A MUCH NEEDED BALANCE TO THE TITHING DEBATE

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11 ай бұрын

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@samueldavis5141 11 ай бұрын

Five Pillars of Balance 1. Correct Information 2. Complete information 3. Correct application 4. Correct emphasis 5. Correct priority

@pwanidonsunday8652 11 ай бұрын

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@tamiausten873 11 ай бұрын

Even if tithe is not compulsory, I'm still going pay because I need to have a percentage of my earnings that I won't eat . Discipline is important, God doesn't like stingy people. It's not even about the reward, I need it for my soul, can be like the rich fool; I, myself, me, my , mine🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️. Let God take the 10% .

@ChiomaChinedu714 9 ай бұрын

Don't pay only 10% ,make sure you fulfill all other laws given by Moses.

@bartman386 7 ай бұрын

When Jesus died on the cross, he died for all. Even the stingy people. The NT has no verse that the church need to tithe 10%. The OT does, along with whole other list of laws to follow. My question are we still under the law??

@tamiausten873 7 ай бұрын

@@ChiomaChinedu714 good point though. Me paying tithe is a way for me to be used to giving. Funny enough, the new testament prescribes 100% , give your all. At least 10% is an attempt and shouldn't be forced by the church, let everyone grow with God

@jayaustin1939 7 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠@@tamiausten873The new testament does not demand 100%. 2 Cor.9:7 prescribes how Christians should give. Simple.

@SelwynSlamdill-he8yh 5 ай бұрын

You sound like a pharisee ..wanting to be praised by men and not depending on the finished work of Christ i have good news for you ...Jesus said it is finished

@iniobongmoses2508 11 ай бұрын

I don't give just to be blessed, I give because I am blessed!! Thank you sir🙌🔥

@phemmie_voiceofasaphbakkie5419 10 ай бұрын

God bless Iren. I am proud and happy that in the midst of the confusion of the time there are younger ministers who truly understand the scripture and possess the Spirit of God to say it the way it is. Selah

@chrislite9804 11 ай бұрын

Giving to receive more has encouraged covetousness. That one hit me. People have become lovers of money instead of treating money like it’s less important.

@michelleenkhsaikhan 5 ай бұрын

Exactly! In fact I want to leave church because of this

@YourstrulyMo_ 11 ай бұрын

Correct information Complete information Correct application Correct emphasis Correct priority Thank you sir!

@mechanizedcivilengineering4735 10 ай бұрын

Correct Information Complete Information (not half truths) Correct Application Correct Emphasis Correct Priority

@indsmind7475 11 ай бұрын

This was a powerful message, in that it was literally screaming at me 😂😂😂 We learn so much consecration from our parents. The doctrines may not always be "scripturally accurate" but omo their devotion to it ehnnn...

@tamiausten873 11 ай бұрын

13:49 it's like the father in Purple Hibiscus; Eugene was a "sponsor/partner" in his church but his sister was struggling. His father 🤦🏾‍♀️ was neglected because he wasn't a christian, he didn't realize that caring for his dad would have won him to Jesus, probably because he wasn't really saved himself 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

@nanakauffmannakoakpah5876 11 ай бұрын

This is the most balanced teaching I have ever heard about tithing and giving. Thank you so much Apostle

@flamingfirenetwork 10 ай бұрын

Myles munroe have a perspective I will never forget Jesus brought the kingdom to earth and Jesus first message was (repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand) He furthered that by saying that every kingdom have laws(Bible in our case) every kingdom pay tax (tithing ) every citizen of the kingdom worship the king(human created for His pleasure) I will stop here

@olalekanadewale4967 6 ай бұрын

@@flamingfirenetworkFrom Myles point of view. Quite a reasonable point of view I admit, But definitely not the absolute. Christ brought the kingdom earth but he said absolutely nothing about tithes. Food for thought, if tithe was essential to the kingdom, don't you think the one person that brought the kingdom would have at least mentioned it. Maybe tax, sorry tithe was never really meant for the true children of the kingdom, just as royalties like Prince Charles, now King Charles and his descendants are not liable to pay tax. Not so sure about his descendants but I bet Charles himself doesn't pay taxes. Because he himself is the collector. My point is this, we can't always go off on the revelation or insight that some of this so called Men of God has, because revelation/insight are often time personal. I personally prefer allowing God and Christ himself to reveal stuff to me.

@olalekanadewale4967 6 ай бұрын

@@flamingfirenetwork From Myles perspective, Quite a reasonable perspective but definitely not absolute. Christ brought the kingdom, but if tithe/tax was that essential to the kingdom, why didn't the one that brought the kingdom mentioned anything regarding it? Maybe it's because taxes/tithe weren't really meant for us the Kings, Princes to start with. Remember we are all Kings and Princes, Prince Charles, now King Charles and his descendants are not liable to pay tax. Not so sure about his descendants but I bet Charles himself doesn't pay taxes. Because he himself is the collector. My point is this, we can't always go off on the revelation or insight that some of this so called Men of God has, because revelation/insight are often time personal. I personally prefer allowing God and Christ himself to reveal stuff to me.

@flamingfirenetwork 6 ай бұрын

@@olalekanadewale4967 I really appreciate your feedbacks, I will give just a scripture to support this. Matt 23:23 (Jeesus was the onee speaking heree, not any other person ) Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to LEAVEE THE OTHER UNDONE What Jesus was saying here is that the Pharisee elevated things that doesn’t transcend beyond this realm and have neglected the weightier matters. Your faith transcends beyond your death (Faith in thee son of GOD, By faith through grace ), so is your judgement(judge and he not be judged) and mercy: Matt 25: 35. -40. Now your tithing and giving doeesnt transcend beyound this realm. As long as thee earth remains, seed time and harveest, sowing and reeaping. eetc. Your tithe doesnt save you, nor does it have consequence afteer this age. so Jesus was saying here that thee pharisees emphasize what doesnt have eternal significance over what have eteernal significance. Since Jesus himself did not reproof tithing. Tithing is not wrong However, the eneew testament beeliever is supposed to give. liberally because we give becaused we are bleessed, not because we aree mandated. so our proof of giveen is a proof of blessing. so wheen we dont give. its a sign we are showing that GOD doesnt bless us. To wrap it all, if you tithe, its fine, if you dont, its fine also. but the life of a new testament beeliever is not to be confined to thee 10% but rather grow to a point wheree he/she can give all, beecause, we only give because we are now blessed not because of the law

@sindiswaluthuli1178 5 ай бұрын

Sooooo balanced. I love it🙌 Glory to Jesus 🙌

@precious_diamondajala5985 11 ай бұрын

Correct information. Complete information. Correct application. Correct Emphasis. Correct Priority.

@giftangelaifeyi 11 ай бұрын

I'm at the right place. Thank you so much sir. Alot of people mix up the giving you to poor as their own tithe. It should be both. Church and giving the the poor are separate and should be done. Thank you for enlightening us.

@adeola3805 11 ай бұрын

Am blessed by this message by the first few minutes

@inaciadiaz7366 11 ай бұрын

Tithing was with food. One of the reason for tithing was for the Levite priests because they were not giving land. They were the LORD’s priest. They lived in the temple. Another reason was to help the widows and the Fatherless. Tithing was the old Laws under the old covenant. The book of James says if you break 1 law you break them all. In the New Testament God said this, 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 New American Standard Bible 6 Now I say this: (A)the one who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the one who sows [a]generously will also reap [b]generously. 7 Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not (B)reluctantly or under compulsion, for (C)God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And (D)God is able to make all grace overflow to you, so that, always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed; Under the law you had to give over 10% that was the Law. Now we give what our hearts tells us to give. God was very big about giving to the poor . At times some of pastors are using and richer and richer off your so called tithing money. Remember Levites did not receive land, some of pastors hit homes that are so big brand name clothes while the people are struggling. God also warns us about these wolves and how they will use the word of God and use the people for money. I don’t know these pastor so I am calling him a wolf.

@berachtheblessed 11 ай бұрын

Visiting people with gifts is such a wholesome and blessed quality to possess. And it can be learnt.

@tinaonwuocha463 10 ай бұрын

God will bless the remaining 90% n guard it. He will open the windows of Heaven onto you. He said bring it into the store house so He will bless you. In the New Testament they bring everything to the house of God. Remember Ananayas n Sophias tried to keep some back n prophecy dropped n they dropped dead. You will still go to Heaven if you don’t pay tithe. But when you pay, God promised that in blessing He will bless us. You will not be cursed if you don’t pay tithe n will still go to Heaven. This is a powerful message n cautiously delivered.

@ElysianCreed-qz1tb 9 ай бұрын

Under 16 minutes... I learnt more than I could ever have imagined. This is meat. Deep teachings... God bless you pastey.

@michaelmerck7576 5 ай бұрын

He is still misusing the scriptures

@AndrewsTitheReview 7 ай бұрын

Tithing is biblical. We are compelled by love to give generously beyond %10.

@sunesis101 11 ай бұрын

Pst Emmanuel has always been big on BALANCE. Thank you sir.

@tamiausten873 11 ай бұрын

7:15 Paste has proved that he's not a Gen Z pastor; he's a pastor, period.❤🎉

@soalanissiawoala2976 11 ай бұрын

Such an expository teaching 🔥🔥The motive of our hearts should always be checked

@precious_diamondajala5985 11 ай бұрын

I don't give to be blessed. I give because I am blessed

@fodogbo 8 күн бұрын

Very good explanation about giving. Great teaching indeed!

@Exceptional_Graciee 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Dad! Thank you for always teaching us God's Word with so much clarity and precision. Love you so much Dad!

@YAOF290 10 ай бұрын

Such a balance sir. Generosity is a lifestyle every believer must earnestly covet.

@Favoured16 9 ай бұрын

I give because I'm blessed ❤😊

@blossomukam5527 11 ай бұрын

Sound teaching! The body of Christ is so blessed in this age having gifts like Pst Iren.

@ifelolaolaleye8396 11 ай бұрын

This is just beautiful ❤

@JoeNat7 11 ай бұрын

This is so profound. God bless you Pastor Iren. ❤

@Ransamie 11 ай бұрын

Very true Sir. These consecrations just help to create a posture of the heart, not necessarily a LAW!!!

@yetundetunde6782 11 ай бұрын

"Put your money where your faith is"

@asandasompali5945 11 ай бұрын

I am so blessed ❤🙏

@gwadimadwatte 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Pastey!

@The_Mirus 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Dad for the way you teach us the truth. I am way more in love with Jesus and Christianity now than I was before i met you.

@lkfx47 11 ай бұрын

Thank You Sir! I needed this

@Abeautifulday210 Ай бұрын

Thank you so much❤❤❤

@ndianau 11 ай бұрын

Tithe paying or soliciting is an insult to the blood of the new covenant and plain unrighteousness outside the realm of faith. We can’t tip or trip God, He gave us 100% and he owns it all. We give as we have been given , freely. And asking him daily for His will and aligning our will with His. Tithe was a grain Offering and an old ordinance , Christ Jesus, abolished those laws and encourages us to live in love and give of ourselves sacrificially for our familia. If you love God , almost 100% of your expenses will go to kingdom uses. Not a single selfish purchase . Includes keeping your word to Pay ur rent , or give to caeser what is his. ( the tax man , firs etc) . Our kingdom is not built on mammon and it should never be a priority to be preached on a pulpit. Every move of the kingdom on earth is provided for by God and sons of men like us walking in obedience and being angels to ecclesia. Will of God be done through us , kingdom of God come through us , to us and for us! If Christ on earth was silent on something and the apostles didn’t teach it, on who’s authority Are we commanding tithes? And agriculturally themed offering from the Old Testament. Every need of the church is met by the church with the coordination of its leadership , we give freely as we have received freely. It is even sin to preach an old ordinance that Christ outlawed.

@prettygemini3432 Ай бұрын

I fully understand your sentiment. However you might want to revise your biblical knowledge on tithing. The concept of tithing was not started under the Moses law. It was done in the days of Abraham meeting the high priest Melchizedek, in whose order Jesus falls under. This happened way before God gave the laws to Moses. And Jesus did in fact speak on tithing and encouraged us to pay it. Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42. Nonetheless I understand that tithing under the law, the version of tithing that strictly takes 10% and which is punishable if unpaid is abolished. This does not take away the fact that tithing is indeed pleasing to God. As new testament believers out starting point is 10% and we are supposed to increase it as God increases us. Tithing is not just done "when you feel like it".

@damiloladaisy 11 ай бұрын

The weightier matters, loving God, your motive in giving!! Thank you Pasteyyy

@motiladeoladejo6119 Ай бұрын

Finally, someone preaching the true word of God on giving! Thank you sir 🙏

@berachtheblessed 11 ай бұрын

Weightier matters!!! And, love. Meeehn, this is so rich. Thank you sir!

@veteranJUGGERNAUT1 10 ай бұрын

Thank you sir for this!

@oghenofuafoajari2489 11 ай бұрын

Thank you sir!!

@lodel 10 ай бұрын

We can never replace consecration with giving and tithing... the state of the heart matters... ❤ the most unbiased sermon and tithing and giving... i just subscribed ❤

@sopekingsley2621 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Pastey ❤️. This teaching never gets old.

@The_Acts_of_The_Bible 11 ай бұрын

What a Revelational balance🙌🏾 Thank you so much Sir🙏🏾🙏🏾💙💙💙💙

@IfeoluwaJ 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Pastey for this extremely timely teaching. I’m beyond blessed and honored to receive this and to be able to share it

@supremeblix 11 ай бұрын

Am so blessed to hear this

@Enis.foodhub 8 ай бұрын

Watched this twice! Thank you sir for a refresh

@abrahamariyo9516 11 ай бұрын

Powerful Exposition. Thank you my pastor

@Queues123 10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@victoradeniji4554 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this Pastey ❤❤️❤️

@Ps.Bediako-Trader 11 ай бұрын

There seem to be stirring in the Spirit On Tithing and Giving. This is such a Timely teaching. God bless you. I pray we all gain clarity wisdom and understanding.

@annondemand6607 10 ай бұрын

WOW! this is golden teaching. Thank you!

@tobiwonder 11 ай бұрын

So profound 🔥 Thank you so much Apostle

@sundayodunuga2022 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Sir.

@PastorBM 11 ай бұрын

Thank you my Apostle ! Too much SANITY !!!

@soremekunsamson9409 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Apostle.

@ImmanuelOluwanifise 11 ай бұрын

Powerful. Thank you, FATHER, for teachers like this!

@domshaksunday1024 11 ай бұрын

Thank you sir.

@uchechiogba 11 ай бұрын

God bless you sir!!

@victoryadeniyii 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much daddy❤

@Falonabukunmi 10 ай бұрын

Thank too so much Apostle. This is eye opening.

@oghenesueariemuduigho8784 11 ай бұрын

Wow! This needs to get to more people.

@okolocharenald4796 10 ай бұрын

God bless you sir for this enlightening ❤

@victorifeanyichukwu119 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for this teaching Pastey. Glory to God!

@nuelabiama 11 ай бұрын

Rightly dividing the word of Truth. ❤❤❤

@dessysings 11 ай бұрын

Wow! This teaching has opened my heart to a lot! Thank you, Pastey! ❤

@egfmfountain1 10 ай бұрын

@oluwakemidorcas8873 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, Apostle, for this teaching. I pray to be a Doer and not a Hearer alone in Jesus' name. Amen

@sunnyemmanuel2858 11 ай бұрын

Thanks papa for this self examination.

@lawlawson2823 11 ай бұрын

I've never ever heard it like that before..... amazing

@emmanuelademuwagun3798 11 ай бұрын

My heart is filled with so much joy.

@oluwasegunphilip5467 11 ай бұрын

🙏🏿🙇🏿‍♂️ I hear, Apostle 🙇🏿‍♂️Thank you so much Sir.

@stephentackie8093 11 ай бұрын

Wow, just wow....the clarity is just refreshing

@realitylabtv342 11 ай бұрын

This is a balanced message Thank God i came across this. Im blessed

@ibiiyethikan8800 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing,

@GRACE-ICHIE 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Pasteyyy❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

@chancesnkurumah5318 11 ай бұрын

God bless you sir for this teaching.

@collinshaurabiu3107 11 ай бұрын

Thank you Pasteyy💕💕💕💕 May God bless you

@promiseeniola 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for this Pastey😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️

@lawaltoyosi1784 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much sir for helping me clear some of the questions in my heart.

@millerifetv6369 11 ай бұрын

Wow,sir thank you

@noel.o 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Apostle. I’m throughly blessed by this sir.

@AjayiGraceFolayemi 11 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Pastor Sir...I have been enlightened

@Simi_Sho 11 ай бұрын

❤❤🙏🏼🙏🏼. I'm sharing this everywhere ☺️

@damilolaanifowoshe310 11 ай бұрын

This is Accuracy and Balance! Thank you, sir.

@tbaiyewu 10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot pastor. This is deep.

@Odiaabel1563 11 ай бұрын

Wow! Great teaching. You spoke my mind and the message has also charged me in a way. We are all victims of this teaching if we are sincere enough to critically examine ourselves.