I'm convinced spiders are quantum particles, as their exact position can never be fully predicted at a given time and how they have a chance of passing through otherwise solid barriers.

Ants are also heavily attracted by electrical boxes of any kind.

Lol . Here in New Zealand we have a grasshopper from hell called a wētā - the name means "Lord of all ugly things" . I removed the cap of a telecom connection post to find a dozen of the things ready to attack. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C4%93t%C4%81#/media/File:Male_tree_weta-orig.jpg

And its always a scary looking spider with red fangs.

​​@@andrewn7365 Schrodinger's spider😂😂😂 both dead and alive, until you go and check😂

I actually made some led garden lights from pickle jars. They were totally not sealed or rated for safety, but I ran them at 12 volts, so I was not terribly concerned.

It looks exactly like an european jam jar.

Cable glands? Is that a medical condition suffered by electricians?

@@PartarioAbdullah-Levi yes.

@@PartarioAbdullah-Levi Strain Relief, for us non European types.

For the Wago boxes, there's also 2-component goop to fill them up, which will make them perfectly water tight. But you'll also have to cut off the cables if you ever need to replace the box.

Just pulled apart some LED festoon party lights, designed for outdoor use, bulbs partially filled with water - of course. An old friend told me "You can never keep the water out, just drill a hole in the bottom so it can drain", that advice has always worked for me.

Dome security cameras are a great example of this.

All external junction boxes I have added to my house and garden have tiny drain holes for this very reason - and cable entry glands along bottom edges only.

We use an IP rated vent. Solves the problem.

Who says we don't use metric? If anything, we might be better at it - every one of our inches has a nice round 1000 thou in it, and if you ask me, that's a lot nicer figure to reckon with than 25.4...

In this globally connected world, I'm seeing that many Americans are becoming more familiar with the metric system.

Funny thing happened last week. We had to make new 6" (DN150) pipe for the sprinkler system, and when the new pipe was connected to the old flange fitting, the old part was like 5mm narrower. Turns out, there's an "American standard" for the 6 inch, aaand "European standard" which is just a little bit wider. As an European, please adopt metric system. 😂

If you have any skill, a wire nut and some bubblegum are 10x better than a wago

@@Landrew0 Americans have for years been learning the metric system, but then when they leave school they don't find it being used (in, say, construction and the like). It is very frustrating for those who like the system.

Wire it wrong enough and it'll become one, until something goes pop at least

@@JackieBrightwrong or when the Wago fails and arcs.

@@JackieBright it might burn the oxygen off before failing and might stay lit for a good while, until the whole thing melts. :p

Surplus runway lights

Well, I have an outside light unit that is a cctv junction box :D

My first thought as well - if they didn't come with a similar housing already from the store...

Nice! Thanks!

Or install a gore vent (or similar membrane vents from other makers)

I have a stake in a WISP using the same equipment that they call air fibre and those metal sealed and gasketed boxes at tower sites they have super fine copper mesh vents at each end and we get wasps spiders and even had a snake get in one ! use mastic and silicone on those glans . I took a new one and filled it with water latched it shut titled it evey and overnite to see if it had any leak none and it got a spider in it months later !

umm...still not particularly fond of Wagos unless it's low-power systems like consumer speaker connections. That's pretty much what they are. Not enough surface contact for high loads like major appliances large inductive loads. Strangely, in lab tests, Wagos were the first to go before the wire nuts.

@@WJCTechyman *Wrong.* WAGOs have been thoroughly tested (many times) under high loads and performed just as well as wire nuts. They've also been heavily used for decades in practical applications both in other countries and in industrial applications here in the US, with no observed issues. In all the lab tests I've ever seen, *both* WAGOs and wire nuts held out just fine even well above their load ratings. In some cases, the wire nuts held out a small bit longer, but both of them were way beyond any load they were supposed (or allowed) to be used for (and realistically they wouldn't fail until probably long after your house had already burned down anyway), so that's all pretty irrelevant, IMHO. It's like comparing which cookware lasts longer when you put it in a blast furnace (which obviously has absolutely nothing to do with how it performs under real conditions for its intended purpose).

@@WJCTechyman You should do some proper research before spreading misinformation like that. If you don't like them because they are too foreign that's fine, but don't pretend they aren't up to the task when everyone else manages to use them without ever running into problems.

@@WJCTechyman And that's why Europe, which has almost exclusively used WAGOs for the last 40 years has completely burned down from electrical fires. Edit/PS: Here, even our circuit breakers have cage-clamp connectors...

​@@WJCTechyman you obviously don't know the video, where they put 100+ amps through a Wago and halfway towards 200A when the plastic insulation failed the metal still gripped tighly to the copper. these terminals are rated 20A by the way.

Its O-rings are greased and under high contact pressure, but I do think water will potentially squeeze its way in somewhere.

I assume they have tested it thoroughly in a climate chamber.

I agree. I have had Water enter a box thou the cables, between the wires/isolation

Pop in a balloon containing a zinc-air battery with a high value resistor across its terminals to produce hydrogen gas. It will create a positive pressure inside the jar. As long as the balloon doesn't perish and the connector doesn't arc you'll be just fine! Don't worry about it!

​@@mrfrenzy. I assume he means it can act like a "pump" and suck on the wiring insulation, drawing air and moisture from elsewhere. But I have no idea how waterproof boxes are supposed to work.

Well, if it was King Charles, he's of German ancestry. Also the wire nut was a Canadian invention like the telephone, basketball, incandescent light and in part, Walt Disney. I'll let you look those up on your own time.

Apparently, americans are the ones that notice wago trying to sell equipment to DIY electricians (house flippers) and have the right idea about house flippers (hating them)

@@jankington216 Ironically, where Wago come from, Germany, house flipping is unheard of due to a healthy 6% property transfer tax.

But you know - Merkins are working with utterly shoddy electrical products... The quality Wago is too much for them.... Who would ever want to test something????

...when connecting 2 wires requires a football size casing

@@meex88hiphop Only in Europe!

No electrician has ever complained about an enclosure being too large! There will always be more to fit than was planned for initially.

​@meex88hiphop Have the North American crowd not yet considered future proofing?

@@SammyInnit I have discovered that future proofing is mostly a joke. Things always turn out using different tech and different codes.

We also had those in Australia.

I've seen quite a few similar designed enclosures both from brass/glass and in pure brass.

100%

What model is that?

In Canada we actually use steel grounded Iberville boxes and screw/lug terminals or Marettes in the "mains-level" connections. Less chance of it melting and spreading fire, especially when working with gas-fired appliances. The low voltage stuff runs through the wall normally and if properly configured, the thermostat really doesn't need a box. The only time I could see a box needed for thermostat wire is in a commercial/industrial setting with metal conduit and those same Iberville boxes. Outdoors, we use PVC boxes and conduit, both rigid and flexible to run high-voltage (240 V) connections to the AC condenser unit via a disconnect box.

​@@MyTubeSVp m-box or s-box

@@MyTubeSVp 2 sizes, L32 with 32 connectors and L60 with 60 connectors.

@@mikehunt8968 thanks!

Interesting idea to use one as an improvised yard light.

Should also work well for a light sensor.

I have indeed heard and seen these been used for light sensors in series with outdoor lighting.

Or you could just put a lamp in it! If it's outdoor safe it would make quite a decorative light fitting.

I live in the desert southwest and even here I don't aim for waterproof, I aim for water resistant plus being able to keep the electrics/electronics up and away from the bottom of an enclosure, plus drainage out of that enclosure for what water may get inside.

To make a connection water proof. Wrap one layer of electrical tape then use the rubber spicing tape . Pell off the backing tape and stretch it out. Two or more layers. Then a couple of electrical tape. This will done right will stay dry for years.

Same here - these Wago's look perfect for extending speaker cables etc.

Clive only mentioned it in passing when reading the labels, but the big thing about the boxes (for UK installations at least) is that they are rated “maintenance free” which means that you don’t need to open them again for inspections. That saves many a sparky a lot of grief when the snooty interior designers mucked things up… I lost a lot of skin to them, and swore at them (the boxes….) but in the long run they are veeery useful…

What a waste, much better to apply it to some bread

Magic Gel made by Ray Tech is excellent for underground connections.

They are IP68 so pretty much good for any conditions. I bet most of us would have more trouble making the glands meet that spec.

What? My great-grandma uses that phrase all the time!

You're Canadian? If so, wire nuts are actually called Marettes. A very simple Canadian invention like basketball, incandescent light, the electric motor propelled wheelchair and the telephone, also, Walt Disney was created in part by a Canadian.

@@WJCTechyman Matey, are you selling wire nuts by any chance?

The first time I came across Wago terminals was when I worked with Hussmann.

Often another pole .. or polette.

How is your mom?

@@Dingleberry1856 6 feet under, so probably not hot enough to do what your lame comment ensued, she'd probably slop down a pole if she could try. How's your little sister, have you or your dad shown her the poles yet??

But they are UL approved. "In addition to the European approvals, WAGO's installation connectors are also certified for the North American market, specifically from Underwriters Laboratories (UL) for the US and the Canadian Standards Association (CSA) for Canada. In the past, these two certification agencies jointly introduced the “cULus” mark."

Oh stoppit at once ...

The grease used in plumbing is often silicone grease. So very inert and with a high dielectric strength. That's what's used here.

What are we using or hoping to use a meshtastic node for? I have been looking for a good reason to buy some, lol.

@@jong2359 to be honest, in the UK it has become pretty popular but that popularity means that as a messaging system it's horribly flaky in many areas. So it often is more for seeing how far propagation via the mesh can get. It's definitely not a viable off grid solution. It's just a bit of fun.

@@neilbchilton absolutely appreciate the honesty - that is exactly how I sold it to my wife, but I was still trying to sell myself, lol.

Good point. Wire nuts are deceptively easy to misuse.

@@catsupchutney Not so if you are trained well to use them. Unfortunately, I think this is the case in Europe. People got lazy and so they make a spring mechanism to hold the wire instead. I see these used in home audio to connect antennae or speakers but I don't think I would want one in my electrical system. It's the Nintendo Entertainment System ZIF connector in the form of a connector meant to connect high power devices together and spring tension is defeated the moment any kind of large load goes across it and creates heat and in these with the little to no surface area contact is present on the wires. With Marettes (wire nuts) all of the wires are pre-twisted together with a large surface area contact present and no moving parts are used. I would say that Wagos are a waste because if one is in a point that I want to replace a connection or make it larger, the Wago is a single use device and since it's already held in a shape for a very long time it will have a memory to it making it a no-guaranteee that it will perform again with the right amount of force on the wire. I would like to say to the Europeans, UK electricians and those who are pro-wago in North America: Look up Occam's Razor and go with the Marette. They are relatively inexpensive and really easy to use.

I've used them for decades. I ALWAYS do a pull test on each wire in the connection. When twisted on carefully, they can really hold a lot of pull force.

@@WJCTechyman Several of the things you said are not correct, or suggest you have misunderstood something. First, wire nuts are still very easy to misuse, *even if you've been trained well to use them.* I've seen lots of experienced and trained electricians still get it wrong sometimes. That is why most of the training to use them properly is all about how to be extra careful every single time you use one to make sure you don't get it wrong in some way or other, and anyone who does care about such things needs to spend a significant amount of extra time double-checking every one they do to make sure it's a good connection (which is just not necessary with WAGOs, in general). WAGOs are technically a form of ZIF connector, but the internal design is completely different from low-voltage connectors like on the NES. That's just a completely bogus comparison that suggests you have no idea how either connector is actually designed internally. (By that same logic, you could claim that circuit breakers and power outlets use the same sort of connections as a headphone jack or a serial port, so obviously they should never be used for any high power applications either.) WAGOs have been thoroughly tested at high current loads and shown to perform comparably to wire nuts in all such situations, even well over their rated loads. In many tests, *the wire itself actually got hotter than the WAGO did, and failed first.* So your speculations about failing under high loads are just made-up BS. The WAGO connectors also already have *more contact surface area than the cross-section of the wire itself does,* so anything more beyond that is electrically pointless anyway. *WAGO lever-nuts are not single-use devices in any way.* They can be reused many times over, even years down the line. They do not develop a "memory", as you suggest (again, that appears to be just made up BS that shows you don't even know how they work internally, or how metals actually behave in reality). They are actually far better for reusing because they don't mangle the ends of the wires, so you can even disconnect and reconnect them to the wires without having to spend time straightening or snipping them off, and then re-twisting, potentially having them not re-twist well and not getting good contact, etc. You also seem to be blissfully unaware that wire nuts _also_ use a spring design internally, and if anything their springs are far more likely to become distorted over time (because they are made out of thinner wire), so if you're really worried about that sort of thing happening, you should actually be more worried about the wire nuts than WAGOs. Finally, Occam's Razor actually does not apply to any of this in any way. I suspect you've actually misunderstood what Occam's Razor is, or how it's used, because it applies primarily to attempting to determine the cause or explanation for some observed effect, and has nothing to do with design or application questions such as these. If you want an aphorism that actually does potentially apply, I would suggest perhaps Murphy's Law might be a better choice. And according to that principle, WAGOs are clearly the better choice, because there are just so many more easy ways for things to go wrong with wire nuts than with WAGOs, even when people supposedly do know what they're doing with them.

​@foogod4237 good response. I still find it 'odd' that even though WAGO manufacture a sell connectors applying to God knows how many BS, UL, IEEE standards random people on YT say 'ill never use them they are unsafe '.... like a radom person on YT knows better than all those standards agencies? If they have an issue with WAGOs (or the like) then ultimately it means they have 0 faith in the standards agencies, and if that's the case, they have a waaaaaaaay bigger issue than simply 'not liking wagos'.... It's the same with people complaining about EV-ultra cable from Doncaster cables 'mixing data cables and mains cables' and 'all that EM interference' when it's kinda obvious the cable manufacturer knows all this and yet, the cable still exists, and.... works..... as if 10/100 ethernet to an external EV charger is pretty immune to single phase 230v power running nearby....

Thanks. Much appreciated.

I actually gave up trying to understand his various 'attempts' to environmentally protect his various outdoor projects. He always seemed to never use whatever seals properly, or use any provided silicone grease, or drill any pressure relief/drain holes in the usually marked positions, and often had cables entering whatever enclosures from odd, non-intuitive directions, that were certain to invite water ingress. I've got loads of electronic stuff mounted outdoors, including some repurposed indoor poe wifi access points, in various boxes, and they've survived years of exposure to UK Lancashire weather; so I eventually concluded he was doing stuff wrong deliberately, to 'encourage engagement, views, and youtube revenue'

They do have a selection of bases for different configurations of inline connectors which are quite neat, though ("Wago Inline Mounting Carrier")

There's probably some bizzare electrical separation thing regarding that. The same reason they don't do their version of the multi-circuit clones.

And at some point, it makes sense to use DIN rail terminal blocks instead. I’ve become a big fan of those, too.

I'm proud to be a Canadian because at least I know we invented them and when used correctly, wire nuts (some of us Canucks call them Marettes) surpass Wagos before failing.