A Discussion On Filtering (Lane Splitting)

A Discussion On Filtering (Lane Splitting) | Riding Tips #7

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In this video we have a discussion on filtering on a Motorcycle. It can be somewhat of grey area, especially for non-riders. Filtering in the UK is legal but it can also be dangerous at times. By learning some key points of what to do and what to look out for, you increase your chances of filtering safely and avoiding any dangerous situations.
This video is broken up into two parts. In the first half of the video we'll go over the theory side of things including what the Highway Code says about filtering and also the tips I like to use to stay safe while filtering.
In the second half of they video, I'll show some animated diagrams showing potential different scenarios you're likely to find while filtering.
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@razu1976 Жыл бұрын

I swear looking out for other bikers is the majority of what life savers are for, bikes teleport in!! As for filtering, it is the god mode of riding, rolling past long queues of stopped traffic. But I find if I'm not trying to get anywhere in a hurry, which is mostly the case if I'm on the bike, then I'm happy to join a small queue. Always being at the front, always overtaking everything in sight, that's a lot of work man. I'm usually out there to enjoy the ride!

@dertyberty Жыл бұрын

I just started riding and that’s how I I’m thinking , I feel better now phew

@fairsaa7975 7 ай бұрын

@@dertybertyI don't ride a bike, but do as you do! Don't give a fuck what anyone else does, just enjoy yourself 🙂

@saundersdachicken6197 Ай бұрын

What about overtaking on the left?

@razu1976 Ай бұрын

@@saundersdachicken6197 That's not allowed in the UK.

@saundersdachicken6197 Ай бұрын

@@razu1976 What rule states that?

@wynn4894 Жыл бұрын

Passed my test in October. Been riding my own bike since November. Not much as I’d like with the cold weather but finally had my proper filtering session yesterday and it honestly is an amazing feeling. I’d say about 2-3 miles of dual carriageway was going 5mph at most mostly stationary. Zipping through that traffic is honestly like a God mode. But I did have a few people move closer to the white line to prevent me getting past, still did get past but still. If you’re comfortable do it. But like this video explains. Be extra careful and don’t get too cocky or too comfortable. Anything can happen. Be safe :)

@cammydough3184 2 жыл бұрын

Going to be commuting to uni for the first time tomorrow at 8am so this will come in handy, thanks 🙌

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Ride safe, Cammy. 🤜🤛

@markthompson2320 2 жыл бұрын

Had to filter a lot on the M8 this morning between Glasgow and Edinburgh, your advice is spot on and, I need to remember Rule 160 as you still get people who get pissed that you are filtering past them! Keep up the great channel! 🏍

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, Mark. I saw something earlier on Facebook about the M8 hold up. Looked at a stand still.

@JHJHJHJHJH 2 жыл бұрын

I use many modes of transport, including a motorbike. I always think of filtering as moving between lanes of traffic going in the same direction. Once you move to the opposite side of the road, that's an overtake and I don't think incoming traffic is obliged to give you priority or assume you're going to force them across. I've seen lots of videos of people getting irate when riding on the wrong side of the road because they think they're filtering. They're not; the oncoming traffic is moving faster and they're overtaking stationary vehicles in their lane. The overtaking rules apply there and not filtering. I'm enjoying your videos btw and I find your voice quite relaxing to listen to

@stevew9810 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. I passed my Mod 2 in July and initially didn't want to filter as I wasn't confident enough. I went out with a couple of friends who have a lot more experience than me and watched what they did, and now I find myself actually enjoying filtering. I approach the filtering in pretty much the way you describe in this video and if the traffic is moving at anything more than 20mph on any road I usually don't bother. You're dead right though, the only way you get more confidence with filtering is to filter!

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah filtering can be good fun. Sh*t scary at the start 😂.

@dertyberty Жыл бұрын

Thank you I’m at that stage of lack of confidence . I will try on next ride.

@NickCadmium Жыл бұрын

Insightful, measured and very helpful. Top notch advice. Thanks.

@robinbarker2607 Жыл бұрын

superb instruction filming ...i am new rider aged 76 with 40mph e motorcycle ..but your info helps a lot..thank you

@DaddyShark3470 5 ай бұрын

Got ma cbt the morra mate, awfae nervous but glad of your videos, great help man honestly really appreciate it 👍

@FatSam1 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Best bit of advice I can give is of you don't feel confident don't do it. I passed my full licence about 5 months ago and I'm just not getting happy with my filtering. I started off with red lights, and small streets where the main speed is in the 5-10mph range and slowly worked up to being a more confident rider at higher speeds. And thank-you for pointing out the bell ends that filter at 50mph. Give us a bad name for sure and it's just not necessary

@BoiledOctopus 20 күн бұрын

Great tutorial buddy!

@errolramdeen4163 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your explanation and tips they were very helpful even though I have a full car licences. I failed my first theory test and theirs some tips which will help me on the next test. 🙏👍🏿. PS an old mod trying to rekindle his youth.

@DarthScosha Жыл бұрын

Very helpful mate, thanks.

@AM-cz4fd 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful video, great advice thanks!

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

🤜🤛

@JayDutch-UK-MK 5 ай бұрын

Great video, keep up the great content

@nigelbailey2170 2 жыл бұрын

Really helpful video thanks!

@zitatoth87 10 ай бұрын

Great video, thank you!🎉

@gordonjohnston3845 2 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏. Your vids just keep getting better and better mate. You have taken me from cbt to full licence . Now my journey has begun you are helping me develop as a safe happy rider. Cheers bro 👍

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, Gordon. Really appreciate that man. So glad the videos have helped. 🤜🤛

@dertyberty Жыл бұрын

Me too thank you

@Theriion 2 жыл бұрын

Great video dude. Ride safe !!! ;)

@alanjohnstone2539 2 жыл бұрын

Another good one

@craigmorgan6812 Жыл бұрын

Very well done thanks. 125cc user

@mitvelkez 10 ай бұрын

good advice on roundabout filtering.

@johannesbuchner8905 3 ай бұрын

Decided I’m gonna do my license this year. Just discovered your channel and had to giggle when I saw you riding through my neighbourhood 😄😄

@SteveLawrance Жыл бұрын

Awesome ! I am planning a return to riding after 20+ years and of all the vids I’ve watched this the most insightful and helpful I’ve seen. Although I have a full licence I have decided to take a CBT to get some up to date experience but I think vids like this should supplement any training, your experience is invaluable. Thank you.

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

🤜🤛

@Rocco-tb9ih Жыл бұрын

To be honest, I think an advanced riding course would be more suitable for you. The CBT is the absolute basics of riding which, if you were already a rider, you won't have forgotten

@friktionrc 5 ай бұрын

It never ceases to amaze me that car /van drivers don’t know what the broken white line down the middle of the road. It’s like drivers are ignorant of the rules of the road. If it’s a straight road and the opposite lane is clear, and it’s safe to do so (so not in the middle of town, near a school etc etc) then there is nothing wrong for one car to safely over take the car infront as long as it’s done in a safe manner (I.e mirror signal manoeuvre and then same again to pull back into the lane).

@dengue509 2 жыл бұрын

i have watched all your videos and i have to say thank you i have learnt allot i am going in for my CTB on the 9th of nov never been on a bike or drove a car time to have some fun at 46 years old lol

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that mate. Have fun on your CBT. It's a great course and you'll learn so much just from one day. If there's anything you're stuck in or have any questions about, feel free to get in touch. 🤜🤛

@dengue509 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse can i be cheeky and ask if you can do a more in-depth on counter steering?

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

@@dengue509 Sure will. 👍

@dengue509 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse Great i look forward to it and thank you

@Wellin220365 11 ай бұрын

Thank you 👍👍👍👍👍👍

@motorcycleman6898 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this. V useful as I was not taught it for Mod 2 which I passed in May. When filtering between two opposing lanes we should look out for other motorcycles filtering coming towards us. Have been trying to 'push' myself to filter and always good to have a gap in mind to nip in to. Overtaking also not taught - perhaps a vlog on that, or have I missed it?

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man. If you check out the riding tips playlist there's an overtaking video in there. Hope it helps. 🤜🤛

@midlife-crysis 9 ай бұрын

I love filtering now. I am happy to go during rush hour just for the joy of passing queued cars. It feels like your going a million miles an hour yet only 10mph more than the cars

@mitvelkez 10 ай бұрын

I'm often on the m25 and I can assure that you get lorries in lane 4, which obviously block filtering between lane 4 and 5.

@Nooziterp1 11 ай бұрын

1:40 - This should be publicised. When I used to ride the number of times car drivers deliberately blocked me off. Could have been 'He's getting somewhere while I'm stuck here in traffic, I'll soon see to that'. But at least some of the time it was because they thought filtering is illegal and they are 'doing their bit'. Though I had drivers who would move over to let me through. He mentions this at 13:47. 5:32 - Exactly what I used to do. That way I had more of a chance to react if anything happened. 13:17 - I always used to wear a hi-vis vest and a white helmet. As he says, it gives you more chance to be seen. Overall this video should be required viewing for any rider thinking of filtering.

@RoamingOnTwoWheels 2 ай бұрын

Aw shit I'm just along the road from you in Alloa lol good vid man

@IKS-Exploration 2 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on (u turns) on a scooter/automatic please :) your videos are amazing :)

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers man .Sure. I've actually got some Mod 1 videos coming up soon, which includes the U turn. It would be on my 650 but it's exactly the same on most bikes. 🤜🤛

@DorsetSaferRoads 7 ай бұрын

I have been getting hassle from car drivers about filtering to the front at lights on my bicycle. Scary how many don't know the rules.

@janinew233 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad your foot is a lot better now. Thanks again for a very informative vlog. Down here in the East Midlands I've come across a lot of cars that when they see you trying to filter in stationary traffic, they will deliberately move to block you from getting past. It is so annoying at times. I've watched other people on bikes deliberately smash their wing mirrors off if they do it to them lol 😆 hopefully they'll learn in future not to do that again. Just out of interest, does it stipulate that you should stay behind the first car at traffic lights? When I'm out with my partner he goes to the front, even if it means he's over the line a bit. He's probably doing it so he's not stuck behind anything though.

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

It's something the highway code states. Rule 191 I think, but every rider has their own way of filtering. I've also seen a few wing mirrors go flying 😂.

@janinew233 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse oh OK I must tell him then thank you. 😊

@davestatham8668 2 жыл бұрын

Great video and really helpful. I watched your video the other day on cornering which was great as I'm learning to ride. I passed my CBT just over a month ago and now have a CBF 125 2009 model which I love. I'm looking to take my full licence next year. I'm struggling with the speed side at the moment as having that confidence to hit 50mph and I'm not sure why? Any advice on this?

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, David. Speed is something that comes with time as you build confidence. Getting 50mph out of a 125 always feels like you need to try and max it out to get it there. I'd spend a lot of your riding time, if you can, on dual carriageways. You don't have to try and match the speed of other traffic, but instead get used to constantly traveling at say 40mph. Then 45 and son. If you feel uncomfortable at the higher speed drop back down. Time and experience and of course, doing it safely. What kind of speeds do you feels comfortable at just now?

@davestatham8668 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse at the moment 40 to 43 seems to be a limit then I back.off especially if I'm on a 40 road that has a bend. I'm seem to focus on the bend so much that my speed drops to 30 or 35 which I was told in my CBT can be dangerous.

@djtezlawson Жыл бұрын

Yass Stirling!

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

🤜🤛

@clarkie0708 2 жыл бұрын

Bought myself a suzuki 750 srad (first bike) filter with it no problem, you have to be confident to filter I think and be able to adapt and react fast.

@matthewduka7710 9 ай бұрын

The only time filtering annoys me is when at some lights or a junction and they stop on the side I'm indicating so now one of us has to go faster then the other

@davidharrington1133 Жыл бұрын

Any rule that says MUST is a legal requirment

@LRS7B 2 жыл бұрын

Would it be advised to stay in a lower than required gear when filtering, as to be nice and loud to make drivers aware of your oncoming presence ?

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would just match the gear to the speed of the bike. Most likely second. 🤜🤛

@biketayo7055 2 жыл бұрын

Mahilig din ako mag solo ride minsan idol. Positive mind. Positive vibes. Positive life. 🤜🤛 Appreciated with your effort in making video! 🤜🤛 Wish to see your process of being an elite youtube 🤜🤛A53

@victorjose2403 4 ай бұрын

Can you cross a white line (no crossing over, over taking) if you are filtering a stand still traffic or

@loftyintentions1985 2 ай бұрын

Yes, as long as the line isn't solid or if you will impede oncoming traffic.

@WhackingJam Жыл бұрын

I dont think ill ever filter until ive got a bike powerful enough to accelerate quicker than cars

@joetitterington1222 Жыл бұрын

Stirling!

@mitvelkez 10 ай бұрын

Indicators are OK on the motorway but what you really need to look for is wheel angle.

@RISEWARLORD Жыл бұрын

Hi Question, I'm I'm filtering through traffic and someone Opens there door and I hit it who is a fault? But The the goes from split to bold??..

@RISEWARLORD Жыл бұрын

Lines*

@davidferguson4513 2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos, currently learning to ride a bike. Struggling with throttle control, any good tip/drills for this??

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers, David. How are you enjoying riding so far? Empty car parks or similar are great for things like practicing throttle control. What I used to do was to have the bike running but in neutral, and just practice slowly turning the throttle. Try and get to so many revs and hold it for a few seconds then slowly ease it back off. Do this to 1000 rpm then 2000 and so on up to about 4k rpm. Then do the exact same thing but in first gear, just creep along holding it about 1000 rpm. You'll quickly build up muscle memory. It's also worth checking how much free play there is when turning the throttle. There should be around 2-3 mm of free play before the throttle engages. If there's too much free play it might make it harder for throttle control and may need adjusted. 🤜🤛

@davidferguson4513 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse cheers man, I will definitely give this a go. I think I've been using the wrist too much. Quite jerky. Absolutely loving riding and can't wait to get out there! Dont have a bike at the moment so only practice I get is my lessons. However, I have been practicing with a rolling pin from the kitchen 😂 what advice could you give on techniques when rolling the throttle ?

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Slow and steady is definitely the best way to use the throttle. Make sure your grip is loose. The tighter you grip the harder it will be to make smooth motions. Practicing at home is a great idea if you can. Especially getting used to loosely gripping it.

@kellyotb179 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse I didn’t even have that problem but it’s helped me improve thank you sir 💪

@JayDutch-UK-MK 5 ай бұрын

Some very good advice. The bus lanes, are confusing, MAG are trying to get full access, apparently in Scotland its quite low compared to England. But keeping bikers safe is very important. When i am in four wheels i trying to give room for filtering. I do think motorways need a motorcycle lane for safety.

@UKPete Жыл бұрын

Great video thanks!, Newbie rider here. If I ride my bike to work there is a single carriageway (two lanes) but a solid white line heading to some traffic lights that go onto a roundabout, invariably the traffic is stationary on my side during the morning rush hour, My question is can I cross that white line if all the cars are stationary/moving very slow on my side and there is nothing coming the other way?.

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

Hey Peter, solid white lines in general should never be crossed if they're on your side of the road. Obviously emergencies are an exception.

@UKPete Жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse Thanks for the reply and info mate, damn it's like half mile of stationary traffic, with practically nothing on the other side of the line. 😒.

@paulrushton7629 2 жыл бұрын

Some nice points 👍. I, being a rider of bikes and driver of cars would like to point out 1 or 2 items. On a single carriage way ( back road, town, 1 Lane going 1 way and 1 going the opposite) that isn't filtering, that's overtaking. Filtering is threading between traffic moving in the same direction. The lane hoppers your talking about are little different from us bikers filtering (trying to gain any little advantage). I personally think filtering is good. The police wi tell you that filtering is legal as long as you don't have to speed to do it. Not going higher than to 5-10 mph faster than the traffic your filtering past is safer for us the rider. How many bikers use indicators when filtering? Lastly filtering is legal but other road users do NOT have to leave you space. It is not a legal requirement for them to do so. The law is on the bikers side if other road users "close the door " on you. Filtering (passing) at chevrons is fine as long as it has a broken white lines. It is illegal for all road users to cross a solid white line. 1 little tip. The faster you filtering the less likely other road users will spot you. Your risk, not their fault. Happy safe riding.

@softailfun Жыл бұрын

One of the funniest things I’ve seen involved filtering. I was travelling between two lines of traffic on a one way street. Car on the outside Lane sees me coming and moves left (traffic still stationary). It was a blatant act on the drivers part. The amusing part is that a Police bike was following me! He promptly dismounted and “had a word” with the driver, who promptly returned to his lane when the traffic moved forward. I howled I’ll be honest.

@loftyintentions1985 2 ай бұрын

You're wrong about the first one and I would have failed my test if it were true. Had to filter like like that a number of times.

@JohnFarrell-bc8gt 5 ай бұрын

Undertaking doesn't have to be done in "slow moving traffic"

@booshallmighty 2 жыл бұрын

Just what I was looking for. I thought I read somewhere not to filter past the lead car. Is there a reason for this, and any exceptions to this rule? Many thanks

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Well the main reason is because if you did go infront of the lead car there's a good chance you end up with your bike over the white line which is a big no no. If there is a big enough gap then it's the riders call. This is only a suggestion in the highway code and not an official rule but it's always best to be courteous while out in the road. 🤜🤛

@booshallmighty 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse Yea thanks. I just built up the confidence to do some filtering and I did filter past the lead car. I assumed that I would beat them on acceleration so therefore have clean air ahead which would make me feel more safe and comfortable. I'm glad you made this video because I was unaware I was in the wrong. My instructor won't teach filtering and says it won't be expected on my test. That's on December 6th 🤞

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

@@booshallmighty Yeah a lot of schools don't teach it for some reason. I personally think they should. It doesn't have to be in depth but even just the basics. The one thing I will say is only start filtering when you're absolutely confident on the bike, then build from there. There's no rush to start filtering either. All the best for the 6th mate. 🤜🤛

@booshallmighty 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoEcosse Thanks mate, I did ask my instructor on my first day and he said the they (can't remember who), don't like filtering taught to anyone without a licence and I would have to do advanced training when I passed my test. He said filtering will not be taught or expected on my test. I don't think this is right, it's a bit like not being taught on motorways but you can just crack on when you get your licence.

@tiggerlator Жыл бұрын

is filtering a requirement for mod 2? and do you have to filter?

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

It depends on the school. Some schools will teach it and if the opportunity is there on the mod 2 then yes, while others stay away from it. Not all examiners will follow on a motorbike so this pretty much eliminates filtering on test day. We were taught how to filter safely but were told it wouldn't be needed on test day.

@patrickdeclan05g93 Жыл бұрын

Can you filter with a quadbike because wont the gaps sometimes be too small to fit through

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

I personally wouldn't.

@Simon_B Жыл бұрын

Are you allowed to filter at the kerbside of vehicles?

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't advise it, no.

@bertigod9329 2 жыл бұрын

Filtered all the time when on sports bikes👍now on a cruiser, don't bother as much👍just sit there reving like a madman🤣

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@ronniesmith4557 Жыл бұрын

Bike comes up to junction on the right with car in front of him. Car flashes us to come out from the junction because of the density of the traffic and stops to allow us to turn right. Bike undertakes the car on the left (two way traffic)and we cut out in front of the car and bike is this classified as filtering as the bike nearly came into us from the kerb edge near side.. This to me shouldn't be allowed and probably causes many accidents across the country. Especially cyclists. This is traffic stopped for courteous reason. Should he have stayed behind the car that was being courteous until he had turned right.

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't class that as filtering, no. Filtering is when you move through slow or stationary traffic but only when it's safe to do so.

@staldhelmslodge7708 2 жыл бұрын

I was always told 20mph or below is filtering above this it is an overtake but do not over take the lead vehicle on zig zag crossings

@MotoEcosse 2 жыл бұрын

Yep or traffic lights and crossings. 🤜🤛

@jjjakefrench 3 күн бұрын

U guys shod definitely filter I won’t u out the way and gone u know

@edmottram798 3 ай бұрын

I like your videos but you use far too many words. If you were more succinct, your videos would have much more impact and be more watchable. You could have said this video in about 6 or 7 minutes. Otherwise great stuff.

@rm1325 Жыл бұрын

13m in and not a filter in sight....dude, be succinct pls, we are all short on time

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

You wouldn't complain if it was 13 minutes in a class room that might just save your life one day!

@jamesjellema7072 Жыл бұрын

I stopped at the 25th minute. Why make a video about doing something and NOT show what it is you are talking about? Have clips of you in different situations. "This is when you should/can." or can't/shouldn't. The diagrams are fine, but I want to see what it looks like when I'm out there.

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

You'd be surprised how many riders aren't actually taught to filter while learning to ride, it's only once they've passed their test the slowly figure it out for themselves, it's part of the learning process when you've passed your test. Getting comfortable and confident on the bike is going to help a lot more than watching someone filter, but if you feel you need to actually see some filtering then there are lots more videos out there for you. 👍

@jamesjellema7072 Жыл бұрын

Just go do it eh? Great advice, thanks!

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjellema7072 that's not what I said but you do whatever you think is best for you.

@jamesjellema7072 Жыл бұрын

Now I see a different, and way better response. Before it was just "if you want to see it go do it". I'm just starting out and wanted to know when I should/shouldn't, and what kind of things to watch out for.

@MotoEcosse Жыл бұрын

@@jamesjellema7072 mmm that's odd. KZfaq being KZfaq I guess. When it comes to should/shouldn't you need to really think about the width of the gap, if you think you can easily get your bike through then go for it, if you're unsure then hold back. When you do first start filtering, go for gaps that are massive. This is mainly to get you used to passing through traffic. The more you do it, the more it becomes second nature. If there's ever any doubt when it comes to anything related to riding, don't do it until you know it's safe. There will always be another chance to filter, overtake or whatever you plan to do.