Do you think it would be possible for Valve to sell an upgrade motherboard with APU? Seems like they could upgrade the platform to ryzen 7000 without changing its layout.

You mentioned a 15 fps drop on spiderman but unfortunately didn't have og screen performance numbers for the games you showed. Where you seeing similar reductions in those other games too?

@@Chaosghoul you mean for Elden Ring and FF15? Elden Ring went from 43 to 30-32. FF15 went from 47 to 30.

@@middle_pickup it would be easier for a 3rd party company to sell a product like that. The problem is the cooling can't handle 7000 series.

@@TakiUdon Yes, exactly this, thank you so much!

I think it would come down to the game for me, for fast paced stuff I'd definitely prefer a lower res OLED but for playing slow paced games I'd prefer the higher res IPS

Valve has said it isn’t possible to drop an oled in the deck.

@@cringeusername9705 If I recall it was less about it being impossible and more about it not suiting their priorities with the steam deck. I think OLEDs typically draw more power, and obviously cost more. So given the cost and battery life implications, they stuck with a standard IPS

​@cringeusername9705 I don't remember them saying it was impossible, but I remember them saying that it wasn't as easy as people would think (eg. just dropping an OLED screen in).

That's why I'm waiting for the Steam Deck 2. I'm hoping that it launches with an OLED screen.

And slowly, Steam Decks will be its replacement for philosophical inquiry

So you build a new Steam Deck out of the replaced parts?

Come back to me when you build a new steam deck

Same as every gaming PC I’ve built.

​@@Queldonussame applies for skateboards LOL The only part I still have from my first skateboard are the trucks

You are so smart! thank you

That’s brilliant. I’m doing this.

This is what I plan to do

I was actually just thinking of doing this. I refuse to take out the original screen and scraping out the adhesive

This was also my idea but sadly you can't do that. Underneath the display are screws to get the metal main construction and battery out. Also there is another ribbon cable squished inbetween. Without removing the screen you can't fully switch shells.

For the perfect upscaling, you're talking about integer scaling

Did the same, play in 960x600 and enjoy long battery life 😄

I run all games at 1280X800 with all settings turned off or down. Less than 800p looks blurry to my eyes

Is there some reason to run the game at 540p/600p native instead of upscaling to 800p/1080p? I feel like most games that benefit from lower res have at least some taau implementation to take advantage of the higher res

​@@iurigrangdepends on the purpose for running at the lower resolution. You could do it simply for better battery life. Also you can do it for high end emulation to free up a little CPU power

When looking at the color accuracy reference charts, DeckHD is actually much more accurate across the board, whites included, what seemed off was because of the inaccurate stock SteamDeck display used used as "reference" for white balance for instance.

800p with better colors or OLED would be an almost immediate buy for me as well.

What “source” are you expecting. They are hacking valve’s bios. Like they can tell you where hex edits should go for a particular bios version. But then valve updates and they have to hunt for new locations again. Fingers crossed that steamos 3.5 is the solution, with it looking more hardware agnostic in many ways.

@@FoxbatStargazer Fair enough. Hadn't heard it explained/framed in those terms. Perhaps they should explain it the same if it's accurate to the situation. Prior they've said they 'haven't decided' or at best are 'aiming to' when the open source question was asked. Obviously the dream solution is for Valve to just open it up on their end but as Taki said in the video; not something you should flat out bank on.

Have you tried vibrantdeck for deck loader? It's definitely a big improvement

No, as it still doesn't reach 1200p nor does 1080p like the DeckHD does - and it doesn't force you to sell your existing LCD deck

@@merouby But does it need 1200p

or similar screen and better chipset but have every game bump by 20-30 fps

A new (more powerful) chipset would simply create more problems for the devs AND valve. Right now the deck is working well because they can focus on optimizing for a single HW configuration.

Yea the deck is perfect as is, everyone I've showed it to it blew there mind

@@JDabz96 I'll take a size reduction over everything else!

@@pin00ch on the bezels I agree

Exactly my thoughts. I don't want higher resolution, I want amazing contrast and colours. And yes a size increase would also be good. So yeah, you described the perfect screen I would want too.

totally agree, deck 2 must be like this or deck pro

:3

probably only older games I suspect.

@@ArtoriasNX ? Newer games on lowest 30fps will be possible, as shown in the video. But you can always lower the resolution and/or use fsr. 1200p is a good standpoint for 960x600 gaming since it won't be as blurry as on a 800p display.

It'll be a slightly worse performance since it's more efficient for the APU to draw on the internal screen

@@mechanicalmonk2020 yeah, but it won't be that different. Maybe a few percentages.

​​@@IcoKirovHow good does 600p upscaled to 1200 look? I've seen people mention that, I understand it's a clean upscale in terms of the math, but is there anything special that comes about because of that? Specifically, does 600p upscaled to 1200p look about as good as native 800p on the native screen? Does it look worse? Better? Otherwise this would lower the decks ability to run the most difficult to run games and still deliver decent performance and visuals.

I’ve been following the deckHD project in the hopes that they will give us that in the future.

I second this wholeheartedly, a 800p 120hz OLED panel with less bezel area and FREESYNC support would be a far better fit with the other bits of the hardware. I would love to do interstitial screen blanking on my emulated GBA games at 60hzx2.

Exactly. Valve designed the entire Steam Deck, obviously they would’ve chosen all the components carefully so upgrading the screen like this is just dumb as it messes up the equilibrium between all the components. Upgrading the joysticks to Hall Effect joysticks is a better mod than this screen replacement because it’s easier and it’ll help your joysticks last longer/have better accuracy. This screen mod is too difficult and you won’t notice any difference unless you have another Steam Deck right next to it to compare with. It’s a very silly mod.

Most people isn't all people. More accurate screen, sure. VRR, sure. OLED, eh.

Its also very clear after multiple explanations including one from one of the engineers that it isn't feasible or frankly possible. Why does everyone keep parroting the same thing?

@@SicSemperBeats because everyone would rather have an oled duh

Steam Deck XL :)

if you have any nicer screens in your house, the deck one pales in comparison. Even objectively, the color accuracy and color gamut is FAR below average. It’s the weakest point of the deck

Don't look at any other handheld screen and you should be fine. I personally cannot go back to it.

the stock screen is pretty bad compared to just about anything else out there in a mobile device but its not offensively bad, you can play games and be happy enough, thing is though if you look at any other display side by side the flaws become obvious, like the deck cant display deep reds at all, they always appear orange and next to a display that can show deep reds its quite an eye opener, just one example. i think everybody would prefer oled, I use a LG C1 oled for my pc and its awesome, HDR is second to none on an oled and dark room gaming is next level but the problem is on a portable device dark room gaming is only one scenario and Oleds lack brightness for outdoors, i have also witnessed first hand burn in on my pc display and i have only owned it just under 2 years and in that time ive taken massive measures to prevent it and still have spotted it with certain colors. Nah... id be quite happy with a standard LCD aslong as its a quality one on the next steam deck. What i do completely disagree on is sticking with 800p resolution, i have a deck and rog ally side by side and there are many examples i can point out where text is blurry or outright partially missing on the steam deck due to the resolution while on the ally its crystal clear and intact at 1080p... i have no issue at all with higher res screens on these portable machines, on newer games you have options to reduce it if framerate isn't there right but on indie titles which these things are perfect for the resolution and framerate is king, hades on the ally is a totally different game at 1080p 120hz flat compared to 800p 60hz on deck and the deck could absolutely push that game at over 800p and over 60 so its a shame. So for those reasons id say this deckHD upgrade is more than worth it for the resolution alone, that instantly makes the 5000 plus indie games available on steam over the last few years crisper and nicer to look at. I wont be getting one for my deck, but not because its not a good upgrade but because its not good enough so why bother when i have the ally, needed to be higher framerate, better contrast and brighter and then it would be excellent upgrade but i certainly think if people dont think the resolution is worth it im not with them and they should get out and try these higher res devices before assuming its not worth it.

I played the rog ally a little and you can see the difference with a better screen. For some reason a slightly glossy screen protector for the deck made it look slightly better but the screen is underwhelming. You just get used to it. Hopefully in 2037 when the deck 2 drops they actually put a decent screen this time around.

read the edit ^

I think VRR is for refresh rates that go beyond 60hz and for Freesync/Gsync. If you have a display that has more than 60hz, then the VRR option will become available for you via Wibdows display settings. At least, that's exactly how it is for me Steam Decc should only have 60hz. If you connect the Decc to a display that has more than 60hz, the VRR option should automatically become available. That's how it is with my laptop

​@@cqllel5186vrr works below 60hz

Hi, which one did you buy? 64GB, 256 GB, or the 512 GB version? I am looking to buy one, are they all same, if we replace the SSD to the 2TB we get the same performance or do they differ?

@@arunkn09 64GB, same performance for all decks regardless of the storage.

not possible, be reasonable

Quoting Taki from another comment: "Elden Ring went from 43 to 30-32. FF15 went from 47 to 30."

​@Chaosghoul that's a big dip in fps

@@patrickpaul7141 yes

Saturation is not the same as color accuracy. Plus, you will get color banding from the display trying to show levels of saturation it physically cannot

@@minty_xlaymans like this will never understand, no point in trying to explain it to them. They’re happy with the mediocrity that is the deck’s display.

I doesn't. It only gives you the ability to not care if you damage the stock screen when you remove it.

now i just imagine taki udon has 3 hands because of this comment

Which resident evil game is that at the beginning?

Not sure what you talking about the game runs fine for me and my deck is not modified at all. Might have a glitch or clip here and there but it’s no different from my pc

@@giorhivers1672 semantics perhaps, but my point was only that the resolution increase doesn't often affect the performance is all.

Maybe it is time for an oculist check-up Simply Google up sRGB and Adobe RGB, then compare them on 100% dci-p3 screen