From the fiction of Robert Howard to Marvel's expansion, the stage is set for the creation of the 1982 classic sword and sorcery film.
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@SynchronizorVideos8 ай бұрын
Having only known Conan from the two Arnold films, I bought a collection of the original Howard stories a handful of years back, and was surprised at how fun they were. The original Conan is a great adventure story character, and way more well-rounded than I think a lot of people realize.
@dane30388 ай бұрын
Do you know the Riddle of Steel? I'll give you a hint. In the movie, neither of Conan's Fathers knew it. But Conan did.
@KairuHakubi8 ай бұрын
You could also check out the 90s animated series. and by check out, I mean 'watch the theme song, it's incredible'
@aelfredrex83548 ай бұрын
Howard was a great writer. I've read many of his non-Conan works. His best genre was probably boxing stories. His use of imagery makes you see and feel every punch.
@kanukki848 ай бұрын
Arnold was nothing like Conan from the novels.
@dane30388 ай бұрын
Neither is that Frezetta art the fans are so fond of. But I don't think we're supposed to notice that. @@kanukki84
@nothumbbowler18028 ай бұрын
My favorite movie ever. And I'll always maintain, it is terribly misunderstood. Obviously a telling of hero's journey, and the whole movie Conan fails until the end. But the ending gives Conan a sense of reluctance. He burns down the Mountain of Power, only after some time of contemplation. And finally repudiates all that is Thulsa Doom, by walking past the princess as she bows to him. On one hand it represents a greater triumph. Not enough to kill Thulsa Doom. Conan then does not fall into trap of becoming his enemy. But there is also a sense of bitter-sweetness to the victory. Conan is a warrior because he has to be in that world. And perhaps he will fight in my wars and feuds to come, but it is because he must.
@Gene-XL8 ай бұрын
Much of my youth was spent reading the books and absolutely absorbing the comics, especially: Savage Sword Of Conan. Some of my best times were spent in those pages!!!
@jasonblalock44298 ай бұрын
19:00 I'm eternally astounded at how much faith Milius had in Poledouris - who was pretty unproven at the time. Conan NEEDS its score, more than most movies. Since there's so little dialogue, the score is the only thing holding scenes together. If Poledouris had failed, the entire movie would have likely failed. But instead, of course, he nailed it and delivered an absolute GOAT.
@TheYoufuckingtubeabl8 ай бұрын
Between Big Wednesday, a score that is on a Conan level of awesomeness and for Milius, and The Blue Lagoon... There was enough evidence for Poledouris as the right man for the job.
@weldonwin8 ай бұрын
Funny thing to consider, that Stone's Conan script, being set in a Post-Apocalypse wasteland, with cloning, mutants and freaks, sounds uncannily like the Hanna-Barbara cartoon series Thundarr The Barbarian. Wonder if there is a connection there...
@Delightfully_Bitchy8 ай бұрын
Oh, most definitely.
@digitaljanus8 ай бұрын
Roy Thomas worked on both.
@613harbinger3168 ай бұрын
Also reminds me of Yor: Hunter from the Future
@weldonwin8 ай бұрын
@@613harbinger316 But I think we can all agree that Yor has by far the best Theme tune
@613harbinger3168 ай бұрын
@@weldonwin I couldn't remember it so I had to watch it on KZfaq. Thank you for reminding me!
@Caernath8 ай бұрын
A while back I started reading all the Conan stories written by Howard. What I like about is, is that in his tales Conan is often a tool used to create a variety of adventures. Sometimes he has to sneak his way in, other times he's leading entire armies. In one tale he is even a murder suspect. It shows a complexity in Conan's character and the world he lives in, that's lacking in other barbarians.
@gratuitouslurking86108 ай бұрын
With recently diving in head-first into Conan Exiles, I found myself quite captivated with even just the small snippets of the grander universe and story of Conan. Perfectly timed, good sir.
@stevena4888 ай бұрын
Two Gun Bob really REALLY looked like he belonged in Capones operation didn't he?
@HebaruSan8 ай бұрын
Added "save Robert Howard" to my time machine TODO list.
@Panicagq28 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Drforrester318 ай бұрын
Such an incredible soundtrack. The original release version was part of my gym soundtrack for years, pumping iron to the Anvil of Crom/Riders of Doom makes you feel like an ancient warrior king
@YOUCANTDOTHATONTELEVISION8 ай бұрын
One of my favorite and most epic film soundtracks out there
@alienlife77547 ай бұрын
Really? LMAO. How lame.
@YOUCANTDOTHATONTELEVISION7 ай бұрын
@@alienlife7754 don't be a dick
@justaguy23657 ай бұрын
Yep. It's in my workout Playlist too
@1701EarlGrey8 ай бұрын
That was an interesting backstory! Fell sorry for Howard - both him and Lovecraft didn't had happy lives; they are had short and rather tragic existence even though their work live on...
@phillipnoetzel76378 ай бұрын
When Conan was done conquering he relaxed and hosted a late night talk show.
@seaningram32858 ай бұрын
"....but that is another story"
@MAGICMONKEY528 ай бұрын
🤣😂@@seaningram3285
@vee-bee-a8 ай бұрын
Heyyyooooo~!
@Didymus20X68 ай бұрын
So Oliver Stoned wanted to turn Conan into YOR: HUNTER FROM THE FUTURE.
@KairuHakubi8 ай бұрын
Boy I never thought to make that connection before, Conan is absolutely a hero for those who are sick and tired of responsibility and just want to go be a barbarian and pillage.
@christopherwall21216 ай бұрын
He's kinda like Superman in that regard. No coincidence both heroes were born out of the Great Depression.
@adambusenlehner36898 ай бұрын
Basil Poledouris' complete score is available on a 3CD set from the Intrada soundtrack label.
@hollyingraham39808 ай бұрын
One of my favorite OST. Thanks for the lead on this set!
@adambusenlehner36898 ай бұрын
My pleasure. Intrada also released his score for Destroyer just last year after it was in legal limbo for a decade. I love owning both soundtracks. @@hollyingraham3980
@MrSaywutnow8 ай бұрын
The image of Charles Bronson as Conan making his prayer to Crom is one that will not be leaving my mind anytime soon.
@christopherwall21218 ай бұрын
"And if you do not listen, then dis ain't ovah!"
@torchmark668 ай бұрын
Conan: "Hey Crom. Can I have a cookie?" Crom: "No dice"
@blockmasterscott8 ай бұрын
All I knew about Conan before Arnie's film was the Marvel comics in the 70s. After I saw Arnie's Conan film, I read in a magazine that it was based off of some dude named Robert E. Howard in the 30s, and I was flabbergasted, I thought it was just the comics. So I saw a good deal at a bookstore for the Howard books, and the Sprague De Camp novels, and read them all, and wow! I was hooked. People may not agree with me, but I've always felt that De Camp's books were a nice addition to Howard.
@digitaljanus8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Sprague de Camp's omission from the record here felt conspicuous. I know many fans don't appreciate his editions to Howard's work, and I might even agree on some counts. But would Conan have the prominence he does without de Camp's tenure on the material? I'm not sure.
@rafmeinster8 ай бұрын
@@digitaljanus I think it may have something to do with that Howard biography he wrote in the '80s. A lot of fans thought it was slanderous.
@aelfredrex83548 ай бұрын
De Camp was a damned good author in his own right. He was a great choice to finish up on Howard's unfinished works.
@ThisHandleIsDefinatelyTaken8 ай бұрын
I love how REH's Conan is in fact an dilettante intellectual with a grasp on cerebral subjects like cartography, linguistics and applied metaphysics.
@jmedia11028 ай бұрын
I was the only one in the movie theatre, since no one of my friends was interested, but didn't regret seeing it - as a german Conan comic book fan back then.
@HeavyTopspin8 ай бұрын
So interesting to find out about Stone's proposal to set it in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, fighting mutants... considering that a Conan ripoff in just such a setting actually predated this movie, in the "Thundarr the Barbarian" saturday morning cartoon.
@digitaljanus8 ай бұрын
Itself a creation of comics writer Steve Gerber, who brought on colleagues like Roy Thomas and Gerry Conway to contribute scripts.
@myriadmediamusings8 ай бұрын
Nice, this is gonna be a fun series of vids to watch. Know little to nothing of Conan beyond the two films.
@hariman77278 ай бұрын
The 80s Conan cartoon was fun too. Obviously sanitized to be for kids, but in an entertaining way.
@digitaljanus8 ай бұрын
I sometimes feel like it's a Christopher Reeves as Superman situation. Schwarzenegger made such an unforgettable impact as the character in live-action, no one really gets a chance to try another take on Conan. Even though Jason Momoa makes a decent attempt in that otherwise forgettable 2011 film.
@reidmason25515 ай бұрын
@@digitaljanusThe Superman fandom is beyond tribalistic and close-minded. While Reeve is wrongfully deified in some circles, much of the fandom rallied behind Tom Welling and *Smallville* as their golden calf of choice, to the point of being viciously hateful and threatening to anyone else who dared play the role. (Brandon Routh in particular got the worst of it, and Henry Cavill never once was given the benefit of the doubt.) It took Welling's long-standing refusal to ever wear the Supersuit holding true for the CW "Crisis" crossover for the fandom to finally get it thru their heads that they'd been backing the wrong horse for nearly 20 years. I think a fundamental difference between Superman and Conan is that Superman had already been represented in mass media for decades well before Reeve's tenure. The Arnold films were the very first time Conan had ever been depicted in movies or TV. So unlike Superman, there actually was a justification for Arnold being the baseline for Conan: his version was the character's mass media debut. There wasn't any preexisting frame of reference otherwise. And it also doesn't help that the later attempts at adapting Conan missed the mark in terms of the character and the tone and feel of his world, so they were already lousy on their own terms regardless of who was playing him.
@torchmark668 ай бұрын
Would love to see a limited series based on the original books...By a studio that respects the source material.
@Don-ol8ze8 ай бұрын
Poledouris' score was incredible. It really does rise to the level of an opera.
@IlluminovaNibiru8 ай бұрын
In the days of high adventure, Before the Oceans drank Atlantis, Thulsa Doom lived for a 1,000 years b4 he met my Master King Conan. The Phoenix & the sword.
@SilentSilvia8 ай бұрын
Such a cool channel to find. Amazing video and jumping straight into the next one.
@Kink_Shaman8 ай бұрын
I started watching your videos about a year ago and now I feel nostalgia by the sound of your voice.
@williamdavis36098 ай бұрын
Robert e Howard’s work is amazing, even it was written in the twenties it’s is still imaginative, entertaining and far better than most of the crap written today.
@silk73068 ай бұрын
Thank you for this most informative video!
@keithtorgersen96648 ай бұрын
Robert Howard’s life ended very tragically after he wrote the Conan stories. He had a tumultuous relationship with a woman, and then his mother died. After that, he took his own life.
@reidmason25515 ай бұрын
There's a movie about that period of Howard's life, *The Whole Wide World.* Vincent D'Onifrio plays Howard.
@jodieg6318Ай бұрын
I have to say I'm very excited to find this playlist; Conan the Cimmierian/Barbarian, and more widely Weird Tales and the Swords and Sorcery genre are absolutely my trash and I adore them. Though trash I don't think is the right word, I mean it's not high brow by any measure and one of things I love about the Hyborian Age is that It was was never meant to be taken seriously all the time; it can be delved into more if one wishes but it's always meant to be a good time. With that kind of mindset kept Conan and other like genre stories from falling into nihilism or 'grim and gritty realism' (which actually isn't all that realistic) that kept me from liking series like Game of Thrones or The Witcher short stories. Give me high flying, fun adventures with Robert E. Howard or some Absurdist Humanism with Sir Terry Pratchett and we can see what happens to a Barbarian Hero in his old age.
@scottfitzpatrick19398 ай бұрын
I had the fortune of living through the cable TV era where the movie channels played this all the time. What an incredible movie and the soundtrack is one of the best. Man Arnold was the meteoric biggest star in the world after this movie.
@jesuscampos81368 ай бұрын
Conan was my comic book hero💪💥🍻
@kenis778 ай бұрын
Conan the Barbarian is a masterpiece. Spaghetti western style fantasy. Thanks for the video.
@user-ge5vf5md7r8 ай бұрын
Conan what is best in life!? A unique lore of a believable world The Terminator And a great Music score of the 80's Correct!
@impudentdomain8 ай бұрын
To this very day whenever I do any fantasy computer gaming I put on the scores for both Conan and Conan the Destroyer. Basil Polydouris was a genius.
@egads36968 ай бұрын
The barbarian is one of my all time faves but i recently tried to rewatch the destroyer after decades and couldnt get through it.
@seanfrith60328 ай бұрын
This is some good stuff. You know what you're talking about and you make it interesting enough. I would recommend you make sure you know how to pronounce the names of everybody involved. Even seemingly simple ones like Bob Fosse. It would add much to your credibility. Good stuff, though. Keep up the good work.
@drivethruabortion2808 ай бұрын
Technically, the first Marvel movie.
@andersonic8 ай бұрын
This is well timed. A new edition of JRR Tolkien's letters just came out, and a new letter from 1957 has Tolkien praising the storyboards and concept art from a 20 year old Ron Cobb. "Cobb's taste and style seems, on the whole, to fit The Lord Of The Rings better than I should have thought possible." No surprise he'd shine as production designer for another mythic, lost pre-history that feels lived in 20+ years later. I wish we could see those storyboards. The 1982 movie still stands apart for how it depicts and conveys its sword-and-sorcery setting.
@scottschauer70888 ай бұрын
From the title I thought this was going to be the shooting locations video. The background. Right? That would be a great video
@snoo3338 ай бұрын
I remember watching this movie in the theaters. not sure if i was ten or eleven. i just loved it. i couldn't enough of it. They used to make manga type comic books. Usually sold at shopping centers. I had my comic book adaptation of the movie close to me at all times. lol. I tricked my sisters to watch the movie. they had not idea about Conan. i could see them looking at me every time there was sex or nudity. lol . thanks for the memories.
@Wesleym1348 ай бұрын
4:55 - Is that a picture of Depression Era Seattle? I can tell because of the Smith Tower in the background.
@Tigerbrown448 ай бұрын
Hooverville
@franciscovega20428 ай бұрын
Oliver Stone's Conan sounds killer.
@reidmason25515 ай бұрын
It's basically Thundarr the Barbarian in all but name.
@oneandy26 ай бұрын
30 years old? Wow. I did not know that.
@bradwolf078 ай бұрын
I knew there was more to Conan than the Arnold movies, but I didn't know it had such a rich history
@EMbrokehp8 ай бұрын
Nice
@danielramsey61418 ай бұрын
9:35 God what a Small World we live in :) It fascinates me how many Artists are connected through little Meet ups and gatherings. Sadly, I’ve never gotten a chance to ever be at this level.
@princeofcupspoc90738 ай бұрын
Fans loves a well defined "canon" that answers all their questions. The thing that fans hate most, is meta. Here's the meta. Howard wrote a Kull story, but couldn't sell it. He reworked it, changing the name of the mc from Kull to Conan, and it sold. This Conan is a king. Intelligent, cultured. The problem is that the mag was on board for a barbarian more than another Kull story. So now Howard has to have some way to explain the King Conan story, and says that after all his barbarianing around, he eventually becomes a king. A cultured, politically savvy barbarian, er, former barbarian. It was always a problem, getting to that king part. It makes a much better life story for him to die fighting overwhelming odds. Oh, and most importantly, the Milius Conan story is NOT NOT NOT Conan. That "barbarian" comes directly from a Franzetta painting, and NOT from the source material. Conan wears CHAINMAIL for most of his stories. It's the preferred armor for his world. He speaks MANY languages, being a wandering sword for hire. He would not have any kind of German accent, since his "land" sits on current Scotland/North Sea, NOT cold wastes. His people were NOT metal workers. Any other things? Oh yeah, THERE IS NO MAGIC, in the high fantasy sense. If anything, the Conan world leads to the world of Lovecraft, since they swapped ideas and used each other's in their own stories. Conan is science fiction/horror. It was NEVER high fantasy, at least not until a bunch of writers came along and pretty much trashed the Howard "Canon."
@adamantiiispencespence40128 ай бұрын
I would disagree as someone whose been reading a huge collection of Howard's works including many Conan stories it may have elements of Sci Fi and definitely horror but there's plenty of magic in stories like a Witch Shall Be Born and The People of The Black Circle. It may not be high fantasy but it and it may not meet some arbitrary purist definition of it but it's fantasy take the outright Sci Fi elements and it's actually more in line with traditional folklore and legend based fantasy like basically anything Arthurian.
@Hadoken.7 ай бұрын
Oh Conan is fantasy alright. But it’s not high fantasy, it’s Sword and Sorcery, the polar opposite. And that’s the cool thing, the axis of modern fantasy has Tolkien on one pole with the high fantasy, idealized UK Tory Teagarden bullshit, and the other has Howard with Conan and his world. Everything else is in between. And most people write closer to Tolkien for one reason… it’s way easier.
@mjolnirfan8 ай бұрын
This makes me hope he will start reviewing Conan books and comics
@Shadowman47108 ай бұрын
King King (1976) was a box office success? Well, then as now, there's no accounting for taste.
@paulgardner50798 ай бұрын
The author of the books was from Cross Plains, a small town wher eI have family
@goodfellabadguy2578 ай бұрын
One of the conditions was that he couldn't give it away, including luxurious gifts. That's why he was hiring everyone. But Spike stuck with him when the money was gone. Spike was like "I still got plenty of money. Let's take a trip."
@hariman77278 ай бұрын
Heh. I can't hear "Conan" without thinking of the cartoon version, and of Cohen, from Discworld. Also, He-Man has so many differences in story that it's clearly "inspired by", being its own thing. And not even in the Disney "wink wink it's actually plagiarism" way of, well, Disney, but in a "yeah we need something new, but in the same vein" sense. These background videos are also very interesting too, with lots of info not usually said in lesser documentaries.
@reidmason25515 ай бұрын
He-Man's only real connection to Conan is the quasi-barbarian costume design. As a character in and of himself, he's a mix of Superman and King Arthur (his magic sword clearly being a superhero version of Excalibur).
@hariman77275 ай бұрын
@@reidmason2551 *Thumbs up.* I wouldn't be surprised if Conan were part of the inspiration for He-Man. But like I said, they're both distinctly their own characters.
@PickleRick658 ай бұрын
02:22, where is the "kymeria"??? Never heard of it and can't find it on a map of the Hyborean Age. (anyone)
@Panicagq28 ай бұрын
I think he meant Cimmeria...
@Langkowski8 ай бұрын
Tolkien work as big budget movies, and Conan would work better as a TV-show
@Melvinshermen8 ай бұрын
The intro never grown on me.
@Nasafalkas18 ай бұрын
I've recently been reading Tolkien and Lovecraft. I guess with Howard, they must be the inspiration for basically every RPG game, plus Warhammer.
@boobah56438 ай бұрын
Jack Vance comes to mind, most famous for inspiring _D&D's_ magic system where casting the spell burns it from your mind, so you need to learn it again. One of the neat things about the first edition _Dungeon Master's Guide_ is that Gygax has an appendix listing the stories that inspired the game.
@elliotvernon79718 ай бұрын
Other key authors for fantasy RPGs were Fritz Leiber, who wrote the Lankhmar stories and Poul Anderson, who wrote the Broken Sword and Three Hearts and Three Lions - as well as Michael Moorcock’s Elric books. Although Tolkien was an influence, Gary Gygax didn’t like his high fantasy vision very much - so early D&D is more based on Robert E Howard, Jack Vance, Fritz Leiber and Anderson.
@rikk3198 ай бұрын
@@boobah5643 I used Gygax's list to discover a world of fiction beyond Tolkien. All those other authors had significant influences into D&D, and Gygax did a great job of introducing a wide array of material--Moorcock's intelligent swords and multiversal planes, Anderson's paladins, Tolkien's rangers and dragons, Vance's magic system, Lieber's thieves. But really, it does feel like the general sense of adventure and play is Conan and sword & sorcery, not high fantasy.
@st.anselmsfire35478 ай бұрын
What is best in life?
@613harbinger3168 ай бұрын
The open steppe. Fleet horse. Falcons at your wrist. The wind in your hair.
@lexington4768 ай бұрын
What is the difference between this Channel and your red channel?
@sfdebris8 ай бұрын
The Blue is for the more serious work, the Red for the less serious. While there is naturally overlap, I find this channel tends to draw in people who prefer more straight work, and the Red those that include more silliness mixed in.
@lexington4768 ай бұрын
@@sfdebriswell, i watch both 🙂.
@DwarfDaddy8 ай бұрын
I really want to get Oliver Stone’s vision made.
@MrHathaway13378 ай бұрын
They killed Conan off at Marvel.
@user-gp5kh5tu4k8 ай бұрын
Red Nails was the best story....
@L17018 ай бұрын
…I actually think a post-apocalyptic Conan could be cool.
@pheebsbee12808 ай бұрын
Ima Slaine fan myself
@AngelAteem8 ай бұрын
15:50 It’s actually pronounced “Foss-ee”
@S1nwar8 ай бұрын
Man from Hjelmdall
@andrewklang8098 ай бұрын
...Meets the Hjelmdall Men
@luvslogistics17258 ай бұрын
For some reason the hero has to be a vitally strong barbarian or warrior and never a weak-chinned wizard
@hershtheonly47998 ай бұрын
Am I the only one expecting a history on the character?
@fernandoorozco37515 ай бұрын
If you read Howard's original stories that this movie was based on, there's a lot of casual racism and xenophobia in there. Pretty common for authors of pulp fiction at this time, including HP Lovecraft who was an overt racist. It's not surprising that some of this made it into the movie. That being said I don't think that this movie was particularly egregious. It's just kind of the way that the source material was written.