A Modern Operating System in 1.44MBs

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Ionic1k

Ionic1k

4 ай бұрын

In this video I tried out KolibriOS, an operating system that is so small it can fit on a single 1.44mb floppy disk!
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@leency
@leency 4 ай бұрын
Greetings from KolibriOS developer and main designer, and thanks for the review! Hardware support is on the wiki. Some apps like video-player and DosBox are available only in full images suitable for USB / ISO / HDD.
@The14Some1
@The14Some1 4 ай бұрын
Why wasn't he able to setup a soundblaster?
@leency
@leency 4 ай бұрын
@@The14Some1 only ISA SB16 is supported, no other SB card. Unfortunately.
@jasonrubik
@jasonrubik 4 ай бұрын
@@leency What's a good modern OS for a Compaq Deskpro 386S ? Currently it has Win 3.1 and DOS 6.22
@leency
@leency 4 ай бұрын
@@jasonrubik Modern OS for x386? :DDD Emmmmmmmm Win 3.1 is the best I suppose.
@tiporari
@tiporari 4 ай бұрын
@leency, amazing achievement!
@CrackyCreates
@CrackyCreates 4 ай бұрын
>interested in random OS >owns old hardware >linux PFP >astolfo statue next to screen yeah makes sense
@elbert5208
@elbert5208 4 ай бұрын
Wdym? What are you suggesting
@xzp
@xzp 4 ай бұрын
😼
@user-ke6gn8pg3u
@user-ke6gn8pg3u 4 ай бұрын
meow
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 4 ай бұрын
Vague kids everywhere 🤦‍♂️
@myfranci560
@myfranci560 4 ай бұрын
Old otaku?
@dzeppetto3143
@dzeppetto3143 3 ай бұрын
Astolfo figure on the desk. Bro is a real IT specialist
@arahok7675
@arahok7675 3 ай бұрын
well, i have a super sonico instead, i think what astolfo means is a bit more darker :v
@crazyskill638
@crazyskill638 3 ай бұрын
Bro is a re- ACK!
@defaultdan7923
@defaultdan7923 3 ай бұрын
@@crazyskill638complete random question, why do so many people do this? what does it signify? i’m genuinely curious.
@literallyshinjiikari
@literallyshinjiikari 3 ай бұрын
@@defaultdan7923 femboy
@jlo8863
@jlo8863 3 ай бұрын
nice waifu ....... he's a man of culture.
@SocialPrime
@SocialPrime 4 ай бұрын
That is freaking impressive. Shows us how unoptimized modern software is.
@user1111AB
@user1111AB 4 ай бұрын
sadly its on purpose to hasten planned obsolescence
@22minecraftguy
@22minecraftguy 4 ай бұрын
@@user1111AB optimization is extra money to develop and why do it if everyone has like 8gb+ and 500gb+ hard drives nowadays
@jokubolakis6
@jokubolakis6 4 ай бұрын
Unoptimized or optimized to work on various combinations of hardware combos, and having to support legacy software
@le9038
@le9038 4 ай бұрын
@@22minecraftguy because if you can make it so that, that one game can put out 10+ extra frames. you could allow people to play at a higher quality rather than having to compromise on worse graphics. Plus, the assumption that everybody has a 4090 with the latest CPU and one terabyte of RAM is how we got City Skylines 2.
@2009dudeman
@2009dudeman 4 ай бұрын
@@le9038 The issue is a balance between optimization and actually releasing a game. The base of the issue is the massive data we have to deal with. Just take a single 4k texture, which many games now pack inside them. You aren't storing raw 4k textures, just a single raw 4k screenshot of my desktop is 24MB, compressing it to a .png reduces the size by 10x to just 2.4MB and JPG is smaller yet at 1.2MB. Thats important because a GPU can't render off compressed files, by nature of how compression works. So it has to uncompress these images on the fly as it needs them. So now thats overhead to deal with that you just can't optimize. So you either have a game like Cities Skylines that is 60GB or 600GB. Another factor for visual optimization is visual effects. A GPU does what's it's told, nothing more and nothing less. So when you want a fast frame, you need to make sure it can complete all instructions required to fill the frame buffer fast enough to display at the required frame rate. Each instruction takes time to process. Say you want to display an image on a billboard. It's one rectangle overlaid onto another rectangular space in the visual field. So once the GPU gets the texture it needs in memory it needs to calculate scaling which is a simple function, vertical key, horizontal key, rotation, other distortions or transforms, then it needs to convert that distorted 3d pixel information into a non-distorted square grid pixel pattern so it can be put in the frame buffer. The most optimal equations for doing this are already in use. The problem is we are asking it to do this millions of times per frame. Everything takes time and you run into issues where waiting for the silicon gates to change states becomes an issue so you can add two numbers using the most basic instruction there is. Doing all this by hand in code would be faster still. But that would take an entire lifetime to hand write and optimize every machine instruction in assembler. Not to mention every new GPU or CPU that adds or changes a feature would require learning an entirely new assembler language set. So we decide that releasing the game is important and create a high level compiler that we can write the game in and when it's time to write the game code, we compile it to run on top of an OS running environment, it tries to pick the best choices but there are edge cases that would just be too complex to automate so the compiler instead picks the slower and more reliable approach. This OS environment is yet another interpreter of sorts as it has to translate between the game engine and the hardware drivers, having an AMD or Intel CPU shouldn't require a different installer, having an i7-9700k vs an i7 12700k shouldn't require a different compiled version of the game. So again, we make decisions that are slower but more stable. Then we run into issues where you have dozens to hundreds of programmers working on the game code, a method one person uses to optimize game code may be just as effective as another persons method, but the two methods cannot work together, so you just pick a happy medium that both people understand how to write, even if it's not as effective. The result is a heavy leverage on people having more powerful computers because the game has to release at all. And since we want near photorealistic games with 4k textures and accurate physics simulations, we have to compromise somewhere.
@leblueawoo
@leblueawoo 4 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure KolibriOS was designed to be an experiment on how much functionality you can fit into a 3.5" floppy disk, hence why there's 3 of everything and more games than an old Nokia. Edit: As others have pointed out, this was a fork of said project (MenuetOS). How has YT taught me more about computers than any of my teachers did?
@benholroyd5221
@benholroyd5221 4 ай бұрын
Old nokias only have snake? Contemporary ericsons had more games.
@leblueawoo
@leblueawoo 4 ай бұрын
​@@benholroyd5221Congratulations, I certify you immune to jokes.
@benholroyd5221
@benholroyd5221 4 ай бұрын
@@leblueawoo I'm not immune, just extremely pedantic and argumentative.
@leblueawoo
@leblueawoo 4 ай бұрын
​@@benholroyd5221Very well. Have a good day.
@copperboltwire320
@copperboltwire320 4 ай бұрын
@@benholroyd5221 In layman terms: Same thing
@mikehibbett3301
@mikehibbett3301 4 ай бұрын
I'm one of the designers of MenuetOS (I wrote the TCP/IP stack in assembler for it years ago.) Feel free to reach out for more info.
@pro_gemer
@pro_gemer 4 ай бұрын
That's awesome! I don't know much about MenuetOS but considering that a 1.44mb OS with bloat (how?) was based on it then I'm sure that it was crazy well made :]
@lollixd6580
@lollixd6580 4 ай бұрын
Hey, could you maybe tell me how start assembler programming?
@deltakid0
@deltakid0 4 ай бұрын
Do you have twitter? Can I talk to you on Github? Gmail?
@deltakid0
@deltakid0 4 ай бұрын
​@@lollixd6580follow Ben Eater's 8-bit computer build, after that I would choose a popular architecture to write code for, ARM is getting a lot of attention these days but there's also a lot about x86 especially for 32-bit which is much more easier and less restrictive to write code for than 64-bit
4 ай бұрын
do you also need a tutorial for google and youtube?
@dfs-comedy
@dfs-comedy 4 ай бұрын
Back in around 1999, I made a single-floppy Linux OS for a client. He wanted a firewall that couldn't be permanently altered by an attacker. So the LILO boot loader, the Linux kernel, and an init script that set up firewall rules was put on a single 1.44MB floppy disk that was then write-protected. It did work, but I felt it was more a silly proof-of-concept than something all that useful. EDIT: But this one looks WAY cooler.
@satibel
@satibel 2 ай бұрын
Good job, I made a pxe boot to remmina in 8 megs and it was a pain. Though it was core linux based and needed a gui even with the init to rdp client. It did work on quite a lot of old windows 95 PCs. Though we didn't put the project into action as I burned out and left not that long after. I'm sad I don't have those sources anymore.
@savage5757
@savage5757 4 ай бұрын
2:28 It's amazing, I didn't expect to see a graphical interface in such a compact Operating System
@andrejszasz2816
@andrejszasz2816 4 ай бұрын
Well we had GeOS on the Commodore 64, a GUI. I also had a mouse to use it with ;)
@danbuc
@danbuc 3 ай бұрын
Amiga workbench 1.3 fits on a single disk too
@DankManDanny
@DankManDanny 4 ай бұрын
Would be good to see a series on all the extremely lightweight OSs out there
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 4 ай бұрын
Yep, but they're mostly old now or just stripped down Linux which is nothing special, 10 a penny. KolibriOS still works and is still developed. I've installed it on everything from a Pentium 3 to an 8th gen intel 6 core machine. Networking and even some USB wifi adaptors worked automatically and I could download more, larger software from their online library. You can even run software openGL engines (slow but it works). There are side-projects to get Linux graphics drivers working with it. -- Most KolibriOS contributors are not natives of the Anglosphere so a lot of the posts are foreign but you can check the live development boards and things, some of it is in English. ReactOS and Menuet / KolibriOS should have had a ton of money thrown at them 15+ years ago onward by everyone pi$$ed off with Microsoft. Linux got all the support. Sad.
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 4 ай бұрын
Agree
@TheSimoc
@TheSimoc 4 ай бұрын
Wish we could have a mainstream one, like we used to.
@FireJojoBoy
@FireJojoBoy 4 ай бұрын
@@TheSimoc true, there are some modifications of like windows and stuff that remove bloat but I'm too much of a whimp to try unsupported versions
@dj1ch.
@dj1ch. 4 ай бұрын
@@FireJojoBoy the problem with those is potential security vulnerabilities and malaware. windows is proprietary and we don't know if such things exist on the OS
@untitled_person1941
@untitled_person1941 4 ай бұрын
most people be using discord in 2024 mate you're using discord in 1994
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka 4 ай бұрын
ONline! If you know you know.
@gabinoliveras9064
@gabinoliveras9064 4 ай бұрын
what os is he using ? @@michaelcallummayaka
@attribute-4677
@attribute-4677 4 ай бұрын
People..be..using? 🙄
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 4 ай бұрын
“People be using” I bet you’re actually a rich kid from the suburbs
@T..C..M
@T..C..M 4 ай бұрын
@@attribute-4677exactly, it’s a sickness
@zayneharbison
@zayneharbison 3 ай бұрын
Can it run Doom?
@cinderblocktreehouse
@cinderblocktreehouse Ай бұрын
He he he I hope so
@cinderblocktreehouse
@cinderblocktreehouse Ай бұрын
Also someone make a vid a bout this
@FORGZ857
@FORGZ857 Ай бұрын
i tried it and yeah i found doom already there
@bennubedroom
@bennubedroom Ай бұрын
But, can it run crysis???????
@FORGZ857
@FORGZ857 Ай бұрын
@@bennubedroom idk i didnt check if it runs . exe or other kind of application
@ClockwickProductions
@ClockwickProductions 4 ай бұрын
For those wondering, his DE skin on his main PC at the beginning of the video is Platinum9 for XFCE
@second2050
@second2050 4 ай бұрын
pretty sure the DE in the beginning is KDE Plasma 5 tho, looking at the notifications at the top right and the systray
@shezyam460
@shezyam460 4 ай бұрын
thanks i was wondering about this
@ulbricht_
@ulbricht_ 4 ай бұрын
love u
@bz4g
@bz4g 6 күн бұрын
What's a DE skin?
@ClockwickProductions
@ClockwickProductions 6 күн бұрын
@@bz4g skin for a 'desktop environment' (DE), in this case its for 'XFCE', a window manager / de for linux. you can get themes that change the look and feel by downloading them and putting them in the right folders and enabling them in the settings
@Termini_Man
@Termini_Man 4 ай бұрын
It is crazy. it looks like it has a bunch of bloatware in the form of 3 of everything, but it obviously doesn't, and is very compressed. It probobly is entirely crafted for super-compression in the form of using raw assembly to build itself. That had to have taken a while.
@jimbotron70
@jimbotron70 4 ай бұрын
Compression has nothing to do with it. Assembly coding is extremely space-efficient.
@TheRenegade...
@TheRenegade... 4 ай бұрын
​@@jimbotron70That's what they meant by compression
@honkhonkler7732
@honkhonkler7732 4 ай бұрын
@@TheRenegade... But its not compression. There just isn't a bunch of unnecessary code from C/C++ libraries linked by the compiler. It really puts into perspective just how much CPU power and storage space we waste in order to make it easier for software developers. Luckily, the raw power of modern hardware affords us this luxury.
@jimbotron70
@jimbotron70 4 ай бұрын
@@TheRenegade... No, you miss the point.
@frithusama2798
@frithusama2798 4 ай бұрын
So, while we use the term compression to refer to the process of converting information to a different representation of it via some algorithm, like zipping, compression in this case would be to squeez as much information in the less amount of space possible (as that is the meaning of "to compress"), so by simply designing all of this in asm, squeezing all this features in a single floppy disk was achieved. Thus compression, or at least I think that is what the op meant :P
@bricktasticanimations4834
@bricktasticanimations4834 4 ай бұрын
This looks great for an OS that only requires 1.44 MB. I'm definitely trying it myself.
@Alfred-Neuman
@Alfred-Neuman 4 ай бұрын
It doesn't require 1.44mb, it's just the size of the floppy disk you can save the OS on...
@bricktasticanimations4834
@bricktasticanimations4834 4 ай бұрын
@@Alfred-Neuman Yes I know. I just worded it slightly wrong because I was tired.
@andrejszasz2816
@andrejszasz2816 4 ай бұрын
@@bricktasticanimations4834also the system requirements are much larger (it expands the disk contents onto a ram disk) but it fits the dloppy when compressed
@bricktasticanimations4834
@bricktasticanimations4834 4 ай бұрын
@@andrejszasz2816 Yes, I'm sure.
@keenoogodlike
@keenoogodlike 4 ай бұрын
KolibriOS can run on extremely low end machine and perform 3d rendering. So cool!!! This is hidden gem OS.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Ай бұрын
no mouse or keyboard it's more likely it froze or locked up🤣🤣🤣
@px9720
@px9720 3 ай бұрын
2:40 old computer and astolfo is an interesting dynamic
@Insightfill
@Insightfill 4 ай бұрын
I remember QNX in the late 1990s. It was a "real time OS" planned for embedded devices, but the demo floppy had mouse use, browser, and a couple of games. Very cool.
@ergosteur
@ergosteur 4 ай бұрын
And now it’s owned by BlackBerry and runs on cars
@MaxOakland
@MaxOakland 4 ай бұрын
That’s pretty awesome. Wonder if I could find one
@gordon7478
@gordon7478 4 ай бұрын
QNX goes back to the early 80s actually, and it's still kickin'. Too bad it's proprietary, because it has its charms. Would be fun to fool around with on open hardware.
@bloodybritbastard
@bloodybritbastard 4 ай бұрын
This! It had everything and with a frame buffer video driver that didn't require dedicated drivers and still got to a working GUI. I suspect you could have also done the same with Windows 3.1 at the time if you really cut down on the system...
@paxsevenfour
@paxsevenfour 4 ай бұрын
RTOS’ like QNX are a thing. Why did you put it in quotes? Lol
@Choiman-mh4hw
@Choiman-mh4hw 4 ай бұрын
For audio, try the Sound Blaster 16 soundcard. I took a quick look at the source code, and it includes support for SB16 and Intel HDA, so this soundcard should work.
@whitewolf9705
@whitewolf9705 4 ай бұрын
This comment smacked me upside the head with nostalgia hard enough to miss my windows 95 demo disk
@teckz0r
@teckz0r 2 ай бұрын
Best "cheap"sound card ever made ...((i am realy crying about the fact that i have had 3 pc in my live with them bad ass mofo's (to play some dos games) and i now am using scarlett shizzle that is 120 times the price and half as good)anyway the architecture of old software is so much better hell i mean them processors got how much better? While that old software loads, how much faster?we as a species are doing something wrong other than being jell us all the time and thinking about hard core prawns all the time...
@mr_confuse
@mr_confuse 2 ай бұрын
​@@teckz0r everything is a skinned chrome browser now. Easy and cheap to develop and deploy but extremely resource hungry.
@bsdetector6908
@bsdetector6908 4 ай бұрын
The Amiga OS, Workbench, used half of 1.44 MBs and it was multitasking...
@mihajlo20m
@mihajlo20m 3 ай бұрын
It used 720kB double density diskettes and was able to format it as 880kB, with different filesystems like pfs,ffs,afs, it was able to use even more - near 1MB. And it had a real preemptive multitasking.
@w3m135
@w3m135 4 ай бұрын
1:26 ASTOLFOOOOO!!!!🤯🤯🤯🤯
@HyperDevv
@HyperDevv 2 ай бұрын
Smash
@edsiefker1301
@edsiefker1301 4 ай бұрын
DOSBOX! Now you can play DOS games on your Pentium II!
@JoBot__
@JoBot__ 4 ай бұрын
😂
@martingamper6435
@martingamper6435 4 ай бұрын
I tried that a few years ago on an IBM Thinkpad 600e with a 366MHz Pentium II on Windows XP (which does of course not make any sense to do on such a machine, because a real Dos based operating system could be installed). It worked great for earlier dos titles, but was definitely not up to the task for newer ones (like Elder Scrolls Daggerfall).
@DeskoDev
@DeskoDev 4 ай бұрын
​​@@martingamper6435 I used to have that as a kid! Locked myself out of it when the CMOS battery died, though, since I had a supervisor password set. Tried to reset it the hard way some years back but ended up bricking it.
@jimbotron70
@jimbotron70 4 ай бұрын
​@martingamper6435 Try it now on modern hardware.
@umadbro4493
@umadbro4493 3 ай бұрын
win 95 and 98 already have MSDOS
@dreamhollow
@dreamhollow 4 ай бұрын
Yep. As soon as you said it was an extremely lightweight operating system, I knew what some of the risks would be: You need drivers. Another big reason Linux has gotten so huge is not just updates to the core system, but the fact that Linux holds tons and tons of relevant driver files. You could theoretically keep nearly everything else about the system the same but without good drivers, it's only going to be partially functional compared to any other modern OS.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 4 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be too sure about that. As long as it has drivers for the hardware you're using then it's more than ample. Consider that I've got a huge build of the kernel and it still only takes up 12mb. While that's beyond the size of a floppy, it includes drivers for hardware I don't even have. Imagine a stripped down kernel that only has drivers for the absolute most common hardware that people could have. Even a full install of Win98 back in the day could take less than 500mb if you deleted the bloatware from it. I'd love to see him install a network card and sound card and really test it out, because the last time I used Menuet it worked with all of my hardware, and Kollibri being a fork should mean the same.
@borstenpinsel
@borstenpinsel 4 ай бұрын
Ironically, terrible hardware support is what keeps me from using Linux and I tried a dozen times in the last 20 years. At one point people suggested to use wine to run a freaking windows driver or something. My old eeePC has winXP. Why? No Linux (Ubuntu, debian idk what else I tried) supported the hardware. Some didn't like my screen, others had no audio support and or no support for the WiFi chip. Either way, it was a literal brick with any Linux. This is not hate, it just baffles me when people say something like "it has great driver support". Idk, maybe in the last 5 years something changed but I remember a time when literally nobody could use their own usb printer because there were no drivers😅
@ineverknowdoyou
@ineverknowdoyou 4 ай бұрын
​@@borstenpinselYea, there has been a lot of change in that sector, ive never had a driver issue, even nvida hasnt caused me any real pain. The only driver that was a pain was one for the led keyboard. Ive never had issues with printers either. But of corse i could just be the exception, im using common hardwere aswell. EDIT: forgot to mention ive only been using linux for the last 2 years.
@anon_y_mousse
@anon_y_mousse 4 ай бұрын
@@borstenpinsel That's the way it works sometimes. If you use weird hardware that none of the developers have, you're not going to get good drivers. I've been lucky with mine because I pretty much always use pre-builts and except for the Conexant soft-modem I had 25 years ago, everything worked out of the box, and Red Hat actually had drivers for it which I was able to use. Even my oddball printer that I've got now works, but boy was it a PITA to get working.
@kaoboom
@kaoboom 4 ай бұрын
@@anon_y_mousse my kernel is configured for my hardware and also takes up 12MB, so specializing the driver load-out probably won't save much as such. I also see now that the size has increased markantly over time 5.19 - +250kiB -> 6.0 - +420kiB -> 6.3.0 - -8kiB -> 6.3.2 That is without any user configurable settings, except the compiler version, changing. That final decrease in size also coincided with GCC upgrading from 12.2 to 13.1.
@Dankmanwhodied
@Dankmanwhodied 3 ай бұрын
The astolfo figurine makes this video 1000x better
@nemysus2280
@nemysus2280 4 ай бұрын
You are the guy who randomly have a conversation about operating systems in that Microsoft survey.
@KnucklesfanVideos
@KnucklesfanVideos 4 ай бұрын
This channel is such a gem dude, why does this have so few views? Also, can we get a KDE plasma config guide? Love the vintage mac aesthetic
@blitzsturm7
@blitzsturm7 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@TheSimoc
@TheSimoc 4 ай бұрын
Yes, we need to advertise this more
@Afrotechmods
@Afrotechmods 4 ай бұрын
If you are into this sort of thing there is also a 1.44mb QNX demo disk from the late 90s
@amogustroll69
@amogustroll69 3 ай бұрын
HOLY DINGUS YOU'RE ALIVE
@a120068020
@a120068020 2 ай бұрын
I remember this - it was touted as the next Amiga OS or something. Not sure how that would have worked with the endianness.
@MisterFrodo
@MisterFrodo 4 ай бұрын
man, something about that "this is not a drill" picture broke me. reminded me of how simple humor was back in the day. great vid man, might check this out on some old pc i got just lyin around
@Lukas-qy2on
@Lukas-qy2on 4 ай бұрын
There's something surreal about watching a nerdy computer topic, and being hearing the occasional "fUCK", surpringsingly funny haha
@wiegraf9009
@wiegraf9009 4 ай бұрын
Given the reliability of computers in the 90s I can assure you their use was usually accompanied by the word "Fuck"
@8ullfrog
@8ullfrog 4 ай бұрын
You get a like just for that Aptiva. My Grandpa gave me his Aptiva when he was done with it, but then my aunt sold it at a garage sale. Thankfully it only had old games on it.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Ай бұрын
the fact that is has so much crap on it and it's 1.44 megs in size is just amazing when you think about it🤣🤣🤣
@davidrmcmahon
@davidrmcmahon 4 ай бұрын
NT4 has the best startup sound.
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka 4 ай бұрын
Amen
@dim0n1
@dim0n1 4 ай бұрын
I still have win 95 startup and shutdown sounds on my w10 pc :D :D :D
@michaelcallummayaka
@michaelcallummayaka 4 ай бұрын
@@dim0n1 I had NT startup on Windows 11 till an update removed it. Time to do it again but with the shutdown sound too this time.
@herrbonk3635
@herrbonk3635 4 ай бұрын
No sound is the best startup sound. It shouldn't be needed! The "os" should be ready the same second you flip the on/off-switch, just like on a calculator, or any general appliances.
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 2 ай бұрын
Ubuntu 8.10 was even better. Those drums man.
@viacheslavronenko7278
@viacheslavronenko7278 4 ай бұрын
Stumbled into it in around 2007, and it was very impressive even then, asm coders are into some magic.
@3zzzTyle
@3zzzTyle 4 ай бұрын
I trust this guy about computers because he's an Astolfo enjoyer.
@henryfleischer404
@henryfleischer404 4 ай бұрын
Oh, that's the figurine! I should really get into Fate one of these days.
@ukemi-
@ukemi- 4 ай бұрын
everyone knows you need soft, small, feminine hands to work on computers
@mirai5268
@mirai5268 4 ай бұрын
@@ukemi- why would you say that...
@scrung
@scrung 4 ай бұрын
@@mirai5268👈 do we tell him?
@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7
@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7 4 ай бұрын
​@@mirai5268it's facts
@treelibrarian7618
@treelibrarian7618 4 ай бұрын
this reminds me of a system I tried out back in late 1999 (I forget the name), that was a whole GUI OS with all basic w95-type features on a 1.44Mb floppy - included a webserver as well as browser, I think it was a commercial project aimed at embedded systems before there was a word for that... made use of the fact it was a whole unified project so all functions in the code could be reused across all apps and OS features, no repetitions.
@flinkdeldinky
@flinkdeldinky 4 ай бұрын
Maybe you're thinking of GEOS (I think it changed ownership and is now called Breadbox).
@jengelenm
@jengelenm 4 ай бұрын
You confused me, because GEOS is for Commodore. What you’re talking about is PC/GEOS. Luckily there wiki to factcheck :)
@nicholascampbell3259
@nicholascampbell3259 4 ай бұрын
It's probably a demo of the QNX operating system, as other comments have mentioned. Try searching for "QNX 1.44MB" for more information about it.
@skycaptain95
@skycaptain95 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like QNX.
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo
@breadtheloaf-tr1lo 3 ай бұрын
BeOS? I'm probably wrong
@Sky-qd2jm
@Sky-qd2jm 4 ай бұрын
love the video style. impressive how much they can do with so little
@darqv9358
@darqv9358 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving in the NT startup sound. that shit is ORGASMIC
@Robospidera1
@Robospidera1 4 ай бұрын
This is quite cool.. I’ve always been inspired as a kid I’d write small programs and applications with code a lot because you can save alot of storage space and have a program run really fast on slower systems. I remember back in high school teachers were very interested in my web browser I made that was only around 500 to 600 bites in size.
@leandroschmidt1292
@leandroschmidt1292 4 ай бұрын
a webbrowser with 600 bytes?
@Robospidera1
@Robospidera1 4 ай бұрын
@@leandroschmidt1292 only took up like 600 bits of storage
@wobogoat3379
@wobogoat3379 4 ай бұрын
​@@leandroschmidt1292he wrote bits. That's only around 70 to 80 bytes.
@lollixd6580
@lollixd6580 4 ай бұрын
​ curl url system.out.print 😂😂
@deltakid0
@deltakid0 4 ай бұрын
​@@leandroschmidt1292no, he wrote _bites_ which means the browser bites everyone who's trying to get closer to it, like a dog or something
@tessjdt
@tessjdt 4 ай бұрын
QNX is another real-time embedded OS that has a full feature GUI and network stack and sits on a 1.44mb floppy. They were purchased by Palm then Blackberry. A lot of automation uses this OS as well as Nasa.
@adamholmes740
@adamholmes740 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate the pause in speech to admire the WinNT startup sound ❤
@ancipital
@ancipital 4 ай бұрын
QNX done a unix based GUI demo on a floppy disk back in 1999 - when windows came on something like 38 floppy disks! They done it as a demo of ultra small real time operating systems for embedded systems.
@ancipital
@ancipital 4 ай бұрын
@@fadate7292 To be fair - in 1999 the majority of people still had dial up networking! DSL broadband started to get more widespread from 2002 onwards, for instance, in 2002, there were only around 200,000 DSL subscribers in the UK. I was one of the early adopters with demon internet and I managed to get it before the product had been offically launched via their owner company Thus literally within a week of the equipment being installed in my local exchange
@leency
@leency 4 ай бұрын
I was there... trying QNX on a floppy. A million years away.
@nicholascampbell3259
@nicholascampbell3259 4 ай бұрын
I remember trying this out back in the late 1990s, with the tagline, "Take the 1.44MB Surf Challenge!" - back when people still referred to "surfing" the Internet. 😆 I thought it was cool at the time to fit an OS on to a single floppy disk. In fact, I think I still have the disk somewhere in my collection...
@Tuvazeock
@Tuvazeock 3 ай бұрын
I really liked QNX. I still have the install archived.
@FoxMacLeod2501
@FoxMacLeod2501 4 ай бұрын
The numbered squares in Minesweeper tell you how many mines are touching those squares. It's not actually a guessing game, for the most part. "Start with the corners" is the kind of approach that makes me think this is probably novel information. Cheers.
@karpilin
@karpilin 4 ай бұрын
Most of the info in this video is "start with the corners" level. I'm glad that kids are playing with old stuff, but lack of context is almost insulting.😢
@amrkoptan4041
@amrkoptan4041 3 ай бұрын
please don't stop, love your channel and videos
@alh-xj6gt
@alh-xj6gt 3 ай бұрын
thank you for bringing both OSes to my attention. these are awesome projects. maybe I finally push my fear away of directly coding in assembly and just go for it. Both projects seem to have an emphasis on ease of programming within it, which to my mind is just perfect. simple and easy enough seems just perfect.
@wes773105333
@wes773105333 4 ай бұрын
I had a kolibriOS floppy back when I was in highschool. It was cool to play around with when I was taking a Computer Maintenance class.
@mhmtse
@mhmtse 4 ай бұрын
This is great content and also a great nostalgia for me as an old IT guy thank you bro!
@consciousape
@consciousape 3 ай бұрын
this whole setup is so cool bro, cheers
@Astolfo-wk8ci
@Astolfo-wk8ci 4 ай бұрын
Nice video 10/10. Also, i love your Pop Up Parade Astolfo figurine! ♥
@WaterLex
@WaterLex 4 ай бұрын
this was the comment i was looking for, somehow i managed to be impressed by there being one but then i thought a bit more and remembered the guy is a linux user lmao
@KoopstaKlicca
@KoopstaKlicca 4 ай бұрын
​@@WaterLexthere are two types of Linux users: 1) weebs 2) Luke Smith luddites 💀
@Astolfo-wk8ci
@Astolfo-wk8ci 4 ай бұрын
@@WaterLex Good point! That would explain mine aswell, haha.
@rangeramg
@rangeramg 3 ай бұрын
​@@KoopstaKliccahow about both
@loliraki
@loliraki 3 ай бұрын
​@@WaterLexI think he is wearing programming socks too... UwU
@erwinvb70
@erwinvb70 4 ай бұрын
That’s so impressive. This os might come in handy sometime
@calculatechaos
@calculatechaos 4 ай бұрын
ccol vid. I appreciate the format and straight forwardness instead of trying to be like everyone else on KZfaq
@DepsRoads
@DepsRoads 3 ай бұрын
The astolfo at 1:58 . what a man of culture
@johnbillings5260
@johnbillings5260 4 ай бұрын
I'm definitely running this in QEMU on my phone. I'm going to be productive as hell.
@TacitMarmot27121yt
@TacitMarmot27121yt 4 ай бұрын
how tf do you have qemu on a phone
@johnbillings5260
@johnbillings5260 4 ай бұрын
@@TacitMarmot27121yt Limbo is based on QEMU. I've run up to Windows 98 on it.
@jkarra2334
@jkarra2334 4 ай бұрын
​@@TacitMarmot27121ytby not using iPhone?😂 I have Windows/macOS and Linux installers on my phone, Also carrying my macOS bootable Image on my (Android) phone. Qemu works fine under Android, there are few apps for that, Even straight from Google
@attilavs2
@attilavs2 4 ай бұрын
@@TacitMarmot27121yt If he has a Pinephone it's 100% possible, and otherwise i don't know exactly but there are package managers for Android and stuff
@user-om5es2zp7k
@user-om5es2zp7k 3 ай бұрын
​@@TacitMarmot27121yt Termux, termux is the answer of everything
@boredSoloDev
@boredSoloDev 4 ай бұрын
Idk why, but when the windows NT noise played I just smiled. It was one of the first OS's I had on my first computer, I was 14ish and it was all mine. We had a family pc but I managed to get my very own. Just reminds me of better times
@danvasicek4122
@danvasicek4122 4 ай бұрын
This chanel is great, I am glad I discovered this.
@lightyagami3492
@lightyagami3492 Ай бұрын
1:20 I dont think ill ever get over how majestic the startup music for NT 4.0 is.
@b00gi3
@b00gi3 4 ай бұрын
"One night I was hanging out with a couple of friends just looking at a bunch of operating systems". ...Wish I had pals like yours. Great review. I heard that early slackware was like this. Fitted on a floppy, did everything. There are videos on yt of Aboriginal Linux working on 386s playing mp3s over SSH from a remote server. 0__0
@WaifusOnOldNokias
@WaifusOnOldNokias 4 ай бұрын
lol this is an interesting find. love seeing limited electronic stuff being pushed to their absolute extremes XD
@malcador
@malcador 4 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you letting the song play when NT booted. I miss this era of computing more than I can really articulate.
@nplsm
@nplsm 4 күн бұрын
very minor detail but im glad someone acknowledges VECTOR GRAPHIC's music, great choice for bgm especially for this type of video!
@TheTwober
@TheTwober 2 ай бұрын
_Pausing for the NT bootup sound_ Normal people: wtf? IT people: _brief moment of happiness_
@fa1nnt
@fa1nnt 4 ай бұрын
you are going places im so proud of you
@stepheneickhoff4953
@stepheneickhoff4953 4 ай бұрын
1:27 Thanks for that audio blast from the past
@chanukanadun
@chanukanadun 12 күн бұрын
Good stuff man keep it up.
@stitchingsteve
@stitchingsteve 4 ай бұрын
What an insanely neat project. I think those cpu eating 3d renders were part of the benchmark and gpu test tools inside of early windows, like win 95??. Somehow they seem familiar, the old man had many like it back then. The voodoo 3d benchmarks were fun to watch (I was just a kid)
@davidboss2160
@davidboss2160 4 ай бұрын
"we are using 100% cpu usage rendering a fucking cube" that is by far the FUNNIEST sentence i have ever heard.
@0netom
@0netom 4 ай бұрын
Well, the goal of MenuetOS is to provide a programming environment, where you are not constrained by tons of accidental complexity, like garbage collector, complex graphics drivers, multi-user permission systems, etc. It gives you a similar experience as ZX Spectrum, Atari, Commodore 64 and Amiga gave, but on more modern hardware.
@humanharddrive1
@humanharddrive1 4 ай бұрын
just discovered this channel, great vibes
@the3boys2s74
@the3boys2s74 4 ай бұрын
I love vintage electronics especially vintage, audio equipment from the 90s to early 2000s my fav brand right now is Sony and yes before you ask I have a Walkman I have 3,there not cassette tho it’s a format release in 1992 called mini disc,it lasted until 2014 when support was ended so it had a long run the last one they made is the rh1 in 2006. Also mini disc has its own emoji on the iPhone 💽
@keeper__88_
@keeper__88_ 4 ай бұрын
I have several sony equipment as well. A minidisk player, a stereo system for my old iPod, headphones, a camera. And same as you I love vintage equipment.
@ausoundTM
@ausoundTM 4 ай бұрын
Having two Thinkpads, one from the elder era with ibm(2003), and one newer from Lenovo (2008)
@Adam_M13
@Adam_M13 4 ай бұрын
I watched all of your videos . I really enjoy them. And your soo cool .
@LorenzoLopezVillalobos-sl5hn
@LorenzoLopezVillalobos-sl5hn 3 ай бұрын
So happy I found this channel ❤
@gercekbko
@gercekbko 4 ай бұрын
Nice video! Also Astoflo looks nice!
@ComeonmenID10T
@ComeonmenID10T 4 ай бұрын
reminds me on the good old Amiga Workbench 3.2, lots of things you could do from a minimal OS
@archdebiangentoo
@archdebiangentoo 4 ай бұрын
of course astolfo is there
@plapbandit
@plapbandit 4 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ, and I thought Puppy was small for a modern distro. (~250mb ISO about 5 years ago, about ~400mb for todays images) But this is genuinely insane. Props to the KolibriOS devs for doing the unthinkable
@andrejaga3003
@andrejaga3003 4 ай бұрын
I've given up on Puppy and am now using Porteus 5.01 LXQt. There's too much extra software in Puppy that I don't need. It is problematic to remove it.
@GeekTherapyRadio
@GeekTherapyRadio 3 ай бұрын
100% trying this on my 286 Deskpro. Awesome vid!
@asir9129
@asir9129 3 ай бұрын
the Astolfo figure lol
@mattparker9726
@mattparker9726 4 ай бұрын
5:17 I was thinking "oh cool, old computers!" Then I looked to the right.... WEEEEEEEEEEEEEB! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joel06sk
@joel06sk 4 ай бұрын
Love the Astolfo figure on the desk!
@QuantumImperfections
@QuantumImperfections 4 ай бұрын
In a world of constant memory / storage creep for every single feature release one of my new favorite video categories on KZfaq has become "I optimize / they optimize / see this crazy optimization". Every programmer I know wants... no CRAVES to be so good at programming they do incredible feats such as this but there's always budget / time restraints to hold them back. This KolibriOS experiement is everything I wish I could create. Something straight and to the point + usable.
@DomiaAbrWyrda
@DomiaAbrWyrda 4 ай бұрын
This is amazing! So much in so little
@Jarikraider
@Jarikraider 3 ай бұрын
The eventual update to 1.45MBs is going to fracture the community.
@youxtubexisxgay
@youxtubexisxgay 4 ай бұрын
My entire career revolves around doing more with software with fewer resources, so I am very impressed! For those who are curious, one of the advantages the OS engineer has on a PC platform is the VGA BIOS ROM. That opening screen that said "ATI RADEON" was the VGA bios in the graphics card, which handles all text render and setting up a framebuffer for the OS to use. Essentially it needs no graphics driver other than standard VESA calls to set resolution, and to understand the BIOS telling the OS what address to write to the framebuffer. If this were a non-PC platform, then there would have had to be some extra room on that floppy for a graphics driver specific to that platform.
@connorruss5976
@connorruss5976 4 ай бұрын
Written in assembly, of course it will be optimised. No wasted instruction cycles
@mikehibbett3301
@mikehibbett3301 3 ай бұрын
Thank you :) Actually it's not as simple as that. We made it small, but being fast is a different problem. It was not fast loading webpages. But for us, that was ok
@htcbelyaev
@htcbelyaev 4 ай бұрын
i'm looking about kolibri for years. that's absolutely amazing project, that needs more investitions, just to show how good programs optimization can be
@havenpell
@havenpell 3 ай бұрын
awesome work on that demo. it was like watching a movie trailer
@TroubleSeekerTeam
@TroubleSeekerTeam 3 ай бұрын
quite fun to watch
@Claym1x
@Claym1x 4 ай бұрын
This OS is literally smaller than some of the pictures my professional grade camera spits out, this is amazing
@dattatreyadinda
@dattatreyadinda 3 ай бұрын
I have this type of computer in my room but I was not using it but after watching this video I am going to revive it by installing this OS. Thank you
@Tex777_
@Tex777_ 4 ай бұрын
At first I thought this was going to be a video about someone who rediscovered Menuet, but it's cool to see someone made a fork and updated it!
@shadrYT
@shadrYT 4 ай бұрын
Now this is what I want to watch on KZfaq
@imark7777777
@imark7777777 4 ай бұрын
MenuetOS hahaha that's funny I immediately saw the title and thought I wonder if this is related. Apparently it is. I believe I found out about the operating system from TechTV theScreensavers or call for help. Never quite could quite get it working right but it did run. Then there was an update and I could never get that running and then never got back to it. Well that's cool that it's expanded and been built upon. The idea at the time was quite crazy! A 1.4MB OS!
@NostalgiaTechLounge
@NostalgiaTechLounge 4 ай бұрын
This is so awesome, I have to check it out myself!
@dizzarty
@dizzarty 4 ай бұрын
YASSSS Cosmic Osmo background. subscribed!
@Anubis1101
@Anubis1101 4 ай бұрын
probably need to install codecs to play video the codec package alone could be larger than the OS
@kabuokis
@kabuokis 4 ай бұрын
eyy Lithuanian made in : 0:57
@paulwarner5395
@paulwarner5395 3 ай бұрын
Nice video. I remember back in the late 90s put QNX OS on to a bootable floppy and it worked fine. QNX used to be used on Centigram voicemail systems that I supported.
@mememe37
@mememe37 4 ай бұрын
nn activity got me lol, nice video mate!
@clochard4074
@clochard4074 4 ай бұрын
May I ask you what DE are you using at the start? I love the System 7 look, reminds me of my iMac G3!
@football_fanapril2048
@football_fanapril2048 2 ай бұрын
i was wondering too
@DankManDanny
@DankManDanny 4 ай бұрын
Great vid mate!
@thatrandomzero
@thatrandomzero 4 ай бұрын
This is great idea as a hardware debug tool for any custom builds too that have taken either damage from accident or failure too if it can still be detected and boot.
@Longlius
@Longlius 3 ай бұрын
I remember using Menuet in like 2003 as a curiosity. I was pretty impressed with what it could do for only 1.44 MB.
@michaelkeller5008
@michaelkeller5008 4 ай бұрын
Damn - been so long since i've heard the NT4-Workstation-Introsound... Ah, the memorys :) Also KolibriOS (btw Kolibri - like the bird, not co-libri ;) is very neatly done :) Giving me the feeling of "tombsrbtn just with GUI". :)
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