Must have not been feeding them properly

See? This is where free-range, organic naugas would be useful! Lol

The land used to shake when the nauga herds were at their peek. Then man hunted them until they were almost extinct. Only the RV industry save them with conservative efforts. The years of imitation nauga caused the peeling problem. 😅

Many will say they are leather. But they are bonded leather which is cheap 'leather soup'. Top grain or better is the way to go.

That's pretty cool. what did they send to replace it

I was at Tiffins 50TH anniversary in Wyoming. Bob and his wife were there. I was luck enough to talk BOB alone in the 50TH anniversary Allegro bus before he was swamped by people, great guy.

@@AZExpert A Newmar RV :)

Well, don’t expect it going forward, Thor bought Tiffan and Thor acted like I had antique plates on my 2016 Thor Tuscany when I inquired about replacement skins. They couldn’t have cared less.

You're welcome

Thanks for watching!

I still recommend renting first

It's a shame

I appreciate that!

I'm glad it worked out, I am still baffled that the manufacturers get away with fabric failing

Thanks for watching!! :)

Of course they wont

I dont think anyone will address it

Thanks 👍

wow nice

Awesome

Are you talking about Flexsteel?

The woman that started the company used to work for Flexsteal (spelling intentional) and bought all the seat templates from them when they stopped supplying the RV industry (because of this peering seat disaster). You are out of luck if you have Villa junk.

Very Sad

It's very nice! They do sometimes put TVs in awkward places

Thanks Steve

I've seen a lot of damage

lol

I know! A crazy amount of rain this year

@@AZExpert I was concerned regarding the monsoon and your RV. Keep safe there.

I've never toured there but I do like Tiffin

That's too bad! I hope you get it under control or replaced

Yeah this was just a quick check to get him on the road

I bet! I would too, recovering chairs is a ton of work

Our little two person couch in my TT, they wanted 2k to recover. Can purchase Rec Pro new for same price roughly.

It really was a shame

That's awful :(

Seems like they know their product is garbage

They do have a Mesa location right off of Mesa Dr and the 60. But the first store was in La Mesa, CA.

@@AZExpert thanks for the history lesson😁

That's awful.

Yeah they will

Thanks for watching!! :)

They are great! and easy to order from amazon

I started ordering from Zoro, half the cost of Amazon!

Thanks for the comment

For Winnebago, it was indeed Ultraleather, made by Ultrafabrics, Inc. and the peak problems were between mid-2015 and 2017.

Awful

You're welcome!

Thanks Scott! Yes I do get a lot of emails, it takes me a WHILE

So he had to go...LOL..it was a quick inspection

Yeah, I have recovered a few things...it's not the best time

LOL Thanks...most people like to harrass me about it. I dont have time to mess with a tripod most of the time

That's awful

OOf Sorry to hear

It's just unfortunate

Awesome

I'm sorry. It's unfair

Those are pretty old, I would replace them

If you do buy it, set yourself a 60mph speed limit, and drive gently, until you can replace them ASAP. The 9th week of 2005 was a LONG time ago. Put 3 eye bolts though each of them, and sell them as tire swings "with lots of tread left".

I always recommend inspections but since they are so much smaller and the roof is not the same--the roof blowing off is not really an issue with these.

@@AZExpert Thanks, James

It really is

I didn't add that. If I added everything in the videos would be 4 hours long and people would be asleep. :)

they just took a chance and it ended badly for them

Its bad

No you dont need a special license

@@AZExpert *as long as your state of residence doesn't require a special driver's license.

You could call Cassones in Mesa, that's prime busy season though

thank you. I wish I could, Truthfully, making content does cause me anxiety a bit.

Yes, tread depth is almost never an issue and is mostly meaningless. 7 years is the unofficial age of concern on tires.

I drive enough to use up a set of tires in 3 years. I'll buy new old stock tires (often on eBay) up to 3 or 4 years old, if they're 20% or more less than new new (up to 1 year old). So, I sometimes end up running on tires 6-7 years old, that I installed as new old stock. I'd even be fine running on them a bit longer, as long as I see no signs of sidewall aging/cracking. By 9-10 years after the DOT date, I'd get new tires even if all seems well. Personally, I also stay 10mph more below the speed rating for each year beyond 6. So at 10 years old, I'd be down to 78mph on T (118mph) tires, basically forcing their replacement. With S rated 112mph tires, hitting 9 years old drops my personal speed limit to 82mph, also a death sentence for the tires. Note that my climate in New England is pretty easy on tire aging, plus my normal parking locations cause very little baking of the tires in the sun. I also always run tires that are several load index numbers above stock. If I didn't, and was working the tires to the fairly small safety margins that car manufacturers give you with stock tires, I'd be even more strict about retiring tires due to age.

yes and no, Cal was not heading out until the next day and had time to add water if he needed it. Thanks!

I do not

I agree 100%, they should honor replacement of the material for at least ten years, heck the materials on my 2001 motorhome are still in good shape, it was pointless money savings of maybe a $500 from what I can see.

@@AZExpert Well James here is what I foumd out from within Newmar Corp. Don't know about any other company, just Newmar. It's funny that you mentioned $500. I suggest to the VP of Sales that they raise every one of the lines from Bay Star to King Aire $400 on the build invoice. We all know that $400 isn't going to keep anyone from buying one of these new. Then just use the real Ultra Leather, a Japannese product and the issue would go away. But that didn't happen. What did happn was Mr Lambart refused to make furinture for them. He told me, when I talked to him, that no one thought it was Newmars fault, they all thought he built a bad chair. He didn't like that and when Newmar kept on ordering that crap he said for his own reputation he just would not supply them anymore. When my 2018 had the same issue as my 2015, I came unwound. Yes they offered to fix it with all new coverings on all the furniture but the material they gave me to choose from was some of the same crap. I called them out on it and we settled for real Ultra Leather Brisa Distressed. This was a product that was used in King Aires and the "new at the time" class C's. Now to the root as to why no one was intersted in just fixing the problem up front. It seems that Newmar has a system where any repair that is "warranty" as in a build issue is charged back to manufacturing. The folks on the line have a salary + a bonus program. I don't know ezactly how the bonus is accrued or paid, but it is held in a seperate account on the statement. Any "warranty" repairs that are charged back to production are paid out of that account before bonus's are figured. So you see, sales gets their full gross and the poor folks that build the unit pay for it out of their bonus account, so sales can keep a high gross. Neat trick if you are VP of sales. Who I undersand isn't there as of this summer. Also made the Company look really good to prospective buyers at the time. It worked it seems. But I understand that the new President has done some realignment on several departments and the cheap crap is not in play anymore, at least at Newmar. I want to be clear Newmar stood up to fixing the problem for a lot of folks. The rule was original owner only and I believe within five years of the build date. I do know of a couple of upper end London Aire and Essex units that the second owners got some relief as well. I am in fact, after having three Newmar products and being without a coach for two years looking for a little smaller coach than my to 44' Dutch Stars. I'm activley hunting a 40' 2012-15 all electric 4018 Dutch Star right now. So still a solid Newmar buyer. They have always been fair with me but someof hte issues just could have been avoided with better managment.

LOL, I'm just not as available

YOu can order from the dealer too

@@AZExpert Thank you James

@Tim Michaels Not sure where you’re located here in Cal, but in SoCal we ended up getting ours out at Walt’s in Corona, or at a Camping Worst because no one had any anywhere including Amazon.

They do

It was going to peel no matter what you used on it

And pay out the nose

@@AZExpert I don't think it's very expensive. And maybe it's a little more than the aftermarket but in my experience it is superior.

because I don't sell them

Sometimes

@@AZExpert I see...well can I ask you a major question?.....what's the very best roof for a full timer that plans on keeping the same rig for many years?

Yes very

I'm sorry to hear that

Correct

Its actually on the title screen

36GH

@@AZExpert no idea what a title screen is but it's the 36GH, 38' long. great floorplan.

You should reach out to some of these owners, they could probably use your expertise

@@AZExpert it's a bit tough these days because of the expense. I'm currently building my own 33 ft rv renovation and it cost me $800 Canadian to rebuild my sofa/bed(no labour, at cost). I replaced all the foam, modified the structure a bit and recovered it. Proper leather would be plus $800 at least. People are finding it hard these days to justify the expense. I think these days there needs to be more consumer protection against the creation/importation of crap that just ends up in the landfill. These products they are selling are "bonded" products that obviously have a problem with the "bonding" part. A good wearing fabric, vinyl or real leather will serve people well. I found your channel because of my reno and appreciate your personal ethics. Thanks for your hard work.

No one will ever do it. Getting blood from a turnip

The lawyers will get a million or two, and consumers will get coupons for $5K off any purchase over $100K, or a coupon for $1000 off a set of new skins at some still-extremely-profitable price for the RV makers. What they should really do, is release free CAD files into the public domain, to let any upholsterer cut exact replacements, for each and every seat/cushion/etc. Instead, thousands of people will be paying thousands of upholsterers to fiddle around measuring and fitting replacement fabric/leather, often wasting material due to mistakes and/or quirks of each version of each piece of furniture.

I don't blame you

They don't have oil on them, unbunch your knickers or you might have a stroke geez

Probably less attractive

They use as cheap as they can

They don't care

I don't have anything to transport, you can contact the dealer if you want though

No time for that

There has to be a way to transport them, so yes--ocasionally I get paid to transport\inspect them.

It was a failed experiment with a new product