A Medieval Mystery | The Princes in the Tower

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2 жыл бұрын

The disappearance of two young princes, Edward and Richard, in 1483 is one of the most intriguing mysteries of the medieval period. For years historians have pondered on the medieval mystery of the ‘Princes in the Tower’ and here, Kevin Hicks explores some of the theories and gives his own thoughts. This topic was voted for by our Patreon members.
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@anthonybirch6291
@anthonybirch6291 Жыл бұрын
I wish that I could have had this man as a teacher. You can tell he actually cares about the subject matter and takes a great interest in it. That sort of enthusiasm goes a long way when learning.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Cheers Anthony 👍🏻
@MsKK909
@MsKK909 Жыл бұрын
I was lucky to have had an excellent history who ignited my life long love of history and my great curiosity about the lives of those who have gone before us. This channel ticks so many of my “history boxes”.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
@@MsKK909 Good to hear it, thanks!!
@ltipst2962
@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын
Its funny isn't it that all these comments are the same. Something to be very proud of.
@windigee3848
@windigee3848 10 ай бұрын
It really is a blessing to have people like this and im glad i had teachers in history like him, and why i became a graduate in history
@cts3md
@cts3md Жыл бұрын
Thank you for always stressing that these were real people. I think it’s easy to lose sight of that when looking at events that we’re so far removed from, but you always preserve their dignity and remind us that their experiences were real.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!
@CoolHandKotaOG
@CoolHandKotaOG 9 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that Richard III loved his nephews and that before Henry VII took power he had his nephews moved to keep them safe from him. This theory says he had two other killed (still tragic I know) and buried under the stairs so that Henry VII wouldn’t go looking for his nephews who were living with their half brother for the rest of their days. It kinda combines these theories you go over. This mystery has always fascinated me though!
@robynwalker3742
@robynwalker3742 3 ай бұрын
thats exactly what the king r did and kept it secret for ther safety
@kartos.
@kartos. Ай бұрын
and then take the throne? this makes zero logical sense.
@tonymeads4693
@tonymeads4693 Жыл бұрын
As a lover of English history ever since my childhood I have to say what a WONDERFUL channel this is. My grateful thanks for keeping history alive.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
It's our pleasure Tom, thank you!
@seraphik
@seraphik 2 жыл бұрын
i love how every time he says he's non biased a new Richard III emblem shows up on his attire 😆 i love this channel so much.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
oooh, you noticed 😜
@seraphik
@seraphik 2 жыл бұрын
@@thehistorysquad i didn't at first but when that boar showed up on your head i was like oookay just what is going on here 😆
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
@@seraphik 😉 Gotta have some fun
@zaker721
@zaker721 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! Seeing the boars gave me life!
@donaldcarpenter5328
@donaldcarpenter5328 Жыл бұрын
you noticed that too?
@r.j.powers381
@r.j.powers381 11 ай бұрын
Ever since Alison Weir wrote about The Princes In The Tower I've been intrigued by this true tale. You have brought it to life with such clarity and compassion and your historians unbiased observations. Wonderful.
@Moose.-vy5ye
@Moose.-vy5ye 6 ай бұрын
Alison Weir is unreliable.
@jamesault7832
@jamesault7832 9 ай бұрын
Mr. Hicks, In my opinion you are the best storyteller on the internet. You never cease to amaze me with your knowledge. and personal experiences. In fact, your films are so interesting I find myself watching them several times and they never get boring. Please keep up the good work.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 9 ай бұрын
Thanks very much James, I'll do my best 👍🏻
@tonywoollcombe1799
@tonywoollcombe1799 2 жыл бұрын
Some historians think that the bones discovered under the stairs in the Tower were too big for the ages of the Princes’ in the Tower!
@rhys1264
@rhys1264 Жыл бұрын
I really wish you could have been my history teacher -- the way you speak and tell stories is captivating and amazing.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Rhys 👍🏻
@saralynfosnight5139
@saralynfosnight5139 Жыл бұрын
I recently heard a version of this story wherein Edward IV was not previously married but previously engaged to a person of royal class and broke the engagement to marry Elizabeth Woodville. Of course, in those days, being betrothed meant about as much as marriage and breaking an engagement this way was considered scandalous. At the time of the boys' deaths they had been declared illegimate because of the problem with Edward IV's marriage, so what would Richard III's motivation have been?
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 2 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating story. It's refreshing--in this age of spoonfeeding opinions--to have the presenter leave it to the viewer to determine the 'truth' behind all the allegations. It stirs curiosity and motivates one to dig even farther into the tale. Bravo, sir!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you! Glad you enjoyed it, it's fascinating isn't it.
@kenreeve6549
@kenreeve6549 Жыл бұрын
So very enjoyable thank you , No stupid loud music or silly gimmicks as is so often imposed on viewers these days, 10/10 Subscribed Merci
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
De rein 👍🏻. Thanks for watching and your sub.
@MZeki-gw2xg
@MZeki-gw2xg 2 жыл бұрын
Very intriguing, I wonder if they did any forensics on the two skeletons found at the bottom of the stairs. As always these videos are very well presented🙏👍
@williammoore9794
@williammoore9794 2 жыл бұрын
I believe they need permission from the Royal Family to exhume them from the royal vault at Windsor Castle (where the bodies were moved after they were found in the 17th century). I suspect such permission is unlikely...
@MZeki-gw2xg
@MZeki-gw2xg 2 жыл бұрын
@@williammoore9794 yes I see, then there’s also that body in the sanctuary chapel…such enduring mysteries should be solved
@williammoore9794
@williammoore9794 2 жыл бұрын
@@MZeki-gw2xg I agree! 😃
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Good question! Half of me would love to see the results of DNA, but the other half feels we should leave the dead alone. 👍🏻
@Bonkers4Hex
@Bonkers4Hex 2 жыл бұрын
I heard recently that the Queen had said them boys had gone through enough pain already without forensics etc, allow them to rest and she denied it or something along them lines anyway.
@Aramis419
@Aramis419 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliantly done! Who would've known that a foam brick and some toothpicks would make such excellent teaching tools! If I were any of those guys, I'd just petition, "Yeah, alright. You take the throne. It's all yours. Can I just have a small manor somewhere in the Midlands, then? Just call me Herzog von Nicht." "But that sounds German!" "German hasn't been invented yet! Just go with it!"
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
😜 love it!
@Mikael.formermilitary
@Mikael.formermilitary Жыл бұрын
Your knowledge and expertise rival the best BBC history programs.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Oh wow, thank you so much!!
@jawnhansen235
@jawnhansen235 2 жыл бұрын
Being American a lot of the things you talk about we never learned and I’ve never even heard of. This sounds like one of those historical things kids learn in school. Great video like always.
@Bonkers4Hex
@Bonkers4Hex 2 жыл бұрын
I think our kids in Britain are more likely to learn about lgbtq, they/them nouns and pronouns or Muhammed and the Quran than this stuff. I'm 35 and recall learning some stuff on the Tudors as a child, it's sad but I'm probably one of the last generations that did.
@jawnhansen235
@jawnhansen235 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bonkers4Hex not much different in America nowadays! Just in the decade since I’ve been in school the curriculum is completely different. World history was never really a big deal in American schools anyways though.
@Dovietail
@Dovietail Жыл бұрын
Don't say that Jawn! What, was your history teacher the town drunk? I grew up in a little town in East Texas, and we learned all this good stuff.
@jawnhansen235
@jawnhansen235 Жыл бұрын
@@Dovietail I went to a good school in Pennsylvania but I don’t think we had more than one semester of world history. We had American history every year though. Because I’m so close to Washington DC, Philadelphia, civil war battlefields, and the war college it may be location based curriculum. Like being in Texas you probably received a lot more Mexican history than I ever would’ve.
@soulie2001
@soulie2001 Жыл бұрын
@@Dovietail Texas still has some dignity ,thats why. Its Northern states that pander to the Critical Race Theory and Theology (That isnt christian or pagan, none of either allowed)
@robf5230
@robf5230 2 күн бұрын
As an American, I'm really jealous of Europeans for your history. Not only must it feel more real living where it happened, but you also have access to all of these famous historical sites. We have our own history, but it's not old or foreign enough to cultivate the same awe. I'm supposedly related to Lancasters, though, and that's gotten me interested in this history no matter how silly that feels to type.
@MrTylerStricker
@MrTylerStricker 4 ай бұрын
I've always enjoyed this mystery as well as the mysterious end of Arthur I, Duke of Brittany. Two of my favorite medieval tales!
@undampedmule
@undampedmule 11 ай бұрын
Great costumes, great props, great setting, and great oratory. I really enjoy this channel, if my father were still around he'd enjoy the heck out of it too.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@cindysuecox1
@cindysuecox1 Жыл бұрын
I loved this!! What an amazing video. I have my own opinion as to what happened to these boys. I'm glad you're being impartial, I also dearly loved the fact you were wearing the white boar symbol of Richard Duke of Gloucester/Richard III. just an observation.. Thanks! I appreciate you!!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
🤣 you spotted it - nice one. Thanks for the visit 👍
@christyhollis7909
@christyhollis7909 4 ай бұрын
You also show how you keep history alive not just in this case but your other films too. Thank you again
@michaelnewton319
@michaelnewton319 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, Mr Hicks! More questions than answers - which is great. Thank you for keeping our history alive. Who knows what really happened, but Richard the Third has a resemblance to Gríma Wormtongue and that's enough for me to be a little wary of him.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
😜 It really does get you thinking eh?
@nancytestani1470
@nancytestani1470 Жыл бұрын
I have read everything about the princes…and Medieval English and European history so fascinating..I sometimes believe that Buckingham, ..was behind the princes murder… and then Richard was the murderer…I go back and forth…still a mystery…love this stuff..
@adamkirtley3695
@adamkirtley3695 Жыл бұрын
Love love the subtle Richard iii things creeping in
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
LOL, not sure many people noticed 😜
@normajeanmorrissey4459
@normajeanmorrissey4459 7 ай бұрын
I truly enjoy his presentations. Great teacher! Plan to watch more of his great lectures. Makes the info. so enjoyable💂‍♂️👨‍🎓👑
@brianknezevich9894
@brianknezevich9894 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation as always. Somehow, my first visit to the tower of London, first wife, we got the most excellent beefeater tour guide, he somehow made the story and theories humorous. The whole thing being blown out of proportion as Tudor propaganda makes sense to me - although it's a definite historical mystery to this day. My daughter is about the age of the princes in the tower, and I'd trust her to run a nation more than many of the people who get elected, anyhow. If nothing else, she could conduct herself properly on a field of battle.
@brianknezevich9894
@brianknezevich9894 2 жыл бұрын
A humorous aside... Until I visited England the first time, I thought they were bee feeders, not beef eaters... I'd only heard it spoken, and my interests were mainly early medieval. I still get an occasional chuckle out of that, decades later. Hopefully someone reads this and gets a laugh, too!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I read it and you got a laugh for sure. Thanks for the visit 👍🏻
@johntowner1893
@johntowner1893 2 жыл бұрын
Buzzz Munch Ouch!
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
Well they are neither… they are Yeoman Warders… 🇬🇧
@johnlewis9745
@johnlewis9745 Жыл бұрын
Brian, Are you suggesting that Richard’s troops behaved properly on Bosworth Field, whilst Henry’s did not ?
@TheSegadroid
@TheSegadroid 9 ай бұрын
I've recently become a Patreon member of this fantastic channel. Kevin is absolutely fantastic. Really makes history engaging and also accessible.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 9 ай бұрын
Hi Peter, thanks for joining us over on Patreon, I really appreciate your support both over there and here with the comments. Cheers 👍🏻
@Celtopia
@Celtopia 2 ай бұрын
Exquisite content as usual,....thank you Kevin.
@jerrydempsey3490
@jerrydempsey3490 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin, Just discovered you today. I've watched several of your videos now and they are very good. Educational, entertaining and extremely well made. I've subscribed look forward to binge watching all of your videos.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome 👍
@mrcaptain9333
@mrcaptain9333 2 жыл бұрын
That last theory is intriguing…..would love to hear more on that one
@time-out-tuti-fruti5142
@time-out-tuti-fruti5142 Жыл бұрын
Buckingham has always been my thought if they did indeed die. But then Elizabeth would have absolutely done a deal with Richard if it was to her benefit. I love the mystery and history! 🤍
@christyhollis7909
@christyhollis7909 4 ай бұрын
You are a fantastic scholar and showing enthusiasm for the way you explain all of your research with a bit of humor your amazing keep it going. Thank you so very much.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Christy 👍🏻
@patscott6365
@patscott6365 Жыл бұрын
At school I hated history as the very elderly teacher did not make it alive and interesting as you do. She droned on monotonously, making us memorise dates of battles. So boring. Now, I absolutely devour historical novels and documentaries of that very interesting period, the Wars of the Roses and the rise of The Tudors. Thank you for your theories and engaging effects with a block of foam, toothpicks and portraits! Great!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching 👍🏻
@carlsenlifeafter60carlsen11
@carlsenlifeafter60carlsen11 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos, The history is fascinating. as an American I love hearing this history. My DNA came back 68% British. I was in a little shock. Ever since I’ve been interested in the castles in the history. So thank you for this… Great video!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
@MrCybersnow
@MrCybersnow 2 жыл бұрын
I was always a big appreciator of both History and Mistery, THIS story here just hits the nail on the head for me. And such wonderfully told too, amazing film!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
@deandeann1541
@deandeann1541 2 жыл бұрын
The killing of young people with a claim to a throne has a very long history, unfortunately -eg the killing of Cleopatra VII's son Caesareon (and the very many killings among the Ptolemies, Cleopatra's ancestors). How absolute power corrupts the human soul.
@bonniemagpie9960
@bonniemagpie9960 Жыл бұрын
Remnants still in Prince Charles blood except these days different tactics, "my husband is planning to have me killed in a car accident!" Nothing like the old blinding light trick hidden in plain paparazzi sight.
@tomwilson9024
@tomwilson9024 2 жыл бұрын
Oh fantastic. 2 videos in 2 days. Loving it. Thanks HistorySquad keep it going strong!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Tom, will do!
@kiwifruit27
@kiwifruit27 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, very succinctly told. Well done. A truly fascinating mystery
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, it's certainly generated a lot of interest 👍🏻
@Ryan-jz4fe
@Ryan-jz4fe 2 жыл бұрын
This has really wrecked my brain lol. I was bought on a theory until you said the next one and then I changed my mine. All are possible and it's gotten me very interested in who could have been behind it. Gonna have to read into this now. But I can't lie, that last theory is very interesting and in my opinion maybe one of the less likely ones but it's very intriguing. Such a shame we may never know the truth. Great video
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, cheers Ryan, it really is puzzling isn't it with all those possible players 👍🏻
@cherylthommo1
@cherylthommo1 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. What a wonderful series. The finger will always be pointed at Richard III but Buckingham, Bishop Morton and Margaret Beaufort had more of a reason for those boys to disappear. Margaret Beaufort was an amazing woman for her time. A survivor and politically savvy. Lucky to survive childbirth at the age of 13! Henry VII would not have come to the throne without her. Also Margaret's first cousin was Buckingham's mother. Thank you!
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
Margaret Beaufort was a scheming witch .. but hey you beatify her if you must.. 🤷‍♀️🇬🇧
@YorkistRaven
@YorkistRaven Жыл бұрын
m.b betrayed the man who had spared her sorry life for treason. Then she had him done to death. She must be the most hated woman in British history...and deservedly so.
@kevinlutz5994
@kevinlutz5994 3 ай бұрын
I read Allison Wier's," The Princes in The Tower." The Wars of The Roses, one of my favorite periods in history.
@blueneeson9888
@blueneeson9888 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a Brilliant Video From Blue
@manfrombritain6816
@manfrombritain6816 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is so inexplicably captivating
@michaelwhite8031
@michaelwhite8031 Жыл бұрын
The last theory about the Evans tomb has been blown out of the water by Starkey
@babbybailey2534
@babbybailey2534 10 ай бұрын
You laid out the family very well. Thanks again.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 10 ай бұрын
My pleasure, thanks for watching 👍🏻
@scotta3906
@scotta3906 Жыл бұрын
How fascinating! This one of my new favorite channels
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@dianahunt6090
@dianahunt6090 Жыл бұрын
Thank. You. Mrhicks. Loving. This History!!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
More to come!
@prawnenjoyer
@prawnenjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
Always exciting to see a new upload from you!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy!
@krissymarklewis1793
@krissymarklewis1793 Жыл бұрын
I always thought Richard was a bit of a scapegoat. Obviously, some one killed them but it's lost in time.
@als3022
@als3022 2 жыл бұрын
Very good to listen too. Remember when they found the Richard III's body in a parking lot. Interesting stuff to see. Although I will admit when I first saw this, I remembered the 1st season of Blackadder where Richard won the battle of Bosworth and was killed by his great nephew and Edward ruled for 12 years. Fun stuff.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I love that series!
@ManchuArrowLauncher
@ManchuArrowLauncher Жыл бұрын
Interesting as always. I started watching your videos for the Archery but I have kept coming back for all your content
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Hey, I appreciate that! Thank you 👍🏻
@teresat.6386
@teresat.6386 Жыл бұрын
I wish my history teachers were more animated, energetic, enthusiastic and told history in a story format. I might have taken a better intetest in history in the U.S.A. and other countries. As always, job well done! 🙂❤
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
LOL, cheers Teresa 👍🏻
@ltipst2962
@ltipst2962 Жыл бұрын
As a desired policeman, I take it this means I'm impartial too. It does all seem some royalty was involved in something very sinister indeed. Thank you for the video very well made :)
@andrewrice2376
@andrewrice2376 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, and the riddle of the two kids vanishing... :)
@BMrider75
@BMrider75 Жыл бұрын
I've always been swayed by Josephine Tey 'the Daughter of Time', published in 1951. I was persuaded both princes were still alive after Richard III died....
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
That's my preferred theory too 👍🏻
@minimundus1712
@minimundus1712 Жыл бұрын
You Sir, you are one of the best story tellers on YT love your channel really.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, I appreciate you watching 👍🏻
@normdunbar2943
@normdunbar2943 Жыл бұрын
LOL Totally impartial commentator, is that a Richard III cap badge on your cap comforter? Couldn't resist it lol!!!! Truly it is a great tale and a fascinating mystery. I subscribe to the theory of a loving mother caring more about her children and their safety than the throne, and so doing a deal with Richard. What good and honest, loving mother would sacrifice her children, even in those times, when she had an option of saving them to live a decent lifestyle in some degree of safety.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Haha, you spotted the boar 😜. Thanks for watching Norm 👍🏻
@normdunbar2943
@normdunbar2943 Жыл бұрын
@@thehistorysquad Cheers mate, I watch every one.
@Hrodn
@Hrodn 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you, Kevin, when you say you are unbiased in this matter. Another mystery in this video, which you didn't mention, is how those white boar badges appeared on you clothing. I have a theory about that, but I'll keep it to myself.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
😜
@YorkistRaven
@YorkistRaven Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@mariadudley7915
@mariadudley7915 Жыл бұрын
Your explanation makes the subject so clear and I am able to understand the events much better!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Good to hear Maria. Thanks
@MichaelWilliams-tv1bm
@MichaelWilliams-tv1bm 2 жыл бұрын
If they were murdered at all, the person to benefit most would be Henry VII. As a usurper who was surrounded by a number of people with a better dynastic claim to the throne, he was beset by a number of actual rebellions and a fear of others. In fact the last Yorkist claimant to the throne Richard de la Pole did not die until 1525, at the Battle of Pavia.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, in my non-biased opinion 😉
@AbuLaith1963
@AbuLaith1963 Жыл бұрын
@@thehistorysquad Not that I disagree with you sir but are you not wearing the badge of the White Boar? For myself, I lament the passing of the Catholic Yorkists given what Richard III's great nephew was to do to the medieval culture of England.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
@@AbuLaith1963 Busted! I am indeed a Richard supporter. My impartial references were meant to be tongue in cheek 😉
@AbuLaith1963
@AbuLaith1963 Жыл бұрын
@@thehistorysquad Odd isn't it that Sir James Tyrell was executed for the murders of the Princes in the Tower in 1502 - seventeen years after their 'murder' at the behest of Richard III. Surely, Henry Tudor would have swiftly executed the killer of his wife's brothers as soon as he was able to do so. This would have been in 1486 when Tyrell returned from France. Why did Henry Tudor pardon Tyrell twice - on June 16th and July 16th?
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
@@AbuLaith1963 🤔 the plot thickens
@PartiyaLenina1
@PartiyaLenina1 2 жыл бұрын
Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this son of York :P
@darlenedubois5595
@darlenedubois5595 Жыл бұрын
Wow! That was convoluted. So many theories. Interesting video as always.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Thanks Darlene 👍🏻
@dixiefallas7799
@dixiefallas7799 3 ай бұрын
Superb Kevin thanks again.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 3 ай бұрын
Cheers for watching 👍
@DerekTheRubbish
@DerekTheRubbish 4 ай бұрын
I just found your channel and I'm hooked! Amazing job pal.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 4 ай бұрын
Cheers & welcome 👍🏻
@hemaccabe4292
@hemaccabe4292 2 жыл бұрын
However you cut this, R3 doesn't get out smelling like a rose. Even if he had nothing to do with it, even if the boys were illegitimate, they were his brother's sons and he had an obligation to protect them at which he failed. Further, cui bono, R3 wanted those boys out of the way the most and had the best opportunity, he controlled the Tower. Motive, method, opportunity police man. Lastly, one of the tortured hit man's kids fessed up for him despite that they weren't under the rack if I heard your story correctly and that's damning. Great video. Made me think.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@callarose9432
@callarose9432 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this. Even if he didn't kill the boys (which he probably did), he is liable for putting them in the tower at all. He put them in danger, to begin with. They were sitting ducks up there. It's safe to say that Richard is the culprit but the mystery remains because Henry VII had a lot to gain from the boys' death too. If he killed the boys, that's so foul because their sister married him. A very intriguing mystery. Cheers, everyone!
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
@@callarose9432 No “ not safe to say” at all.. no proof and at lest two other protagonists.. the easy option perhaps.. And one would suppose it was a fair assumption that a guarded tower would be a safe a place as any.. 🤷‍♀️ wherever they had put them they would be found ,because other people would know of their destination… !! 🇬🇧
@YorkistRaven
@YorkistRaven Жыл бұрын
"hit men" under the reign of execution-happy tydders...aye. Anyone tortured would say literally anything to make it stop; anyone threatened with death by a tyrant would say whatever he thought was wanted. Others had access to the Tower--buckingham for instance...
@peterreece6547
@peterreece6547 2 жыл бұрын
Another good video Kevin, on our many travels around this country of ours visiting English Heritage , National trust and other bodies, the day we visited the battlefield at Bosward was the day that it was announced that the bones found in the car park were those Richard 3rd(I call him Dicky three to the annoyance of some folk). In our travels we have now been to the visitor centre where he was found. As you replied to one of my comments on another video of yours these island of ours are full of history.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
They are indeed, thanks for your comment Peter 👍🏻
@richardgallon5986
@richardgallon5986 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! thank you so much...
@elizabethrusson7495
@elizabethrusson7495 Жыл бұрын
I was always of the opinion that Henry knew the princes were "dead". Why did he marry Elizabeth of York and make her legitimate? That would also make the boys legitimate and nullify Henry's claim to the throne. So either he did it or he was told it had been done, even if it hadn't.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Interesting 👍🏻
@ruthe71
@ruthe71 Жыл бұрын
I live in Exeter not far from coldridge and I never knew of this story and links to Saint Matthew’s. Many thanks for sharing.
@Paddyp883
@Paddyp883 2 жыл бұрын
Again mate, absolutely outstanding content. Look forward to your vids. Keep it up bud, thank you. 🟥🆎🤙🏻
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton! Will do 👍🏻
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 2 жыл бұрын
A useful approach. Thanks for posting.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@projectinlinesix
@projectinlinesix 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent content! Thank you!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@user-mc1qd1fq7w
@user-mc1qd1fq7w 6 ай бұрын
I loved this! But I can’t believe nobody has mentioned one of my top ten books of all time: Daughter of Time, by Josephine Tey. It’s all about this subject, and SO good!
@terryoneill9525
@terryoneill9525 Жыл бұрын
great history lesson once again thanks
@MousesInHouses
@MousesInHouses Жыл бұрын
Ah, you remind me so much of my history teacher at school. He'd just walk up and down the classroom, talking about these people as if he knew them personally. Occasionally, he'd chalk a date or a name on the blackboard, but that was it. Fascinating, and an entire classroom full of O Level passes! I think a deal was cut, and boys were spirited away. There were plenty of young skeletons around in the late 15th century to leave in the 'right place' as a decoy.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
A lovely comment, thank you. Interesting to hear as we were talking this evening about our son Josh, who has lived and breathed history with me growing up, he failed his GCSE history because of his terrible teacher and a dull curriculum. 👍🏻
@MousesInHouses
@MousesInHouses Жыл бұрын
@@thehistorysquad The teacher makes all the difference, don't they? And if you're going to get kids interested, give them something bloodthirsty to hook them in!
@peterkost4376
@peterkost4376 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great. Just finished a book on Henry #7 and it talked about these boys
@jenniferandrews1917
@jenniferandrews1917 Жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon your channel. I’m thoroughly enjoying it, thank you.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Welcome Jennifer, glad you're liking it!
@jenniferandrews1917
@jenniferandrews1917 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@pernilletimm
@pernilletimm Жыл бұрын
I think that the princes were moved from the Tower to somewhere else, a save place, and it might have been known for the people involved. Matthew Lewis has some interesting theories about this ❤️ and Philippa Langley are doing some deep research, and will announce something later this year. SO interesting!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
I'll keep an ear out for that, thanks 👍🏻
@stav1369
@stav1369 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@henryvagincourt4502
@henryvagincourt4502 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff as always, 🏹
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@thehilligan
@thehilligan 2 жыл бұрын
Never been a policeman myself, but my questions would be: where is the evidence that they went into the Tower in the first place? And what was the source? Does it hoild up? If they were in there, who had access to them? This would rule out some candidates, I would have thought. Also if Edward was indeed "John Evans" it`s interesting that" he chose" a Welsh name-the Tudors being essentially Welsh.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
All great questions!!
@AbuLaith1963
@AbuLaith1963 Жыл бұрын
If anything, through his paternal grandmother, Henry VII was Valois and had a better claim to the French crown than the English.
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
@@AbuLaith1963 Yes but he identified more with the Welsh side.. he spent much time with his Uncle Jasper and with the Herbert’s in Pembroke before going to France to the Duke of Brittany .. 😊
@johnpauldavis1967
@johnpauldavis1967 2 жыл бұрын
top notch story telling - loving the visual aids :-)
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Just a bit of fun 😉
@arthurdoucette1786
@arthurdoucette1786 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings once again from nova Scotia, thank you for another great video, this one being a fantastic thought experiment. I have always wondered what really happened to those poor little kids, royalty or not, that's what they were, young kids........GOD hold them, and thank you for making this video. Blessings
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Arthur - keep well 👍🏻
@Medieval_Mayhem
@Medieval_Mayhem 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Kevin.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
@DR-zj4od
@DR-zj4od Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@nancybradford8514
@nancybradford8514 Жыл бұрын
Best mystery of all
@darrkinney1787
@darrkinney1787 8 ай бұрын
I wish you were my history teacher. The death of the 2 brothers have always been a mystery to me.
@lisabaccich9270
@lisabaccich9270 7 ай бұрын
Amazingly presented as always! I’ve often wondered about those dear boys. I always understood the Shakespearean presentation as factual history, but can we really say that? Blind acceptance is never a good idea. With all those theories (my favorite is the last one), I don’t think we will ever know. Thank you for such wonderful history brought to this American watching in her home in the USA!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching Lisa 👍🏻
@Jakobvielsted
@Jakobvielsted Жыл бұрын
Really like you’r videos, you are unbiased and just telling what went on and how maby the scenarios in fact took place Greetings from Denmark 🙏🏾😁
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
LOL, glad you enjoyed it & hello Denmark 👍🏻
@zodiaczentarot
@zodiaczentarot Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video 😊
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@DRUM2Xs
@DRUM2Xs Жыл бұрын
You crack me up how you go from serious to “welp! Ok now!” 😆😆👊🏾🤙🏾 I enjoy the vids
@mikemann903
@mikemann903 Жыл бұрын
Great work mate
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
Cheers Mike, thanks for the visit
@FalchionHawk
@FalchionHawk 2 жыл бұрын
kevin! love the channel!
@blindarchershaunhenderson3769
@blindarchershaunhenderson3769 2 жыл бұрын
Another awesome storytelling, 😎🏹🙏
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Shaun, glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻
@BinaryzeroNYC
@BinaryzeroNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Very good man, cheers from NYC
@petehall889
@petehall889 Жыл бұрын
An excellent explanation of theories surrounding the Princes in the Tower and their demise, Kevin. Much food for thought there! It didn't escape my notice the you were wearing boar insignia and I have always thought more generously than many of Richard III. I was pleased when his remains were exhumed from beneath the car park in Leicester and given reverent Christian burial, as befits an anointed King of England. As for the battle of Bosworth Field in 1485 that brought Henry to the throne, I have never thought well of the Stanleys' role in the conflict!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
You and me both Pete 👍🏻
@cindysuecox1
@cindysuecox1 Жыл бұрын
Bosworth, I am not even kidding a little bit when I say that everytime I hear that battle mentioned, I say a little prayer for Richard, as he fought valiantly, and that is always immediately followed by ...well I will call them unkind thoughts about the Stanleys.. I agree also that it is an excellent thing Richard was found and given a proper burial. No matter what, he was an anointed King and deserved far more than being beneath a carpark! 🙏
@Ionabrodie69
@Ionabrodie69 Жыл бұрын
Another nail in Margaret Beauforts coffin … she may not access to the tower but she was married to someone who had …or at least power to gain it… he was one of Richards trusted ally’s.. As for the Treachery on the battlefield, Those two men and Rhys Ap Thomas were the instruments of Richards downfall without a shadow of a doubt… I think it’s scandalous that Richard was reinterred in Leicester.. he should have been taken to Yorkshire/ York.. where he loved and is loved.. I’m from Barnard Castle ( 5 miles away anyway) and he is still loved up here.. the thought that he lies where he was so treacherously defeated makes my blood boil… but we know why…🙄🇬🇧
@petehall889
@petehall889 Жыл бұрын
@@Ionabrodie69 Indeed! I know which side I would have fought on - I've always thought Richard was the victim of character assassination by the devious and rather unpleasant Henry Tudor after Bosworth. I may be from the South, but I have always been a White Rose man. At least our King Richard is finally interred with the respect due to him, though it might have been nice for him to come home - York Minster would have been a suitably magnificent resting place. Incidently, my middle name is Richard, a name I am proud to bear.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
@@Ionabrodie69 A great comment, thanks 👍🏻
@phillwilkes7764
@phillwilkes7764 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@alexandermorrisonhagan1820
@alexandermorrisonhagan1820 Жыл бұрын
Well done again mate!,a little bit more, the woodville's had the manor of Grafton Regis, three miles from there is the town of Stony Stratford, where the two princes were taken captive, in the rose and crown inn,
@Blessed_V0id
@Blessed_V0id Жыл бұрын
No wonder this community is so supportive and (from what I've seen) kind with a spear head like this. Absoloute legend. Respect to him. If you read this my friend, the good work you do has effects. Butterfly effect and all. You are a respectable example of police and soldiers, and I will approach the topic with much more respect entirely thanks to you.
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad Жыл бұрын
How kind of you, thanks very much 👍🏻
@dorothywillis1
@dorothywillis1 9 ай бұрын
Both Richard III and Henry VII were very intelligent men. If they decided the princes had to be liquidated it would have been done by arranging for them to die of fever or sweating sickness or plague or something like that. Their illness would have been announced, bulletins on their health issued, and when they died there would have been a big public funeral so everyone knew they were definitely gone. But that didn't happen. I have no idea what happened, but I am certain it would be VERY interesting to know!
@thehistorysquad
@thehistorysquad 9 ай бұрын
A very good point Dorothy! 👍🏻
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