I've been after a controller EXACTLY like this for a long time. This sounds right up my alley. More companies need to start revamping stick and button technology

I feel like drift is mostly caused by manufacturing variances/issues. I barely play my Switch and when I do it's docked so I use a Pro Controller. Yet my joycon still got drift. Considering how much we beat up our N64 controllers in Smash and Mario Party yet they're still working literally 20 years later, I don't think it's the user.

Heyo, I got your case study right here: I get controller drift like crazy, however I actually treat every single controller with tender care. I even did an experiment one time with a PS4 controller where I would only ever use it wearing gloves, and would put it back in the box immediately after using it. After a few months of semi-regular usage sessions, it still succumbed to drift. What confuses me is that I've seen people downright abuse their controllers and they'll insist they've never gotten drift. Yet I'm here keeping them sterile like hospital equipment and they still die on me after a few months. At this point, I just put a warranty on every single controller I buy. It saves me money in the long run.

Hey Bob, really appreciate your testing a lot. You've done a great job!! Just want to say something here so viewers know more.:) You can set the analog trigger for two levels of its response, one level of travel sensing for games like racing and another level of quick action with little pressing. Also its vibration has different levels for setting to fit your preference. If you check its circularity, it has only 0.6% average error compared to 7% or even 10% around of all other controllers. Again our big thanks to you. We are very open to know different thoughts from players and committed to doing better.

Damn, I was expecting the price to be in the $130-150 range, $70 (official pro controller price) for these features is pretty freakin reasonable.

1:50 That Bomberman 64 OST right there, perfect for those camera angles

I was talking with some people about Steam deck drift and they barged into the conversation and promoted this controller, I said we weren't talking nintendo and they said the stick could be installed for steam deck, if they make their own joystick daughter boards for steam deck that'd be sick! Oh wait Bob just mentioned that last part I'm too slow noooo.

I reviewed this controller late last year and I'm really loving this controller so far. That joystick is just amazing - very high quality and comfortable to use with good stick height too.

I’ve never had drift with any of my joycons, even my original model that I got on launch day, but I still clicked on this just because I love your videos 👍

This definitely sounds like a great deal. I'll probably wait until they release a V3 that improves on this with better vibration and more button options. Unless you release some future video going over how to mod it

Eren Jaeger to Zeke when asked what he’ll say to Mikasa 12:53

The Bomberman 64 song used was, once again, exquisite. Thank you for showing some love for a classic.

What's causing drift? Short answer: Smash Bros

Yeah, ever since my controllers have been getting drift, my go-to controllers have actually been cheap knockoffs, and so far they haven't failed me yet! 😅

I always love the roman ads and how disappointed with yourself you look when you do them

Bob they went with this design because it's easier to do. Like you said it's basically doing the same thing as a membrane. That means it's not going to complete the circuit before it bottoms out, which most mechanical switches do, but there may be other benefits to that design. It might last longer than rubber membranes for example. I don't know what it is but I've worn out the A on a number of recent rubber membrane controllers. They aren't make the rubber membranes as thick as they did back in the day.

I would absolutely love to put the sticks and switches in both of my 8bitdo pro2's. I guess I could try buying this controller and then swapping the sticks, and maybe the buttons. Having Gyro, aligned thin sticks, back buttons, mechanical buttons, and buttons on the back would allow me to have the perfect controller!

Another banger video as always. Loving the content!

I usually skip the in-video ad skits, but I watched this one. Had a good laugh at the Monster Hunter comparisons haha.

Another good thing about this controller is that you can interchange/swap out the switch button layout for the PC/Xbox button layout with a combination of button presses which is a neat feature. I wish some controller manufactures can take some Ideas from the company GameSir with their G4 Pro controller they have magnetic A,X,B,Y face buttons that you can change the layout physically for Switch/Other Nintendo based consoles such as the Wii-U or leave it as the default PC/Xbox layout which is a neat feature. Just like you can swap out the ThumbSticks and DPad on the Xbox-one Elite Controller due to them being magnetic.

If I could get like an 8bitdo Pro 2 with clicky buttons, it would be my ideal controller. I tried to do it myself but every switch was just barely too big and I didn't wanna risk ruining the controller by scraping the traces and wiring the buttons to the pads

The gyro would be very useful for me in PC and the overall high quality build sounds nice. Macro is cool too. It seems like this controller would be great for PC users who like to mess around with the Steam controller settings. Making complete overhauls of a control layout. However I just can't get rid of that sweet sweet PS5 controller. I don't even own a PS5 but I bought a controller specifically to use on PC. Pretty much no other controller has a touchpad on it which can be used in a lot of different ways for PC. Headphone jack, usb-c, fancy triggers that can be modded for use in PC games, and some fancy lights to match my Razer gear and it's kinda hard to beat the PS5 on PC. I don't think I'll be picking it up but I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this company to see what they do next. Which the Steam Controller out of production, the PC controller scene is desperate for someone to take it's place.

Looks like an awesome controller, love the vids man! Keep up the slick quality!

Wasn't noted in the video but it's pretty obvious when opening the controller : the triggers too are hall sensing they're actually just a chip on the board with a magnet included in the trigger and a spring

Hall sensors have been around a long time. To say that they won’t ever drift might be accurate. However hall sensors can fail completely so maybe over time at one point they will just stop working. Time will tell.

"Motion assist on FPS on PC, is that something we really need?" Yes. Yes it is. 👁👁 Watch Nerrel's video on how motion aiming is a necessary step forward in the evolution of game controls. He's eloquently put what I've been saying since the Steam Controller for almost a decade now.

Shit, Nintendo has this problem that's so big that I learned about controller drift from Nintendo.

My old ps2 controllers which at this point might have gone through a few thousand hours of use still work like a charm after all these years, I wish they would make quality controllers like that again

I wish they could have added back paddles as well. I've become accustomed to those, they are very useful for FPS games and Soulslikes. I'm hoping the next Xbox Elite controller will have these hall sensor sticks. Although from what I've heard that could be impossible with the way it has its stick pieces attached magnetically and the way the triggers already use hall sensors that it might cause interferences.

"What are you doing to your controllers to make them drift so quickly?" *Playing fighting games competitively.*

Love the creative ad skits as always 😂

The use of Bomberman 64 music threw me right back home as a child. Oh, yeah, good review. :)

But how does the d-pad feel? Is it click-y? Did it avoid the Pro Controller's adjacent direction input problem? Feel like any comparable official controller's d-pad?

This controller looks almost exactly like what I've been looking for on PC. The only thing it really needs is A) 2 back paddles that are separate buttons PC so they can be used for more advanced functionality with Steam Control functionality. B) A switch to disable the analog trigger like on the Elite controller.

I admittedly don't play my switch too much, but I haven't ever experienced the drift either. I like the idea of magnet sensors for the sticks. Seems neat.

Thank you for making that ad so awkward that I don't want to skip it due to my own sick curiosity.

kind of wish you talked about the D-Pad a little, good video though.

Thanks again Bob. Please don't mind that we tell something more here for gamers. This new controller also has Turbo, buttons swap, all customized settings by only mainly two or a few of buttons' combination on controller directly for stick sensitivity, vibration, Turbo, reset, quick stick calibration, Switch motion sensitivity, PC motion aim assist sensitivity, Autopilot gaming, and support multi-platform including Switch/Switch Lite, PC, Android, iOS,Mac,Steam, and its system upgradeable for bug fix, better performance or new functions.Thanks for all you gamer guys, especially Bob again!!

Nice to finally see this. It was available since Des '21 in some Asia country. I know you kinda review it for Switch, but would nice if you mentioned the PC app so you can configure your controller with it.

I got the original model of GuliKit King Kong Pro controller and they're such kind professional people who answered back to my comments via the KZfaq section. I'll continue to buy GuliKit products in the near future

Out of curiosity, since it uses electromagnets to function, would holding up a strong magnet near the sticks affect it?

I have the exact King Kong Pro 2 controller, and it has been heavily used when playing FPS games on my Switch; Doom 2016 & Doom Eternal. The two thumbsticks with the ZL & ZR trigger buttons are smooth, no drift, and has strong rumble (dare I say even better than HD Rumble). The overall feel of the controller reminds me of using an Xbox Elite Controller.

Same or similar tech is used on sensors for engines, pretty neat. Can’t wait to see what’s clicky next!

I've heard that the drift can actually happen from not using your controller frequently enough, dust build up essentially. I had a joycon that I owned for several years but maybe only put a couple hundred hours of use into and it started drifting so bad I had to replace it entirely.

The controller knows you are pressing a direction, it knows it because it knows where you are not pressing. By subtracting where you are pressing from where you are pressing, or from subtracting where you are not pressing from where you are pressing, whichever is greater. It obtains a difference, or deviation. The controller subsystem generates command using these deviations.

I've done some testing myself. I got my switch and within six months I had drift. I keep my electronics super clean and when the joy on began to drift it looked brand new. Then my cousin, who plays most games with me online, also had drift around the same time that I experienced mine. Then I got new joycons as did he and we play a lot of games in which you have to press down the left stick to run. So going forward we mapped the run button to a trigger or face button. NO MORE DRIFT! I think the combination of pressing down on the stick and a direction causes the joycons to wear much faster than normal. So I think the reason some people never get drift is the face they only play certain games, EG Wulff here. I've also done a survey of those who have had drift and I ask what types of games they play most and those that have drift usually play third person or FPS. Does anyone fit into this methodology?

Great video Bob! Question: Have you ever heard of the R key on a joy con becoming unresponsive (for example the spring losing strength)? I mean, it works for a relaxing game, but if i spam it while playing a more intensive game, the button lags and doesn't release. Ps. The joy con is only 1 month old and it certainly didn't feel like this when i got it. Plus, the clicking sound of the L and R keys are totally different, with the L feeling more springy and clicky.

I love that Bob's sponsor for a joystick drift video is also all about treating joystick issues.

I bought this controller for my Switch OLED, and I gotta say that it is hands down the BEST Switch controller, currently on the market. Better than the Official Nintendo Switch AND 8bitdo controllers. It is worth the price, trust me.

Hmmm... I am seriously considering replacing my PowerA wireless enhanced controller with this. I really miss vibration when I use that controller.

Thanks! I hadn’t seen this video until I purchased a Nintendo Pro Controller just a few hours ago, thanks for alleviating some fears surrounding drift. It’s something I hear about online, but I don’t know how wide spread an issue it actually is. There may be some _bias_ surrounding the take on the phenomenon. Also, thanks for saving me $100! I would have purchased the Power A Elite! Edit: I got Smash Brothers as well. I’m just now getting a Switch OLED which is my first Switch. I’m really more excited about the Pro Controller though! I enjoy your videos, your classy style and your hair! Great Stuff! As always!

I’ve never ever had drift in my 8 joy con controllers, but I’m still considering this controller thanks to the clicky buttons, macro, and solid design.

Quick shout out to Christina Applegate!

The fact that there exist hardcore switch users that have never experienced drift is mindblowing to me. I have 5 joycons and a pro controller. 3 of the joycons have drift BIG TIME and my pro controller has a slight drift that comes and goes

Sega Saturn using Hall sensors: Sega Dreamcast using Hall sensors: Finally...

I had a ps4 controller that had drift in the right stick out of the box which was weird, so I've just swapped out the stick assembly. Works pretty good now!

Fun fact: this magnet sensing tech is more or less the same principle that makes phono cartridges on turntables work.

Wow, I was so patiently waiting for this video man. I'd love to ask you a question: I've bought three of them, which I've all had to return because the ABXY buttons were getting stuck (or well, one of the buttons at least). Always one button ruining the whole package which is fantastic. Are the face buttons great and not sticky for you? Thanks! 🙏 PS: re-watched the video and heard you said the buttons are "very good". I'm honestly shocked as all 3 ones I had were getting stuck not even after 2 days of use, so no way it was just a random defect. Pretty confusing and sad.

Another great video Bob. I love your content. Thanks for the hard work

Great video man!

For switch I've tested the Pro controller, PDP, Power A enhanced wireless, Power A Fusion Pro, Power A Nano wireless, 8bitDo pro 2, and none of them have felt perfect for me. I ended up keeping the Power A enhanced wireless and adding thumb grip caps to the sticks to make it more comfortable. I liked the 8bitDo sticks more but didn't like it's triggers or the distance between the trigger and shoulder button. I loved my Xbox 360 controllers and the Stadia controller ended up being really comfortable for me. Should I try this one out as a comparison to all those other controllers? Bob, have you tested this controller for long play sessions yet? How much does the trigger travel compared to the 8bitDo pro 2?

drift never even was an issue outside of being extremely rare, until nintendo decided to use the cheapest parts possible

The lighting effects with that light bar makes your shots look great.

Wulff Den videos feel like a fresh hot espresso and a blueberry muffin on a Sunday morning.

The Dreamcast controller was a train wreck (despite how cool VMUs were), but the joy sticks on them did feel great.

The only reason I'd be interested in this is if d-pad was any good. The d-pad on the Pro controller really sucks. And you didn't talk about a d-pad at all. Does the d-pad use mechanical switches?

I appreciate when you review products like this.

You done did it Bob. I'm more excited for your ads in the video than the actual content. 🤣

While it would be nice to see them commit to fully mechanical buttons, I suppose a benefit of their approach is that you don't get as much wobble with the buttons as you would on, say, an Xbox controller. You then don't have to worry about the contact pads on the PCB being poorly designed like they are on, say, an Xbox controller, since the button will always press pretty much straight down. So it's kind of best of both worlds, the durability of membrane contacts but the feel and reliability of a mechanical switch.

this changed my life, more than time i met the pope

Wulff Den has some of the funniest sponsorship segments!

I'm sold. I LOVE the Hal Thumbstick on the Dreamcast and have been waiting on something like this.

Wow more anti-drift narratives from Bob Wulff. SOME OF US LIKE DRIFT MAN.

not first

what bob doesn't understand, that is so awesome about those sticks. Is that you can dial out the deadzone completely, making sensitive movements, ie., headshots, extremely easy.

All my pdp controllers have drift, only 3 months old. I purchased this controller and it’s nice that I can connect to my iPhone and HP Omen gaming computer.

Imma just throw it out there, has anyone ever seen WULFF DEN and penguinz0 in the same room together?

I like that the TV in the background is playing the The Lion King game from the Disney classic games collection.

I remember the days where you could smash you xbox 360 controller on the wall or on your desk and it would work fine for another 5 years. Now I take care of my controllers and try to clean them often yet they start failing after 6 months...

Try playing DbD with it, 2 xbox controllers including 1 elite controller(both original xbox/microsoft product) got insane drift on left thumbstick within 1 week of eachother(100+ hours of gaming) and the normal xbox controller was brand new aswell.

My launch day joy-cons still function great. No drift. The pro controller I bought the same day though, not so much. It gets drifted fairly often. I "fix" it by opening the thing up and using a can of air on it. Then it's good for a couple weeks if I'm lucky. The controller you reviewed here, seems nice. Personally, I prefer quiet buttons, but that joystick might be worth the noise. But I'm also a big fan of the drift in the Nintendo brand pro controller. This controller has great sticks, but the loud buttons and lower quality rumble make it a nope for me.

I ended up getting this controller and am quite pleased. Doesn't feel as solid as the xbox controller, I had a few minor issues, but overall, pretty great - My left stick seemed to have some resistance white contacting the ring at the 1 o clock position, but poking it seemed to click it into position and the issue went away - I switched playing on pc and switch, and at some point I must've clicked the calibration buttons because I wasn't able to fully turn and mario kart anymore. The issue went away later after hitting the calibration again - I wish the plastic shell was more of an xbox clone (yes, even more) so we could use some of the same mods/accessories - After the the xbox series controller, it's jarring to use any other dpad - Metallic shoulder buttons and triggers would be better all black - The "clicky" buttons don't stand out particularly for me, to close to a regular controller button to consider it a buying point - The only larger issue is that the stick seem to be pretty heavily biased towards the the x and y axis, making nuanced diagonals harder. I don't know if this is the result of yet another option I activated unintentionally All these are all negative points are pretty minor or just aesthetic or were fixed with little effort and the controller is an excellent option if you like to keep using the same one in many systems or as a second controller that no one would would complain about using. The texture of the shell feels great and while I wouldn't recommend it over the 8bitdo Pro 2 for everyone, if you like the multi-system connection and prefer the xbox layout, I's say go for it.

I had a friend who was going to get a different controller until I linked him this video and then we both bought a white one. Now he's linking me your videos haha

Just purchased one. Appreciate you bro bro !

I just ordered one of these after my XBox One for PC controller started making Session practically unplayable due to right stick drift. It still works for most of my games, but this seems like the right long-term investment since I've worn out a wired and now wireless XBox controller's joysticks on my PC.

Thank you for the bomberman 64 music. Gosh that takes me back.

This might be the best 3rd party Switch Pro Controller, or at least tied with like the 8bitdo Pro 2. Full gyro, rumble, no drift, good buttons, insane turbo settings, waking the console from sleep, heck this is the ONLY 3rd party Switch controller I've heard of that actually has NFC. The only things I can think of instantly that are missing are extra back buttons and even then some people just don't like having back buttons because they accidentally press them or can't reach them. All that and even PC support via USB, that's a really stinking good package. I've avoided buying an official Switch Pro Controller as long as possible because of the price, and I've been getting kind of close to buying an official one recently, but now I really have to rethink that with the 8bitdo Pro 2 being a great budget option and now this being pretty much a standard Switch Pro Controller for the same price with even more features than the official one.

I bought this controller and it arrived a few days ago. it has been great so far and it is my preferred controller over my pro controller. it works great on my pc and the analog zr and zl buttons do work properly on pc.

That Bomberman 64 ost at the beginning caught me totally off guard, great music election.

As a fan of gyro aiming, the selling point for me on this is I don’t need additional software to emulate right stick with gyro when there is no support for it. For instance if I wanted to play cyberpunk in GeForce now on my phone. Now I get gyro aiming there too!

For the record, I've had my switch for almost 2 years, I've mostly played handheld, and no drift so far

My original 2017 Switch joy-cons have BIG drift issues and yet my younger siblings still use them, lol! My Oled Switch controllers have yet to see a problem with them because I heard Nintendo fixed that issue with the Oled controllers.

It's great that a company is willing to put hall effect sensors in their controller. Since, over time they'd probably sell less controllers because they aren't breaking on people. If they had a version or mod kit that put at least two back buttons like the 8bitdo Pro 2. And a hair trigger mod, hell it doesn't even have to be as good as that mouse click like new Scuf. As long as it lasted a year they'd have a serious contender on their hands. Even if it was as expensive as the Xbox elite, or Razer controllers knowing ur sticks are gonna last out of the box is crazy huge value. I just got the 8bitdo Pro2 and love it. I'd get the pro version of this controller for sure though. But, I'm glad it exists and hope that people enjoy it and the company sticks around making better controllers. Hopefully, it gets more companies to use the technology they are putting forward.

I'm excited to see you mod this controller

Bob really lays into this Bomberman 64 music and I have to say, it is really the greatest.

don't know if it's an issue in us and europe but in the chinese market there's been quite some complaints about quality control, where some's started drifting immediately. also, the paint on the shoulder buttons and triggers are said to wear off in time

I can get this in Australia from an online store called Gamory. Including shipping, it actually ends up slightly cheaper than the official Switch Pro controller

probably the best controller i have ever found, plus gulikit offers more products like an interchangable face buttons. btw the trigger and shoulder buttons' paint is starting to wear out, i got this for 5 months of heavy usage.

For me to adopt it I need more customization options to be available. I love my switch pro controllers and all the shell’s and joysticks and button options I’ve gone through…

As always I'm mostly here for the adverts... Quality as always!