A New 28mm King??? | Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II Review with the Leica M10

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A New 28mm King??? | Voigtlander 28mm Ultron II Review with the Leica M10

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3 жыл бұрын

Is there a new 28mm King?!? The Voigtlander 28mm f/2 Ultron II Really shocked me with how well It performed, especially after I wasn’t that stoked on the original version.
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@bradl2636 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve sold three Leica lenses, replaced them with the Voigtlander 28/2, 35/2, 50/1.5, 75/1.5 and have enough coin left over for 3 months in Japan and 3 months in Europe as soon as we get back to some normality. Voigtlander is killing it. I’m getting close to selling my Noctilux… it might happen.

@johnkasianowicz6536 Жыл бұрын

I tested three Voigtländer M lenses (Super Wide-Heliar 15 mm f/4.5; Color-Skopar 21 mm f/3.5; & Nokton Classic 35 mm f/1.4) on my Leica SL2 and CL cameras (the the Leica M to L adapter), but sold them because they were a bit too soft and had a bit too much chromatic aberration. My Leica Summilux-M 35 mm f/1.4 FLE (much more expensive) was optically superior. That said, I’m eager to try a Voigtländer-M APO-Lanthar 50 mm f/2 and a few other of their lenses on those cameras and my M11. I’m curious to see if the 35 mm f/1.4 Classic II is superior to the original version, yet lends a more vintage look than the Leica 35 FLE.

@magiccarpetrider4594 Жыл бұрын

I just sold a 50 Nokton 1.2 after 1 month for a Summilux 50 1.4. I returned a new VM 90 APO Lanthar with bad back-focus for a 90 Summarit 2.5. I sold 3- Canon mounts (20, 28, 40) a decade ago. On the other hand I’ve only ever sold 1 Zeiss. If I have to stop down 3-4 to get clean edges, I’m out.

@bradl2636 Жыл бұрын

@@magiccarpetrider4594 🤣🤣🤣

@UncleMichaelable Жыл бұрын

@@johnkasianowicz6536it is doubtful that it is ten times as superior, though.

@americansemiotics 3 жыл бұрын

I have a Nikkor 50mm LTM lens from the 1950s that focuses to .5m. It has a "click" stop when you hit .7m on the focus before you go past the rangefinder coupling. Its amazing to me that a lens that old has an obvious improvement over lenses today, which obviously have close focus to make them more useful on mirrorless.

@nevanonprofit 3 жыл бұрын

Entirely agree that CV has really stepped their game up with their most recent lenses. Build quality is awesome, image quality is nearly indistinguishable from my Leica lenses, and they know how to make things small and useable.

@KelseySmithPhotography 3 жыл бұрын

I love waking up to a new Benj video! :-)

@axelkeuchel5728 3 жыл бұрын

Over the last few years Voigtlander leveled up its range of M mount lenses significantly. When I started out using Leica cameras a few years back, Voigtlander lenses had this image of “Well, not really bad but definitely not on par with Leica glas.” As far as I can see with their latest lenses they are on par or at least very very close - for very reasonable prices and with a great build quality. Although I almost exclusively shoot Leica lenses (all bought used) I really like this bold statement from Voigtlander. And although this is highly unlikely, I would like to see them reviving their “Bessa” line of analog cameras now turned into digital mirrorless rangefinders to challenge Leica😎🤘.

@dansomerville 3 жыл бұрын

For sure. There are some reviews for this lens in Fred Miranda forums in Sony and Alternative sections showing that this might be one of the sharpest 28’s ever made. Crazy for the size and price.

@TheVFXbyArt 3 жыл бұрын

+1 for digital Bessa!

@filibertkraxner305 3 жыл бұрын

Great no-nonsense review. I really like the results from my 35/1.7 Ultron and have been wondering which 28 to get when I need something wider. Thanks for clearing that up :-)

@tt__shin 3 жыл бұрын

I've always wanted to try skipping from 35 down to 28. but the 7artisans was a bit heavier than I'd like (and very long) this might be the perfect option

@KeithHodgkinson 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, cool lens and seemingly great performer.

@zenjitsuman 3 жыл бұрын

The type II has a smaller filter size so the lens could be made not to block the rangefinder window. So many M lenses are now used on Leica SL; Sl2; CL; SL2-s digital mirrorless bodies which have fine detailed EVF. Many photographers like close 0,5 meter focus for portraits with more OOF Bokeh, so Voigtlander has made it possible to attain close focus without using a helicoid M to L adapter.

@calumstewart3009 3 жыл бұрын

great vid ben. This helped me a lot. thanks!!!

@FrankWestPR 2 жыл бұрын

Just received the type I version of this lens and I love it, obviously I went for the lightweight version. Something to add is that with the 0.5m close focus it is very easy to make selfies with a M 😀

@MB-or8js 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review, very interesting! Would be nice if this new CV lens had a hard stop at 0.7 meters like the new Leica 35 mm APO lens with shorter MFD does. I will keep my CV 28/2.0 version I though because I like its more vintage feel and look. When you said that the black version of the version II lens has black paint, does it mean the paint comes off easily? I had this issue with a couple of my CV M--mount lenses in the past and didn't like it.

@philgelb7726 Жыл бұрын

Just picked this lens up and sold my 35 Ultron II. Surprising how much nicer the build and IQ is given the price being the same. Love it

@konmorse 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ben! What type of tape are you using to cover the leica logo? I also have a silver chrome body and I've been wanting to do the same thing, but struggled to find something that matches the silver.

@safatopia 3 жыл бұрын

Great review as always Benj

@goorackerelite 3 жыл бұрын

Looks awesome!! I love having a lower min distance focus. Being able to fully use it with live view is awesome.

@fellowcitizen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Sounds like you should get hold of the ~2006 Zeiss Ikon, its rangefinder focusses to 0.5m. It's similar to the M Bessas, I think, so perhaps they do to.

@ZachBie 3 жыл бұрын

Voigtlander is killing it with these new releases. I almost wish I didn’t have a solid Zeiss ZM kit so I could justify trying this out.

@CianMcsweeney Жыл бұрын

The Zeiss lenses are also amazing, and funnily enough are actually manufactured by voigtlander/cosina on behalf of Zeiss(using Zeiss designs ofc)

@ZachBie Жыл бұрын

@@CianMcsweeney I agree, and with all of my most used focal lengths covered, I have a kit that is consistent in use and look from lens to lens. It also helps me resists all the new lenses that are coming out from Voigtlander. But this is one I might have to just eventually try and see how I like it.

@RadBadTad 2 жыл бұрын

The lens looks great on the Leica! How do you feel that it would perform on a Fuji like the X-E4? I'm looking for a manual focus experience on something that I can beat up a little more than I would want to do to a Leica. Trying to decide between something "normal" like a 28, or something wider.

@Endr29 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Very offtopic: Do you have plans to review the 35mm 1.4 NOKTON with the Fuji X mount?

@CryoftheProphet 3 жыл бұрын

I love your channel man

@goorackerelite 2 жыл бұрын

do you find that the micro contrast is better on the Leica Copy? the Voigtlander just seems a little flatter in my usage

@mattwright9596 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! I hope you get a chance to borrow the Nokton 35 f1.4 for Fuji x mount when it comes out!

@funbichons5215 2 жыл бұрын

Great video review! I was wondering if you can review the Voigtlander 21mm f3.5 v2. Thanks!

@daryljohnson9010 3 жыл бұрын

I itch to try this lens adapted to an X pro3 as Portland lends itself very well to the 40-43mm focal length. A new, relatively compact manual focus 28mm would work very well for my demands. I’d choose the zebra offering.

@wernerzentler8441 Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking of adapting it to my Fuji X-T4. What do you think about?

@Edwin_Lam 3 жыл бұрын

Would you get this lens over Q2?

@asheko 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the interesting review ! I would also like to see your review of the Voigtlander 50 mm 1.5 II. Maybe you are interested in this lens ?

@gian-andreahuonder1772 2 жыл бұрын

Where can I get a lens hood for the voigtlander 28mm ultron II? I can‘t find any…

@Garypiano392 2 жыл бұрын

How does this lens compare to the Zeiss biogon 28/2.8?

@dlyon9673 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this interesting video! Any thoughts as to how the Zeiss 28mm f2 Biogon stacks up against this new Voitglander and the Summicron?

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

I’m hoping to test one soon. It’s a 2.8 though

@FFVoyager 3 жыл бұрын

Love it and it's on my list.... But am really interested to see if 7Artisans are going to make a 28mm f2 (or f2.8) option in the same way they have with the 35mm with the f1.4 and f2. I have the7 Artisans 28mm f1.4 and 35mm f2 (and a Voigtlander Nocton Classic 40mm f1.4) at the moment and the weight of the 28mm is more of an issue than i expected. The images from it are astonishing for the money it cost.

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Although I don’t know anything about the future of their lenses, I’d be really surprised if they put out an f/2 version.

@FFVoyager 3 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch do you think the market for 'affordable' light weight 28mm lenses is limited? But that Voigtlander is going to be a hard one to beat, that's for sure! It's £700 in the UK, which is enough but not overly expensive.

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, 35mm is just soooo much more popular.

@Renzsu 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch They're about to release a 28mm f/5.6 classic looking lens. Not really my cup of tea, and thought to be about $300. For that price I'd probably go for a Color-Skopar f/2.5, which is tiny.

@tjunglec 2 жыл бұрын

Heaps of lenses go closer than .7, voigt 25m Zeiss 28 bio etc etc etc. Get used to it, it's dope! With wides I just have a sense of 50cm and get my face off the viewfinder, helps with parallax too. Thank for your thoughts, lovely production 📸

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

haha yeah, just a preference from muscle memory

@pictureboston Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy for videos. Thank you. Have you gotten around to testing the Zeiss 28mm Biogon w/ this new Ultron 11? Obviously different apertures, but any thoughts? Thanks

@benjhaisch Жыл бұрын

I've tested them both but not together. For my money, I liked the Ultron better, but it's all preference.

@kitreyes0925 2 жыл бұрын

Has anyone tried this with an SL2 or SL2-S? Any vignetting or purple fringing?

@jajaisklar 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Ben, I'd love to see your review of the Voigtländer 40 or 50mm 1.2 (as they are quite similar). I think they're also a crazy good bang for the buck and be worth a mention. Keep up your great work. Greets from Berlin, Germany

@christopherfascenelli2454 3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a review on the new Voigtlander 35mm f/1.2 Nokton for Fuji when its out?

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

I put in a request!

@sebvz89 Жыл бұрын

hi! this one or the zeiss 28?

@jasonblake5576 3 жыл бұрын

Here’s a q for you, I’ve been using a 35mm Cron lens now for 4 yrs. Do you think I’m going to get a very different user experience with a 28mm? I’ve been tossing and turning over this for a while now. Great video and thanks for your work!! 🙏

@danielmalter3373 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a question of artistic choice, primarily. 50 is clandestine, other side of a narrow street. 35 is best everything lens, documentary, people typically know you are there, but you are on the side not in the action. With 28 and below you are and have to be in the action to get a good shot. All other questions such as user experience pale in comparison in my opinion.

@nunosantos8784 3 жыл бұрын

You didn´t talk about the corners in this video nor in the other comparison, as you normally do. Having the Leica 28 summicron, I was wondering how it compares to the Voigtlander in that regard, as for me is one of the main points when I choose a lens, as in the center almost all the lenses performs good to great. ...and hey, I´m still a normal person that needs to save to buy these kind of lenses.

@al404 3 жыл бұрын

While looking on rendition of this lens on Sony A7* camera I found out it has severe issue in corner and mid frame because of "thick filter stack" and that can be solved with a "kolari ultra thin sensor stack modification" but it really push my limit to understand why I can't just use an adapter and use it on my Sony 😅 I think it would be interesting to have somebody like to explain this kind of issue in adapting M lens on other brand camera. And I would also like to know is any other FF manufacture has a camera that better suit for Leica M lens.

@Renzsu 2 жыл бұрын

This is indeed a problem with Sony cameras and wider angle M lenses. Afaik this is less of an issue with the other brands (and the Leica SL of course).

@duncaninvest 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@jacobwhite9006 Жыл бұрын

Would be great to know how it performs in real life conditions vs the Leica and in more complicated lighting conditions

@johnb8538 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video I have the version 1 28mm What are the main differences between the two? I use mine for both film - V Bessa R2m and M10 p Thanks

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Sharpness is much better, bokeh seems a little more swirly, size is a little smaller. If you love your current lens though, no need to upgrade unless you aren’t satisfied with those aspects.

@darioscovacricchi2862 3 жыл бұрын

It looks like that the lens' hood attachment is different, similar to the nokton series. A great improvement, as my version 1 hood is stuck.

@johnb8538 3 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch thanks...appreciate the reply!

@johnb8538 3 жыл бұрын

@@darioscovacricchi2862 funny story regarding my hood- I put it in my Hoya filter case- when I was switching filters- and TOTALLY forgot where I put it- and I was going nuts looking for it - for like months....... drove me crazy 'cuz I honestly thinking- did I get it? yes..... where did I lose it.... and then- VOILA..... I was going through a couple of my filter cases - and "hey- this is the only place I never checked to see if the hood is in here!".. and there it was- I agree with you- it is pretty cheap... thanks again for your reply- cheers

@darioscovacricchi2862 3 жыл бұрын

@@johnb8538 I don't get why they decided to put a filter-like screw to attach the hood :/ Mine it is stuck, but every once in a while it decides to take a break and detaches :) Another thing about voigtlander hoods: they are very expensive, and they can cost you a significant fraction of the lens' price (see 35mm nokton and its hood). Cheers!

@sdhute 10 ай бұрын

Is that silver voigtlander 28 f/2 paint also you mentioned the black version was.

@benjhaisch 10 ай бұрын

I don’t believe so

@rotorfpv4117 Жыл бұрын

What about this lens on Fuji GFX?

@XboxTheBeatboxer Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video about your experience shooting with glasses, especially wide angle? It seems that you don't use a Visoflex and you're essentially doing reportage photography, which is the most intense, twitch-photography one can do with a Leica. Most videos/discussions overlook this glasses and wide-angle lenses part of the rangefinder experience. How do you cope? Is it worth it? Why? Etc.

@RogerHyam 3 жыл бұрын

What about the lens hood? Version 1 appeals to me just now because the lens is protected by being recessed. I'd want a hood on Version 2 if I was dangling it off my shoulder.

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

There is a hood available, but the demo unit I was sent didn’t come with one.

@kitreyes0925 2 жыл бұрын

@@benjhaisch what’s the hood? I can’t seem to find one for it online

@simongentry 4 ай бұрын

B - did you try this on the SL2/s by any chance?

@benjhaisch 4 ай бұрын

Ah I didn’t, sorry!

@emadgaidi 3 ай бұрын

This or the elmarit 28?

@CollectiveMindz 2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone else complaining about the close focus on some of these lenses. I don't mind that they do but a detente like you said would be a world of difference. After trying one I won't even buy a lens that focuses below 0.70 now.

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

haha just a preference but for the muscle memory, I'm not a fan

@jklphoto 3 жыл бұрын

You mention the silver bayonet. Realizing no one under 50 utilizes lens shades, but for us old farts, does it come with a hood? Also, have you ever shot the Zeiss ZM lenses? My 50 Planar is awesome!

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t come with a hood. And yeah, I owned the 50/1.5 Sonnar for years

@tamilhoward9708 Жыл бұрын

The old Ultron did suck. Glad they reinvented this wheel and its much better.

@joechan4447 Жыл бұрын

would this suit a M9 ?

@benjhaisch Жыл бұрын

Yes

@ductritran8637 Жыл бұрын

Zeiss zm biogon 28mm 2.8 is another killer lens .

@_parkphoto 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty convincing argument for a 28. 🐎

@Henchproductions 3 жыл бұрын

I received mine this week. It's the widest I can go with my Anamorphic setup. It's an amazing lens.

@dhaug 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure I picked up whether the focusing tab is metal or plastic. Thoughts?

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Metal… I think? I’m not sure, but it felt solid.

@marc6652 2 жыл бұрын

5:47 How could I compare something ??

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Watch the video I’m referring to ;)

@lsamoa Жыл бұрын

I had a Voigtlänger lens a while back and it had horrific chromatic abberation. Couldn't even fix it in post. Hands down, top 3 worst lens I ever owned. It wasn't even a copy issue as lots of people had the same problem. Nice to see them step up their game. This one looks really neat!

@IanDocherty335 2 жыл бұрын

"Definitely probably?" I did enjoy the review though. :-)

@benjhaisch 2 жыл бұрын

Haha!

@Antnie 3 жыл бұрын

🔴

@aramdavid 3 жыл бұрын

"definitely probably"? Maybe....

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Possibly

@zacharyvong 3 жыл бұрын

📷📷📷

@wafa1253 3 жыл бұрын

👊🏾

@cameranerdsmedia 3 жыл бұрын

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@reygaibor7116 3 жыл бұрын

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@thedondeluxe6941 3 жыл бұрын

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@olympus2OM 3 жыл бұрын

A New 28mm King??? Really?

@benjhaisch 3 жыл бұрын

Why it’s a ? and not a .

@AR-vf7vg 2 жыл бұрын

totally useless wasted time of blabla

@kevinxherrmann 3 жыл бұрын

That silver ring drives me crazy at the voigtländer lenses, especially on the black version... I have to say that the build quality is really good on these lenses and it's a good choice for people who can or will not pay the price of leica glass. And i don't know how the customer service are from voigtländer but leica do everything to CLA and repair what's possible to give the owner a lifetime experience with the handmade equipment they built. And a note on 28mm on leica m (.72): I also wear glasses and if i think that the corners are too empty i make one/a half step towards the person/scenery and that will do the trick for the frame line issue people like me have.