I always interpreted Elizabeth’s ability to open tears based on the fact that two parts of her technically exist in two timelines: Elizabeth herself and her pinky that got severed and left in Booker’s timeline.

This was my first Bioshock game. I bought it with no expectations, only knowing the past couple had received spectacular reviews. I still remember when the world first opened up to the outside world of Columbia and being blown away by how beautiful it was for its time. The story mind fucked me so hard as a senior or junior in high school that I was mentally affected for two days. I'm always surprised to see that it wasn't received as well as I would have expected back then but I guess I was just so enthralled in the story and world that what many consider to be average gameplay didn't deter me at all- I just so deeply yearned for answers.

Something that maybe I misinterpreted about Burial at Sea Part 2 that I remember really disliking was establishing the way the Big Daddies were imprinted on was through “kindness” or “love”, as I thought that completely undermined the point of the Big Daddy. The entire point of the Big Daddy and Little Sister was the horror of modern science constructing a bastardization of familial love in order to commodify it, manipulating the youth and dehumanizing the workers in the process. Having the “missing piece” of that scientific process be “actual kindness” completely undermines the inhumanity of the relationship that was core to the horror and message of their false relationship.

There is a plot-hole in this game (there are multiple, but I'm only going to talk about 1). In the timeline where the Vox Populi got the weapons and started their revolution, the Comstock from that timeline moves the Elizabeth from that timeline from Monument Island to Comstock House. This resulted in Booker from that timeline having to join the Vox in order to reach her, but died in battle. However when the Booker and Elizabeth we follow enter the timeline, the Elizabeth from that timeline is nowhere to be found and no 1 acknowliges the fact that there are 2 Elizabeth alive in the same city.

Before even watching the video, I think infinite starts going down hill when time travel got implemented and Elizabeth got a change of clothes

Man im still angry about the weapon limit theyre so good but i usually take shotgun and rocket

Infinite is just a weird case. I remember in 2013 when everyone praised it and was blown away by the twist but slowly over time people soured on it.

Y'know; I'm not mathematecist, but I'm pretty sure getting shot 15,000 feet into the sky in a matter of seconds would be pretty rough on the body. Like, "powderizing your bones and causing all your arteries to burst" levels of rough. EDIT: Comstock isn't just a white supremacist, he's a straight up anglophile. During the time period this game is set in Irish and Italian immigrants were considered no better than black people; there are scenes in the game showing whites with Celtic accents doing the same menial work and living in the same squalid conditions as the blacks, and you end up shooting several white members of the Vox later in the game.

1:00:25 There's also the issue that Suchong should already be dead. According to a few of Alexander's audio diaries in 2, Suchong is dead before Delta is created, who we see walking around at the New Year's Eve party. Yet, Infinite's DLC takes place on the same eve, but Suchong is still alive. So it's both unnecessary and a complete plot hole.

Whats interesting is theat the coin flip is shown to have been done multiple times before with all the tally marks on heads, but when we pick the bird or the cage, its the first one. So our Booker is the first one to get Elizabeth out

I REALLY would’ve loved to explore more of this world, bioshock infinite is one of my favorite games with flaws and all, I just wish there was more...

The ending just feels like nothing to me. Our Booker is drowned, which despite not being the Prime Booker (as he is from after the decision, not before), kills every Booker that was about to become Comstock; the other versions of Elizabeth cease to exist; and every other version of Booker continues life as per normal - never faced with the choice of giving up their Anna to Comstock, because Comstock never exists. Okay...? The story just tries to be so clever, that I ended up not caring. I started to stop caring as soon as our Elizabeth said we'd leave her (at the time our) reality, and wouldn't come back. There's no consequence in a story like that, and neither Elizabeth or Booker seem to at all care about something that should be pretty impactful. If the world has no continuity, then the characters have to do all the work, and they do none. They don't care one bit, and they continue to not care each time. Booker goes to at least 5 realities (possibly 6 if Old Elizabeth equally can't open tears to specific realities), and doesn't blink an eye. This Booker is 1 of at least 123 (we don't know if the tally chalkboard was the first one), so either 123 Booker have been to that reality, but only 1 got to Elizabeth; the Twins have been to 123 realities to try this at least 123 times; or a combination of both (multiple realities and multiple versions of Booker). But with an infinite number of realities, there's a infinite number of the Twins, so all of this happens an infinite number of times... So, an infinite number of Booker were drowned to kill an infinite number of Comstock. Different versions of Booker that might be female; have an arm missing; be a different nationality; etc. This must be the case because there are infinite realities. All we see in the game is a leaf on a twig of a branch of a tree in an infinite forest. And it all becomes so abstract that I just don't care. There's nothing personal anymore. And that's my problem with the story: it's infinite. Sure, it's clever, and it probably mostly works, maybe, but to what end? Is Infinite a better game because of this chosen story? Not to me. 'Lives; lived; will live. Dies; died; will die' encapsulates the nihilism of the game, with it basically saying that none of it matters because all outcomes are true somewhere. If you're not looking on the individual level, which this game decides not to do as soon as Elizabeth leaves her world without a care, then it doesn't matter. All possible bad (and good) versions of Comstock from all possible versions of Booker are gone? Fine. I didn't meet, or play as, any of those versions. There's no personal consequence. They literally might as well have had Elizabeth push a button that just deletes all versions of Comstock, because it's just as emotionally detached.

I feel like the whole daisy fitzroy was doing a part of the twins plans ruins her charater. Daisy in my eyes was a leader so caught up with revenge she confuses it as a the only solution(something like that i guess). It fits similar how lamb was but now its just her doin her part. It does sucks that the buriel at sea dlc was not that good...... atleast we have clash in the coulds.

My biggest problem with Infinite is that it does not feel like a Bioshock game. It legitimately feels like an original IP that was reworked to be connected to the first two Bioshock games.

One thing that really confused me about this game was Songbird. I couldn’t tell if it was just the version of Songbird from the universe that Booker and Elizabeth were in at the time, or if it was the same Songbird throughout the entire game following them.

Despite its flaws, I still have a soft spot for this game

52:05 I'm pretty sure it was meant that if she goes BACK to that timeline now that she's been killed there, then she would lose her powers. Once she was done there, she essentially disregarded of what would happen to her body there and went back to Paris. The guilt of knowing she left Sally behind made her feel like she was as selfish as Comstock, so she returned regardless That's how I think of it anyway, and I think that's how it was explained in a video series explaining everything as well?

Bio Infinite's story feels like it was so close to being amazing but something just went wrong

I had thought while playing the second chapter of the DLC that the big reveal was that you were not Elizabeth, but actually Tenebaum with confused memories, explaining her change of heart in the first game. I was so disappointed that this did not come true.

The way I interpret Infinite's base game ending is that the Booker in the post-credit scene is either a different Booker who inherited all of our Booker's memories of his adventure in Columbia, hence his sudden panic and wanting to know whether Anna was in her crib or not, or he IS our Booker who was somehow given a mulligan from drowning and likewise remembers everything that happened up until then. As for Elizabeth, we know that every Elizabeth except Elizabeth-Prime is gone right after drowning Booker-Prime, and we also know what happens to Elizabeth-Prime after Burial At Sea Part 2, but we don't know if anyone's in the crib at all or not. I have no evidence, but I'd like to think there's one baby Anna in the crib who never has to grow up to *become* Elizabeth in there, so she gets a chance at a normal life. Unrelated, but as for why you fight a Bouncer as the final boss of Burial At Sea Part 1, the answer is because the events of BioShock 2 aren't canon to the events of Infinite. Going along with the whole multiverse thing, you can say that BioShock 1, 2, and the Fall of Rapture novel are one universe, while BioShock 1, Infinite, and its DLC are a separate universe. I as a fellow fan of BioShock 2 much prefer the former since it's just a better and more cohesive story.

Just found your channel a week ago and have binged most of your videos. Really enjoying the analysis on games I played years ago makes me nostalgic. Keep up the good work!

Combined the three videos into one. I may not be able to agree with some of our points with the dlc yet I respect them. I really loved Bioshock Infinite stroy and dlcs. It kept me on my feet and shocked me(this is coming from someonenwho played Bioshock 2 and Bioshock Infinite). I still miss Elizabeth. She was my favorite character as much as Subject Delta.

Finally someone who agrees with me. I have been so disappointed in how infinite turned out. I had no major complaints about the story other then how confusing it all started getting. The gameplay was by far my biggest issue.

Two problems that I have with Bioshock Infinite that drags it down for me. The overdone "I am no longer the naive girl, my suffering made me I am a hard bitten badass woman" and the way the narrative short changes the Vox. Being kind to other people and looking for the best in a bad situation are not signs of immaturity, in fact seeing the bright side of the world even when it disappoints you is an important skill for a well rounded healthy adult. Having Elizabeth become cynical is not a sign that she has become strong, she was already that. Having her "become a woman" because she killed someone and become a vengeful is horrible because it implies that you have to become cruel and experience horrible things to become an "Adult". Second the Vox are treated like a palate swap. People do not go from "wanting to be free of slavery" to Child killing mob at the drop of a hat. Daisy is a potentially interesting character turned into a cartoonish villain to keep the "both sides" narrative that the series is famous for.

Also when you have the choice to either draw your weapon or demand the ticket if you demand your ticket the guy behind the counter stabs your hand and you have a bandage around your hand for the rest of the game, it’s a nice touch

This story is so brilliant for the beats you mentioned but also We get to see a Disney princess face the cruel reality of our world and watch how it changes her Also she becomes exactly like her father As booker becomes a true father to her It’s her that wants to kill comstock booker only wants to protect her at that point and all his decisions are set in stone that he will always try to protect her even forsake himself and the world

I liked infinite but the DLCs killed that joy, too many plotholes ruined this game. It's like the writers just gave up and half-assed

Only problem I had with this game is the weapon limit and the travel between dimensions that started with getting guns for the Vox was all over the place and was confusing. And there wasn’t a vigor that could freeze enemies. The rest of the story and gameplay was spot on.

This was literally my favorite game I have ever played. The story, scenery, and character development were on another level. And then how everything ties together at the end blew me away. Thank you for taking us back and shedding light on a game some people probably didn't even know existed because it was so long ago. Awesome vid

The first escape from songbird is so perfect. The music, the action, the camera view. Just perfect.

I played infinite when it came out and replayed it for like the 4th time last year and finally played the dlc. The first one was super good, but the second not so much. Regardless I think infinite was a fantastic game with flaws of course but oh well. I'm really happy they did something different with it

Super well done well edited video Gingy keep up the good work! Looking forward to the next one!

I’m so glad you brought up the massive plot issue with Booker thinking Daisy from any timeline would honor the deal for weapons he made with the first one. It was when we started going dish that goal with him I just had a hard time taking the story of the game seriously. Even if Booker didn’t fully understand the world hopping, I felt like Elizabeth should have known enough to speak up and correct his misunderstanding of things, even if it was just for Booker to say something like “maybe we get lucky and this Daisy takes the same deal” And for that matter, we don’t even know that he has any reason to believe this Daisy has an airship to trade him for those weapons.

If there's one thing I like about episode 2 is that Elizabeth dies without her powers. After all, there are no gods and kings in rapture, only man.

The game had potential But when you are dealing with multiple universes and timelines, you're in trouble. Besides, the combat was not fun to me.

playing Infinite is like a fever dream, I thought I knew the story but I'm actually not, the story is really good even though feels like you still missing a lot

maybe its just my taste in things, but I was 100 times more interested in the politics, ethics and factions of columbia than I was in the ideas of alternative timelines and the character of Elizabeth. Politics and ethics was at the heart of the story of the first game and what made its story and characters so bloody good. Those came second to Elizabeth and multiverse stuff in infinite, which after many replays and a few years passing, the story doesnt do that much for me anymore. The art design and city world building is still outstanding, and the gameplay fun.

Columbia is so based and I'd live there in an instant.

A discussion of the novels would be really great. Very few people talk about it. Great vid as usual.

just found your channel and binging all your content, really love this type of analysis video. great work my guy🙏

I wonder if it would have been better to do dishonored style combat encounters, where they are not necessary and your method of handling them impacts the ending.

pleaseee do the novels, i’ve always thought of how i could get into them and how they would add to the world of bioshock as a whole amazing vids by the way, i loved experiencing everything with you in my memory haha.

Anyone else here thought that the DLC made things look nicely? I really liked that it connected with purpose. Still doesn't make much sense why Elizabeth would lose her powers but y'know... what's the opposite of plot armor? Being Sean Bean?

This game was so fascinating during the first play through but it just can’t hold up on multiple runs like the others can. All of the big twists and turns just get bogged down for me by some of the more stale combat in the trilogy. And then the dlc came out and just couldn’t even come close to Minerva’s den. I’ll never forget that first play through though that’s for sure

Anna's pinky severing into another is what causes her powers. She is now able to exist in 2 different worlds. And that's powerful enough

So a few clarifications/my own speculation on some of the plot holes you brought up in BaS: 1) One thing that's easy to get confused on is that there were actually two basically independent projects to make Big Daddies: Gil Alexander and Suchong. Gil Alexander worked for Fontaine and was the first to show success with the Alpha series but his BDs could only be bonded to a single specific sister. The Bouncers and Rosies were Suchong's though. He was sort of playing both sides of the fence, but I think publicly he worked for Ryan, hence why he wasn't exiled to the Department Store. The type of Big Daddy bond that Elizabeth helped create wasn't starting from scratch. Suchong had thrown the proverbial kitchen sink of chemical/biologic/psychologic bonding techniques at his Big Daddies but nothing was overcoming the Little Sister's fear of the Suchong's Big Daddies, and he couldn't make his Big Daddies care about the sisters. (He said as much in an audio log). It probably has to do with if you make these giants have zero self-preservation instincts so they'll fight to the death, it doesn't work to try and use self-preservation as a bond. They just don't care about dying without the sisters' Adam. When Elizabeth told the Sisters to give him Adam, it wasn't that it's a plot hole that the Big Daddies were supposedly retconned to not have any splicing when they were spliced to the gills originally; it's the Big Daddies were a) as part of the as yet unsuccessful attempts to bond them, Suchong had made BDs dependent on a special type of Adam they could only get from the LSs and b) even if that hadn't been the case, Adam has a healing effect and he was injured, so he literally needed Adam to get back on his feet. 2) This kitchen sink of bonding techniques meant that there was probably some success in bonding; it just wasn't consistent. In E2 I think we see a blueprint of the grappling drill used by the BD who killed Booker/Comstock and off-screen Elizabeth, and the reason it didn't appear in BS1 or 2 is because the mix of gases used to shoot the drill across a room was making the Big Daddies unstable, so the blueprints said to discontinue use. This unstable aggression probably interacted with the failed bonding techniques to push the BD to protect Sally like he was supposed to but also caused him to turn on Elizabeth despite her not manhandling Sally. 3) The explanation for how Elizabeth lost her powers is kinda fuzzy and doesn't quite pass the fridge test, but basically if you're in the omniscient/reality hopping state the Luteces and Elizabeth are in, the rules are apparently that if you as a quantum god are killed in a reality, you're fine but the price to return to that same reality where you died is to give up your quantum superpowers. It's likely that Elizabeth saw through all the doors the only way to turn Rapture Booker back into Comstock, to make him remember what he forgot, was to take him through the events of BaS E1 which would ultimately end in Elizabeth's death. No big, it's not like she wanted to return to that particular reality. But after she did what she did, the guilt of using Sally as bait and leaving her to her fate at the hands of the splicers ate at her so much she had to make it right, despite it costing her her powers and ending in her murder by Atlas.

Yes yes ! Please do a retrospective on all the games. I listen and watch retrospective on games while I try to relax. Afterwork

I understand everyones perspective on the story, but for me; Infinite is a game I've grown to dislike. At least when compared to 1 and 2, the story being the main culprit. Bioshock to me has always been about debating morality, ethics and political discourse. Infinite lacks this, therefore creating less substance to the story. Elizabeth and Booker are fine characters, but weak when compared to Andrew Ryan, Suchong and Tennenbaum at least from my POV. The multiple universes concept feels ham fisted to create a seemingly more complex story, and to help service the twist, rather than create substance for the story. It all feels a mess, especially when compared to the incredibly interesting story seen in the gameplay videos from 2011/2012. The game changed a lot and not arguably for the better, Infinite is a decent game. But 1 and 2 are FAR superior in literally every way, imo.

Fresh and beautiful content. Thank you. Will greatly enjoy this quick story review

A video about the whole series would be awesome!!

I think the DLC of tried to de cannon the second game.

I just realized the twins are- for better or for worse, Shrodingers Plot Device. They are everywhere and nowhere as long as they are unobserved, and they always appear just out of Booker's view. Quantum Physics are wierd.

Can’t believe we were getting “variants” and “canon events” years before Spiderverse.

Just watched the other two videos again yesterday. Love these!!

I'm replaying all of the bioshock games and have been watching your other videos. Great stuff!

The fact that killing the Booker you play as deletes all Elizabeths (which apparently it doesn't even end up doing that) it's moronic, considerong all the infinite timelines babble 5 minutes before that

Just have been recommended the first video a few days ago and I was very excited to see this one, since Infinite is my favorite in the series I didint think that much about the plot holes, even in burial at sea, I've seen lots of lots of videos just talking about ludonarrative dissonance and I was very happy to see someone talking about the game besides that, normally I watch this kinds of videos on the background while I do something, but this time I had to watch it focused The quality of the video is amazing and the points that you make about the game are valid, some parts where a pain in the ass, especially when I was playing on the 1999 mode, but after all of this, is still my favorite game not only in the series, but all time

I think it was a very great video overall, and I respect your views on the game and the DLC, and mostly agree on everything. For the DLCs, I am in the same state as you as I think it indermines the main story and plot of the main game, yet, I liked them, not for the gameplay though, it is not great in that regards, but because it is a very personal story for Elizabeth, the DLCs is about her alone, even the first one when we play booker. The story of Bioshock 1, 2 and 3 is personal but also link to the fate of the city by taking down the big chief of the city, by removing them of their power. To put it another way, personal closure for the main character is linked to the big chief fate and the fate of the city in the main games. It is not the case in the DLCs. It is just a personal story. Well, one might say that Elizabeth has an important part of the fall of rapture since she iniates a sequence of events that will lead to its fall. It is true, but she will not see it to the end, she died before it happens. Also for us, the player, we already know what is going to happen to the city of Rapture, so the point of the DLCs is elsewhere, and she said it in the begining of episode 2 "Why ? Why did I choose to come here ?" (something like that). The DLCs are here to tell us who she has become after the event of Infinite, and while the first episode shows us her dark side, and may have tricked us to think that after the event of Infinite she has become violent, uncarrying (after all, she was ready to take the risk to make Sally burn, and all of this was for making Booker remember who he really is, and have a sort of revenge on him), the second episode gives us a more noble and bright side of her, she is not transform completely into that cynical person that she seems to have become, she still has positive human values. I am not a fan of the choices regarding the little sisters in Bioshock 1 while a lot of people loved it, I think it is not interesting, it does not change the gameplay drastically, and it does not lead to different narratives through the game, it just changes the ending, the final cutscene (and some minors dialogues in Tenenbaum's lair), and there is only one ending that I love and that make sens to me, the one when Jack saves the little sister, the other one is just completely off and was, if I recall correctly, something the publisher asked for. Now, the ending of the DLC saves that for me, it is not just an episode that tell us that Elizabeth was ready to endure the torture for Sally and so revealing that she cares for her, someone she doesn't know but have empathy for, but also more important than that, she has faith in Jack, also someone she doesn't know, but Jack is not anybody to us, it is us, the player, so in a way, she has faith in us, she has faith that we will make the best choices for Sally and the other little sisters. This is how I interpret the very last part of the DLC and It makes the ending strong and the whole episodes so worth it. For the main plot of Infinite regarding the multiverse. I don't like any interpretations that implies that Infinite has choosen the Many Worlds interpretation, that is when a choice appears, the universe split and that each split contains the different possible choices. There is nothing at any point of the main game (the DLC kinda messes with this) that implies Many World interpretation. The main game states that something that can be call a multiverse exist, and this multiverse is best described by the sentence "Constants and Variables"...and that's it. For example: when Booker first met with Elizabeth in the library, she is holding a book call "The principles of Quantum Mechanics" , the event takes place in 1912, Quantum Mechanic was not already formalised. On top of that, the book was written by Rosalind Lutece, so for me, the game tries to make clear that this is not the Quantum Mechanics of our world as we know it but something somewhat similar, yet, not completely. I think people want to take anything regarding multiverse through the scope of Many world interpretation with branching diagrams and everything. While most of the time it is appropriate to do so, I think it is not with this game. This is why I don't like when people try to explain the ending by using diagrams. At the end, Elizabeth was able to create a state where all Bookers and all Comstocks are one and the same, and therefore killing that one person here, means killing all of them and the universe will adapt to it. that's it, that is all we need to understand, Elizabeth has the ability to reset everything and she does it. Trying to go with diagrams will lead to an unsatisfying ending (at least to me). Regarding the post ending sequence, it is maybe a way to tell us that she failed. But it may also be a way to tell us that she succeeded. It may also be another Booker that didn't go to the Baptism at all. One could argue at that point that I am using the "Constants and Variables" sentence as a way out to not think further and to not acknowledge the problem of the coherence regarding the sequences of the plot and so forth. I agree that by not trying to go further that "Constants and Variables", one could feel the meaning of the ending a bit shallow, it is nonetheless a trade off that I accept to take because it leads toward one of the most beautiful and poetic ending that I can think of (at least to me). That "Constants and Variables" sentence does not just explain the universe of the game (narratively) but can encompass much more. It takes into account the different experiences that different players would have. Each players will go into the same scripted events, the same narrative beats, the same levels etc..., those are the Constants. Players will also have different playthroughs to one another, one might take this rifle, another will choose to upgrade that power at that time, another will have a low amount of bullets in that specific sequence while others will have much more, players will experience different feeling throughout the game etc..., those are the Variables. It also allows to put in light the very structure of a Bioshock game (there is always a lighthouse, always a city, always a man like said in the game), but there is more, it allows to put in light the very structure of many video games, (there is always a city, a place where the player explores ; there is always a lighthouse, a way to go to that city, the very beginning of a new adventure ; there is most of the time a man, an antagonist, a rival)(interpretation taken from Leadhead). But it doesn't stop there, Bioshock Infinite is a video game, it is program, a series of coded instructions that is made by using constants and variables, so the very fabric of the game is made of constants and variables and it is so feeting that in the narrative of the game, the law of physics of the game world is govern by constants and variables. But also, every game is a program and therefore is made out of constants and variables. So, how many worlds to explore, how many experiences ,how many games can be made ? Well, the game answers it, it is infinite. So, this is why I like that interpretation because when I look at the lighhouses at the end, I don't just see the world of Bioshock Infinite and its differents "versions" or the different Rapture, but I also see the many games that has been and will be, It is the promise of many world to explore, to be a part of, the different experiences that different players can have playing something similar, and all of this thinks to "Constants and Variables".

While I like the setting and character and parts of the story the part that lose me is the part where we go through the tears like I get what they trying to but i just get lost and uninterested also I feel like the story change a lot. Find your video on bioshock 2 great video by the way thought I was the alone one who liked

Found you a couple days ago and have already watched the Bioshock video 2-3 times. Hyped this just dropped

1:02:49 Rapture: “You couldn’t live with your own failure , where did that bring you? Back to me”

Yeah combine them into one big project! :D

The thing that’s always felt off that brakes the game is elizabeth final choice when she kills booker she doesn’t do enything cosmicly due to the fact she has now made the decision to drown booker will make it so now there’s more time lines where booker fights back, one where he servives the drowning, one where a meteor hits her in the head killing her e.g the game says about choice but makes it so you have none and even elizabeth who’s ment to have the power of choice has none or brakes what thay try to make choice in a multiverse isn’t real it has been done, hasn’t, will and won’t happen so killing booker and going to rapture on her part isn’t a choice it’s a composery action

I always thought Booker as he's shown in burial at sea part 2 to be Elizabeth's subconscious memory/personification of her powers

This is my favourite video ever I can’t lie I rewatch it everyday whilst getting ready to go out Perfect video length

You mentioned how the DLC was unessisary but it not only finishes some of the meta connections between the three BS games but gives some story answers to questions you had. For instance, you ask why Daisy wiped the blood in herself. We learn in the DLC that Daisey wasn't as off the rails as she seemed and never intended to kill the kid. She was being guided by the Luteces to help Elizabeth on the right path to get to the version of herself they needed. They knew for her to become the Elizabeth from that reality she needed to get a taste of blood herself and thus kill Daisy. This would be achieved by the justification that Daisy was going to kill the kid. the scene we are a fly is the wall, too, has them debriefing this to Daisy, who doesn't want to kill the kid. They yell her it isn't nessisary, just that Elizabeth be convinced she WILL. That's why Daisy seems to go completly bloodthirsty and out of character from nowhere. Just like with Elizabeth's bad crying earlier, she is acting to get Elizabeth to panic and murder her rashly in an attempt to save the kid. Elizabeth had no idea this was a farce or that the Luteces were pulling the strings. Daisy was just fulfilling THEIR orders to ensure the outcome they promised her would happen. She had to be a martyr to the unwitting real hero so she could later find the strength to do what was needed no matter what. Lose her innocence and find her resolve to end a life for the greater good. It's a real surprising narrative moment that both redeems Daisy's character and confirms what we already suspected..the Lutences were even more involved than they let on. They orchestrated everything but on a grander scale and across a lot more dimensions in deep detail. It's very eerie and causes Elizabeth to seem even more like Jack from the first game in that everything she does is guided by the pupetmastwrs, even when she seems the one with all the power.

I literally was just rewatching your previous bioshock videos and thought when will he release the infinite video :D

I loved this game. Played it on Xbox 360, expecting to see the underwater bioshock, but the sky city dynamic was certainly very interesting. Guns are kinda boring, you pretty much only have to use them because of lack of ammo in certain dungeon areas. Everything else looks really nice. The companion idea was really cool. Finally finished it in PC, and the ending was surprising and certainly fitting

Found you 2 weeks ago and I'm binge watching every video and I'm schocked you have no patreon. Unreal I wanna support your channel so badly.

I can't say I really agree with all your points, as many of them seem to whittle down to subjective suspension of disbelief. However I do think the video is well put together and as an analysis of perspective and viewpoint I think you did a great job! I'm looking forward to watching more of your videos now.

Bro the ending of the game really gave that "wtf just happened feeling"

I’m fine with the infinite’s ending giving the series more possibilities of alternate plots, but that dlc is so unnecessary and corny for making anna be the most vital and important person in the whole series to the point of retconning a good established story to bioshock 1 n 2’s storytelling.

i was LITERALLY just watching your bioshock videos and just finished bioshock 2 video really love your videos. found you about 4 days ago. will you make a video on outlast? i would really love to hear youtalk about this game

Yes please, if could combine series into 1 video it would be amazing. Great videos btw and appreciate the work done to put together videos like this

YOOO I WAS WAITING FOR THIS! Thank you Gingy, whether criticism or praise you're fair, so I'm excited to watch this with infinite being my favorite

The ending is beyond trash. Elizabeth saying there's an infinite amount of worlds, implies just that. There's an infinite amount Comstocks, an infinite amount Bookers gone bad, making him even trying to kill Constock utterly pointless.

I vote yes on the directors cut of this series

Yea i truly hated Vox Populi finkton thing now tht u mentioned it i hated playing that like its filler in an extremely Suspenseful story ~

I love that years later people are still making 1 hour long videos on this game.

I replayed the bioshock collection last week in playstation, i gotta say i love the nostalgia.

The dlc for me killed it so badly, especially when Elizabeth proclaim that hes the last booker left, like how???????

I feel a separate video exploring things you didn't cover would be a bit better for me. Plus I think some people would be intimidated by the length of the video with all 3 combined.

Please do add them into 1 video. I listen to these while working

Just wanna say; yes Ryan was already born by 1912. He and his father escaped from Russia during the Russian Revolution when the Bolsheviks came to power which was only a couple years later. Ryan was a child (about 7) and saw his aunt and uncle being killed by Bolshevik soldiers; stemming a hatred for Socialist and Communist ideals for the rest of his life.

I always took the after credit scene as that Booker changed his ways and got to live with his daughter

Would definitely wanna see some bioshock lore videos if that’s something tht you’d be up for!!

I feel like it would have been a good idea to focus the dlcs more on Columbia rather than rapture because while I love bioshock Infinite I didn't really connect with Columbia as much as I did with rapture and i feel like spending more time in Columbia could have fixed that.

Was waiting on this one, never played any of the games in the series, but I've watched walkthroughs of all three. This was my favorite, mainly due to the plot twist and Elizabeth. Wish we got a next installment in the series, but I'm pretty sure the studio is more or less done.

this could be a really great animated series. if fallout is getting a show I hope this one does too

Infinite ending is amazed to see for the first time, but when I tried to play it again to see if I missed any clues along the way, I found the process to reach the ending was so boring, I gave up half way. This is the worst of the Bioshock series. I feel sorry the series end at a bad note, and we probably will never see another sequel.

I left a comment on the BioShock 2 video saying I was going through these games for the first time. I just got done completing BioShock Infinite, and the ending only left me confused, especially for a couple of things. I got even more confused when a buddy of mine said to make parallels with BioShock 1, and that Fink was Atlus, which means Fink is also Fontaine, Comstock is Andrew Ryan, and Elizabeth is Jack. That only made everything even more confusing as I had no idea what he meant and what that meant. I'm really hoping this video helps me understand better. Edit: I understand a lot better what happened at the end of BioShock Infinite, but Burial at Sea episode 2 is… odd. Not because I thought it was bad, but because it throws Elizabeth into the story of Rapture's downfall, all because of the reason of feeling guilty about using Sally just to kill Comstock. I didn't think about it, but I really do enjoy that Infinite is its own story. Have both games be set in the same universe, but I'm not a huge fan of the reason for a lot of the technology existing in both games, is because Elizabeth decided to open a tear just to get revenge against Comstock. Atlus only knows the "Would you kindly?" Phrase to use against Jack, because Elizabeth. A buddy of mine likes this because it ties all of the games together into a neat bow, but that's honestly not necessary. I don't know, in the end I think it was just okay, but if I ever return back to play BioShock 1, a lot of the information I learn about kinda loses it's meaning because Elizabeth was the reason for a lot of it happening. Atlus' plan only happens the way that it does, not because he took the initiative to make things happen and overthrow Andrew Ryan, but because he saw a window of opportunity in Elizabeth, because Ghost Booker told her what to do. BioShock is still ultimately, in my opinion, the best and is my favorite.

thank you gigny your acctually the person who got me to go and get the bioshock games loved all of them

I have interpret the end of Infinite is the following, after Elizabeth and her alternate selves killed Booker, ending the branching timeline mess and the entire chaos that happened in Infinite got reset but with some major changes. Rosalind Lutece managed to stabilized the tears that it can no longer sterilize someone after frequent uses, but also jump to any point on their own timeline meaning Comstock Booker had to put up with doesn't need to kidnap Booker's baby daughter since he can sire his own child, while the Booker we play is back in his own timeline no longer a gambler and alcoholic and has not only baby Anna peacefully sleeping in her crib but also his wife alive and well.

The youtube algorithm actually did something good for once. Randomly recommended the bioshock videos to me yesterday, and all of a sudden I see you uploaded this video here today. Thank you youtube I guess? Great videos by the way.

This game is definitely an underrated gem that apparently everyone hates because it's cool to feel pretentious thinking you're better than the game

I figured out Elizabeth was Anna within about 15 mins of starting the game so I didn't really get sucked into the plot and the gameplay was nothing special. I preferred Rapture, as an environment, and so over all, Infinite just didn't really do much for me.

to note the story refrences alot about the 2nd great awakening of US history where many of these religous subcultures were birthed out of

I would love to see all three videos combined into One

Bioshock infinite just doesn’t feel like a bioschok game

as i have never played infinite: thanks for dumping the lore into my brain, sir. you earned a new sub :)