In order: It's neat It probably is If my monthly income were about that much Probably not Ultimately this is just abstract for me, who earns 50 or so grand a year and can't fathom the numbers involved.

Or they only wanted the PSU off the board for another project or computer at the time? That's why we only have this part that was thrown away. And not the other part that might of been reused for something else? I'd rebuild it if it had all the chips. Otherwise without the chips it becomes a ship of theseus project with this much of it missing. interesting, but not for $1M. but the market for just about anything right now is stupid.

@@MobCat_ I agree, I think they stole the power supply. The corners cut off was maybe some had this working at some point and installed in a case of some kind. Later, maybe they salvaged for parts, including the power supply.

That would be a massive risk to take. If it had been complete, it likely would've sold for considerable more. The 2nd half would also have less value for people other than whoever bought the 1st half. It wouldn't be unusual to remove a chunk(back at the time) to use parts, aside from just accidental breakage.

@@DoubleMonoLR Aye, youre right on all points. I was just playing around with ideas.

That's actually a good theory. Maybe Apple themselves borrowed it to troubleshoot power problems on the production boards.

It would be a pretty sad state of affairs to destroy a working PCB for a standard PSU section, no technician with any soul would do that. It would be easier to build one from scratch rather than hacksaw a PCB.

@@joefish6091 it's not the pcb part of it necessarily but that you'd have to transplant the components off it anyway. if they needed a working one for the next prototype and radio shack wasn't open or didn't have the parts that's just what you do. if you hacked the thing together in the first place it's no big deal for you to hack it apart. (or maybe it caught fire or whatever)

I'd be more likely to believe that this board was reused for developing something else, and the right side of the board interfered in some way.

who knows how many laptop supplies i've lopped the end off because i needed a random 19v...

I think it's often that way in many things.. something you create yourself isn't as special to you as something created by someone else. Especially someone else who's famous.

@@TechTimeTraveller I have a prototype Sonos like system I helped develop at Intel 22 years ago. For me it was 18 months worth of hard work, but the memories are what are special... not the artifact

True. As one of those guys, I have blank PCBs of products that I designed (especially where I laid out the PCB as well) and also fully functional units. The first units from a mass production run are always more satisfying to me than the prototypes that led up to that point.

more so the apple 1, as it has no case, no keyboard, it was only Circuit Board - PCB, with a lot of off the shelf part added, except PCB - Circuit Board, and if buying a fully put to gatherer machine, the Circuit Board - PCB, will be totaly concealed in a case? and from the out side it might as well by a 2022 copy remade with all new off the shelf parts, today?

This was "just junk" at one point -- a bodge-wire prototype of a board that they only made a handful of, and was obsolete almost instantly. Apple couldn't even send it as a warranty exchange.

Yeah I read about that business - that seemed crazy. And they would have paid top dollar for that according to various sites.. like $900k. I'm glad that one was a scam - if they actually did that they should be flogged!

@@TechTimeTraveller Well.... It may just be where the cut off part of this board went 😋

Whilst I don't disagree with the system Dave bought recently, isn't this a homebrew?

It's available to bidders.. I'm not sure how that works, if there's some sort of NDA that has to be signed. Corey has certain undisclosed knowledge about A1 production that he doesn't want potential forgers having.

You were at WESCON 75? That's pretty incredible! Would love to hear more about that.

I feel like if someone tried to 'restore' it the originality would be ruined anyway.

@@TechTimeTraveller True. I am working on a Scopitone film jukebox right now and originality is the furthest thing from my mind as I attempt to get it working.

No, thank you for watching and being supportive! With regards to a museum, I would love to do that. My collection began in earnest when a big computer store in Vancouver closed their own museum. However this area is notoriously costly for space.. probably on par with expensive parts of New York or LA. So that would be a major impediment to getting something like that going. I have thought about organizing a VCF festival up here though, so that might be one way to get things seen.

Might have been the Lisa 2 - the original Lisa 1 with the Twiggy drives would have been crazy rare even then. The Lisa 2 would be worth several thousands today, so it would still suck. But if it was a Lisa 1.. yeah, that'd be worth crying over. :)

I think Apple should fork over whatever it takes to buy and display it at their headquarters.

Already hunting myself lol

What would the replica sell for? $50,000 to the right buyer? (Perhaps a bit more if it could be convincingly described as another previously "lost"/unknown prototype.)

Possibly - the 6501 CPU itself would be worth $5k if you could find one. If it were 100% authentic looking.. yeah, easily north of $10k or $20k anyway.

For all we know, Jobs could have snapped it in a fit of rage after getting forced out.

Yeah I didn't know what to make of that. It's of course possible they were trimmed later, but why?

@@TechTimeTraveller Maybe it was mounted in a case at some point.

It is puzzling. It looks like the board in the Polaroid photos has mounting holes in the corners. Maybe someone had attempted to secure the mounted board with threadlocker or epoxy or something, and then later found sawing off the holes in the corners was the only way to remove it.

@@bcostin I can definitely imagine how this would have happened!

I think Woz has a similar attitude to Jobs

The theory some have is the power supply section was saved for something else. Another possibility is the board was snapped because it was done its duty and headed for the garbage pile. There's a lot of things that don't quite add up with it, but someone apparently was convinced to the tune of $700k that it's real. And of course, the only person that could say it wasn't for certain is deceased.

@@TechTimeTraveller I'll never understand the extreme value some people put on... things. Then again, I'll never have the kind of wealth that allows someone to spend over half a million dollars without too much worry.

@photodan24 it's historically significant and it's belong to Steve jobs

$750k

I own a Newton Apple 1 board. I haven't gotten around to building it - I'm a stickler for authenticity and with so many people at it finding the right parts are hard. But someday I will build it for sure.

I'd buy at least 3 C64DXs!

oh hey, zooming into the rear view photo, you can see some solder and flux residue there.

Yeah. I had been looking for signs of that with the resistors I was pointing out - because I thought it might be possible that this was a prototype board but not *the* Terrell prototype.. and maybe someone who saw the photos in Time or wherever moved the jumpers to align. But it looked like they'd been that way since day one to me.

Yeah I don't agree with the premise that the Apple-1 was the first PC.. it was something raised over on applefritter.. apparently IEEE or such has a motion to recognize it as first simply because everything was on board. I find that too arbitrary. To me a personal computer is an electronic device that can carry out computation for an individual, at a price an average individual could afford. But you go pretty broadly there. For all we know the first such computer was put together by a hermit electronics guru in his garage in 1969 but never caught any public notice. You could get neck deep in semantics on stuff like this. The one that irks me more is mainstream media outlets that call the Altair the first personal computer. I'd love to know what was in Corey's report.. if they were able to reasonably prove Jobs gave this person this thing. The only thing I find odd about the whole thing is that Apple-1s have been known to be hugely valuable now for years, but this owner never mentioned having been given this prototype until now. With Jobs being dead anyone could say they met him or got something from him.. hard for him to refute it. Some people are private I guess.

@@TechTimeTraveller Yeah, the problem with the whole idea of declaring some particular machine the "first personal computer" should be obvious, but it sure doesn't stop anyone from trying. Even the most superficially valid criteria, price, is ridiculously subjective: run it through an inflation calculator and the Apple I's introductory $666 price (which was just the motherboard, you were in for the better part of a thousand bucks before you were up and running with a keyboard and cassette interface, let alone the TV) comes to about $3,400 today; is that "affordable"? (And it also wasn't even that cheap; you could get a turnkey S-100 system like the PolyMorphic Systems Poly-88 for about the same money, and the Poly-88 had a superior memory-mapped video display much more similar to a modern PC. And for that matter, the Sphere 6800 was also very much in the same price ballpark almost a full year earlier.) Personally I like the argument, which I've seen semi-seriously advanced, that the first "personal computer" was the MIT Whirlwind I, circa 1951. It cost a bazillion dollars, sure, but it was the first computer designed for single person to sit down at a console and interact in real time with in the way we expect computers to behave today. (It even had a graphics display with a light pen and was the first computer for which "game programs" were written.) Everything since then has been about shrinking that experience down and making it cheaper, trying to pick some arbitrary point on that slope and declaring it the "first" is a fool's errand. (Although I guess if you were really going to put a gun to my head and make me pick the first "consumer PC" I would probably vote for the TRS-80 Model I, based on the arbitrary criteria that it was the first well known, popular, and *completely assembled* turnkey computer you could buy and start pounding away on in BASIC, not machine language, for less than the magic number of a thousand bucks. The Apple II beat it to market by a month but sold for $1,300, not $599; that's the difference between $3000 and $6000 in today's money and the TRS-80 included the monitor and cassette recorder; you could have it for $399 without. $3,000 is a jacked but not completely unreasonable gaming PC, nobody not filthy rich spends $6,000 on a home computer. ) Back to provenance... yeah, this story does seem awfully fishy. I'm not going to say the artifact itself is a fake, I'm willing to buy that, sure, it's a populated and subsequently destroyed Apple I prototype, but *anybody* could have dumpster-dived that thing. It smells to me like something someone found in a garage after someone who worked at or near Apple in the late 1970's passed away.

Yeah I'm generally suspicious of stuff like this, especially when the potential value is so elevated. I trust Corey Cohen though. If he weren't involved, I'd be wondering, not so much that this is a forgery constructed in 2022, but that maybe it's not exactly the unit in the photo, maybe someone with the board looked at the photos in 2012 when they were published, moved/changed components to match - making it the one in the photo might add a few $ in value. I'd definitely want to see provenance on this and have some kind of proof the seller and Jobs knew each other. I think that's the main thing that would matter here. It's relatively possible to manufacture everything else.

If you don't trust it, don't buy it.

Emphasizing that Cohen's report is notarized is pointless. It just means that a notary verified his identity as the author; it does not speak to the accuracy of the contents. More than once I had to submit a notarized legal document for various purposes. The notary checked my ID and witnessed the signature. S/He had no idea if the information on the notarized document was factually correct.

@@TechTimeTraveller The unaligned components are the suspects here. There's no reason for them to be exactly unaligned as the ones in the 1976 polaroid unless this is the same board.

Those of you that rely on internet memes OBVIOUSLY never had anything to do with Apple. Like, seeing or using an Apple computer. BTW, Apple hate is sooo 2010, don't you people have anything better to troll about?

Apple: The Samsung of Yesterday, Tomorrow. :P

36°C is 98.6°F so yeah, freezing!

@@jonasduell9953 he said 36, not 98.. get outa here

@@juliedunken1150 wha? Lol

@@jonasduell9953 if you can’t read go back to elementary school

@@juliedunken1150 Anger management issues?

Yet you're commenting on it.

@@mojoblues66 Apple hate is still strong. Imagine making a video about a 1977 refrigerator and having people pour all that hate into General Electric.