” they cry, then wonder where all the diverse content has gone.

She was actually designed by Natalie Villegas, who is Mexican-american ans put a lot of herself into skelita

Yeah, I'm Brazilian which is very different than Mexican, but I remember when I was little I was obsessed with skellita and Abby's cousin whom I forgot the name, cuz they always felt closer to home

@@sischaotica well g3 is coming out and getting them second hand is pretty easy as long as you're careful about how much you should spend

The important issues like how did Frankenstein's monster even reproduce

@@Windwalker88 Those are the important questions. You read my mind

@@Windwalker88 In one of the movies, Frankie tells the teacher she was made by her father the same way Frankenstein made him

@@Windwalker88 she was built by using deceased human/monster parts then brought to life by her father!

monster high has been dead for a long time now.

Definitely not an unpopular opinion.

Totally not an unpopular opinion bc I ain't gaf about Descendants when it first came out lmaoo. Like it was cool and I liked the movies or what not. But EAH literally was my show fr, I loved it just as much as MH and it had the potential to be really popular. Growing up I met so many people who liked the show so it sucks that Disney was playing the lawsuit game and they had to cancel it. EAH executed it better and all the people saying it was a weird copy cat of descendants is lying idc idc 😭

I agree!! EAH is wayyyy better than Descendants

EAH did so many things better than descendants did

YES YES YES YES YES YES EHA IS GREAT!!!!

Thank you. So many white people see Skelita and immediately say she's offensive without even listening to the Mexican community. It's so gross

@@inuiri8365 What?! Bruh I LOVE Skelita’s design! As someone from the UK, I’ve always loved the aesthetics and meaning behind the Day of the Dead, so to see a character who represented that aspect of the culture was always so cool to me. Even to this day she remains as one of my favourite MH designs.

One time I went as Skelita for Halloween, it was so awesome tbh :D

@@inuiri8365 I agree, I’ve only seen white people complain about her design, but me and my family and my other Latino friends absolutely adored her design and connection to culture, sure the day of the dead thing is generic but her outfit was creative and she had personality

I wasn’t a big monster high fan when I was little but I loved seeing a Mexican doll like me, I think I dressed up as her for Halloween one year

That’s really cool! I’m glad monster high’s very pastel and gothic fashion is reaching even the most un-intended audiences 😄

Your mother is pretty based

They said only *black* character

I always saw Cleo as black but light-skinned since mummification is an ancient Egyptian practice and ancient Egyptians were black (before Arabs, Greeks, etc. came over and mixed).

@@katie2275 but she still wasn’t even the only black character, honestly a lot of characters seemed black to me growing up even with the blue or green skin tones

@@nevoodles8210 For sure 🤞🏾characters like Toralei along with her goons, Bonita, and of course Honey Swamp (inarguably) def struck me as black characters

@@nanodere nefera is lightskin black

So sad that the rebooted series is butchering those messages.

@@cameronmcewen9666 how's it butchering the message?

@@eaovark5353 I’d tell you to watch to find out for yourself, but then your eyes would bleed.

@@cameronmcewen9666 ?? are you talking about the second wave? thought u meant the third wave was going against the message, which was released after the video was published. what r u being rude for

@@eaovark5353 The third wave IS against the message.

As a kid when i looked at dolls I never thought about having to be like that, it was always a person outside of toys and stuff 💀

Yep they did the same thing to us when I was younger with Bratz. Mind you we only ever saw Bratz as fashion play dolls but then you had those weird adults. Who mind you were never the target demographic. Look at a doll in a weird way. Also if you notice, any dolls that have any sort of ethic background or look to them get sexualized. Because when when a Caucasian little girl does it, it is cute. A little girl that is POC does it, it is sexual. And that's just weird 😒

did not expect to see you here, but same for me

Same

same

Bro me to sooooooo old😂😂😂😂

Lol I feel even older. I was already in Late middle school/ Highschool by the time they came out

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why? Is it offensive? /genq

@@ilovecatssosomuch I believe it's because not everyone needs a wheelchair at all points in time, some people only walking aids/wheelchairs sometimes, so the community prefers wheelchair user so it includes everyone who uses one.

@@ilovecatssosomuch please do not bring the / things to KZfaq. Keep them in twitter and tiktok please

@@RaHELLaable 😭brah who cares its just a text tone. “keep them in tik tok and twitter 🤓”

It does look cool, it's a pity some adults over-think or attempt to justify their existence (often ones WITHOUT kids btw) by simply trying to take fun things away from kids. Yet, lately, ironically, there is also this creepy trend by the same type of people to put all kinds of inappropriate and adult ideas into cartoony images.

THANK YOU!!! Izzy is white and complaining about appropriation, while many people of these cultures who these dolls represent love them!

honestly i get what izzy was saying ab appropriation, especially in regards to dolls like isi dawndancer but skelita was p well received by mexicans so that threw me off lol

LITERALLYY im also mexican and have only known about Skelita for an hour now but if anyone tried to take her away from me I would explode then again I'm just a sucker for dia de los muertos themed characters lol

Giving the fact that the designer behind Skelita IS Mexican…

Wait what about that last scene from the movie boo york boo york ? they see astranova talking from the mh to her friends that are from eah

@@otc16 That was also a hint foreshadowing the crossover movie

This might have 100% been a weird fever dream but I swear I remember watching some sort of crossover between mh and eah. I don’t remember much of the actual details but there was a group of characters walking in some underground sewer type thing? And I’m pretty sure one dudes name was Norman and he kept being made fun of for the name. At the end of the tunnel I remember there being some sort of party and possibly a rivalry between the two schools? Now that I actually typed it out I’m pretty sure I’m confusing this with something else but whatever if you know what I’m thinking of please lmk

@@presley_presley Have you read the crossover book tho? Maybe you just visualized what happened in the book and thought it was a movie or something. I might be completely wrong, so if anyone knows anything about something similar, please respond! I'm so curious!

@@presley_presley I did find a character called Norman collossal hes the son of the collosal man from the movie of the same name but idk if thats the same norman you are fererring to..

bro back in elementary school and we used to have those scholastic book fairs, mind you not there are boys who bought Monster High stuff.

My brother liked monster high a lot too!! It’s just an awesome franchise

Good for you man! Idk why some older people care so much what adults spend their own money on. Especially if its a completely harmless hobby.

i got into monster high a few weeks ago, my first movie was "why do ghouls fall inlove" and i started becoming interested with Valentine. and oh damn, i hated him so much until his diary, which i read from a wiki (like i wish i had his doll but ehfud) turns out hes the most monster i could relate to , to think that monster high is just some edgy fashion doll line, i didnt expect that there would be a character that i could see myself into and hes gay which made me feel so happy, like i know its not explicitly stated but ive been here on this planet for a long time and one does not simply "space out" over the same gender

Hey, im a boy too and i want to start collecting too (not just specifically monster high), but i can't even think about trying to do it while my parents are... My parents So, as a guy who kind of did what i want to do, is there some kind of advice you could give to me? Like, some way for me to do it? Im young, (12y) and my life is mostly controlled by my parents, so its pretty difficult for me to get, but anything you say could help me or at least will make me more confortable, so pls say anything you have in your head about this subject lol

Same!!!

I love Valentine so much as a character so I strongly second this

@@fur8104 lol, it was referring to monster high. But either way I won't debate pronouns with someone I don't know

@@PatientStriderArt The funny thing is that “it” is actually a pronoun 😂

@@neb.9489 yea, a lot of my friends use it/its/itself. I'm just not gonna to fight abt the validity about them on a video that has nothing to do with it, yknow? Seems pointless

This is soooo cute 🥹🥹🥹

You have an amazing mom

When I was a kid I took this camera that my parents had for trips and I'd make 'stop motions' of my MH dolls. I didn't know how to do anything other than taking pictures tho so whenever I showed my mom I'd just bring her the camera and flip as fast through the gallery as I could.

Always love your mom

this is so beautiful, thank you for sharing