A faster way to derive the formula of the curvature of y=f(x) (no vector calculus)

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bprp calculus basics

bprp calculus basics

Ай бұрын

Big thanks to ‪@ianfowler9340‬ for this wonderful way to come up with the formula for the curvature of y=f(x), which doesn't require vector calculus.
Check out the vector calculus way for the curvature of r(t)=x(t)i+:y(t)j • Proving the curvature ...
What is curvature? • What is curvature? (in...
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@ianfowler9340
@ianfowler9340 Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks for the shout out. Did not see that coming. Very nice of you to do that.
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics Ай бұрын
I need to thank you for always leaving thoughtful comments! 😃
@bitoty9357
@bitoty9357 Ай бұрын
probably the curvature is equal to 0 when the function is linear or constant
@MH-sf6jz
@MH-sf6jz Ай бұрын
You can summarise the two with linear and affine linear.
@ianfowler9340
@ianfowler9340 Ай бұрын
From the formula, we can see that the curvature will be 0 only when y' ' = 0. But it is also true that a necessary (but not sufficient) condition for an inflection point that y' ' = 0. So when y = f(x) has an inflection point at x = a, f ' '(a) = 0 and the curvature is always 0 at that inflection point (a,f(a)). All inflection ponts have 0 curvature. The straight line (see comments below) qualifies because y ' ' = 0 for ALL points on the line. Necessary but not sufficient means that we can have y ' ' = 0 but not have an inflection point. f(x) = x^4 is an popular example. f ' '(0) = 0 but (0,0) is NOT an inflection point for y = x^4. But the curvature at (0,0) is still 0 ! So cool. When we solve f ' '(x) = 0 to find the possible x-values of any inflection points we need to use the 2nd derivative test to check that the concavity changes sign to the right and left of the candidate. One of the very few times in high school math where the converse is not necessarily true. Love your new channels. Many topics covered at many different levels. Well done. BTW, have you ever heard of the THIRD derivative test for inflection points? I have never been able to find anyone on KZfaq that has covered this test.
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics Ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes I have heard and used the 3rd derivative test (same examples as the one you provided) but never made a video on that.
@cyrusyeung8096
@cyrusyeung8096 Ай бұрын
1:25 Straight lines have 0 curvature as θ does not change. Or one can utilize the formula, and say curvature is 0 at points of inflection where second derivative = 0
@bprpcalculusbasics
@bprpcalculusbasics Ай бұрын
vector calculus way for the curvature of r(t)=x(t)i+:y(t)j kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrqSjNeTyN7RnWQ.html
@pyrelord6882
@pyrelord6882 Ай бұрын
In France, in the equivalent of the SAT (le bac) we have to present an oral about one of our two principal subject, and you just convinced me to present my oral about "How mathematics can help doctors to find out if you have a problem with your back"
@s从
@s从 Ай бұрын
where can i get that euler's number poster? i want it
@nanamacapagal8342
@nanamacapagal8342 Ай бұрын
I like the little detail that the "k" for curvature in "Thanks" is in black, otherwise it's a very good video
@hassankhamis77
@hassankhamis77 Ай бұрын
Awesome ❤
@mohammadshinwari9643
@mohammadshinwari9643 Ай бұрын
Eid Mubarak!
@abacaabaca8131
@abacaabaca8131 Ай бұрын
Mathematics is really the study of equation. You're not allowed to memorize how the other people reach to their conclusion ( end product formula). They need to know how to reach to the same conclusion and use their own way of math. That involves substituting a familiar term ( or expression) into an equation, so that they reach the same conclusion (or solution). I kind of like this kind of philosophy. When you don't remember things.
@Iomhar
@Iomhar Ай бұрын
That missing bracket is bugging me immensely!
@ensiehsafary7633
@ensiehsafary7633 Ай бұрын
Where?
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