A detailed critique of Spider-Man: Lotus

A detailed critique of Spider-Man: Lotus - Spoiler Review

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11 ай бұрын

After 2 years in the making, some insane hype, some insane controversy and a budget a fan filmmaker could typically only DREAM of, Spider-Man: Lotus is here, and I'll be giving a detailed critique on it as a piece of film.
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Spider-Man is a superhero appearing in American comic books published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer-editor Stan Lee and artist Steve Ditko, he first appeared in the anthology comic book Amazing Fantasy #15 (August 1962) in the Silver Age of Comic Books. He has been featured in comic books, television shows, films, video games, novels, and plays.
Spider-Man's secret identity is Peter Benjamin Parker, a teenage high school student and an orphan raised by his Aunt May and Uncle Ben in New York City after his parents Richard and Mary Parker died in a plane crash. Lee and Ditko had the character deal with the struggles of adolescence and financial issues and gave him many supporting characters, such as Flash Thompson, J. Jonah Jameson, and Harry Osborn; romantic interests Gwen Stacy, Mary Jane Watson, and the Black Cat; and enemies such as the Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, and Venom. In his origin story, Spider-Man gets his superhuman spider-powers and abilities after being bitten by a radioactive spider; these include superhuman strength, agility, reflexes, stamina, durability, coordination, and balance, clinging to surfaces and ceilings like a spider, and detecting danger with his precognition ability called "spider-sense". He builds wrist-mounted "web-shooter" devices that shoot artificial spider-webs of his own design, which he uses both for fighting and for web-swinging across the city. Peter Parker originally used his powers for his own personal gain, but after his Uncle Ben was killed by a thief that Peter could not stop, he began to use his powers to fight crime by becoming Spider-Man.
When Spider-Man first appeared in the early 1960s, teenagers in superhero comic books were usually relegated to the role of sidekick to the protagonist. The Spider-Man comic series broke ground by featuring Peter Parker, a high school student from Queens, New York, as Spider-Man's secret identity, whose "self-obsessions with rejection, inadequacy, and loneliness" were issues to which young readers could relate.[8] While Spider-Man was a quintessential sidekick, unlike previous teen heroes Bucky Barnes and Robin, Spider-Man had no superhero mentor like Captain America and Batman; he had learned the lesson for himself that "with great power comes great responsibility"-a line included in a text box in the final panel of the first Spider-Man's origin story, but later retroactively attributed to the late Uncle Ben Parker.
Spider-Man is one of the most popular and commercially successful superheroes.[10] He has appeared in countless forms of media, including several animated TV series: the first original animated series Spider-Man, with Paul Soles voicing the titular character, a live-action television series, syndicated newspaper comic strips, and multiple series of films. Spider-Man was first portrayed in live-action by Danny Seagren in Spidey Super Stories, a recurring skit on The Electric Company from 1974 to 1977.[11] In live-action films, Spider-Man has been portrayed by actors Tobey Maguire in Sam Raimi's Spider-Man trilogy, by Andrew Garfield in two films directed by Marc Webb,[12] and in the Marvel Cinematic Universe by Tom Holland. Reeve Carney originally starred as Spider-Man in the 2010 Broadway musical Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark.[13] Spider-Man was also voiced by Jake Johnson and Chris Pine in the animated film Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. Spider-Man has been well-received as a superhero and comic book character; he is often ranked as one of the most popular and iconic comic book superheroes of all time and in all of fiction.
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@Josh-ez5hf 11 ай бұрын

Trauma dumping isn't the worst thing about his relationship with Timmy, it's that the only memory he's ever going to have with Spider-Man is being told that everything he loved about him was worthless

@tameston5467 11 ай бұрын

Fan films don’t need to be feature length unless you’re actually proficient at filmmaking

@braydonleadbetter7474 11 ай бұрын

I'm saying. I'm also wondering, with that 6 figure budget, why not hire local professionals to help with this film and make it half the length? I was really taken out of it by the lack of simple things like consistent production design and detailed art direction. Things that make movies feel like movies. The way it was shot is also very inconsistent. Sometimes the composition and lighting is great, then sometimes out of nowhere it feels like they ran out of time and just had to get the shot with no real thought behind it. It's obvious most of the budget was spent on VFX.

@MadWinter889 11 ай бұрын

Nobody would've complained if it was 90 minutes.

@tameston5467 11 ай бұрын

@@MadWinter889 90 minutes is still too long- 30-45 would have been better

@user-gw3bs2in5i 11 ай бұрын

I think that's Lotus's biggest weak point tbh. There are times when it feels like a fan film trying a little to hard to be a movie that you'd see in theaters (the mentality that some people had of "this is what a spider-man movie should be" definitely doesn't help with that vibe). I feel like the people involved could have started off with Lotus as like, a jumping off point or something and then sharpened their filmmaking skills onward. This is, of course, taking all the controversy out of the equation.

@fynnthefox9078 11 ай бұрын

A lot of great fan films are much shorter and don't cost 100 grand.

@jhwk71 11 ай бұрын

I don't think people caught on to why Peter was so ignorant about Norman dying to Harry. Norman killed Gwen and Peter is the only one who knows that, not to mention he has to pretend that he feels sorry for Norman dying to Harry when in reality he probably still hates him for killing Gwen.

@JPdraws_ 11 ай бұрын

I honestly didn’t even think of that tbh

@ALMOSTNKKD 11 ай бұрын

It wasn't conveyed very well but it makes sense.

@surrcram 11 ай бұрын

Harboring hate for norman doesn't automatically make peter obvlivious as to why harry didn't want to go. If it portrayed peter being intentionally ignorant then it'll make more sense. He just comes off as tone-deaf, especially when Harry actually mentions that his dad died and Peter looks suprised like he forgot that the guy who killed his girlfriend is actually Harry's dad. If it made peter out to be hateful to the point he intentionally ignores that norman was Harry's dad, then cool. Sadly the writers and Peter's actor couldn't pull it off.

@user-x7dc2pq7n 11 ай бұрын

Norman didn’t die to Harry. He was impaired by his glider in the opening credits

@NicotineDaydreams 11 ай бұрын

@@user-x7dc2pq7nyou clearly didn’t watch the movie lol. The kitchen scene where Peter and Harry are arguing they acknowledged Normans death.

@brad_hensil 11 ай бұрын

My personal favorite Spider-Man fan film is 1992’s “The Green Goblin’s Last Stand” by Dan Poole. It was made for $500 and was shot on VHS, but Poole was able to retell the stories of “The Death of Gwen Stacey” and “The Green Goblin’s Last Stand” quite spectacularly.

@autobotproductions1244 11 ай бұрын

I saw that one. it was fantastic. and tbh, had a better Goblin costume

@jordana.7803 11 ай бұрын

glad someone else knows what that is haha

@akiraeatsguitarpicks491 11 ай бұрын

And he managed to do it without being racist! Shocker

@user-gw3bs2in5i 11 ай бұрын

Oh hey, I think I remember seeing that one when I was way younger. Good times.

@Gemnist98 10 ай бұрын

I’ve seen parts of it. Definitely rough around the edges, but it avoids so many of this movie’s pitfalls.

@OliverTheRicketts 11 ай бұрын

The only Spider-Man lotus review I’ve legitimately been anticipating

@Chaoticz_official 11 ай бұрын

Same

@jacobcobb4970 11 ай бұрын

FAX

@zericswords 11 ай бұрын

True

@Maximum_Spider-Man 11 ай бұрын

Nah fr tho

@retrohero2762 11 ай бұрын

Cosmonaut is making a video on Lotus too lmao

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

This movie also needed aunt may it definitely did and it didn’t add it. She could have helped Peter since she lost Ben to someone

@dastanovich2476 11 ай бұрын

Unironically wouldn't mind someone do a Non-Director's Cut that remove 20-25 min of footage and rearranges certain scenes for better pacing. Lotus has potential, but it can't fully achieve it yet in its current state

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

I would have removed the opening credits , wouldn’t have shown the first scene and have it in the middle or the end to have a bigger hit. End the movie with the ending intro credit song and use the images of the intro as the outro

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

Also add a bit more Harry and MJ. Let see Harry how’s he’s dealing with Gwen death to mirror Peter.

@Antwannnn 11 ай бұрын

cant fix the acting

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

@@Antwannnn it's a fan film you will not get perfect acting in most fan films

@Antwannnn 11 ай бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869 yeah but it was just lousy. The worst offender being Peter/Spidey.

@ANGELBOBS_YT 11 ай бұрын

Is funny when people criticize a film by making a spin-off trying to fix things but then they screw up themselves or at least other people think they screwed it up they may dispute that themselves but it does highlight how difficult filmmaking is and getting the right feel Spider-Man can't be too dark but it can't be too light either it's about the right balance

@medalgear654 11 ай бұрын

This captured everything that bigger-budget films lacked the hell are you talking about. It may be better, but it is still better than the TASM 1&2 and the MCU Spider-Man Home trilogy.

@Feedback72 11 ай бұрын

@@medalgear654hard disagree 😂

@CloneCaptainRex7567 11 ай бұрын

@@medalgear654 TASM slander will not be tolerated.

@gracekim25 11 ай бұрын

@@medalgear654yeah no I also disagree with this statement, you’re blinded by bias. You need to think critically not emotionally, also you’re drunk

@mocapcow2933 11 ай бұрын

@@medalgear654yeah. Movies might not be the right medium for you if you think thya

@donovangomez9489 11 ай бұрын

Can we talk about how great the kid acted at least??? In a world with so few good child actors this kid killed the role

@ishyk10 11 ай бұрын

I skimmed the movie and as far as I can tell it’s 2 hours of people trauma dumping then at the end he’s like “but I’ll keep going, because I’m Spider-Man” and like…that’s the theme of *all* Spider-Man media. That Gavin dude really thought he had a fresh new take that the MCU was apparently lacking according to him

@gracekim25 11 ай бұрын

Mmmm it’s kinda odd that he doesn’t get MCU Peter at all 😅

@WarpingFist 11 ай бұрын

In the end, I think they should’ve made the film 30 minutes max. They could’ve made the film more focused but they were ambitious and made it feature length.

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

Or even an hour and a half 2 hours was too ambitious

@dastanovich2476 11 ай бұрын

They planned it to be 50 min long but due to the sudden increase in budget they prolonged it to 1:40 1:10 would've been the perfect length, there's a lot of scenes that just..... drag on and on and on

@ivanagustinortiz5237 11 ай бұрын

Fanfilms like Superman Solar definetly benefit of shorter runtime (30min) and I feel Lotus would've benefited from that as well, some scenes drag a ton, and when it's Peter lashing out for more than even the comics, it's not warranted and it really paints the character in a worse light than comics ever did.

@williamreed3739 11 ай бұрын

God knows I’ve made my mistakes when it comes to writing so I’m probably not the foremost authority to speak on this but this fan film just OOZES with “I’m fourteen and this is deep” energy. I can just tell that the filmmakers made this movie as dark and miserable as they could just to prove how much more intellectual and artistic they were compared to the MCU.

@galvawave8403 11 ай бұрын

In fairness, all you have to do to prove how intellectual and artistic you are compared to the MCU is be born.

@metro0612 11 ай бұрын

@@galvawave8403 7 years ago, I would disagree with you, but given the current state of the MCU? I half agree so much.

@morbiuscrystal4875 4 ай бұрын

@@metro0612 oh look another Martin Scorsese jr crying about marvel

@metro0612 4 ай бұрын

@@morbiuscrystal4875 Oh, look. Someone who doesn't know how to read past 2nd-Grade level. I said I would disagree with the person I mentioned had they made their comment in that specific time during what I (and many others) consider the MCU's Golden Age. You must have blind faith and pisspoor taste in quality if you think the MCU's 4th and 5th Phases are flawless: They aren't.

@morbiuscrystal4875 4 ай бұрын

@@metro0612 cry more cinephile, I don't care about ur top 10 Oscar bait list.

@monkeydude952 11 ай бұрын

Funny that people obsessed with "the good old days" always turn out to just be bigoted lol

@warknightxl2167 11 ай бұрын

I perfer the MCU Spider-Man movies(Homecoming, Far From Home and No Way Home)and Spiderverse animated movies over Lotus. Seriously, this film tied soo hard to be too "mature, serious, dark and depressing", it's so bad in my opinion. I love it when Spider-Man is primarily a balance of fun, lighthearted, emotional and dramatic, it's why I absolutely love MCU Spider-Man and the spiderverse movies, they're honestly the best spider-man movies in my opinion.

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

@galaxytruth2823 11 ай бұрын

🤓

@grenas1995 11 ай бұрын

Agreed. I love Tom and he’s my favorite but I love all the others too. Literally any Spider-Man movie > Lotus.

@jon_ovo3653 11 ай бұрын

@@grenas1995facts

@jetguy128 11 ай бұрын

I also prefer MCU SpiderMan. And speaking of mature and serious, the struggles that Peter, MJ, and Harry were going through was the same as shonwn in comics and other media. The difference is that comics and movies never showed them in detail. So the fan film just showed much more depth for that. SpiderMan may seem silly but underneath that mask are pains and sacrifices that has has to endure while being a hero.

@soar123 11 ай бұрын

Youre actually the perfect shade to speak on racism and make a difference. Racism is all of our problem to combat, not just black people

@BullyGarfield. 11 ай бұрын

this^

@waffle-chan4152 11 ай бұрын

Exactly. No matter what race you are, you can still at least say that it's bad.

@ChristianJayTheCTrain 11 ай бұрын

Irregardless of race, he can definitely talk about the new wave of controversy this film is getting

@kenrobinson7563 11 ай бұрын

Why bring us up at all then

@Cattledecap4life 11 ай бұрын

Im sure that all of the racists are TOTALLLY gonna change their ways based on a spider man review

@asomewhatdecentperson9190 11 ай бұрын

For all of Gavin’s claims that MCU doesn’t understand Spider-Man. Gavin fundamentally misunderstands what Spider-Man is in the first fight with Shocker. In that fight, Peter uses criminals as human shields against Shocker… **Shocker** of all people. Versus Homecoming in which Peter is spying on the weapons deal between Prowler and Shockers 1 & 2. His phone rings and Prowler gets blamed for it and gets a gun pulled on him. Peter, despite knowing Prowler wanted those illegal gear. Immediately blows his cover. And says “If you’re gonna shoot at anyone. Shoot at me!” Not to mention the aforementioned Peter and MJ talk at the graveyard. Conceptually its lifted from the aftermath of Gwen’s death and MJ going to comfort Peter. Peter is of course grief stricken and angry at everything. But what works there and not in Lotus is that theres a passage of time between Gwen’s death and their encounter. In the comics, it’s literally right after. And Peter is less directly harsh at MJ and more just pushing her away emotionally. And MJ’s response there is to simply not leave, comforting Peter when he’s at his lowest point. In Lotus, Peter berates MJ and MJ later apologizes to Peter. I have never seen someone fundamentally miss the point of a critical moment of the comics like Gavin did.

@erickbeltran7338 11 ай бұрын

Not to mention Shocker was using electricity lol and not shockwaves

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

The writing does show their inexperience when they monologue or even in some of the the dialogue. I understand why some people didn't like how bleak it was but Gwen just essentially died and for Harry his father just died so I took it basically as this happened like a week ago and these characters aren't okay hence why Peter goes off on Mj because he wants to be alone and Mj is asking him to party when his fiance just died it is incredibly tone deaf. With how much angst is in that scene just shows it was written by a teenager because teens tend to gravitate towards angst. Peter is also being a jerk to harry because Norman was the green goblin that and its well known Norman saw Harry as a disappointment but that scene was definitely stupid because now Peter went from somewhat justifiable in his anger to as stupid and tone deaf like Mj

@ivanagustinortiz5237 11 ай бұрын

The thing too is that it's way too obvious when they take lines or entire dialogue from the comics, after that you have original writing and it creates whiplash, maybe that's just me.

@user-gw3bs2in5i 11 ай бұрын

I think the anger made sense in that regard. I think it's more or less the writing that threw me off. I think it may have worked more if there was more escalation into it. But like you said, it's more down to inexperience.

@ManimalMoose 11 ай бұрын

@@ivanagustinortiz5237it's definitely not just you, it goes from straight rips from some of the best spider-man comics. To the worst writing I've heard in a few years. It's narrative whiplash.

@mr.moviemafia 11 ай бұрын

Getting high quality critiques of Lotus by Cosmonaut Variety Hour AND Pup is a blessing, they’re both giving us plenty to chew on!

@trevinodude 11 ай бұрын

The fan films that got me into Spider-Man fan films is the Peter’s Web series. But as long as I have been watching Spider-Man fan films, I had no idea there were so many… so I got a list to catch up now so… thanks Pup!

@jarred1k579 11 ай бұрын

Same with Spider-Man eclipse

@BullyGarfield. 11 ай бұрын

peter's web is the best imo

@ma.2089 11 ай бұрын

Friend called Spider-Man is cool

@lewisanderton8062 11 ай бұрын

This film was truly heartbreaking. I hope no other 11 year old endures these pains.

@Joecbg100 11 ай бұрын

This is the most level headed and responsible review for this admittedly good ish thing I've found, thank you Pup.

@EddyStudios-it4cf 11 ай бұрын

This is a very good review, I really appreciate the effort put into the film and the review, well done

@hujar5011 10 ай бұрын

Seeing Spiderman trauma dump to a kid with cancer was the funniest shit ever, kids got alot on his plate and now he's gotta hear his hero vent

@MiniMight 11 ай бұрын

a lot of lotus’ problems imo could be forgiven if it wasn’t touted as the film to show the mcu how it’s done. rather than them trying to sell it as the best and definitive representation of spider-man’s character, i could accept it as just a take on the character, considering how so much of it terribly misunderstands spider-man as a character. but when you frame at as “this is is definitely OUR alternate version of peter” it becomes much more acceptable methinks

@ethanlynch3113 11 ай бұрын

I feel like it's a hot take, but I like how Peter acted with MJ and Harry post Gwen's death. It felt like he was resorting back to his harsh, selfish ways as a coping mechanism

@edwarduecker4866 11 ай бұрын

It was way too mean spirited. The performance and dialogue for Peter didn’t suggest someone wrestling with grief instead coming off like he just personally hated MJ and wanted to strangle her.

@brainydude8666 11 ай бұрын

Yes, but there's not enough sad scenes though

@mukilandhinesh3931 11 ай бұрын

It could have worked for me but it was dialed up too high

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

@@edwarduecker4866 Peter is in the anger stage of grief plus Mj probably pissed him off too asking to go to a party like why would he want to party

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869something that Peter with the symbiot would do not our peter this one comes off as too angry and too asshole for my liking

@gengarvenom1180 11 ай бұрын

I loved the part when Miles tells Peter to stop calling him that.

@ChildlikeMan 11 ай бұрын

I felt like Peter being the way he was toward MJ and Harry was the point. Also, I really don't think Peter would have considered Norman having died considering that he's the one who killed Gwen in the first place. In his mind, Norman is the Goblin and nothing else. As far as Timmy's room. Peter trauma dumping on the kid was, in Peter's self-hatred-addled mind, probably a kindness. He even brings up other heroes in an attempt to get Timmy to stop wasting what little time he had left idolizing Spider-Man. And then when Timmy and his mom remind him of why he does what he does, the turnaround feels that much more satisfying. At least to me

@GJKonop 11 ай бұрын

Very well put, this is all exactly what I had intended, even though I understand the critiques

@cliffwill27 11 ай бұрын

@@GJKonop Was this an original score, I got mad Danny Elfman vibes during sound compositions?

@GJKonop 11 ай бұрын

@@cliffwill27 All original composition besides the lyrical stuff

@cliffwill27 11 ай бұрын

@@GJKonop dope, the soundtrack really captured the Sam Raimi feels and I dug that!

@brainydude8666 11 ай бұрын

@@GJKonopMore sad peter parker scenes rather than angry peter parker scenes along with more context would've helped

@stephan2807 11 ай бұрын

Honestly I think Peter being angry at everyone is very Peter parker in the comics. Peter not caring much about Harry's father makes sense since one small thing...his father killed gwen so he hates Norman. Peter stopped being spider man for a reason and the thing with Peter not causing hope for the kid is we all see spider man as this larger than life person but he is far from perfect, he's human and he makes mistakes but spider man fans like Timmy only see him as Spider-Man. I'm not saying Peter is justified for going off at mj, Harry, Timmy but the thing is he made a mistake and we all have and Timmy's mother made Peter realize that he was wrong this whole time and made him see the error of his ways and Timmy inspired Peter because Peter inspired him. Timmy reminded Peter that the spider man means something to everyone and he realized his selfishness and he rectified it

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

Gavin's version would've suited a black suit spiderman movie peter being angry is the effects of the symbiot

@davidbjacobs3598 11 ай бұрын

I haven't seen the movie (don't really want to), but will point out that Peter went off on Harry in the comics as well, right after Gwen died and BEFORE Norman died, in ASM 122. He was pretty brutal and horrible, writing off Harry's issues with drugs and ignoring him when he really needed a friend. Harry disappeared immediately afterward, and came back as the Goblin.

@joeda900 11 ай бұрын

@@odd-devI believe we should stop relating a angry Peter Parker with symbiote Spider-Man It just makes it seems as if Peter Parker can't show anger at his friends except if he's wearing the symbiote suit.

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

@@joeda900 this is not how an angry Peter acts this one acts as if he's wearing the symbiot

@JRLSpiderman 7 ай бұрын

Peter would never lash out at MJ like he did in lotus. TASM Peter who is more mean than comics peter wouldn’t do that. Especially trauma dumping on a dying child, that is such a terrible idea

@gracekim25 11 ай бұрын

I don’t really understand why people would demand for MCU Peter to be like the comics immediately when he was younger in his debut and all the tragic stuff happens in adulthood 😅 mmm I thought action is meant balance the drama of a story 🤷‍♀️ but eh it is a fan film

@TheTreyVision 11 ай бұрын

The film had the right idea and the right concept. It’s definitely what I was begging for during the MCU SpiderMan era. HOWEVER IN MY OPINION, if you adapt Spider-Man with highlighting the more tragic dramatic story and characterization, Your gonna need a lot of action to help balance it all out.

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

dude mcu Spidey was in his early years most of the tragic stuff happen in the college era all the way to adulthood

@PizzaTimeGuy 11 ай бұрын

I agree. If i say more action, I don't mean what other people would think that it means , BOOM!💥explosions, and punching and guns, etc... I'm talking about if the movie shows action in a scene. What does it imply for the characters? Like, what if that car in the beginning almost hit an old lady walking over the street, and Spider-man swoops in to save her and tries to stop the vehicle by being smart. Like these things would've enhanced and had more impact when Tim was talking to Spider-Man about saving people. Like action isn't only for the sake of action. It's character building.

@gracekim25 11 ай бұрын

Trey. Why would you beg this when MCU Peter is YOUNG than the comic version 😅 and he recently left high school…boy are you nuts

@TheTreyVision 11 ай бұрын

@@gracekim25 in my opinion no matter how young Peter or whoever Spider-Man is, I believe there should be a certain level of drama, tragedy, & consequence the character must go through and experience. The MCU largely tamped down this aspect of the character for 2 1/2 movies in favor of appeasing audiences to how fun and young SpiderMan is. Rather than then really developing the character Peter as a person and hero like some of the other mcu characters. I mean everyone is laughing at this statement but Miles is roughly the same age and everyone praised spider verse which has the right amount of drama and conflict for a SpiderMan story. There’s no denying the mcu definitely dumb down aspects of Peter and then at the last minute said “it’s been is origin the whole time & now he’s actually SpiderMan” ! Overall like I said, it’s all about balance. The mcu started on one end to try and separate from earlier adaptations that the character wasn’t fully relatable and Gavin with his film went so far in the opposite direction that it’s a sad and boring experience. Spider-Man is a great character and everyone has their favorite version. But there is a base level of balance between Fun/Cool/ young & Dramatic/ Traumatic/ & Emotionally Heavy that is the character of Spider-Man.

@PizzaTimeGuy 11 ай бұрын

@@TheTreyVision I agree! 100% based

@jhollo 11 ай бұрын

I vaguely remember GJKs outline for a Spider-Man TV show, and I'm pretty sure he wanted Peter to be miserable for way too long. If I remember right, around season seven he would've given up on Peter Parker to be Spidey full-time. Personally I had to unfollow after that since it was just... too much.

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

If he would have shown Maryjane knowing Peter secret at the end, they could have ended with the swing. Had Harry see it and show his anger for Spider-Man but first show his respect for his friend. And then show MJ knowing what she knows, and then being the person in the middle type of feeling.

@TheGoddon 11 ай бұрын

Man they don’t tell us how Goblin died. Spider Man hasn’t killed him, so what the hell happened.

@Rabbitearsblog 11 ай бұрын

Awesome video Pup! I didn't even know about this fan film until I heard about the controversy surrounding it. Honestly, I don't know if I want to review fan films because it would have been unfair of me to try to look at a fan film like a regular Hollywood film, despite the fact that most fan films have lower budgets than Hollywood films. But I'm impressed that this fan film had a big budget.

@MrBoogiemoney 11 ай бұрын

Great review. Peter and Mary Jane's dialogue at Gwens grave is straight out of the comic when Peter told MJ off setting them on a course to eventually bring them together as MJ reevaluates her life as just being the "party girl". But I will say the scene when Pete questions Harry for not showing up is definitely not done well at all. This movie does some of the comic then does its own thing which just makes me confused tbh. This movie doesn't know what it wants to be. That being said I appreciate what these guys and gals have done and kudos for doing this movie.

@Wooshey_Wooj 11 ай бұрын

These type of Spider-Man fans honestly just find something to complain about. Yes, he’s a part of the larger world of Marvel comics. Like it or not. He does do team ups. After everything he goes through, he still strives to be a better person. Dude, I don’t know about you, but no way home still almost gets a tear out of me. This kid goes through so much shit. And yes it’s still MCU Spider-Man. But the zombie episode of what if. The speech he made to Hope is the definition of what MCU Spider-Man is. I’ll take it any day even on a low budget version. This version can kick rocks. I keep falling asleep through it and I can’t finish it as much as I try.

@Peved 11 ай бұрын

I'm pretty sure MJ makes it pretty obvious she knows who Spider-Man is during their conversation at Gwen's grave

@Wortwort-Spooderbat 11 ай бұрын

True

@TiredMoonRabbit 11 ай бұрын

Im pretty sure MJ knows peter is Spiderman here, she literally spells it out that she knows whe she gives him the letter.

@davidaamaya1 11 ай бұрын

Imagine if they made the spiderman musical was like this

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

My favorite Spiderman fan film besides lotus are: Power and Responsibility Seasons of Change Spiderman Dead no More Spiderman Hunted

@naomithornhill2079 10 ай бұрын

A fan film that l liked was Green Goblin: the last stand. It was made by Dan Poole and adapts the comic well. It has great acting and amazing stunts for a film made in 1992

@bayanisuper 11 ай бұрын

Timmy definitely turned in the best performance in the film.

@MrPMAntunes 11 ай бұрын

In the fight against Shocker (that ridiculously shoots lightning) Spidey uses normal people as shields. They are goons but still, Spidey would never do this. Gavin doesn't understand the character, no version of it.

@TiredMoonRabbit 11 ай бұрын

Meanwhile on the ps4

@thedarkroom6416 11 ай бұрын

@@TiredMoonRabbitthat diffrent tho

@TiredMoonRabbit 11 ай бұрын

@@thedarkroom6416 true but it should be in mind that Peter's spider sense would tell him if some on will die from something he's doing to them.

@odd-dev 11 ай бұрын

@@TiredMoonRabbitGavin's vision would've better suited a symbiot suit movie

@TiredMoonRabbit 11 ай бұрын

@@odd-dev personally I'd have to disagree with that, mainly because every simbiot story nowadays just makes it evil and uses it as an excuse as to why peter is aggressive. in the original continuity it wasn't really like that peter was just aggressive because alot had happened to him at that point, the simbiot was just kinda there and peter got 'rightfully' mad at it when he learned he was taking his body out at night to fight crime like does in the day.

@FirestormInfinity 11 ай бұрын

“I am the wrong shade” he says as a black dog 😂

@TiredMoonRabbit 11 ай бұрын

I mean that scene with MJ and peter was in the comics almost word for word if im correct, only real difference being that they were in peters living space so he was closed in there was no running away and MJ does the thing that defines her character he tells her to leave but she stays.

@theguywholikesturtlez4207 11 ай бұрын

Peter was far less harsh then in the film. Went overboard IMO

@JRLSpiderman 7 ай бұрын

He was insulting her like crazy in lotus

@Broswald_Inc 11 ай бұрын

Spider-Man Lotus isn’t as bad as some people say and it isn’t as good as some people say. It’s just a movie

@RoYal_bgr 11 ай бұрын

A bad “movie”. An okay fan film

@Broswald_Inc 11 ай бұрын

@@RoYal_bgr A good first film is all I'd like to add

@ThatDragonGuy 11 ай бұрын

A trash fan film. Why is SPIDER-MAN using HUMAN SHIELDS? He wouldn't do that

@Broswald_Inc 11 ай бұрын

@@ThatDragonGuy hey don't forget this is his first film. Not saying that that isn't a bad thing but he's just starting out.

@JRLSpiderman 7 ай бұрын

@@Broswald_Incgavin said this would he the best fan film ever made. He said its going to be better than the MCU Spiderman. He put himself on this high level, and he didn’t deliver

@Apexthebeast 11 ай бұрын

Written by teens? Of course it would be chalk full of angst. They believe any little thing is the end of the world, and something like a death is something that genuinely brings up angst that's understandable. But when it's shoved in your face every few minutes, it gets very off putting and just down right annoying and offensive. Like come on, we don't need every single shot to be so dark, literally and metaphorically, doesn't help. There were many fatal flaws that really didn't hold the grounded morals that Peter gained after his canon event.

@AkiraLionPilot 8 ай бұрын

15:26 thank you SO much for getting this right. So many other people who have reviewed this movie mistakenly said it was the 60s cartoon

@zirkalda9502 11 ай бұрын

Let’s get into it!

@robobo2463 10 ай бұрын

“He shows Timmy his web shooter” -Channel Pup 2023

@SuperSamZero69 11 ай бұрын

The 2 hour long epilogue to a much better movie lol

@Antwannnn 11 ай бұрын

so basically Raimi's Spiderman 1?

@Fluffy6555 11 ай бұрын

@@Antwannnnwhat are you even talking about lmao.

@SuperSamZero69 8 ай бұрын

@@Antwannnn the hell does this even mean 🤣

@SuperSamZero69 8 ай бұрын

@@Antwannnn what would spider-man 1 even be a epilogue too? Peter getting a swirly from flash? 🤣

@Antwannnn 8 ай бұрын

@@SuperSamZero69 idek

@CometStar100 11 ай бұрын

I really loved the movie. It's not a great film like it has problems but as a fan film it's the best one I ever watched and it's the best acting from any fan film ever. Moriah as MJ was literally perfect and she has a bright future in acting. I also related to many aspects to the movie and I loved the overall message. Also going to the premiere for the movie was great and so much fun! I wish Gavin did more premieres because the best way to watch this movie is to see it on a big screen

@nope5657 11 ай бұрын

It's 2 hrs of poorly paced, poorly directed misery porn made by a kid with so much arrogance it's baffling.

@comicbooknerd3570 11 ай бұрын

I agree 👍🏾

@Magenta444 11 ай бұрын

To me the movie felt very bland and it didn’t help that it was 2 hours long I feel like u can cut out the Harry B plot the movie would’ve been paced better. The biggest problem I have with it is that’s it’s unoriginal I’ve noticed parts that I have seen from other Spider-Man media: Green Goblin giving a monologue to a battle damaged Spider-Man; Raimi, Peter watching a news report about Gwen and Normans deaths; MCU, Peter watching a video on his laptop about memories with Gwen; TASM2. It really tries to be the most comic accurate portrayal of Spider-Man by flexing its knowledge of moments of Spider-Man history that it ends up not having an identity of its own. The ending contradicts itself by having its cake and eating it too with Peter realizing Spider-Man means something to ppl and needs to spend more time with his friends but he ditches to be Spider-Man. If u really wanted an adaption of the “Kid who collects Spider-Man” just watch the 90s animated episode, this movie shouldn’t be the benchmark of what a Spider-Man fan film should be

@pian-0g445 11 ай бұрын

I think it was alright how the story was executed, but all I was reminded of was how a maturity in the story doesn’t come just from its tone (here, it’s the absolute bleakness of the characters lives at that moment), But how it is handled. Now, this is a more mature story than let’s say, Spider-Man beating up villain of the week, but it isn’t necessarily more mature than let’s say No Way Home. Yes, one is absolutely more grounded and the other is very Hollywood super hero stuff, but both stories aren’t necessarily tackling more mature stories over one another. Being perceived as mature is not the same as being mature. This story didn’t HAVE to be this bleak, or this long to effectively convey its emotions and message. This vision of Peter is interesting, but it comes down to the execution. But, it’s not bad.

@vvx600 11 ай бұрын

I’m glad i saw a proper fair review especially one that i resonated with.

@jwallacehtp 11 ай бұрын

The fights remind me of the fights from Batman Begins.

@adzinco6916 11 ай бұрын

i found the movie boring, i understood what this movie was trying to do but it just didn't do any of it right. like you said, combining the death of gwen stacey and the kid who collects spider-man is a great idea but the movie ruins it by having peter trauma dump on the kid and then leaving before the he goes to sleep. this movie didn't need 100k and the contraverisies surrounding this movie weren't worth it. at least it's exposed gavin and most of the cast being racist pedos and has introduced people to better spider-man fan films like green goblins last stand which gives us the spider-man gavin says he prefers but done better

@_neon-xeon_3966 11 ай бұрын

I wonder how you do these videos so quickly, like of course there's motion capture, but that's not just it right? The editing and thr subtlety of your Avatar's movements are stellar!! (or maybe very normal and I simply just don't watch enough gamer girls w sexy animal avatars lol)

@BrothersWebOfficial 11 ай бұрын

35:38 I highly disagree, If you had highed the Green Goblin actor and also found out that day before filming he was into kids, As and 18 year old an ADULT MAN you fire the guy period. I at 18 know wrong from right, Pup don't play Devils advocate here. - Luke

@ChannelPup 11 ай бұрын

Depends how cut-and-dry it the information was presented I guess. Without all the details on what was known and what was said, I just don't have anything of importance to add.

@TevyaSmolka 11 ай бұрын

Great review man

@devincornell9795 11 ай бұрын

“Who thought you math”?!?!? Killed me underrated 😂

@gracekim25 11 ай бұрын

You mean taught but yes that was priceless 🤣

@spriteking3944 11 ай бұрын

I might throw together a fan cut of this film that switches some scenes around and cuts some stuff out to make it better. I don't want to impose of gavin's work whether it's good or bad, but if anyone wants see it, I'll make a Google drive link or something

@colinstudley4894 11 ай бұрын

When Timmy aksed Spider-Man to take off his mask for him I literally said as a joke "Imagine its like that one scene in the 80's show where Spidey takes off his mask and the little girl immediately recognized him" because I thought Gavin J Konop was enough of a Spider-Man fan to know that Peter Parker isn't a celebrity and nobody would know who he is. Unfortunately, it was exactly like that one scene in the 80's show and I was very disappointed. How hard would it have been to have Spidey take his mask off and say "My name is Peter Parker" and Timmy would be like "Like the photographer?" and BOOM you get the same exact thing it just didn't make any sense for that random little kid to know who Peter Parker is.

@JediDrewsterT 11 ай бұрын

Obviously Spider-Man’s biggest fan would know the man who photographs him

@dante_0962 11 ай бұрын

It was form the 90s

@jeremiahgrayest 11 ай бұрын

@@JediDrewsterTexactly. OP is silly

@saintsfps5348 11 ай бұрын

Big difference between the average person and a obsessed mega fan

@PapaFM0903 11 ай бұрын

Been waiting for this one

@nope5657 11 ай бұрын

Dreary, ugly misery porn: the movie. This is a case study in everything not to do as a first-time filmmaker. A young, arrogant, spiteful fanboy raised an irresponsible amount of money, used it irresponsibly, and produced something unwatchable. The sheer ego-centrism wafting out of this thing is staggering. I had to finish it in THREE sittings because it was just so poorly paced and drab. When people pull the "listen to fans/let fans run things" bullshit, show them this travesty. This is the biggest case fans not knowing what they're doing or what makes a good film ever. For that, I applaud it. I was only somewhat familiar with the history of this thing. Considering the age of the creators involved I was willing to overlook the bigotry controversy as possibly just teenagers being stupid and ignorant. Maybe over the course of the experience making the film they matured and grew up. But after struggling to get through this turd I looked into the history of this thing more and more and was appalled at its inception. Every. Single. Stage. of this films creation was spawned by wrong-headed fanboy entitlement. End of story. Some jumped up teenager with delusions of grandeur thinking his status as a "real fan" could produce a better film that what the professionals are making. If anyone sympathizes with this attitude then...good for you I guess? You and the kid who made this deserve each other I guess... I don't give a shit about "oh it's a fan film you gotta forgiving of certain aspects" no. Stop that noise. I've seen enough fan films to know that the reality of something being a fan film is not enough of an excuse anymore. There are TON of fan films with above average production values. The amount of endless, dragged out establishing shots in this thing were almost humorous. They felt like a joke after a while. Basic film language is broken and ignored constantly. You ain't Spielberg kid, you can't just ignore the 180 rule so flippantly... The entire conceit around this film was born out of sheer spite and fanboy entitlement. The racist controversy aside, this is 2hrs of poorly directed misery porn. I honestly judge anyone who comes away liking this thing.

@warknightxl2167 11 ай бұрын

Thank freaking you for calling this all out. I knew this movie would never be a masterpiece of a film or a masterpiece of a Spider-Man movie in the end. Like seriously, that would honestly just be pathetic if Gavin(a freaking 18 year old who is still inexperience of filmmaking)literally made Spider-Man Lotus just so he could try to prove that he somehow "understands" Spider-Man "objectively better" than Jon Watts(a professional filmmaker) just because he dislike MCU Spider-Man. Like dude, obviously everyone has the right to voice their opinions on movies they like or dislike, I don't not care if he dislikes the MCU and it's version of Spider-Man, but for him to make a fan film just to prove to someone that he is better than him is just so childish. And now look at the other reviews of his fan film on the internet, especially on KZfaq now, most people dislike the film and they do have very good criticisms to it.

@AnimationStation196 11 ай бұрын

I don’t think this had anything to do with him genuinely disliking John Watts at all. He’s gone on to say he enjoyed some of Johns films from the Spider-Man trilogy. The thesis for this film was to create a narrative that explored Peter’s grief and sides of his character previously unseen from recent depictions (his anger and tendency to lash out after a tragedy). The MJ cemetery scene having its dialogue lifted straight from the comics page. So I wouldn’t say this interpretation as inaccurate, but at times can feel almost mean spirited compared to how Tom’s Spider-Man has been in his recent films. Peter in the comics is a deeply flawed individual and can be driven to unloading all of his emotions at someone, them more often than not be undeserving of it. What I see a lot of people leave out is Peter’s genuine guilt at how he acted towards MJ the next time they speak. It may not have been the best delivery, but the intention was there.

@mas._.k_ 11 ай бұрын

loved this honest review as most coming out are just bandwagon hate. i’m currently working on a LIVE-ACTION Spectacular Spider-Man Tribute. it won’t be over 5 minutes, butI think it flows well and it matches to the exact frame of the cartoon.

@blessmayakamene3947 11 ай бұрын

Great review pup , I got some of my favourite spider man fan films as well . Spider man seasons of change And spider man dead no more .

@calebstone5062 11 ай бұрын

Love your vid’s ❤

@mistersp3753 11 ай бұрын

Let's hear it for Timmy, the 10-or-8-year-old.

@Grizzly-Gamer1 11 ай бұрын

Honestly I have the Dark dramatic feel of spider man really refreshing

@PhilipAJones 11 ай бұрын

The way you describe the bleakness of the film reminds me of so many college one-acts.

@mc.gemstone 10 ай бұрын

Not a Spider Man fan film but a Venom fan film called Truth in Journalism. It's short but amazing and goes for a more horror approach and was directed by Joe Lynch some might be familiar with that name if you seen some of the horror movies hes worked on. But whats also special about the fan film Sony Pictures found out about it, and ask Lynch to make it into a full feature movie but due to unknown reasons it never did. Besides that go and check it out if you want to.

@spider-423 11 ай бұрын

I think this film is something really interesting, despite a controversy of most the actors it isnt horribly written because it feels like legit love into this film hopefully fan films learn how to keep their noses clean while showing love for their fans. I think most of rhe actor's did ok, also the mary jane actor was a good actress but i see most people giving her crap for being crap.

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

For being crap?

@mottom2657 11 ай бұрын

@@TALEOFA The execution of Spider-Man: Blue wasn't good, but they did whatever they understood.

@TALEOFA 11 ай бұрын

@@mottom2657 Spider-Man blue or lotus?

@mahfuzurchowdhury2765 11 ай бұрын

Still remember a year or two back when you were about to quit KZfaq - glad things are aee going much better now.

@SB992REBORN 11 ай бұрын

WEINIS! ALSO, THIS MAKES ME WNAT TO SEE IT YET I LOVE THE INSIGHTFUL RETROSPECTIVE REVIEW OF THIS AND LOVE WHEN FAN FILMS ARE DONE RIGHT AND NOT JUST LOOK RIGHT BUT DONE WRITING ACTING AND PRODUCTION AND SKILL AND PRESENTATION RIGHT!

@CouncilofGeeks 11 ай бұрын

“1 hour, 20 minute mark”?!?? I assumed this was a short. It’s feature length?!?!?

@ChannelPup 11 ай бұрын

It clocks in at around 1 hour 45. 2 hours if you include credits.

@Adamairball 11 ай бұрын

This was a great and really entertaining video! I will probably watch Lotus IF my friends are ok with watching it with me. (I say if they're ok with it, and not if they want to because of all the abuse, predator, and racism stuff)

@user-gw3bs2in5i 11 ай бұрын

Tbh, I didn't really like Lotus, and I think that's more or less due to the fact that I tend to really dislike overly-dark superhero things. Idk, they almost always overstay their welcome for me. That being said, this is more of a me thing than an actual criticism of the movie. I will say, there are definitely a few writing choices in Lotus that I actually thought were kind of good, but it does definitely feel like it's their first time writing a script, but I suppose that's kind of unavoidable. I feel like its main issue is that it's trying too hard to seem like a "professional movie," what with the runtime and the whole vibe of it, if that makes any sense. Tbh, I find the discussion around Lotus to be more interesting than the movie itself. I will say though, despite some of my more personal grievances regarding stuff like the Spider-man fandom (which I've grown very annoyed with over the past few years), I do actually feel a bit bad for this movie because it's clear that a fair amount of passion went into it, and the final product is being so heavily crapped on as of right now. As someone who is aspiring to work in the film business, that's a feeling I can't help but sympathize/empathize with that.

@gechoman44iwantahippo 11 ай бұрын

I think the movie was OK. It wasn’t anything amazing, but it did what it was trying to do. That being said, I think the biggest problem with the movie is basically what you said about it feeling supplementary. I think it felt like the sequel to another film that doesn’t exist. This story needed something before it that gets us familiar with the relationships between this version of Peter and his friends. Gwen’s death didn’t feel as impactful and the way they acted didn’t feel right because we just didn’t know these characters well enough from before this film. I don’t think there was room in this to include it in this, but at the very least, some kind of prelude was needed to establish everything. The opening scenes aren’t enough to do that effectively. Also, I just find The Kid that Collects Spider-Man very bizarre. Why would Spider-Man license himself out, and how would he even go about doing that with his secretly identity involved?! It’s pretty obvious these aren’t intended to he bootlegs, so what’s going on here?!

@GT_Mr.C 11 ай бұрын

wow i wasn’t expecting this from you

@vincentfarfromnormal7748 11 ай бұрын

I just moved into a college dorm and I got a kids spider-man comforter and pillow case and it's the same one in the film and now I'm kinda mad lol

@Nindroidgamer110 11 ай бұрын

The first movie i made was when I was 16. It was a crime drama and it turned out terrible. If this is GJK's first project, it is incredibly impressive. But from how it looks, it doesnt seem that way.

@Levicandoit 11 ай бұрын

*Hey Pup, I got a question. I respect that you have some principals that I assume are there because you understand the struggle of independent filmmaking. I however think I disagree with your overall methods. Could you elaborate a bit? I would assume that most creators are welcoming to your critiques, as even a negative review would still put eyes on your project. But I do wonder, what would you do if a creator did not like certain critiques you made, would you scrap the entire project or would you edit around those sections that they had expressed concern with? Does that not limit the freedom you hold to express your thoughts to your audience? I assume you would never hold this standard with a studio film, as running your critiques through them before airing would essentially make it a promotion, why do you feel differently about independent fan films? I am genuinely curious on your thoughts if you have a few moments*

@stewartkee6115 11 ай бұрын

Agree with many points you made. But you are wrong when you say that you are the wrong shade to comment on racism. Every shade has experienced racism.

@mfarizakhyar 11 ай бұрын

Finally a review video that actually a review

@KaleBennett 11 ай бұрын

Now you have to review every piece of Spider-Man fan media

@thevilereviews7812 11 ай бұрын

First time viewer here…why’d he start yelling members at the end😂😂😂😂😂😂 i was just washing dishes when the fear of God played through my headphones😂😂😂😂 (I liked and subscribed)

@alexismiranda1228 11 ай бұрын

Hell yeh Pup, lets watch

@silverloveguns 11 ай бұрын

tobey in the back : 👁👁 “see you chump”

@elborrego4916 11 ай бұрын

You're the Best PUP in the MULTIVERSE!

@tomatoesarejustworsecucumb3534 11 ай бұрын

i only know the film as the racist spider-man and i don't care enough to learn more

@micahbell5572 11 ай бұрын

Oh you poor thing Cry a river

@qwertyzillaofficial2969 11 ай бұрын

You aren’t missing out on anything.

@taytoflame2314 11 ай бұрын

Fair enough

@jeremiahgrayest 11 ай бұрын

So you're ignorant and don't care 🤔

@idkisrandom6432 10 ай бұрын

I feel like the way they could have added the final swing would be that after the party peter goes home goes to sleep and the next morning immediately be woken up by sirens this is when we see peter look at a suitcase (the one with his suit) and cut to the final swing

@thehondrascrew4864 11 ай бұрын

The intro is vibey

@chaserseven2886 11 ай бұрын

That mj scene was kinda hilarious

@jasperray-to4jc 11 ай бұрын

31:31 did you do this cut Pup? Cuz it’s pretty smooth

@ChannelPup 11 ай бұрын

I did, accidentally.

@jasperray-to4jc 11 ай бұрын

@@ChannelPup Btw I love your new style for your avatar.

@cyborgbushy1016 11 ай бұрын

Everything you've mentioned is right

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this movie Gavin has potential as a director. It felt more like an art piece than a Spiderman movie but that is what made me love it because I always hated the fact in Spiderman movie they never focused on his grief and this movie gave me what I wanted. I also liked that Peter was kinda a d*ckhead anytime I see that version of Peter I get happy because Spiderman hasn't always been a nerd in the comics

@CometStar100 11 ай бұрын

100% agreed! Gavin has a bright future as a director if the controversy doesn't follow him forever. Theres also so much misinformation out there and people still don't think he apologized so I am not sure whats in store for Gavin when it comes to being in the film industry. A big youtuber really needs to do a video and clear the air about everything that happened with Gavin and Warden.

@SpectacularSpidey670 11 ай бұрын

Gavin has potential, but i beg for him to fix the pacing of his next movies and the editing of the film, i liked Lotus, it has some quality here and there but it needed to flesh more the characters and put more focus on it without making boring

@theoutsiderjess4869 11 ай бұрын

@@SpectacularSpidey670 I agree some shots didn't have to be in there

@owalterluan 11 ай бұрын

How is being a d*ckhead the opposite of being a nerd?

@ChristianJayTheCTrain 11 ай бұрын

@@CometStar100what do you mean "clear the air"? The two made a ton of racist and offensive comments, as well as defending and covering a known pedophile on the production. There's literally nothing to clear about any of it.

@TheRobloxianTacoLord 11 ай бұрын

I'm a film student and the main issues I noticed was: - Lack of characterization for MJ. She just serves to be a glue and she shows no struggle really. She's characterized worse than Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane. Peter rudely lashes out at her for something we never saw. - Cutting around too much from different shots. That's quite a common rookie filmmaker mistake because we want to show all the cool shots we got, but I noticed many times he could have let a shot run longer than he did. He could have definitely saved 20 or so minutes in the edit if he removed useless transitions and given the film a more potent feel. - Overuse of music in certain areas. - The writing is extremely segmented in chapters and should have been released as episodes or blocked off in chapters in the film itself. This is kind of obvious with how long and overbearing the whole part with the kid is. It's so exhausting in the runtime.

@George-jc3mt 11 ай бұрын

w profile picture and analysis