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Feedback works exactly the same way a delay's feedback setting works. Just imagine it's a delay, but the length of the delay is the length of the looper. If you set feedback to any number under 100, the loop will fade out a little each time it plays. New sounds you play into the loop will take their place and also fade out over time.

A really important aspect of the looper that not many people are thinking about - you don't have to think linear anymore. In other words, creating a loop that has no definitive or has a more ambiguous start and end time. One can think of samples as circular - where there doesn't have to be a definitive start and end. For example, you can bring in a sustained note at the "end" part of a sample and wrap it back until the "start". Or you can record a silent loop and start adding synth and efx patches, pads, random notes....at any point in the cycle creating a loop that, as I said, has no definitive start and end time.

Looper is great for transitions when playing live other instruments. In my case : 1. I start playing a pattern on the digitact 2. Record on the SP looper the last 4 or 2 bars 3. Stop playing the Digitakt or lower the volume 4. While the looper on the SP plays I start playing another pattern on the DT with volume lowered by one or more elements and then raising it 5. Delete loop on SP and continue playing on Digitakt

This thing is just so feature packed at the moment. I hope Roland just does a giant bug fix update in a while since There are quite a few bugs that need resolving still and new ones. That would make me enjoy the instrument sooo much more!

Great tutorial fam, and I started using Looper yesterday with my OP-1 Field, and I love it!! I knew the bare bones basics, but I appreciate you breaking down all the little helpful things, thank you homie!!🙏🏾✊🏾💚

being able to bounce to the pad is what i’ve always wanted out of pattern mode. great update

3:00 You can use the bus FX all you want, but when you're overdubbing it's applying the FX to everything. You're working directly with the loop buffer, so if you turn on filter/drive it's going to start driving the buffer. If there's already something in the buffer you're going to get a dramatic gated effect if you don't time it perfectly with the length of the buffer. And if you don't shut it off after a single loop it'll degrade the buffer really bad on the 2nd pass. Because you're working on the buffer directly. That's why bouncing to a pad is so fast. Because you're not actually doing anything. Everything is modifying the buffer in realtime, and when you bounce to a different pad you're just copying the buffer.

Awesome video my guy. Thanks for this tutorial!

Well-done!

I tried this new feature with my Behringer Pro vs Mini. So much fun. Very helpful video.

Love your work bro

Ive watched this video 10+ times. So helpful.

Thanks SPVidz. I need to do the update once I get back from being out of town. Bummer that you can't apply effects in real-time to the loop. I was looking at getting a 505 just for the loop capture function so glad this update came.

Nice tutorial. Thank you.

Nice video man. I will definetly come back to it.👍

Two things: 1. I think you need to just adjust the level of the kick drum "layer" to stop clipping, since each "layer" will be adding gain to the overall signal. 2. Great tutorial, but you forgot to mention that once your loop is all done AND playing inside the Looper, you can use Ctrl 1 to loop certain bars of the loop in real-time.

I haven't tried any of this yet as I'm still learning my way around the unit. I got it in January but don't really get enough time to practice on it but the looper feature looks very useful. I'm really considering the J6 too as I know very little when it comes to chords and after having a play on one in a store I found it quite inspiring.

you are a legend

Thank you for video

works great with my sh-4d

I believe it prints with your bus3/4 settings. So you're running the print through the fx of bus 3/4 again... causing the distortion.

thanks

I create a hihat loop or a sample loop in the right bpm and start with this. So you don’t need the metronome. I know in the settings you can rout the click on your headphones only but this way you can start with a nice loop and go on with all the other sounds. Mute sample pads doesn’t work at the end of the loop. When the last chop is longer than the bar it will play overlab with the one of the loop (obvious because you don’t hit the next pad to cut it of like you have in the sequencer). I solved that by setting the last ssmple chop to gate. The rest of the samples can cut each other of.

neato!

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I would have never figured out the undo redo. That's huge thanks again Bruh.

just here to say that being able to use SUB PAD for tap tempo in this mode would be wicked

A person could quickly build a whole song with the looper. Just save the different parts of the song to separate pads. You could even try out different arrangements this way...a great sketch pad!

I really like RC505 (wish they had a portable one!) Is there a way to use the 404 looper like that? (Keep everything going, record other MIDI sync devices without stopping?)

i didnt even realize it had a looper, holy shit

Thank you for that exaustive video

thanks as always bro! am I right in thinking the difference between looper and pattern mode is with looper you can switch between and record internal and external sounds more seamlessly?

Great video bro and learning a lot since yesterday. Thought i make a beat but was so blown away by all the features and settings that i took me hours to get things done but its slowly getting there! I know, its not related to the video but do you know if the stock sounds will revert back when doing a system reset? Or do i need to backup the project first in order to restore the stock sounds later on? Because now im scared to record over them :(

I was loving this but now for some reason I get a lag and it doesn’t trigger after playing notes but then after a few seconds it will get a signal and trigger

What about [SHIFT] + [COPY] to export ONLY the overdubbed signal. Would that not be a total game changer and insane way to quickly make variations + to have the possibility to process your loop further?

Hello fellow SP users. Encountered another bug. When I go back to SBS from the Loop function my SBS doesnt work anymore 🤔. Will do a factory reset myself as stated in this video. see if that works. Great work @spvids 🤜🤛

I used the new looper feature... recorded a loop and then copied it to an empty pad. Jumped out of loop mode onto the pad i copied the loop to but i have significant volume loss on that pad when i play it/hit it. And not just that specific pad, but tried this with other empty pads, same result. All other pads with sound already pre loaded from factory are at loud level when i play them, however when i press delete button, then the pad in question i copied the loop to, the volume is at the loudness level i wanted it to be originally, just cant understand why its not as loud when i exit delete button and back in normal play mode. My settings on the original loop feature is at 127 level, feedback 100%, play rate 100%, BUS looper, Routing MIX. Anyone else experience this? What am i missing.

would be nice to be able to bounce stems of overdubbed loops to separate pads...

Nice kit, Is it from one of your drum packs?

Sweet demo, can you record using looper mode over USB C into the looper if you have the SP 404 selected as a audio interface for example if you are in Ableton? In this case would you need EXT Source selected. Im new to the 404 so still learning!

will it midi out the clock or will it take an external midi clock to time the loops?

Does the looper work without metronome and without being locked to a BPM? I am really hoping to loop something without stopping the flow of what I’m playing, especially when jamming. Otherwise… why not just record in pattern mode?

just a question, how may I quantize?

hi! do you know why my recorded loops are so much quieter than the playback of loop? once i copy it to a pad it is quiet

How would you go about creating multiple loops like a loop station? I.e you can hear the audio playing on the pads whilst you record another loop using sounds on the sp404 - I've tried it and it picks up the pads that are looping due to being in mix mode and not external mode. Is there a way around this? I have an RC505 aswell and wondering if i can ditch it and only use the SP404. I want to record instruments through the sp404 like i would the rc 505 if its even possible. Any idea?

Maybe this is a dumb conclusion but it seems like Pattern/Project BPM is not linked to Looper BPM, and that once using the Looper you cannot change the BPM via Tap Tempo. Is there a way to change this? I'd like to manually tap in tempo changes rather than adjust via the knob so I never have to stop looping... Maybe the box just doesn't do this. Strange that it doesn't because you COULD do this with the OG 404 Delay Loop technique... I'm so sad Roland seems to have completely killed that old trick...

So cool, I just wish it could be reversed on the fly, also sped up or slowed down like in the DL4

Hello! Sorry for my english. I am trust you, good content video. I have sp404mk2. Not live play. In the home studio. Want change to something What you choose? Circuit rhythm, Blackbox, Digitakt or ..

Good that Roland is spamming with cool updates. Good time for music gear. Novation, Elektron, Akai, even Arturia are spamming with updates, even for older gear.

Okay, for me to undo its shift-delete-pattern select

The looper is better than the mpc

Aah! So it seems the recording buffer is also used for the undo / redo and overdubbing feature. Maybe they could make that one optional in system settings, that way it would double the recording time for the Looper. If that would be possible I would definitely go with that option, because undo doesn’t seem to be very useful in a live mixing situation (like mentioned in the other comment on changing projects with for instance the Digitakt or other external devices). Because for creating patterns or bounced samples I prefer the already available options including Skip Back. And, besides that the Looper is a great and very welcome feature, I can’t see why they didn’t at it is an option to the record settings for Sampling instead of another button combo. The default for that could also be added to system settings. Ps. and thanks 🙏🏻 again for another nice explainer video 😊

I have a question, isn't Looper the same thing as Pattern ?

Undo feature not working, is this just me ?

DJ mode sucks. Definitely not usable for real DJ-ing. But the looper makes it a lot more useful for DJs! I like programming drum machines and sequencers. It feels weird trying to program patterns in the 404. But when you're just using the 404 like normal, the way it deals with BPM makes it a pain in the ass to use with any other gear. The looper is perfect, though. It makes the 404 much less of a MIDI nightmare.

Do you think we should do a factory reset?

Appreciate all the content, but please dont fall for the idiotic cringy thumbnail game man 😢 A lot of channels have lost their credibility in this way, well to me at least. I always feel like an idiot if i click on those thumbnails 😅

yo sp vidz !! Awesome video thanks so much !! Do you think you could contact roland and ask them if they can make the looper at least 16 bars? If they can do that i can make full beats by doubling the 16 bar pattern twice to 32 bars to make a full beat. I'll try to contact them but im not sure if you're in contact with them at all.