War... has changed...

@@stephenvargas5806 Thank you for your Service

They didn't want the Soviets to get their eyes on the equipment, for some reason they don't care about the Chinese though.

@@Neeverseen it's because we bought the equipment from the chinese

Okay boomer

Did you enjoy being a loader ?

@@shane6035 It was a pretty cool experience compared to what I was used to. A tank crew and an infantry squad are night and day.

@@DZ-cv1ko so is it true that tanks need lower physical standards than infantry because they rarely dismount the vehicle?

@@DZ-cv1ko I've always wondered since i wanna be a tank crewmate is it hard?

@@mverick5444 I was wondering the same thing since I also heard they sometimes make them do dismounted patrols sometimes.

Gaaf!

Stab Ein.Ik vuur. Herhaal vuur.

@@dutchrookie7556 kleine

It’s the same cannon.

@@docsnider8926 depends on the newer Leo 2a6 it uses a modified variant of the l/44 gun that is longer at 55 calibres long to allow the use of higher pressure ammunition but basically the same

Fury lines.

You what?

That's just your mom passing by

@Christopher De Tar, My condolences to the Future of Marine tankers.

@Christopher De Tar, I know but, you know, the Marines retired the tanks, for a bigger unit of riflemen with anti tanks weaponry. Sorry for the confusion.

I got to drive one a very short distance at a wash rack in Germany.

@@daddyrabbit835 did you feel... powerful?

@@TyrDrum Yes!

@@daddyrabbit835 is it hard to drive a tank?

@@syafiqmalek8313 depends on the tank, biggest difference from cars is having no steering wheel, you steer by levers or something like what planes use, another thing is that the manual transmission isn't always the same as cars. I would assume that it's only as difficult as learning a manual transmission.

Thanks for watching! Perhaps you have some footage with the Leopard 2 and would not mind to share it?

@@Military_Archive Yeah that would be awesome but 1995 -2003 Cameras was huge back then VHS & VHS-C and also not allowed without special permission

@@51KTM51Hurricane Yeah, I understand. Anyway, thanks for letting me know. Cheers!

I be jtz im mai ersh gad fertig wurde als Leo Fahrer ;) Ish en geili zit gsi

@@cedrichochreuter2250 ja isch eh hammer maschine. d'RS ha ich aber no ufem 68/88 gmacht. bi de im WK umgschuled worde uf de Leo. Isch würkli eh mega ziit gsi!! würd grad wieder unterschriebe.. leider bin ich jetzt aber scho fasch senior😁

@Brandon Hutsler Before your time boy

@Brandon Hutsler I coulda said "Scouts Out"

@Brandon Hutsler Got out in 92 went in 82 19d scout, everyone comes back wounded one way or the other

It's Hooah not Hoowa lol.

@@KevinWilliams19723 However, rather say "Scouts Out" anyways. Been too many years and spelled too many ways to care. Actually back then it was HuH for us anyhow. Those things never stay the same just like everything else.

I was gonna tell you you’re acting immature, but I can’t argue with you. You’re not wrong

Technically the truth

@@bryandodson4101 ok boomer

“No no, he’s got a point.”

@@wanderingpalace Nah chill your tits sunshine

how long did it take to load the Sheridan missile?

You must have been either in the 82,d , Cav or at Ft Irwin .

Trained on the M60A3 while in the reserves , in the early 80's . The turret sure want that spacious.

Did the Patton have a mg for the loader

Since the tank is small it gonna stink a lot

There's a little bit but it's still a little tight. The gopro makes it look more spacious.

For real. I was so jealous of the Abrams guys and their lack of Bradley Bites. For twice the price of our tubs, you got about 5x the combat power to the field, in a rig that was designed by engineers who actually gave a shit. I even had the fancy A3 when I locked my TC's hatch for the last time and retired, still hated that iron bitch. Buuuuut.....at least you could nap in the back.

@@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing I no shit see dudes dozing off in the back on motorpool mondays back there it's so spacious back there. I do like that you have a jet of hot ass air so in the winter you can stand back there and keep warm.

Hahaha I crewed an M2A3 almost my entire career driver gunner and finally BC i was on one for so many years up wound up training dismount squad leaders how to BC at Gunnary LMAO if you did that in a bradley turret youd be so close you could tell weather or not yer BC shaved that morning!!!!

Definitely tight!

Sounds just like my PS4!

thats gas turbine engine sound tho

Does it really though?

@@NomadSoul76 absolutely, so many KZfaqrs ruin their videos with ridiculous beatboxes or loud annoying music that they think is clever.

@@SlavJerry no shit that the fucking jet engine makes a loud noise

Yeah that roof looked alot thinner than I thought it be

It’s a m1 the m1a2sepv3 has 45 mm roof

@@ebk_storm9795 always awesome to get a reply and deadly information like that on here boss. Thanks

Got inside one of these when I was at Graf with 3ID. Way more room than my brad lol

That whine is from the engine driven hudralic pump

sounds like home

You would probably get used to it, might be a bit like just a car engine on steroids.

After a few shots you probably don’t hear it much anymore.

I find it extremely soothing, I could fall asleep to the sound of a turbine and hydraulic pumps every night.

yep thats man is the definition of a skilled loader

Lol, It never leaves, I was counting in my head as well, dude can load, no doubt about it. I can still smell it…… 19K10

Congrats man

You should go 25B, and learn some IT skills instead. When you get out you'll have a much better civilian skill set. I went armor and switched to signal.

Good luck!

@@russkydeutsch So you became a 31 M Wire Installer?

Congrats dude...Stay safe, learn all you can, take advantage of every opportunity and don't take it for granted. I look back on my time in the service and wish I could do it again. I wish you nothing bug success in your endeavors.

USA 🇺🇲 🇺🇲 💪 💪

Gotchu g👍🏽

I imagine it’s loud as hell in there.

imagine someone farts inside tank

That constant noise produced by the turbine is to drive you crazy after a few hours inside that claustrophobic cabin.

His loading time was pretty good, but pulling a round from rack 13 while rack 14 is still occupied and you're in the middle of a table 12 run is dumb. He was pretty good at the thing he's needed most for though - he called out his round and his load time was great. At least he wasn't holding the next round in his lap like some guys did.

You mentioned Graf in your comments. I have many fond memories of that place as a Huey Repairman Door Gunner in an Assault Helicopter company back in 73-76. My fondest is after a hard days work, sitting around outside your 10 man tent drinking Graf "flippies". the Beer with a hinged top you strike sideways with your fingers to open it.

@@MatthewPettyST1300 It was great. I was the beer officer for my battalion one year and had to go to Nuremberg to coordinate the beer through a German civilian who worked for the army. Each soldier got two tickets for two beers on non-firing nights. We didnt have the flippies you speak of, but did enjoy the local breweries like Kitzmann and a few others.

I thought you would want the magazine door shut unless reloading. I was surprised to see it open as much as it was.

@@B61Mod12 I hear ya ... I was in Graf when 1AD had the first M1A1 gunnery fire due to hot loading - strictly verboten from that day on. This video was pretty spliced up presumably to show more action. Seemed like he was checking the ready rack while the TC was getting an intel dump or frago or sitrep on the radio. Pretty sure he only opened it when the gun wasn't armed but the video was spliced up so not 100% on that. Hot seat loaders sometimes have to refamiliarize themselves with tanks they arent normally assigned to which I attribute to his multiple rechecks. But you are right -- that door is there for a good reason!

I also wonder how do they access the ammo behind the commander's position? Especially since it looks like the commanders position blocks the way. It looks like only the half of the tank ammo bustle is accessible behind the loaders position.

The primer cap has small openings which identify the specific round. 4=heat and 2=Sabot.

@@user-uy1rg8td1v yep, you move the rounds from the semi-ready rack (behind TC) to the Ready Rack (Loader side), 1 or 2 rounds at a time

@@user-uy1rg8td1v Came here to see how that works. I guess it's a pain in the ass to run out of ammo form the primary rack while in combat.

There is literally no room to move inside a T72. You're in a sitting position constantly except for the commander who can turn out. The tank itself is tiny, it's a bit over 2 metres tall, and as you've said the interior is claustrophobic as hell, most notoriously the driver seat (which is ironically the most comfortable one in western tanks). Just squeezing inside one is difficult, the hatches are very narrow, worse than the T55 for example which is all around more spacious. You have to sort of wiggle your way in like an eel, in an L shape. The Abrams/Leo are limousines compared to the T72 platform.

The reason why these tanks are tight is to reduce the height of the tank when facing other ones.

Wait until you get into a merkava mk 4! It is even more spacious than the m1

You need comfort of Winn?

Excuse me for my mistake. “Comfort or Winn” I want say.

If I was medically able to serve I'd love to choose to be in a tank Crew.

Question for you. What is the lever or stick shift looking thing the tank commander has his left hand on??

I was in 8th ID out of Baumholder and rode in with 2nd Armor for Desert Storm. Originally a dino tanker, we transitioned in 89 to the M1A1.

@@225degrees It is the TC Override. The Tank Commander can use it to slew the turret back and forth and do pretty much anything the gunner can do, but with less precision. He will find the targets and call out to the gunner and loader that he sees, say, a tank and an APC, and to take the tank first, and then the type of ammo so the loader knows what to load. The gunner will center in on the target then and lock on target, telling the TC that the target is identified. The loader meanwhile loads the round and yells "Up" as soon as he removes the safety on the gun and gets the heck out of the way. Then the gunner will yell, "On the way!" when he fires the main gun.

@kickthesky What was the annoying whirring motor noise in the 1st part of the video?

U liked the patrons?

Man but what a privilege being inside a Patton. Mad respect.

M60A2 1981.

@@patfranks785 you were in a starship?? What was that like and what position did you serve

@@Force05289 Not sure if joking. I was trained on gunning, loading and driving.

The new ones have hard kill active protection system

@@roenero7242 just remember this,,the Germans had superior tanks and superior trained men, but still got their booty whipped by the russians who had a decent tank (but out dated by 1943), with peasant class soldiers. Ask yourself Why?

@@AngriestAmerican .... Definitely not as black and white as you put it. The German army was mostly horse-drawn and tanks were new and unreliable. Good ol' Abrams has been tested in just about every environment for the last 40 years. Not to mention they had little to no air superiority once it got later in the war. You control the air, you control the battlefield. There's the reason why the US Navy and Airforce combined outnumber the next 5 air forces next.

@@yostupidmama1 At the start of WW2 the german tanks were out classed by CharB and matilda tanks. THe CHarB was simply unpentrable with the guns on the Panzer III and low velocity 75 on the panzer IV. But they managed a BIG victory over 7 Million french and allied troops. WHy is this? The tank is not to be a combat vehicle, it is a break through vehicle. YOu put 200 of them in the space if a football field and charge forward. Put your self as the defender, you would be scared shitless. Today they still use the tanks in combat teams, which leaves the tank vunerable to missle attacks etc. The tanks should charge foward at full speed, break through and go right for the rear of the defenders on each flanks and then the infantry should front assault, the old hammer and anvil tactic, look it up.

@@AngriestAmerican because the Germans lacked infrastructure in a foreign country with thousands of miles from production. Relied on foreign troops that surrendered and both gave up impossible to replace equipment and led to capture of same. Prioritized production of new units as opposed to spare parts leading to major down times. Gave leadership roles to idiots based on how well they kissed hitler's ass. Did horribly stupid humanitarian and diplomatic things that led to them getting their economy bombed to death. Need I continue? Before albert speer took over, the place was run like your local greasy spoon. Seriously. Panzers don't win wars without air cover. And infantrymen with rifles can't kill t34s. If you look at the statistics of what killed most soviet armor, air support. The stuka was the MVP of ww2.

ha?

How'd they get Abrams into Afghanistan?

@@chaosXP3RT C-141 starlifter, C-47's, and sometimes they contract out cargo flights to civilian 747's

@@casesully50 I could be wrong, but I don't believe those can carry the 70 ton Abrams. Furthermore, I've never seen footage of an Abrams in Afghanistan. Did we hand those to the Taliban too?

@@chaosXP3RT we had a lot of Abrams in Afghanistan. Whole battalions. And yes unfortunately I'm sure a few were left behind..... Edit- I just realized I said C-47 which is from WW2. I meant C-17 Globemasters lol

I'm not young anymore please Lord stick me in a tank

For example, the T72 has a crew of only 3 people and provides for automatic loading of shells. Everywhere there are + and -

Exactly, Soviet design, flesh is expendable. It's evident in ergonomics too, the Abrams is a limo compared to the T-72, an incredibly cramped tank.

Genius

Spent more time at Riley and camp funston in my military career.. and I would do it all over again.. 250 FSC

92f. 88m. Who all remembers beer runs to the shopette down by the hospital. I sure as hell do.. and the gut Truck bouncing around to all the gun ranges. Especially during weapons quals..good times . Lol

Oh heck yeah I was with Charlie Co, 2/34 AR for ODS

@@andrewschliewe6392 A Co. 4/37 armor up on the hill.

Were you involved in that tank battle against Sadams tanks?

is there a bathroom in the tank in case you needed to go or do you like just go on the side hoping enemies don't see you?

@@dr.snowman4883 I don’t think there is enough space for a bathroom in most tanks, I’m guessing they have to hold it in or wait until it is safe to leave the tank.

@@braydenw2786 there is no bathroom but there are ways to deal with it inside the tank, in some cases the tank needs to be sealed up for long periods of time to maintain positive pressure in the case of a war involving nuclear or chemical weapons.

17 in a minute!? Outstanding!

Hoenfels and Graf....dont forget Baumholder.....memories

@Brandon Hutsler Maneuver and mechanical malfunction aren't counted with combat damaged and destroyed. Neither are losses of the export version the US has sold.

@Brandon Hutsler Just hoping to help clarify the apparent discrepancies. :)

Were there U.S. casualties in any of the friendly fire incidences? Also what is the whining sound>

@@rustycaman Yes though I don't know how many. The whining sound is the turbine engine of the vehicle. The first time I heard one starting up I was shocked. It sounded like I was standing on an airfield listening to a jet reving up.

@@patraic5241 I believe the interior whining is pretty much only hydraulics.

Once you have fired a tank in a combat situation you are spoiled for life

rail gun tank also oohrah 2311 ammo tech from the 90's

The best part about the M60s was being able to vacuum load the 105. Most of the time we would ride with one in hand and one in the gun, ready to slam the next one home as soon as the gun fired.

I was a tank commander in the army at Fort Hood Texas and I remember all of that shells laying all over the floor of the M6OA1 tank. I can remember when they brought the M1A1 ABRUMS tank to fort hood and at the time the were suvileans operating the M1A1 tank and the army done a excersize between the M60A1 and the M1A1 and we out shot and out maneuvered the M1A1 tank because those people were not very experienced with M1A1 tank and thought it was cool.

@@terryturner361 Those were good days. I really enjoyed the M60A1. I changed my Motor Transportation MOS 3531 to the M60A1 MOS 1811 because it looked a lot more fun than driving trucks and jeeps. That had it's fun times but you had absolutely no protection from small arm's gun fire. The tank gave you that.

The 1 online video said they held 500 gal of ⛽ but had about 1mpg! 😛 That's thirsty. M1a2s were super heavy too.

@@DavidLLambertmobile that's really a guzzler !!

@@DavidLLambertmobile it uses a gas turbine engine they have stupid power for there size and weight thats why helicopters use them as well but the down side is they eat fuel like theres no tomorrow. the Honeywell AGT1500 used in the M1 puts out 1120 kW and 3750 Nm at 3000RPM the torque peak is around 5350 Nm at 1000 RPM.

I'm not sure about hydraulics but thats a turbine engine you hear making that wine sound...

@@starfighter1043 That whine you hear is 98% the turret hydraulic systems, while the pack adds a slight whine to it in the background. Trust me..I've been balls deep inside a Abrams sub turret while the tank is running. And spent many tens of thousands of hours with that sound behind my head as a driver.

Well i deff haven't been inside of one but heard 1 start up and how would the turret hydraulics sound the same as an engine start 🤔 it may be for all I know the hydraulics, i just know it makes that same whine when starting not juat wormin the turret

@@starfighter1043 It all accumulates into that whine. You can still very much hear the pack and turbine, but that whine is coming from the subfloor under the crew, which is a massive high pressure hydraulics system. It runs pretty much everything in the tank, from driver to turret and is hella loud. Notice how it gets quieter when the loader pops out the hatch, and the whine gets softer.

@@crazytrain03 same in leopard 2s that have a hydraulic turret, once stab is turned on that thing doesnt shut off.

Yeah, first time I ever saw M1s was when on guard duty at about 3 AM in a german forest. Looked down the forest lane and saw blackout lights from a leading jeep, couldn't tell if there were any other vehicles, and then it turned out a platoon of M1s was behind it. They made very, very little noise as there was no turning, engines were about idling, and the forest floor was pine needle covered. Compared to the big old diesels that were on the M60A3's we had it was like a ghost army.

Thats why they call em "whispering death"

Bet you don’t miss the hawk, cold as a mother in winter.

I've heard Russian stuff is total garbage compared to US and German

If it is about pure russian - totally agree Ancient soviet tanks have quite reliable autoloader. If well maintained and updated, soviet tank are not scrap at all.

​@@JV-un7qwsoviet doctrine put emphasis on "dont be penetrated" part of the onion, but they neglected the comfort of the crew and the chance of survival if the tank was actually hit. Nato doctrine on the contrary emphasised the working conditions and the importance of the human life over the survival of the vehicle.

Wt master race

@@davitohacks9289 enjoy paying hundreds to hate your life

@@LtRiot nah that’s only if you can’t stand grinding the game. I personally like both games but war thunder sits on top IMO

The gunners been knocked out WT stuck in my head

I think it's for if they have to dismount and engage on foot, or if they have to abandon the tank.

The crew each have their own body armor and infantry helmet for when they have to get out of the tank, in order to protect against sniper fire. It's also not uncommon for them to have their vests on while inside the tank too; gives them extra protection when they have to operate the loader and commander's machine guns (the commander's MG can be fired from inside the turret, but he still has to expose himself to reload it).

That rock weighs 18 pounds and is traveling 1 mile per second

6 seconds reload is quite mediocre for modern tanks, highly skilled loader can do it in just 4 seconds

@@Kalashnikov413 I guess he could've done it quicker if he had a shell already in his hands

@@razvy6949 the problem is that those shells were heavy, it was said that the weight is around 30kg or so

UP!

I was on the legacy M1. What you describe was mentioned but was not a recommended, nor practiced, procedure. I believe modernized practices made reloading effectively fast and safer for the crew.

@@OngoingFreedom you have to remember, i was in the 3/11 ACR and we would have been outnumbered 10 to 1 by the Soviets.

@@scottjohnson9912 3/2 ACR here, with I’m sure similar numbers. We performed border security for the BRD on the Czechoslovakian border and we called ourselves speed bumps. My comment stands.

@@OngoingFreedom We did it 2/34 AR (original M-1A0's). I had a round in the tube and a round in my lap. As soon as the gunner sent the round in the tube, I'd slam the round in my lap and get the ammo doors open while he was sending round #2.

To each his own . I.just thank God it never came to being on.the 2 way range .

Yeah, that loader has got it going on

How heavy are those shell

@@pollyannapositive9192 between 40 and 60 pounds, it depends on the specific type of round

@@pollyannapositive9192 the round i’m presuming is the m829a3-a4 apfsds round which weighs around 46 pounds or 20 kilos

@@russwatson8275 surprisingly, this is normal for all abrams tank crews.

you ass, you just made my day xD

It's not "old" if it was decades ahead of its time when new and then CONSTANTLY updated.

ratio

gotta love the patton.

“Private our tanks are too slow, we need a better engine” “I heard the Air Force had an engine surplus” *What?*

Yep. Semi-ready to ready rack is a chore.

Gloves are available at janitorial supply stores near you.

pretty sure you can’t get the exact kind that they use, as that’s illegal because stuff like that is government property and you can’t buy government property.

Nomex gloves sames as what pilots wear. Can't use regular gloves as it is a safety measure. Last thing you want is a static discharge loading the sabot and heat rounds.

Those are the standard issued gloves in the German army.. They actually suck