Been seeing that for years, your not alone on this one.

@@user-vx5rz2bp4f nutter

Take no notice of the nutters your vote matters if you don’t want to be ruled by a different culture

Whataboutism strikes again 🙄

@@user-vx5rz2bp4f don’t take no notice of the nutters every vote matters if you don’t want to be ruled by a different culture So don’t forget to vote

@@user-vx5rz2bp4f any one but KHAN anybody

yes women live longer and got part of their husbands pension .The old pension was £47 a week less.

I don’t think you quite understand why womens was years less. If you had the inclination to listen rather than just a couple of lines I’d quite happily explain. I wish I could send you a chart which shows the very unequal pension pots of Men versus women. Despite this most women would of been happy us ALL men and women to retire at 63 but guess what The Government didn’t want men to retire earlier. I speak to builders roofers as I’m from construction family and explain they need get another career by 49-45 as Gov’t want to increase to 70/75. So I’d spend your time fighting against that.

@@angelataylor3209 The State pension age had nothing to do with pension pots. Women, who had a longer life span than men, were allowed to receive the State pension 5 years earlier than men giving the average retired woman a pension for about 8 years longer than men thereby costing far more than men’s pensions.

@@keithwelton Could you for a moment consider the broader issue of what the poorly notified changes impact has been on families, women do not exist in a vacuum, all have lost out in the poorly notified change.

@@rosalindchrister The change from 60 to 65 retirement age for women was well known for a long time before implementation. I have zero sympathy for the ignorant who happily accepted being able to retire 5 years earlier than men for many decades even though women have a longer life expectancy.

I was born in 1961 I have to wait till I'm 67 , why should the 50's women be treated differently. If they had taken greater notice of news they would have known what was happening , I wasn't sent a letter saying I'm going to have to wait an extra 7 years , bit I read papers , listen to news etc

@@angietoweyShould be the same age as men. If the Tories get in again then it will be raised to 70 then 72.

The retirement age for men was 5 years higher than for women for decades, I notice you weren't furious about that.

Tough, I am a man of a similar age and why should I have to work 5 years longer than you, you are being sexist and discriminatory.

Feminists got the equality they wanted. Stop whining

And why don't men who didn't get a pension until over 60 complain about discrimination? Pensions are not a right, they are a gift from the government though never stated as such. They are part of the social contract that when you are working you are paying the pensions of those who have already started receiving one and that when you get to retirement age this will apply to you. However the government have to do what is best for the population as a whole so when lifespans start to increase or the working population reduces they need to keep the books balanced. The biggest problem today is the estimated 500,000 young people who have never worked and are living off handouts and so not contributing to this social contract. WASPI women stating that they were robbed is like saying I never got a christmas present so I was robbed. In 1950 the average UK lifespan was less than 68, it is now nearer 81. When pension ages were set to 60 and 65 it took into account that women were usually married and would outlive their husbands. Times have changed and this has got to be taken into account and the WASPI women are ignoring these hard facts. My pension age was raised when I was working but I have never felt I was owed more because of it. I knew well in advance what was coming for both men and women and have always made sure I was going to be prepared for retirement. I was born in the 50s but never buried my head in the sand.

@eljay5009 I don't think anyone ever said it was fair. White collar workers have always benefitted more than blue collar workers because of different life expectancies, certainly wasn't fair when it was set up but I don't see how it can be made 100% fair when nobody knows how long they will live or how the economy will perform in the future.

Please read up on what’s happened

I spent x9 years exactly in the RAF from 1975-84. I get a pension as I completed my original engagement. So I’m baffled by your comment.

the old pension was £47 a week less and got their husbands pension and live longer .

@@Jack-fs2im ???🤔

If you don't get a decent pension, then that's your fault, no one else's. Pensioners had a 10.5% rise last year and 7.6% rise this year, so WE could hardly have asked for more. Many people, unlike me, retired early and are now whinging about their pension. Some people took the lump some they were offered and blew it all. Then now whinge. Some people, though, had a bit of common sense and are glad they didn't. Most pensioners are just grateful they are being looked after.

⁠​⁠@@alandraper7901 I never said anything about not getting a decent pension. I just said in my case it was pushed back twice. I worked consistently from 16-63 years and took out a private pension as it would be foolish to rely just on the state pension - knowing it could be inadequate or delayed, as indeed the latter was.

Yes, my late wife was born in 1955. Didn't get her pension until she was 66. She was extremely cross about the whole debacle.

Then let’s rise up together with us and fight against it like young people did in France and Poland. But guess what they didn’t tell us -1950s so that we wouldn’t inform you. Govt didn’t want it to get out. No paid childcare places back in the 70’s 80’s we lost out. Women currently according to an expert on Peston Men’s pensionpot 293 women just over 60. It will be at least 2040 before they equal. So then and only then should it have gone up for women. Womens were not allowed to join private pensions in the workplace it was men only. It’s never been a level playing field We all need to fight together don’t blame each other. My 39 yrs son has had to help me out I feel terrible about that. It’s not just affecting us but all members of our family.

So true

If you were paid less money than men for doing the same job, then the employer you worked for broke the law and must be sued.

It was *not* 'bulldozed through in one year'. It was announced in *1995* and (even after accelerated) was phased in over 8 years from 2010 to 2018. So there was 15 years notice for those who were expected to work one extra year. Those who would be expected to work until age 65 actually had *23 years notice.*

@@dominicbuckley8309 An increase to 65, phased in between 2010 and 2020, was included in the 1995 Pensions Act, but in 2011 the coalition government sped up the process. As a result, the state pension age for women increased to 65 by November 2018, and then to 66 by October 2020.

@@fairplayer7435I'm afraid things were very different in the 50s/60s/70s Your statement would hold no ground in those times. Women were paid much less than men for the same work and also tended to do poorly paid work because there was no child care so worked for pin money around them if they worked at all out of the home. Life was very different, educational opportunities were very different for average women. Men didn't want to their wives to work and employers expected them to leave work when they became pregnant as did their husbands and society. Women were not expected to have careers and most did not have the opportunity which has put many into poverty in their later years. People don't understand how life was for these women, working class women mostly, and the limited lives they had which has affected them adversely in later life.

​@@susanfletcher8960 I understand your POV. So even important laws like the Equal Pay of 1970 in the UK did little to nothing to improve the situation? In any event, this is why IMO, individual action often achieves more outcomes than political movements. Best wishes to you.

We are the Men worked 5 years longer, We are the Men who paid in 5 years longer, We are the Men who did the more arduous work, We are the Men who died far earlier and collected less pension because of this, We are the Men who did far more than their bit, We are the men who will not stop in our fight against spurious claims like this, because we are the idiots who will be taxed to pay for it if it goes through. Arthur Chadwick - Centre half, Portsmouth.

@@user-vx5rz2bp4f Thank you. I did ponder momentarily over that when I was typing!! But please excuse me this once as l am bleary eyed and haven’t had my first cup of coffee yet…….!😀

An increase to 65, phased in between 2010 and 2020, was included in the 1995 Pensions Act, but in 2011 the coalition government sped up the process. As a result, the state pension age for women increased to 65 by November 2018, and then to 66 by October 2020. I was informed by the DWP I would be retiring at 63 I had no problem with that, but they kept upping it without informing us.

If you pay taxes, then this issue affects you.

@@fairplayer7435 Yes. Point taken.👍

I was never informed.I believe we were on the cusp of compensation when Sunak called the election.

You're owed nothing. Women were finally made equal to men. It is all the men who had to work 5 years longer than women all those years who deserve a payout.

I think they’ll eventually pay something, but they’re waiting for most of us to die off🤔

waspi women don't deserve anything. They got away with being paid out 5 extra years with less contributions for decades compared to men. It is men who deserve the compensation historically.

Hope so you got husbands pension and live linger.Pension equality for men is needed

@@Jack-fs2im Not if you’re divorced you don’t, let’s turn this around would you just sit down and not say anything if the mens was increased at the same time?

I checked my SPA at 57/58 was given my retirement date although it had been 60 if stated you now retire at 62.7 but guess what they put up again the very next year!!!!65.7 Trouble is I believed first one and wasn’t informed and retired on the basis and was vomabtariky informed of any rises. . 6yr increase when it had never gone up since it’s inception. Give your head a wobble

Good point. But you can’t claim that retrospectively. Nice try though!

No because that equality isn't allowed, only equality that benefits women is allowed apparently.

If you can provide proof that you put the same hours as women put into looking after men and the children when she comes home from work you maybe onto something. We also loved weekends filled with cleaning washing and ironing making Sunday lunch whilst hubby’s at the pub. I earned an earlier retirement mate.

@@Andrew-tx9jy Really??? Oh please! You have conveniently chosen to overlook the fact that grown men who now identify as women, are permitted to compete in women’s sports. A massive advantage (for these men) - and why some are excelling where they previously failed spectacularly when pitched against other testosterone filled men. How is that equality and slanted in favour of women? You are taking nonsense.

@@cgat1955 Bogus !

Don't waste your time Their resentment is so extreme. In reality they don't support pensions for women at all.

Yes and when it went up to 66 one year extra , not 6

@@carolinadavies5589 Agreed, it just keeps going up just like that 🤷🏼‍♀️

Rushed on you. You had years of notice, unless you lived on Mars of course. This is nothing more than a bandwagon for free cash if you can get it.

@@enigma7791 The parliamentary ombudsman doesn't seem to agree.😉

I find it amusing that men like yourself always seem to have something to say when women’s rights are being violated as in this particular instance! You have written about the post office 🏤 scandal and how men have been expected to work until the age of 65 in this country! It’s a great pity that you even tolerated the retirement age but then again football ⚽️ is the most popular subject men seem to be involved with other than their own wellbeing!

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I didn’t get my pension until I was 66, I’m 69 and still working as a carer because I can’t afford to live on my pension.

None of this applied to these women you surely are talking about present arrangements.’we had to leave job if we got pregnant and no free childcare

Exactly. Nothing at all was stolen, it was never theirs. EVERYONE pays into the state pension pot including all the men who had to work 5 years longer than women before they got their money and quite often die much sooner - THEY are the people who should get money if anyone but if this spurious claim is met THEY are the ones whose taxes will rise to pay for it. Disgusting!

I agree I was a Council Tax Officer. My local authority wrote to all managers to say the women's pension age was rising an also the age you could get Pension Credit was also rising in line with it. As traditionally managers use to tell men they could retire at 60 and get pension credit until 65 when they would get their state pension. They took no notice of it.

​@@Andrew-tx9jy my former line manager that was well aware of the women's retirement age rise is now pretending she knew nothing of this as Waspi and a SNP MP is promising these women £10,000 in compensation. There was a High Court case in 2019 and a Court of Appeal case in 2020 and the Government won both cases. The judges said no sex discrimination had taken place and that the DWP publicity was adequate. Remember the DWP was called DHSS then.

The problem was they didn’t inform anyone so how would they know.

​@@cgat1955 It was broadcast loud and clear in 1995, 2010.

@@trytellingthetruth.2068 Where was it broadcasted?

​@cgat1955 TV, radio and gov website.

@@AT-ytinvasive Unfortunately not everyone watches tv or listens to radio. I did receive a letter from the DWP 15 years after the original law was passed informing me that the pension age would be rising In stages, I calculated that I could retire at 63. Then it changed again and I wasn’t informed that I couldn’t retire until I was 66. An increase to 65, phased in between 2010 and 2020, was included in the 1995 Pensions Act, but in 2011 the coalition government sped up the process. As a result, the state pension age for women increased to 65 by November 2018, and then to 66 by October 2020.

@eljay5009 Quite right, too.

The Tories have been spending your pension money on themselves and lots of dodgy things never trust any torie

Agree

EVERYONE paid in but by your argument the men who a to work 5 years longer would also have to pay more in taxes to pay for undeserved 'compensation' for who retired earlier. Women were finally made equal to men. It is all the men who had to work 5 years longer than women all those years who deserve a payout.

You knew. Everyone knew. Stop making out you didn't, it doesn't wash.

No one is questioning equality.. its how it was done, so whilst on equality do females and males get paid the same for the same job...no they don't!! Nice one trigger!

Yes they do. And women get treated fairer and better than men. There wouldnt be an argument if women were still stuck in the kitchen again?​@@rmenfrance7065

If men’s pensions had a 5 year hike before they could receive it, don’t you think they’d have something to say about it?

@@josimpson7999 Great point.

@@rmenfrance7065 Wow another one who believes the lies! If I was an employer and could pay women less than men, no man would ever get a job. Too many WASPI women are liars and grifters.

What about the millions of men who recieved more pay for the same work as women for decades?

You over entitled white males and your pathetic what aboutism's. What about thefact you've been be paid more than women all your live. Grow up.

@@yvonnemccalla7282 That myth will never die will it? I’m amazed that so many men are able to find work when employers can pay women less. Oh hang on, they can’t.