Used this system when I was living off my motorcycle. I could make a quick camp by stringing a tarp off the side of the bike and throwing this bag under it. Would protect from any wind, rain, or snow blowing under the tarp. Also did great in the tent.

I had mine in an uninsulated shack in Korea in -20 nights. I stayed toasty all night. I wouldn’t want to ruck it unless I had to, but it does the job.

You can never miss with a Michael Keaton and Jack Nicholson Batman reference.

Great video. I used your information to make my final decision. I bought the system piece meal. I paid $50 for the Bivy & $50 for the Patrol Bag all brand new. I dont plan to camp in extreme cold weather so this is fine. If I need more warmth, a wool blanket will work. To top off my system, I added a $36 Sleep Pad. So for $136, I got a great system. Thanks for the great info.

I was 21 in 1989 when Batman with Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton came out. And I saw it in the movie theater. I was a Boy Scout as a teenager and I camped with my parents too. So I learned something about moderate camping and hiking when I was young. I haven't been camping and hiking much these days. I would have to sleep earlier and focus on doing it. I just happened to notice this video when scrolling through videos suggested by KZfaq. I was searching for a video related to "modern sleep," I think possibly partly related to modern monophasic sleeping patterns compared to older poly-phasic sleep patterns. I had a particular video in mind. But I haven't found it yet. Oh! I just remembered that I was looking for a video about what happens when a night owl wakes up early. And I found it again. But maybe I can continue watching this video later. I also subscribed. Thanks!

I bought a complete MSS (Bivvy bag, patrol bag, intermediate bag and stuff sack) for $140 in new, surplus condition at a gun show last weekend. I got the self inflating ground mat that goes inside the Bivvy bag and under the bags for $20 in new, surplus condition.

What a quality channel, donot lose hope, you will have loads of subscribers. I know its pricy, I bought it for 30 USD from Peshawar, Pakistan, brand new, Bivy, Patrol Bag, Black Bag with all accessories. These were available, mostly people brought it from Afghanistan, left over of US Military. I have used it in below zero temperatures, this is awesome sleep system. One thing is missing in bivy, a mesh to prevent bugs getting in, I am trying to add mesh to it. Great channel, love from Pakistan.

I found this to be quite helpful, and informative. This gentleman did well covering his bases regarding where the info/statistics were derived from. A real straight shooter from what I can tell. Thanks.

Wish I had gotten this system, but I went a different route and now I have to get a better winter bag. Great system and a great review.

I have to say the army sleep system is one of the things they got right. And the reference is from Batman

I always have a poncho and woobie. Shelter problem solved with the sleep system 😊

Read the tags, they state temp ratings. Green bag is 30 degrees, the black bag combo with clothing is -50.

Funny I came across this. I just bought this system. Back in 2011 I was issued this sleep system during my infantry training. I remember we finally got settled in for the night and as soon as I got in, it started raining hard. I mean HARD. I started to laugh because I was absolutely bone dry. All through the night. I thought this piece of kit was amazing.

A few caveats from a U.S. Army officer who's slept everywhere from Fort Bragg, NC to Fort Irwin, CA to Iraq and back in the last 20+ years: 1.) There is a not-shown green stuff sack for the summer-weight patrol sleeping bag as well. 2.) There is a compressible pillow (cameo colored or blue/green pattern) available. 3.) Get the poncho liner. Not the "new" one, but the old cameo one. Get four or five. These heavily-knit sheets with shoelaces on each corner are more like thin quilts, and when used as a bottom bedsheet on a cot or air mattress lets you use either sleeping bag on top as a quilt with a footbox. When used with the entire three-piece sleep system, the poncho liner adds about another 10 degrees F of warmth, and slides around so you can use it to keep your neck warm, etc. They also make great quilt top covers for beds at home. The sleep system was U.S. Marines before it was U.S. Army, which explains some differences in colors on the Internet.

I’ve used this setup recently in 32-35° weather thinking there was no way I’d be cold and I will say I wasn’t terribly cold, but I was pretty damn cold and certainly was not warm and cozy by any means. This was with me also wearing long underwear op and bottom, socks, a thick flannel long sleeve, hoodie and a beanie while also having a flannel sheet and a cotton knit blanket stuffed inside the bag with me.. so in regards to temperature rating I would definitely have to say unless you are fully dressed for extreme cold such as thick wool socks and your extreme cold pants/tops, I would not take this system below 30° without proper clothing and think you’re going to be warm because you won’t be. Oh and this was inside of a jeep as well so no ground temp or wind at play either. So consider that before taking your bag out and prepare appropriately. Aside from that it’s a solid setup, and better than most everyday bags you find on the market, aside from the expensive high compression light weight top of the line stuff you can get now at REI.

Good video brother! I’ve used the MSS that I bought probably over a decade ago at my local surp store for under $100, many many times. Still going strong. I loved it so much that I shelled out just about exactly as much as you did for a brand new one-still in the box in my closet so I have it for the future-if and when old trusty gives out. Also I wanna give a shout out to my old M1949 mountain bag-love that thing too!

I live in Minnesota I'm 60yr old and been using military gear for over 40yrs I've been in some extreme cool weather traveling fright train..No Disrespect the Military system Had cold spot trapped between the layers, I'll went back to my Old Extreme cold it worth caring in My Large Allison Pack I just rolled up in a decent tarp

I love the 1989 Batman movie

Had a old surplus down filled mummy bag years ago. Warmest bag I ever had.The new system is great. Good advice and video.

Great review! Completely agree on the value for the price and the awesomeness of the system. Love the name Crafty Crow, I feel that spirit animal as well. Cool serendipity. Just got this bag system and cant wait to try it this weekend.

Thank you!

i put the black bag in a regular military mummy bag for cold camping . extremely warm like that . much warmer than this type of ecws . the gore tex cover is a must for staying warm . i tried the black bag , alone , for a late fall camp . got down to around 40 degrees . i froze in that bag . no way it is rated for 0 degrees .

The Bivy and 1 (yes only ONE because you will HATE carrying it) are a great budget sleep system. I still have 2 and I’ll never get rid of them. Right now they are relegated to my boys until they move on to something nicer when they get older. I have slept all the way down to 8degF in the bivy and black bag with an inflatable sleeping pad and my winter cloth layers. GTG. The biggest drawback is it’s heavy and bulky. That system took up most of my backpack but it did it’s job and at the time it was all I had to not freeze at those temps. Love these! Now I use the snugpak SF bivy, SF1 bag (similar to the patrol bag but lighter/warmer, TS1 liner and a Hyke & Byke center zip down bag to match. That whole system weighs less than the MSS with the same philosophy of use. I have never used it all together, rather, I mix and match what I need depending on the worst case conditions I expect. Cheers! 🤙🏽

Liked the video. I’ve been in the Army since 1994. In the reserves now. The MSS is far superior coming from the days of a sleeping bag wool blanket and a shelter half. When we go to the field we have the Litefighter tent which is okay but not a four season tent. You can buy an add on that will winterize it. I still carry the Bivy cover as I can throw my ruck, assault pack and boots inside and it is completely waterproof. Mainly because the tent can’t hold the stuff in it. If you haven’t tried the Litefighter tent, you should.

Lowest bidder still has to meet military specs. Thanks for your video. Will be getting this system next month.

I've used my MSS for about the past 5 years. It's a great set of bags. I use it year-round and generally split it according to the weather. A little on the heavy side especially for a winter camp.

Ok, I guess I’ll be the movie guy, it’s from Batman Jack nicklson says this to everyone before he kills them. It is still my favorite of the Batman series

Great video brother. I got my system for $90. I actually set mine up in a different configuration. I go patrol 1st, heavy bag 2nd then Gortex cover. Dress it up just like layering my clothes. Lighter layers closest to my body then work my way out. Works for me. Never hurts to invest in a REALLY GREAT PENDLETON WOOL BLANKET. Bought a queen size chief Joseph pattern Pendleton blanket. My wife guards that one but talk about WARM. You could sleep in Antarctica with that thing.

The higher priced ones are usually the hand-picked ones in the best shaped, some of which are even overstock from Tennier (like when they’re ending a line), or had never been issued, but returned.

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

Just saw your video….this system looks GREAT! I’m going to chase this set down! Thank you for posting this video!

Great review

I bought mine a few years ago. It had only been used on one outing in Texas. The guy that sold mine to me (on eBay) bought five for his family. He said that his family didn't like the idea of feeling like they were sleeping in coffins. So after I bought it the guy refunded me $10 because he couldn't find the compression bag and I got the entire system for $117 including shipping. But he bought them brand new. Could had I afforded more than one bag at the time, I would have bought 2 or 3. But turned out the guy looked everywhere but in the boxes for the compression bags. It would have been $127. So I got a steal at nearly $120 for practically a brand new sleep system. I added a fleece liner and a liner that's like a sheet, sewn 3/4 of the way around looks like a rectangle sleeping bag. But thinking about taking the stitchings out and sewing it into the fleece liner. So it keeps everything clean... And I bought a refurbished Klymit memory foam camp pillow, to add to my sleep system. It really was a great investment on my part...

Lol I just ran across this video and the intro had me rolling... Gained a follower lol

Batman. Yeah, I'm old too. Great video bro!

I have the grey intermediate cold bag, which I guess is the equivalent of the black portion of the system you have, but it looks a little different, like yours might be a newer version. In any case, the tag on the foot says it's designed for use between 30 and -10. I wouldn't trust it at -10 and would be wary of it at 0, but I have used it down to 20 with a thermal base layer and 3.8R Thermarest pad and it was very warm. I often use mine upside down so the hood lays over my head instead of under it. It's also really good in warmer weather for unzipping and turning sideways to use it like a quilt. The insulation in these things is Primaloft - a very good synthetic insulator designed for the US military, but also still in use by Nemo among other high end outdoor brands. It's kind of a heavy, bulky bag, but as far as synthetic bags go it's still more compact than a lot of more expensive civilian options and the peripherals are very heavy duty. The zipper opens just by ripping the bag so you don't have to fight with it. For the price you can pick these up for they're THE single best choice for people on a budget. They are every bit the equivalent of a top of the line civilian brand synthetic bag for a mere fraction of the cost. I paid a whopping $2.75 for mine at a thrift store and it gets more use than my $400 down bag because it's so much more comfortable and durable. And they are very comfortable, roomy bags.

That is a sweet sleep system for sure. Nice t-shirt.

Jack Nicholson... Batman great movie I seen it at the drive in lol wow I'm old

I got a $50 coleman 0° synthetic north rim bag, a $50 nemo switchback closed cell foam mat r-value of 2, and a $50 wool/alpaca mix blanket that's big but thin so I can fold it in half and still have plenty of room under it. I camp in a hammock and have been down to 28° and sweating. A bit heavy at around 8lbs with the hammock and tarp and also looking into an underquilt so about 10lbs all said and done but my whole pack with everything is only about 15-20lbs compared to the old days when you couldn't go camping for under 35lbs worth of gear

Use you Bovey the patrol bag and a woobie and you can get down into the 30s and still stay pretty light

A minor mistake people make is the bag orientation. the intermediate/Winter bag goes inside the patrol bag, not the other way around. The people who claim getting cold at 30 degrees I lay you 10 to 1 are laying on cold steel of a vehicle with wind freezing said steel and or have their bags layered improperly....or are just on the ground using no pad. I don't care how cold you sleep, there is no way in HELL this system will fail at 30 degrees without user error. Maybe if you strip first?🤣

I got the two bags I need the bivy and the stuff sack then ill have it all just can't find the bivy in good condition and in woodland camouflage but I'll find it one day but the one I really want is the sleeping bag and bivy that was used in 1978 all I see is the bivy

Great review my friend, but don't forget..."Never rub another man's Rhubarb"...lol

Jack Nicholson wants to know you Cold weather tips. Especially after he danced by the pale moonlight at the overlook... shoulda took your tips.

I would also encourage you to take a look at the CARINTHIA DEFENCE 4 SLEEPING BAG. Military grade and ready for just about any weather.

Excellent review!

Just a warning to anyone who has not used a bivy before. your body produces a HUGE amount of moisture as you sleep. its unreal. If its raining and you have to close yourself in. there is NO amount of ventilation that will pull out all the moisture you produce and just the amount of moisture from your breathing will actually turn the dome over your face into a terrarium. It will RAIN inside your bivy from the moisture coming out of your lungs. thats ok if you can dry all your things the next day. I once was caught in a rain storm that lasted 4 days. I didnt have a way to dry out my sleep system. so good fabric can be wet and still retain heat. So for a night my bed was soaked, I was warm and wet. it was a bad nights sleep but I was able to sleep and I avoided hypothermia easily. just sucked. so in good weather I love sleeping outside. no tent. just my bag. In bad weather, a bit of rain, kinda cold, be away from services for a week. you need a tent. Hands down.

USGI gear might be built by the lowest bidder but it's made to spec and in the USA.

"You wanna get nuts?! Come on...let's get nuts!!" --Batman aka original...

Through review - thanks for sharing.

Going for 180 on Amazon right now

Earned my subscription 8 seconds in....

Said buy the joker in Batman

Buzz Aldrin said we did Not go to the moon

You can look at the new woobie the military is using.. they have zippers..

1st version of Batman I do believe

Great system. The BIVY has another purpose. Can you guess what it is ?

Just subbed to the channel from this video! With this system was there any issues with condensation inside the bag after sleeping out in the cold? I had this issue with the poncho & liner ranger roll set up. Thanks and awesome channel!

Batman returns bro

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Batman! Jack Nicholson

They go for $200 in Canada. I picked up just the green patrol bag for $40 at surplus store, and recently another one for $8.99 at Value Village. Both patrol bags look brand new, no tears, no markings. If you are like me and own two patrol bags, they will work together. If you own all three, then you have more temp options: green or green+green, or green+black. Any idea what insulation is used in them? I got Gen III level 7 pants for cheap just because the army changed the insulation they use in it. I have a Canadian Army bivy but would rather have the USA ones as they are better designed than the simple envelope design of the Canadian ones.

Im a big guy....will this system suit bigger persons? What is the girth measurement?

batman. i have a 30 day hike coming. Is it lite and will this work...

This an awesome sleeping sistem, where can I buy a sistem like this? and is it possible to buy it in Mexico or import it, Greetings, great video

Do they make a long size? The last military bag I bought was too short, I’m 6’3.

I say that to all my prey

Could you provide the link to this sleep system?

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The Bivy is not totally Gortex, the bottom half is waterproof coated and not breathable,only the top half.

You look like you have a large upper body. I'm about your age, and of course I know the quote. I want to buy one of these, but I'm a former powerlifter. I'm only 6' tall, but I have a giant rib cage. I wear a size 48 jacket. I tried on the largest mummy bag at REI, and I couldn't fit in it. My upper body is about 60" in circumference. Will I be able to fit in the whole system when it's all put together, or will I not be able to move my arms?

Hi m8 where to buy it

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Batman...the Joker said it Thanks

Ok. I'm fat. About 60" in chest and belly. How snug is this bag?

i own one

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"Batman" movie?

Batman.

I know who you are.

Batman circa 1990

this bag goes down to 51 below zero best bag you can buy

-2 in celsius looks a little bit not like a test temperature. SImple Alexika Tundra sleeping bag allow me to sleep in comfort - 12 celsius(inside tent, but with no special clothes). Its intresting to test MSS in Russian winter, but unfortunately it's not an option to buy it on the e-bay or amazon with shipping to Moscow right now.

I always have a poncho and woobie. Shelter problem solved with the sleep system 😊

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