Will those be available on KZfaq later? Won't be able to make it on these days...

Love the Googly Third eye.

Cool!

It is the number one cause of clan infighting. Factions have been formed around the most common was to say the name. These factions wage never ending and extremely savage war against each other. The only thing that unites them is that all Tzimitsce hate how the Camarilla pronounces their name worst of all. This is the true reason they killed there Founder and Formed the Sabbat, everything else is a distant secondary consuren.

ZIM-ME-SEE...There you go...

Ts-ih-meesh

Clan bane is being called count chocula by other clans. Besides fiends, sadistic, etc

@@andresuzart2766 We had to call a break in a game one time because one of the new players told one of the more "intense" players to "calm the fuck down, Count Chocula". Been nearly 17 years and that shit STILL cracks me up.

A player in my group (who is still fairly new to WoD in general) is playing Ravnos. He set up a system of having rented Storage Lockers all around the city, all on the outskirts to meet the distance requirement. It was quite brilliant.

Took me ages.

@@StrangeAdventures Really shows lol.

@@StrangeAdventures Oh btw I really love you as Shaun in Stitch of Fate. Can't wait to see more!

That googly eye had me rolling XD

That's clearly Tremere! 😁

officially it is Tze-meez-she

If someone says the name of the clan and I have no idea what it is then it is Tzimisce.

Hoarders: Kindred Edition

Yeah they really have a lot of potential now. You can be a public defender that drinks from your poor clients, a resturanter that puts their clients on the menu, a doctor that uses their flesh shaping to heal others and collects blood from them as payment. It’s quite nice to see and you can tell the people that wrote the companion had a bit more vision than the ones that made V5 base

😂​@@lemonnomel9416

Yeah I’m not too hot on mixing disciplines and I think that is unfortunately going to be Modiphus’ fingerprints left on V5 going forward. That being said, there is a massive uptick in quality of the writers clearly trying to flesh things out more while leaving things still open to add or take away at the player’s leisure and I think that’s a great sign

Camarilla Tzimisce are those who disguised as a Toreador but with unearthly beauty instead of heavy make up. They'll kill you if you so much as suspicious about them tho. There are so many ways to play them.

That would be a completely acceptable pronunciation for a German. In American English, which isn't English English, most likely "Zi-MIT-ze" or at the least, the community of players I moved amongst were pretty consistent. I don't think this host got it wrong either, for real English, but I'm sure there's room for more than one pronunciation too. But I hear that a ton of folks who add phonemes that aren't there, and sometimes while extra syllables.

I don't think I've ever thanked someone for a roasting and I'm not gonna start now

You're welcome 😅

You can't say clan Tzimisce unless you have flesh crafted yourself twelve mouths

OOOOOH DUH! I was like "Why are they shoving coal into train engines?"

@@StrangeAdventures hahahahaha 😂

Hope you enjoyed it!

Yeah I think the disciplines have become oversimplified and way to mashed together. It feels like theres just a handful of common disciplines and the unique clan powers are just off shoots.

there is more than seven. they changed that in v20. and made it a sabbat sect of 7. while other salubri exists.

Good job it was free!

As written anyone can take the powers. Of course your group can decide otherwise. We have the rule that you have to be taught the power from someone in clan.

@@shadearca Thank you for your answer! I also thought it was working like that!

Tzimisce bane makes perfect sense for them. They are very "earthy" and "carnal" vampires. All about the physical and tangible.

Exactly, because Zapathasura obviously pulled off going into torpor somehow so theres gotta be some kinda loopholes to it.

@@toddweese4060 Duh, apparently this new curse only came about because he died by sunlight. So it didn't even exist before that happened. I was just wondering in general if those banes are suspended in torpor.

ditto! but I'm hoping to play very soon - I may just need to storytell myself because my friends haven't played either :(

Thank you so much 😀

*Does a little more Reading* I retract my question. . .

Yeah I don't understand why they feel the need to mash all the disciplines together. There's so few unique powers at this point that I could probably count them on both of my hands.

Shack up with 6 different lovers and keep your own space for when you need alone time. Harem mini-game bloodline!

I think By Night Studios released an update of their larp rules earlier this year. It's not V5 but still new stuff :)

Same. Ravnos was my first character in VTM. So fucking fun. The clan weakness of having a vice was perfect. I chose Avarice. I roleplay that weakness often, on top of my GM putting me in positions where I have to contend with it. It has gotten me in alot of damn trouble. It has also gotten me into some great scenarios. Chimerstry is strong as heck, for sure. But, not unbeatable (at the lower levels anyway, heh-heh). But, a clever GM (which I have, the bastard) should be able to handle and keep the pressure up. If anything, it has made my GM RAISE the difficulty on me. Not in terms of enemies' power and such, but in terms of enemies' Intelligence, their awareness and such. And it is a unique power; in these modern nights, I haven't come across any other Ravnos (I'm in Manhattan). I'm guessing, that the developers have done this, because they have heard horror stories of players being douchebags with the power, abusing the rules and restrictions, being meta minded, and giving (weak-willed) GMs a hard time. Of course, there are people out there like that. It's up to GMs to establish boundaries and expectations. I'm ranting. I was very excited to hear about Ravnos getting love. Glad they got attention; it establishes them as a still viable clan. I just, hate the hate that they have gotten, and hopefully the new powers haven't been nerfed badly. Also, I am a conspiracy theorist in game, and I contend with the idea that Zappathasura's death was a grand illusion, a top tier execution of Chimerstry at its highest form. Probably not, but I like to think so. Also also actually actually; If Zappathasura is actually gone, then when the Antideluvians awake and consume their descendants, Ravnos will remain. Ravnos will make sure that Kindred carry on, even after the rest of you pompous clans are Antideluvian poop.

I addressed the most interesting parts of the errata to me.

Shhhhhh you'll blow my cover! NO TREMERE HERE JUST A FRIENDLY LOCAL SALUBRI

Worse than fish malks

All three of those are wrong. It's Tzimisce actually.

They all but say explicitly they're not player characters but instead plot devices.

@@VexLament and that’s one of the problems, so now if you want to play a salubri, you’re strictly stuck playing a Fury of the sabbath. It just seems like a major fail in my eyes, why even bring the clan back if the purpose wasn’t for players to utilize them as characters. V5 did more the Nagaraja and all the other clans of the dead, and these clans were in the same boat of being nearly extinct. Don’t want to sound petty but it’s a major waste.

The only thing that truely matters is how you want to play them, they're designed in a specific way with lore in mind but that's all secondary. The lore and rules in the book are there to give ideas. I don't think the Salubri have really been given all that difficult of a situation that people won't play them or they wont fit into other sects etc.

@@StrangeAdventures I get you as a storyteller and player can choose to not include these sets of rules in your games. But it’s still a waste. No castes, no unique holy abilities, were now force to help anyone with a problem, when before it was strictly helping of the weak and innocent(and only for the Warriors mind you) Again I hate to sound angry, it’s just disappointing to see that no effort was even attempted while other bloodlines were given complete makeovers and made useful